Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

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CalyxSmokr

CalyxSmokr

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Davinci_vaporizer said:
The next batch of spacers are scheduled to be here in about a month! However, we have about a dozen sets left. If you're interested in purchasing a set immediately you can contact customer service and order over the phone and we can send some out! 1-800-336-7224
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thanks for the response. CS said they are out but expect more in about 10 days.
 
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Joel W.

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Just trying an ascent for the first time today. So far I am really liking it. I took a 1/4" glass nail and broke it into a few small chunks to add to the bottom of the bowl, as a spacer until more come in.
 
FluffMolotov

FluffMolotov

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Hi guys! A buddy has lost his charger and I would like to put together one for him. Can someone with an Ascent be so kind as to tell me the volt and amp rating of their charger? Bonus for me if you can measure the (inner/outer) diameters of the actual barrel connector...
 
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FluffMolotov said:
Hi guys! A buddy has lost his charger and I would like to put together one for him. Can someone with an Ascent be so kind as to tell me the volt and amp rating of their charger? Bonus for me if you can measure the (inner/outer) diameters of the actual barrel connector...
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9VDC at 3 Amps, but IIRC one Amp is enough to cover worst case charging. It's an uncommon small connector, the same basic one used by FM in some of their vapes in fact, but LONGER THAN NORMAL. That is the connector from FM isn't long enough for reliable connection. I had to make one for my experiments:
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The same charger and plug that works on Ascent will also charge the larger FMs but not the other way around.

It's 3.4mm OD but has to be at least 12.6mm long. Some 'too short' coax plugs can be 'cut back' by careful trimming, but some cannot. Here's an example of this from a similar project with the Air:
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There you can see how the connector in the center got a 'doughnut' cut off it with a utility knife (at the bottom to substitute for the factory one at the top. I gave up trying to find one that could be extended this way so I settled for buying the part sans cable and molded strain relief and made my own.

Not at all an easy task, really. Good luck with it.

OF
 
FluffMolotov

FluffMolotov

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That is the best reply an obsessive tinkerer could ask for. I have made a few cables in the past and that strategy of elongated barrel length seems to be the token method to fend off folks who try to mix and match cables. Good thing I have a Flowermate as a benchmark, thanks so much!

I really like that lil charge-buddy, might have to make an all in one solution for camping. Got a link to the parts list perhaps?
 
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OF

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FluffMolotov said:
I really like that lil charge-buddy, might have to make an all in one solution for camping. Got a link to the parts list perhaps?
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No parts list, really. The only two important parts are the Arduino Mini Pro (although other models and other micro controllers will do fine) and the FET used as a switch. Low internal resistance and Gate sensitivity in the 5 Volt range of the processor are keys, I'm using IRF 530 but again, many in the series would work.

The rest is sockets, switches, fixed resistors, a beeper, connectors and so on. Nothing special.

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mack7one

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Hello everyone ,great thread just got my ascent a week ago .I have tried various techniques with screens and the oil jar with not much success of vapor or feeling the effects.I have been using a pinnacle pro for a while now with good results .i love the look and feel of the ascent .can someone add some tips ,I pack the bowl tight with the oil jar and draw very slow .
 
priestsmiler

priestsmiler

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I use aprox 0.3g usually of average grind then tamp down with a convex metal screen. Start temp quite low for taste (around 345F). Increasing temp gradually having around 10-12 pulls on each temp. Long slow sips if not using a water tool. It does take more getting used to than the pinnacle I found. Hope that helps @mack7one . :)
 
WakeAndVape

WakeAndVape

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mack7one said:
Hello everyone ,great thread just got my ascent a week ago .I have tried various techniques with screens and the oil jar with not much success of vapor or feeling the effects.I have been using a pinnacle pro for a while now with good results .i love the look and feel of the ascent .can someone add some tips ,I pack the bowl tight with the oil jar and draw very slow .
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Glass flowers in the bowl work great...better than anything else I've tried

And you can put as many in the bowl that you'd like (or will fit) without having to pack down everything.

The small downside is that the glass prices can be hot for a few seconds after freshly dumped for a warm oven...so you want to make sure they cool off before you handle them with your hands or have a tray or dish to dump them on.
 
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OF

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mack7one said:
I have tried various techniques with screens and the oil jar with not much success of vapor or feeling the effects.

I pack the bowl tight with the oil jar and draw very slow .
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You need to understand, or at least deal with, how the Ascent works. It builds up heat between hits, and can drop a LOT (like 100F) in a hard hit. To improve your yield:
  • Cure and grind well, keep it dry, ground and well packed
  • Give it time to recover between hits, try a minute or more
  • Use glass flowers or the factory spacers to produce more vapor per hit
I suggest you do a search on 'flowers' and 'spacer' and see the many ways folks are using those 3 basic ideas to maximize production. Some guys have used glass beads, buttons and such with some success, be careful some have reported coated beads not up to the job. Ideally you want lots of surface area on the glass to transfer heat during the hit, making the flowers near ideal. You might dump the jars, they don't seem to work all that well and many guys have jammed them in big time with hot (and dirty) bowls and cold jars........ Likewise screens, glass is the key, not metal, and in contact with the herb. Remember only the walls, not the bottom, heat.

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Ricardo

Ricardo

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OF said:
Remember only the walls, not the bottom, heat.
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I didn't know that! The bottom part of the ceramic chamber with the little holes doesn't heat? Oooops! So, would putting herb in the little oil cannister, open side up without the silicone cover, with the little wire meshes on top help? Or would that impede the air flow from the bottom, and does that matter? Must get me some flowers.
EDIT: Well, that worked pretty well! I felt I was getting much smoother hits and I like to think the glass cannister spread the heat more evenly. Definitely a good experience, could have gone a bit longer, maybe upped the temperature to finish off but I liked it and will try it again next time.
 
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sickmanfraud

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OF said:
You need to understand, or at least deal with, how the Ascent works. It builds up heat between hits, and can drop a LOT (like 100F) in a hard hit. To improve your yield:
  • Cure and grind well, keep it dry, ground and well packed
  • Give it time to recover between hits, try a minute or more
  • Use glass flowers or the factory spacers to produce more vapor per hit
I suggest you do a search on 'flowers' and 'spacer' and see the many ways folks are using those 3 basic ideas to maximize production. Some guys have used glass beads, buttons and such with some success, be careful some have reported coated beads not up to the job. Ideally you want lots of surface area on the glass to transfer heat during the hit, making the flowers near ideal. You might dump the jars, they don't seem to work all that well and many guys have jammed them in big time with hot (and dirty) bowls and cold jars........ Likewise screens, glass is the key, not metal, and in contact with the herb. Remember only the walls, not the bottom, heat.

OF
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I did not know that there is no heat from the bottom, but now that you mention it, it makes sense.

Knowing that the bottom does not get hot, I need to ask @OF if a spacer on the bottom would conduct, transfer, or retain heat better than the stock bottom?

I only tried putting a spacer at the bottom once, and it broke, so I have nothing to compare it to. If it would help and others have been successful I could try again?
 
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OF

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sickmanfraud said:
Knowing that the bottom does not get hot, I need to ask @OF if a spacer on the bottom would conduct, transfer, or retain heat better than the stock bottom?

I only tried putting a spacer at the bottom once, and it broke, so I have nothing to compare it to.
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Yes, I think most of us find a spacer in the bottom to be an advantage, most 'cup down' (?) but both have their fans/advantages. It can be a useful reservoir of heat. And load size reduction. I can see how breaking a spacer could make a guy a bit shy about trying again, but IMO it's worth another try.

I think if you're willing to put up with the fussy part of loading them, the flowers give better results.....or at least generally can. Experiment around, fruitful ground. Follow the results you like.

OF
 
MrNaturalAZ

MrNaturalAZ

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Modicum said:
Has anyone found success in using small buds with the Ascent or is a fine grind the only way to go?
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From my experience, at least some grinding is necessary. I find a consistent medium to medium-fine grind works well. It needn't be very fine (like one might use in a MFLB) and, in fact, a too-fine grind will result in more debris getting in your mouth or falling out the bottom, as well as possibly interfering with airflow.

That said, grinding to at least medium is necessary. I've found that finger-crumbling isn't even enough, so I'm pretty sure just cramming in a small bud (or chunk of a larger bud) would result in a disappointing experience. Do yourself a favor and pick up a cheap $5 grinder - it's really all you need for the Ascent, but I consider it a necessary, rather than optional, accessory.
 
Ricardo

Ricardo

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Yup, medium-sized grind. I'm getting good results with small loads in the oil cannister without the silicone cover, just the wire mesh on top. Still haven't tried glass flowers though - most people say they're very effective for heat distribution.
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
You can also use the glass flowers on top of your cannabis or even a thin layer of cotton to keep the load down. Ive used a screen on top that's a good idea. I usually will use the screen wedged up above the oven in the upper chamber. The glass spacers from DaVinci work well for me.

I like using the GonG or a WonG for a mouthpiece.
 
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