Remembering your dreams: Combustion vs Vaporization

Does anyone else have a much easier time with dream recall when vaping over smoking? In my childhood I would almost always remember my dreams nightly and even started lucid dreaming quite often. Then in my teen years I started smoking heavily, and thus, lost the ability to remember most of my dreams, making lucid dreaming almost impossible. Now, 20 years later, and 3 months into strictly vaping, my dream recall has much improved to the point I'm now remembering some part of my dream almost nightly, and the ability to become lucid is also returning. Anyone out there with similar experiences?

Sevenaito said:

Does anyone else have a much easier time with dream recall when vaping over smoking? In my childhood I would almost always remember my dreams nightly and even started lucid dreaming quite often. Then in my teen years I started smoking heavily, and thus, lost the ability to remember most of my dreams, making lucid dreaming almost impossible. Now, 20 years later, and 3 months into strictly vaping, my dream recall has much improved to the point I'm now remembering some part of my dream almost nightly, and the ability to become lucid is also returning. Anyone out there with similar experiences?

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yes I do, try eating a banana before bed.

also you should only be drinking pure water.

and no, pure water is not polland spring of fiji. Pure water is distilled Water.

the distilled water will clean out your pineal gland and allow you to produce more melatonin.

which brings me to melatonin, something you should take before bed.

I recommend this brand

http://www.drugstore.com/products/p...08479&CAWELAID=120142990000016427&CAGPSPN=pla

Bedroom closet situation. Lucid dreaming always occurs 3-4 weeks before harvest.

Sevenaito said:

in my childhood I would almost always remember my dreams nightly and even started lucid dreaming quite often. Then in my teen years I started smoking heavily, and thus, lost the ability to remember most of my dreams

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Same here but switching to vapor didn't change anything. BTW I'm glad it didn't because when I remember my dreams it always is some weird or creepy stuff.

switching from vape or smoke does not alter whether i remember or have dreams, however there is a tea that has worked for me :
My experiences using dream herb (Calea Zacatechichi) with vapor

pressure said:

yes I do, try eating a banana before bed.

also you should only be drinking pure water.

and no, pure water is not polland spring of fiji. Pure water is distilled Water.

the distilled water will clean out your pineal gland and allow you to produce more melatonin.

which brings me to melatonin, something you should take before bed.

I recommend this brand

http://www.drugstore.com/products/p...08479&CAWELAID=120142990000016427&CAGPSPN=pla

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I don't understand what you mean about cleaning out your pineal gland with distilled water. Any water you ingest is absorbed into your bloodstream and then crosses the blood:brain barrier. Distilled water is extremely unlikely to have any different effect than tap or mineral water at this point, unless I'm misunderstanding you. A quick search for any scientific articles only yielded this, about fluouride accumulation in the pineal gland: http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html

This is a neat thread, I vape precisely to forget my dreams, if I go to sleep sober I often have visceral nightmares or anxiety dreams. Vaping culls that for the most part. I've never had a lucid dream despite studying and trying methods to help elicit that in sleep, it has always remained out of my reach

The Beagle said:

Same here but switching to vapor didn't change anything. BTW I'm glad it didn't because when I remember my dreams it always is some weird or creepy stuff.

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zor said:

This is a neat thread, I vape precisely to forget my dreams, if I go to sleep sober I often have visceral nightmares or anxiety dreams. Vaping culls that for the most part. I've never had a lucid dream despite studying and trying methods to help elicit that in sleep, it has always remained out of my reach

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I too intentionally consume cannabis directly before bed not only to get to sleep, but so I don't remember my Wild fuct Up dreams.

I'm an anxious person already, and holy shit, some crazy shit occurs in my dreams, I would prefer to have no recollection of these disturbing images.

Even missing the lucid dreams, just not worth it.

I think I've bottled up too much of my thoughts, and they wander around in dreamland.

If I want a "interactive altered perspective" I reach for the Blotter paper or Fungi

Writing down your dreams right as you wake up can help you remember them over time but my dreams/nightmares are not something I want to remember anymore.

I always try to hit the vape hard right before bed for a heavy nights sleep, otherwise I am awake every hour or so with freaky dreams.

zor said:

I don't understand what you mean about cleaning out your pineal gland with distilled water. Any water you ingest is absorbed into your bloodstream and then crosses the blood:brain barrier. Distilled water is extremely unlikely to have any different effect than tap or mineral water at this point, unless I'm misunderstanding you. A quick search for any scientific articles only yielded this, about fluouride accumulation in the pineal gland: http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html

This is a neat thread, I vape precisely to forget my dreams, if I go to sleep sober I often have visceral nightmares or anxiety dreams. Vaping culls that for the most part. I've never had a lucid dream despite studying and trying methods to help elicit that in sleep, it has always remained out of my reach

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pure what (a.k.a distilled water) has some very interesting properties that make it very, very different on your body then regular Poland spring, tap water, or even fiji water.

funny water distillation is like vaping. The only reliable way to remove chemicals in our water supply is through distillation. Distillation is a very straightforward concept: You boil off the water, and all the undesirable “extras” are left behind. One added benefit to having a distiller is that if your tap water supply is lost for any reason, you can safely distill water from a river, lake, pond, or swimming pool.


water makes up 92% of your body, so water is very important.

now what can distilled water do that regular water cant. Since distilled water is so pure, it starts to leech and pull chemicals in anything that its in. Distilled water has a quality, acting almost like a magnet. It picks up rejected, discarded, and unusable minerals and, assisted by the blood and lymph, carries them to the lungs and kidneys for elimination from the body.

H20 is only distilled water. because it contains 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen atom. Once you add ANYTHING to distilled water it loses its properties and its not H20 anymore!

some would say there is a conspiracy to keep people away from PURE water. I agree. The benefits of drinking PURE water are great. You will have healthy cells that can fight cancer

I would even go to say that most people, in their whole lives, have NEVER drank pure water.... and, by never drinking pure water, never got the benifits of it.. Our bodies make like 9 million new cells and hour or something like that, since your body is 92% water, putting PURE water in your body, is very very important. and what happens when you add just 1 more atom of oxygen to h20? You get h202 A.K.A hydrogen peroxide, which is Anti-viral, Antibacterial & Anti-fungal

back to the OPS question about dreaming, drinking distilled water will clean our your pineal gland along with the rest of your body. You should want to be producing as much melatonin as you can, once you stop producing melatonin, cancer takes over your cells...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354573/

Melatonin is a highly pleiotropic signaling molecule, which is released as a hormone of the pineal gland predominantly during night. Melatonin secretion decreases during aging. Reduced melatonin levels are also observed in various diseases, such as types of dementia, some mood disorders, severe pain, cancer, and diabetes type 2.

Hey @pressure, I'm not quite in agreement with some of the things you mention, this is a bit offtopic so we might need to take it to an appropriate thread. While distilled H2O can indeed leach other ions or compounds across a membrane, that's not quite what is happening inside our bodies/blood when you ingest it. I also would urge a little caution when drinking straight distilled water as that may induce some osmotic shock if consumed in great enough quantities; a similar risk applies to drinking tap or any other kind of water in large volume anyway. Similarly, you should not drink hydrogen peroxide/dioxide as you can easily burn your throat/stomach.

The pure water you're ingesting still is subject to absorption through the small intestine, and by the time it gets to that point in your gut it has been diluted with enzymes, remnants of other foodstuff, acid, etc. This isn't distilled water that enters your blood stream. While I completely agree that we should drink considerably amounts of water daily, for good health and mood, I don't see any rationale for how distilled water can directly affect your pineal gland.

zor said:

Hey @pressure, I'm not quite in agreement with some of the things you mention, this is a bit offtopic so we might need to take it to an appropriate thread. While distilled H2O can indeed leach other ions or compounds across a membrane, that's not quite what is happening inside our bodies/blood when you ingest it. I also would urge a little caution when drinking straight distilled water as that may induce some osmotic shock if consumed in great enough quantities; a similar risk applies to drinking tap or any other kind of water in large volume anyway. Similarly, you should not drink hydrogen peroxide/dioxide as you can easily burn your throat/stomach.

The pure water you're ingesting still is subject to absorption through the small intestine, and by the time it gets to that point in your gut it has been diluted with enzymes, remnants of other foodstuff, acid, etc. This isn't distilled water that enters your blood stream. While I completely agree that we should drink considerably amounts of water daily, for good health and mood, I don't see any rationale for how distilled water can directly affect your pineal gland.

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of course there is tons of disinformation on the internet. Some people even claim that distilled water is so PURE it will "start leeching minerals from your body"

this is like saying the world is flat and you will fall of the side if you sail too far..... here is a fear mongering article saying that drinking pure water will kill you. but you see what they say at the bottom.... keep in mind that 1 banana as more minerals then 5000 cups of fiji water

so they have to add some truth into their barbaric lies.
but the truth is distilled water is way way different then regular tap water, spring water or figi water

i drank distilled water all last summer.what happened next was amazing.

im 36 male. grey hairs along my face disappeared. I woke up with tons of energy, I burned all the fat off my body. I felt 15 years YOUNGER. My acid refulx was gone, and over all just felt more clear headed... and I never said you should drinking h202 I was just stating that you can only make it with PURE water since PURE water has the right amount of atoms in it

http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm

Fasting using distilled water can be dangerous because of the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers their nutrient value.
Distilled water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more distilled water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes.
According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, "Distilled water, being essentially mineral-free, is very aggressive, in that it tends to dissolve substances with which it is in contact. Notably, carbon dioxide from the air is rapidly absorbed, making the water acidic and even more aggressive. Many metals are dissolved by distilled water."
The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water. Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine.
The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.


Distilled water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of distilled water is a bad idea.

When I mention to people that I prefer to not remember my dreams I usually get booed because "dreams are beautiful". I'm happy to know that I am not alone! BTW I never have proper nightmares, just really weird things that make me question about my own sanity.

I'll have to side with those who wish not to remember their dreams. I very very rarely have good dreams anymore. Most are crazy or downright frightening. Waking up scared out of your mind sucks. Vaping helps me forget them.

Yeah, I'm in a same way @The Beagle (had a beagle growing up too, such a wonderful breed!), although I either have violent nightmares or shit that just makes no sense and, yeah, makes me question my own sanity

zor said:

I don't understand what you mean about cleaning out your pineal gland with distilled water. Any water you ingest is absorbed into your bloodstream and then crosses the blood:brain barrier. Distilled water is extremely unlikely to have any different effect than tap or mineral water at this point, unless I'm misunderstanding you. A quick search for any scientific articles only yielded this, about fluouride accumulation in the pineal gland: http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html

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I suppose distilled water has no fluoride in it, so it might allow the body to make progress clearing out the deposits left there by our fluoridated tap water...?

I'm not sure how seriously to take the calcified pineal theory (and associated ideas about the third eye), but I would love to be able to dream again. That's pretty much the only thing that makes me want to take breaks or otherwise regulate my cannabis consumption.

I had hoped vaping no later than a couple hours before bedtime would help, but it didn't seem to make much difference (although I didn't really stick with that rule for very long either)... I may have to give Calea zacatechichi and/or holy basil a try!

friedrich said:

I would love to be able to dream again

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my guess would be that the issue isn't whether you're dreaming so much as whether you're remembering the dreams. I've been recording/interpreting dreams for 40+ years, so it's a topic I've given a lot of thought to.

if you truly want to improve dream recall, in my experience the key issue is being consistent about wanting to remember. for example, if you remember a tiny bit of a dream, but nothing more, write it down. if you can, sit quietly, try to remember more ('re-dreaming'). the more you do this, the more you'll remember next time. eventually you'll remember whole dreams, even multiple dreams in a night. (the next step is interpreting them...)

a rather extreme method some people use is to have an alarm clock go off every 2 hours or so; the odds are good you'll wake yourself out of a dream.

you can buy one of those little digital voice recorders and put it by your bed so you can record dreams without having to turn on a light, write stuff down, or try to remember what you dreamed in the morning.

my experience is that cannabis does suppress dream recall, whether it's vaping or combustion.

I am in the same boat...almost always zero or minimal dreams.

However in the last couple years I take melatonin once in a while and WHOA major vivid, crazy, wild, did I say crazy? dreams.

steama said:

Ah, lucid, lucid dreaming and then something happens, she's gone, and there is pancake batter all over hell.

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XD

This thread is extremely interesting!

I had absolutely to clue this many people used cbis to sleep well in the sense of forgetting/skipping dreams.. Very interesting.

My dreams seem to fluctuate and I have only recently started vaping but I would say that my dreams feel clearer and more straightforward as opposed to jumping from one situation to a new one.

Thanks for the input everyone, some interesting stuff. I also can't believe so many of you prefer not to remember your dreams, I truly love dreaming and especially lucid dreaming. There's nothing like it and once you get good at it, it is truly amazing. Those of you who prefer not to remember your dreams I challenge you to put in the effort to become lucid. Once you can lucid dream, from my experience, nightmares become a thing of the past. I'm not gonna lie though, for some people it is very difficult and can even take years before you get that first lucid dream, but once you do, your life will be changed, I can promise you that.

Sevenaito said:

Thanks for the input everyone, some interesting stuff. I also can't believe so many of you prefer not to remember your dreams, I truly love dreaming and especially lucid dreaming. There's nothing like it and once you get good at it, it is truly amazing. Those of you who prefer not to remember your dreams I challenge you to put in the effort to become lucid. Once you can lucid dream, from my experience, nightmares become a thing of the past. I'm not gonna lie though, for some people it is very difficult and can even take years before you get that first lucid dream, but once you do, your life will be changed, I can promise you that.

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I personally believe dreaming can help you with your current situation. I also believe that you can learn forgotten lore in dreams.

But as they say, with great power comes great responsibility. Not everyone is willing to go for that extra bit of knowledge/wonder. Heck a lot of people busy up their entire lives just to avoid the "dreadful idea" of being alone, because when you're alone you start to think and apparently thinking instills fear. Don't get me wrong, I have scared myself to hell but it brought me back to a higher place. Thinking is power, you must be responsible not to overdo it.

I vape before sleeping pretty much every night, and I remember at least some of almost all of my dreams. I enjoy dreaming very much, and would be kind of upset if cannabis got rid of them for me. I'm also a firm believer in the importance of dreams with our mental health and problem solving in our waking lives. I know that musically, I can play certain things with more ease after sleeping on it, than I could the day before, even though I'm not consciously thinking about playing them. It feels like it almost soaks into my muscle memory. It's weird, but very cool and interesting.

Your all part of my dream........don't make me wake up.

pressure said:

now what can distilled water do that regular water cant. Since distilled water is so pure, it starts to leech and pull chemicals in anything that its in. Distilled water has a quality, acting almost like a magnet. It picks up rejected, discarded, and unusable minerals and, assisted by the blood and lymph, carries them to the lungs and kidneys for elimination from the body.

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Personally, I wouldn't depend on distilled to target only the bad stuff, as far as leaching. Even if didn't eliminate any chemicals or metals from your body, it also doesn't provide essential trace minerals that are essential to good health. Even if it doesn't remove essential trace elements, it doesn't add any. I'm not saying that even bottled water labeled as 'Spring water' has the trace elements you need, but trace minerals are available, at least to some extent, from water that hasn't been 'purified' or distilled by a municipality or bottling company. We have well water, and although I do put it through a filter that uses carbon and filters particulates, it also has trace minerals that I value. There are supplement products that specifically provide trace elements, in either liquid or capsule form, and many people have improved their health just by adding trace elements/minerals to their diets.

If you only drink distilled water and eat processed food that often has essential nutrients processed out of it, IMO you're compromising your health. If distilled water is your drinking preference, you're going to have to add trace minerals to your diet, for good health, in even a larger quantity, from one or more sources. There are other methods for removing harmful chemicals and heavy metals from the body. One of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet is Chlorella, which is also known for being able to remove heavy metals. It also has so much chlorophyll in it that, over time, just a half teaspoon per day is enough to deodorize your body from the inside out. I haven't had to use a deodorant in about 15 years thanks to this edible green algae.

http://www.innerself.com/content/li...e-heavy-metals-toxic-chemicals-from-body.html

"As early as 1964, two mineral researchers wrote; "Even small departures from the normal mineral composition of the milieu interior [the interior of the cell may have profound physiological consequences...."
http://www.personalhealthfacts.com/minerals2.html

As for remembering dreams, smoking vs. vaping, it's been so long (like 10+ years) since I was a smoker, it's hard for me to judge. I do think it makes a difference how much or how late you vape. At least that's my experience.

Now that you mention it. I think my dream recall has improved. Only problem is most my dreams are fricken nightmaresssss

max said:

Personally, I wouldn't depend on distilled to target only the bad stuff, as far as leaching. Even if didn't eliminate any chemicals or metals from your body, it also doesn't provide essential trace minerals that are essential to good health. Even if it doesn't remove essential trace elements, it doesn't add any. I'm not saying that even bottled water labeled as 'Spring water' has the trace elements you need, but trace minerals are available, at least to some extent, from water that hasn't been 'purified' or distilled by a municipality or bottling company. We have well water, and although I do put it through a filter that uses carbon and filters particulates, it also has trace minerals that I value. There are supplement products that specifically provide trace elements, in either liquid or capsule form, and many people have improved their health just by adding trace elements/minerals to their diets.

If you only drink distilled water and eat processed food that often has essential nutrients processed out of it, IMO you're compromising your health. If distilled water is your drinking preference, you're going to have to add trace minerals to your diet, for good health, in even a larger quantity, from one or more sources. There are other methods for removing harmful chemicals and heavy metals from the body. One of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet is Chlorella, which is also known for being able to remove heavy metals. It also has so much chlorophyll in it that, over time, just a half teaspoon per day is enough to deodorize your body from the inside out. I haven't had to use a deodorant in about 15 years thanks to this edible green algae.

http://www.innerself.com/content/li...e-heavy-metals-toxic-chemicals-from-body.html

"As early as 1964, two mineral researchers wrote; "Even small departures from the normal mineral composition of the milieu interior [the interior of the cell may have profound physiological consequences...."
http://www.personalhealthfacts.com/minerals2.html

As for remembering dreams, smoking vs. vaping, it's been so long (like 10+ years) since I was a smoker, it's hard for me to judge. I do think it makes a difference how much or how late you vape. At least that's my experience.

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one question that always gets people is. does water conduct electricity?

now, most people would say yes, water does conduct electricity, but thats not true.

PURE WATER DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY

Only dirty filthy water does.

as for trace minerals, you get more minerals from eating 1 banana then drinking 1000 bottles of water.

it is even said, that distilled water will kill any kind of cancer. you just have to fast and drink pure water. since cancer needs glucose to survive once your body goes into a state of ketosis, the cancer cells will eat themselves to death.