Adding Terpenes Back Into Oil?

Monsoon

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Just found out about ThePotion which is a natural cannabis terpene extract used for making e-juice but I'm thinking could be used for dipping-n-dabbing too. Price is only CAD$20 for a 1g vial, I'm really tempted to order some to try.

Edit: someone else confirmed it's good for dipping so I'm going order some to try soon. If you order it, make sure to get "the original" since the others use PG-based artificial flavourings. It's supposed to be based on G13 x GorillaGlue4, though it's not really clear if they sourced it from the plant itself or just matched the terpene profile. I'm thinking the latter but Ill probably write to them soon to check.
 
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Just found out about ThePotion which is a natural cannabis terpene extract used for making e-juice but I'm thinking could be used for dipping-n-dabbing too. Price is only CAD$20 for a 1g vial, I'm really tempted to order some to try.

Edit: someone else confirmed it's good for dipping so I'm going order some to try soon. If you order it, make sure to get "the original" since the others use PG-based artificial flavourings. It's supposed to be based on G13 x GorillaGlue4, though it's not really clear if they sourced it from the plant itself or just matched the terpene profile. I'm thinking the latter but Ill probably write to them soon to check.

This site offers the same thing, but it's cheaper. I'm going to get 25 grams for $125

http://www.mrextractor.com/

https://www.mrextractor.com/terpenes/

https://www.mrextractor.com/solution/

https://www.mrextractor.com/solution/dilutant-solutions/
 
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I have ThePotion which I bought for the intended purpose. The dude told me it is Cannabis derived, but pretty sure on the Solution's page they claim it is not. So not really sure who to believe. It works alright for the intended purpose but the taste is not great so I am skeptical that dipping dabs would be worthwhile.

Edit: just tried a couple dips. Has a better taste than in the mix, but kind of overpowers the flavor of the dab. Maybe that's how dipping terps always is, I have no comparison. Also not really sure there's any effect besides flavor so I doubt I will do it again.

Saw @thewestcoastcollectiv on instagram who are a bubble hash/bho company in BC have some crazy super precise pipette for adding terps to bubble hash which looks pretty dope.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBgaVWqRrVRhaoAtGGII7Vm8jTEz2ZWEpLx_ao0/?taken-by=thewestcoastcollectiv
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBl4JxjRrfJz0ukoWbYVL857iMaPlFFWIYerPM0/?taken-by=thewestcoastcollectiv
 
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I just placed my order for ThePotion, just waiting on the Paypal invoice. I'm getting one each of the original G'Rilla13 mix, the Cheese and the Lemon Diesel, had to order through Instagram for the last two since they're pre-release. They confirmed that it's based on the terpene profile and not directly sourced from the plant itself, which makes sense given the cost and legality of it. I'd be curious to know if it's based on the actual percentages or just mixed to taste. I've had some cheese strains recently so I can at least compare it to that. Again I mainly plan to use it for terp dipping but I also got a $5 tank to try out with it too.
 

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Curious to see what your thoughts are. Using it in a tank is pretty good for dabbing on the go. Definitely recommend a 0.3 to 1 gram of concentrate ratio rather than the 0.5 to 1gram which is the other recommended ratio.
 
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My terps from The Potion finally arrived! I just tried a small dab dipped in the lemon diesel and it was nice, not too strong or overpowering, just more lingering in the background. The lemon terp really stands out, the other two it's a bit harder to pick out the added taste but it's definitely there. No real harshness that I can discern and I think it may actually be smoother with a dip first. I found a coughed a lot less even after a larger dab and it didn't irritate my throat and lungs so much.

Taste aside, I'm really interested to see the effect on modulating the high. Bubbleman mentioned that adding terps to a sesh with others led to people being less like a zombie at the end. I think I'm noticing a bit of an effect and it seems to be mellowing out the high after a dab. I'll have to do more testing to be sure :D:science:
 

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Personally I think we're witnessing a catastrophe in the making. Garbage stem and trim extraction can be flavored to taste like primo concentrate, claiming to be from whatever premium strain happens to sell at the moment.

"Tastes Amazing, Enhance or Mask your Existing Flavor, Your Choice"
 
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Personally I think we're witnessing a catastrophe in the making. Garbage stem and trim extraction can be flavored to taste like primo concentrate, claiming to be from whatever premium strain happens to sell at the moment.

"Tastes Amazing, Enhance or Mask your Existing Flavor, Your Choice"
If you make your own stuff there's no issue. People just need to be informed and try to buy from reputable sources, that's all. Lots of scammers and sub-par product out there right now and people are still buying it up even without added terps.
 
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Not everyone has the time or skills or whatever. For a light user buying grams from a dispensary is perfect. Being informed helps and that's exactly the issue. A lot to be said for the idealistic old style grower who honestly labels his product. We don't need more sources of deceit and confusion.
 
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seaofgreens

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So I was watching these guys:

They seem to be dipping their dabs into the terpene vial. So this is a no no?

They also talk about adding a drop to a liter of water with good effect.

Interesting.
 
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So I was watching these guys:

They seem to be dipping their dabs into the terpene vial. So this is a no no?

They also talk about adding a drop to a liter of water with good effect.

Interesting.
Check my posts further up the page, I bought terps specifically for terp dipping. Only other option is to add it to a slab and this way you can add them on demand.
 
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Here is my recent experience. I had a really light tasting Jack and since I'm not the one who makes it, I can't influence changes without a month or more delay, so what did I do? I ordered some jack herer blended terpenes online! They smell perfect! They are naturally derived, nothing but terpenes, no PG, PEG, Coco, bullshit! I got a syringe and the cart and dropped three tiny droplets from the syringe into the cart. BAM! Just like cooking! These bad dogs just got a whole lot tastier! The taste went through the roof! So good, that now all I want to do is suck on that thing! I am very impressed! Unless you are buying some crap, a good blend of naturally derived terpenes will kick up any extract! Heck, you could get some ok herb and buy these terpenes online in that strain, and put a few drops in the bag and that shit will make the herb POP! I want to put this stuff on everything. In my car as air freshener it smells so good!
 
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If you make your own stuff there's no issue. People just need to be informed and try to buy from reputable sources, that's all. Lots of scammers and sub-par product out there right now and people are still buying it up even without added terps.
Thc is thc, if your making extract, all you want to end up with is as much thc as possible. Terpenes are destroyed during all extractions. Adding them back (naturally occurring terpenes) after processing is the only way to get that fresh bid smell/taste. Why would you think your being ripped off if the stuff tastes epic and knocks your dick off? As long as they are honest about what they are using, choose to buy those who only have thc and natural terpenes in their product, that's natural. Some terpenes are mixed with crap and those are where you start tasting the difference. Pepsi challenge and thc and terps versus and other method, you'll always pick the thc and terps, i promise. Unless you like to smoke menthol cigarettes, and you currently purchase creme brûlée flavored vape pens. That's not our market. Strong, clean, and tasty.
 
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Not everyone has the time or skills or whatever. For a light user buying grams from a dispensary is perfect. Being informed helps and that's exactly the issue. A lot to be said for the idealistic old style grower who honestly labels his product. We don't need more sources of deceit and confusion.
Trim from any grow makes THC. People are wasting money using nug runs to produce extract. The difference in yield isn't enough to cover the huge cost difference. If someone buys a pound of final trim for $200 versus a pound of bud for $1600-3200, the actual yield isn't worth the increased cost you have to charge for your carts. If a batch of 10 pounds of trim yields 500 grams of sap, 10 pounds of nugs does not yield 10x as much. So $2000 for trim, versus 10,000-20,000 for nugs is a huge difference. There's no difference in amount of terpenes remaining after processing either, it all smells pretty bland once your done refining it to liquid gold. Even if I doubled my sap with nugs versus trim, that would still have been possible with 10 more pounds of trim, another $2000. That nug is still a long ways away from making sense. In the end, we can refine it to be 100% THC...nothing else. It would be thick and hard to vape, so you have to dilute it with something. This is where terpenes come in. They act like alcohol and they thin the product just enough. The more terpenes you add, the lower your THC goes (by volume).
 
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I just placed my order for ThePotion, just waiting on the Paypal invoice. I'm getting one each of the original G'Rilla13 mix, the Cheese and the Lemon Diesel, had to order through Instagram for the last two since they're pre-release. They confirmed that it's based on the terpene profile and not directly sourced from the plant itself, which makes sense given the cost and legality of it. I'd be curious to know if it's based on the actual percentages or just mixed to taste. I've had some cheese strains recently so I can at least compare it to that. Again I mainly plan to use it for terp dipping but I also got a $5 tank to try out with it too.
My experience is this: everything depends upon their recipe. That means they have to get a terpene profile somewhere. This is like a recipe. It's all the percentages of specific terpenes, based on WHATEVER sample they had. This is where differences in brands can be Very different than what you were expecting. I found three open source strain profiles for a jack herer. Each one had significant difference in percentages of the same terpenes. One disclaimer, I don't know the sample volume so this could account for some differences. But, when something like D-limonene is shown as hardly there, then double that, and then double again, between all three sources....you gotta wonder. So if you have purchased terpenes online and they didn't make a difference in smell and taste, maybe this is why. Look for naturally sourced before synthesized, even though they are the same thing essentially, I believe naturally sourced just taste stronger. There is one company starting to sell MJ derived, "full spectrum" terpenes. Thc free, but I'm not sure of the legality based on their source. Especially crossing borders via the mail. These are expensive, and they have one flavor so far. Og Kush.
 
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Aren't we smoking terpenes already when we smoke weed? So why would vaping with them be deadly? Some may irritate soft tissue...like limonene, but all these terpenes are essential oils, often used in diffusers and as aromatherapy. I doubt that the minute quantity at which you inhale per hit would ever kill anyone...maybe make your throat hurt...especially if you make them sting they are so strong.
 
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Yup, I pointed out in possibly the thread that Sativasam highlighted above that $100 per 10 drop vial no-doubt reflects the fact that terpenes are present in flowers in very, very low percentages compared to the major cannabinoids and even some of the minor cannabinoids in some varieties. It takes a buttload of EXTREMELY WELL GROWN herb to extract enough terps to sell as an terp only product (that is taken to full term, max terp production, ~50% or more amber resin heads - ain't no cutting down these flowers as soon as they appear!).

^all assumptions & we known what assumptions can do :), ~50% amber resin heads < based on what, your preferred harvest window? What if I want something different, harvest only clear/mildly cloudy? I will not get max terps, but if it gets me a profile that gives me more beneficial effects that *I* am after, fuck ~50% ;p.


Add terps into your oil only in ratios that are found in nature.

And where are the published lab tests to verify that ratio is the same as the source material those terps are produced from? I also wonder how THCa crystal isolates are produced. Where are the lab tests that routinely test for contaminants in anything we consume?

Food grade terps, are safe for consumption??? Really, based on what type of consumption? FDA has not approved any of these terps for inhalation, nor have there been any good scientific studies I know of that would indicate inhalation is safe for your health long-term. Eating food is not the same as vaping a banana, lol. Do you vape crushed 'pure, lab tested' oxycodone, as it is 'safe' to take orally? (rhetorical Q).

One benefit of the Blue River Extracts terps is that these as I understand it are a full terp profile solution extracted from genuine cannabis plants of the given strain. This means that the ratios of each terp to one another should conform to how they can occur in nature (ie: they have been tried and tested by us tokers for many years now!).

tried and tested by tokers? <useless, imho; as unless it is a known strain, phenotype, from a certain strain provider/producer, from harvest to end-product; there is no standardization of any cannabis product. Has to be a qualified lab tested result, accept no other substitute.

Understand that you will not necessarily keel over if you put too much terps into your dabs. Still, I won't give advice on this sort of thing unless I can be sure it is safe to follow (even then, the assertion of safety assumes that the blue river products are full terp profiles as isolated from a crude extract of herb - or directly from the herb some-crazy-how).

^assume = non-sequitur > "One in every five people is Chinese. There are five people in my family. There's me, my mom and my dad, my brother Colin, and my brother Ho- Cha-Chu. I think it's Colin.
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I do not like to assume, I prefer to know when it comes to medical use, for my health. I have read steam distillation is used for some of these terp extractions...and without lab testings to show that they are exactly the same full-spectrum, no way to know if they are identical to the *source* material used, or if they comply with a particular strain. Then as stp points out, a same named strain, could depending on the source/producer/grower, come out with a profile that more closely matches an entirely different strain! I believe the Werc Shop tested numerous strains, only to find on a analytical basis, some strains where incorrectly named, and appeared to have same 'profile' as another named strain...what is in a name?

And it goes back, way back: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=3827&page=2

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"We then used Gel electrophoresis -- one lane per reaction mixture and then separated the replication products, from which the sequence of the original single strand can be inferred.
Results:
of the 55 samples 23 were sucessfull...from the chromatagraphs
the following inferences were made:
2 samples from the Hawaiian sampling were mitachondrial duplicates... the 100% sativa from the island of Molokai called The Blood, and one of the 6 samples called Maui Wowie from the Island of Maui...what was interesting is that 2 samples from california... 1 called "maui wowie" from a source in Ontario and a second from Santa Cruz were also sisters and all related to a mother common as our two Hawaiian samples. The Santa Cruz sample was called "Cherry Bomb".
At some point in a review of the data by the co contributors...some two years after the original culturing took place the name "Mr.Greengenes" came up as the source of the Santa Cruz sample.
Keep in mind that certain chain of custody issues as well as timing and the very " jovial' nature of the sampling would render it useless by peer review, none the less... I guess I stand by the work..."
I had The Werc Shop test a Hi-Fi choc bar that the label states contains 200mg THC, test results came out IIRC (can post the results if you want) ~98mg THC, ~130mb THCa >>>truth in labeling, you going to trust a dispensary or MMJ producer that is not regulated by the FDA... uh, huh, not me. True I could have heated/melted the choc bar @High enough temp for 30min to decarb the remaining ~130mg THCa, but that is not the point...never mind the hassle (I was ultra stressed out, had to make a ultra high calorie meal replacement drink that included 1.5g of Real Scientific Oil 20% CBD paste of horrible taste, and 100mg-200mg THC in melted choc bar>>> just do not need additional complication when I have zero time to go on, as my father was dying from metastatic prostate cancer).

*medical* marijuana needs testing standards that all can rely on. FDA does not regulate aromatherapy products, since they are not considered to be medicine; and no peer review scientific publications I know of, prove the efficacy of aromatherapy, any more than homeopathy. Maybe you should all be reducing terps, as homeopathy theory would suggest microscopic amounts do the trick. And what about like CBD having an antagonist effect on THC, likewise we do not have the studies to show, whether or not, if you raise a certain terp to such a level, whether there is a threshold level where you get antagonistic effects, negating your beneficial cannabinoid effects.

Peer reviewed scientific published articles from 2015 by The Werc Shop, latest article on the contaminant problems with concentrates (note, smaller sample size, of limited number of producers...would have been better to have more of the 'name' brand concentrates tested...Werc Shop does not mention the strains of producers/processors): http://thewercshop.com/information/scientific-studies/

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I'm wondering if the Aunt Delores choc cupcake I vomited on, might have been spoiled/bacterial from poor storage(was in refrigerated unit, but that doesn't tell you how the product was stored in shipment to the dispensary, many 'reps' do not do shit for storage conditions)

http://www.cannainsider.com/jeff-raber/
^article above: "More specifically you’d want to look at certain pathogenic type things like Salmonella, Pseudomonas, Listeria, and E Coli so that you’re sure none of those gather there even in a very, very small amount because people could get extremely sick from that."

Not sure I agree with the next line of thinking:

"Matthew: Great point and how do I get those things back in there and do I even need to use the original terpenes that were part of that cannabis plant? Maybe I can create a designer terpene profile. Incorporate some plants that aren’t even cannabis that maybe we want the aroma from lemon or combined with a different terpene profile of a different plant entirely.

Jeff: I would say those things are certainly possible. From our perspective a molecule is a molecule so you mentioned lemon. One of the popular terpenes inside of citrus fruits is limamine. So if I captured limamine at very high purity from the orange industry, orange juice industry, that’s the same molecule as the limamine that cannabis produces. So a molecule is a molecule and if I have that limamine I understand the product purity of that type I could use that in the same fashion that the cannabis plant would to create my concentrate product."

"There may be no adverse effects from (PG) Peg or MCT at all we just don’t know so it’s kind of a hard one.

I don’t want to act like people should be scared of those we’re just not quite sure. I think what you are sure of is if you turn the battery power really high where you’ve got the voltages set high and using them for a while you can see those types of components start to break down and form other decomposition products that may be harmful like formaldehyde in a very trace amount. That is certainly a concern. I don’t think anybody wants to be inhaling that but you could also say even in an all natural cartridge if I do the same type of voltage am I turning the cannabinoids or other components into things that I don’t want either much like the combustion product."
@stp ^we do not know for sure, the safety of any of these situations when it comes to vaping/inhaling...reason I try to avoid using pre-filled carts much, the heating element gets too hot, there is not enough temp control even in the box mods, to satisfy my safety concerns.


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Matthew: So aside from an aromatic effect or a fragrance with these terpenes do you think there is a medicinal benefit as well from the terpenes? They have more than one thing that they do. There not just fragrant they also.

Jeff: Oh absolutely, absolutely. I mean we definitely have a big interest in terpenes and provide those types of compositions for infusion into other products and our goal in doing that was for the effects. It was not for the flavors or the taste or anything of that type. It’s so that you can standardize the effects. People can understand what types of products are best for them when it’s made in a reproducible and standardized fashion it’s consistent so that as a patient you can rely on that same type of effect time and time again."

^this, standardization...just like 'real' FDA regulated drugs, lol.

Source to end-user traceability. Some are trying to implement this, like Emerald Alchemy, etc. Kind of like with the wine industry now using various tamper resistant traceable closure/labeling security measures to combat fraud with an easily checked provenance, in famous named wine producer products.
 
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^all assumptions & we known what assumptions can do :), ~50% amber resin heads < based on what, your preferred harvest window? What if I want something different, harvest only clear/mildly cloudy? I will not get max terps, but if it gets me a profile that gives me more beneficial effects that *I* am after, fuck ~50% ;p.




And where are the published lab tests to verify that ratio is the same as the source material those terps are produced from? I also wonder how THCa crystal isolates are produced. Where are the lab tests that routinely test for contaminants in anything we consume?

Food grade terps, are safe for consumption??? Really, based on what type of consumption? FDA has not approved any of these terps for inhalation, nor have there been any good scientific studies I know of that would indicate inhalation is safe for your health long-term. Eating food is not the same as vaping a banana, lol. Do you vape crushed 'pure, lab tested' oxycodone, as it is 'safe' to take orally? (rhetorical Q).



tried and tested by tokers? <useless, imho; as unless it is a known strain, phenotype, from a certain strain provider/producer, from harvest to end-product; there is no standardization of any cannabis product. Has to be a qualified lab tested result, accept no other substitute.



^assume = non-sequitur > "One in every five people is Chinese. There are five people in my family. There's me, my mom and my dad, my brother Colin, and my brother Ho- Cha-Chu. I think it's Colin.
"
I do not like to assume, I prefer to know when it comes to medical use, for my health. I have read steam distillation is used for some of these terp extractions...and without lab testings to show that they are exactly the same full-spectrum, no way to know if they are identical to the *source* material used, or if they comply with a particular strain. Then as stp points out, a same named strain, could depending on the source/producer/grower, come out with a profile that more closely matches an entirely different strain! I believe the Werc Shop tested numerous strains, only to find on a analytical basis, some strains where incorrectly named, and appeared to have same 'profile' as another named strain...what is in a name?

And it goes back, way back: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=3827&page=2

^

I had The Werc Shop test a Hi-Fi choc bar that the label states contains 200mg THC, test results came out IIRC (can post the results if you want) ~98mg THC, ~130mb THCa >>>truth in labeling, you going to trust a dispensary or MMJ producer that is not regulated by the FDA... uh, huh, not me. True I could have heated/melted the choc bar @High enough temp for 30min to decarb the remaining ~130mg THCa, but that is not the point...never mind the hassle (I was ultra stressed out, had to make a ultra high calorie meal replacement drink that included 1.5g of Real Scientific Oil 20% CBD paste of horrible taste, and 100mg-200mg THC in melted choc bar>>> just do not need additional complication when I have zero time to go on, as my father was dying from metastatic prostate cancer).

*medical* marijuana needs testing standards that all can rely on. FDA does not regulate aromatherapy products, since they are not considered to be medicine; and no peer review scientific publications I know of, prove the efficacy of aromatherapy, any more than homeopathy. Maybe you should all be reducing terps, as homeopathy theory would suggest microscopic amounts do the trick. And what about like CBD having an antagonist effect on THC, likewise we do not have the studies to show, whether or not, if you raise a certain terp to such a level, whether there is a threshold level where you get antagonistic effects, negating your beneficial cannabinoid effects.

Peer reviewed scientific published articles from 2015 by The Werc Shop, latest article on the contaminant problems with concentrates (note, smaller sample size, of limited number of producers...would have been better to have more of the 'name' brand concentrates tested...Werc Shop does not mention the strains of producers/processors): http://thewercshop.com/information/scientific-studies/

LOL, my 1st error msg for post exceeding 10k char, must break into 2 posts, sorry mods :-)

If you want something different man, that is your prerogative of course, but for terpene isolates (ie: what this thread is about), yields of overall terps will be lower if you harvest earlier.

A few 7-9 week flowering varieties I have experience with for example IME tend to be useless for anything but solvent extracts if harvested at 7 weeks. Very little resin content in the glands means that you really have to try and get every bit of cannabinoid content wherever possible from other parts of the plant. This means that I can't bubble wash such material. It also means that the terps which develop in the glands are going to be comparatively scarce, as this terp production takes place later. The same thing harvested two weeks later is another world of resin production and content. This is the ideal feedstock for terpene isolation, since what you are putting into the pot has more of the desired actives.

One could distill terpenes from earlier harvested material with less terps to make terp isolates but the workload would be considerably greater and IMO, not justified. Some might do this of course, that is their business ;)

As for the published lab tests - you can check out SCLabs' published tests (or those from any number of other reputable facilities).

Also you seem to have somehow managed to arrive at the conclusion that I have suggested people should inhale non-cannabis derived terpenes. That is simply not true.

Your latter points about testing and edibles in the following post and a half are not very clearly related to the discussion here on terp isolates so I am not sure how to engage with them?

Let me paraphrase myself now for anyone who has missed posts elsewhere giving my views on terps:

* I do not recommend using terpenes from most vendors since they do not provide satisfactory test results/providence of their products. Most seem to think that Blue River are on point. I have not myself been one to consume terps yet and when I do, will most likely have isolated them myself (for my own personal reasons irrelevant to all of you).

* I do not recommend using non-cannabis derived terps for inhalation at all, as other stuff can come along for the ride in terpenes extracted from other plants. However, strictly speaking, pure isolates of non cannabis terpenes could be used to make a safe product for inhalation. The costs of processing and quality assurance would be excessive and probably unjustified using the methods I know of. This is not to say that others will not develop new methods in the future ;)

* If you want to use the blue river terps or similar, you need to be sure that you are ending up with reasonable terp %'s overall. This means you must have terp tested concentrates to begin with. If you buy rosin or BHO that is tested at 7% total terpenes by weight, then adding an additional 5% or so to get 12% total terps might be quite reasonable so long as some other factors are considered such as the next one:

As I mentioned in my above posts, this does not account for spikes in individual terpenes and one must always be careful here. To elaborate - some extracts from some chemovars will have a very large amount of one terp vs the others present, this is normal. In the case where you have a BHO or rosin etc with a spike in one given terpene (especially one that can be problematic in higher volumes like the pinenes), care should be taken to avoid using additional terps from a profile that contains too much of the same terpene as you may cause problems with too much of an individual terp for inhalation otherwise.

I hope this clears up what I was saying. :)

Terps are a brave new world and IME, most vendors/consumers are not up to speed enough on their safety to be selling or buying terp products for inhalation. That'll change - give them time. In the meantime, I'm happy to avoid added terps and stick to consuming whole resin glands from terp-rich flowers ;)

BTW in the discussion of bland herb/hash from ICmag, I will echo the comment that the best resin I have had was off of intersex, seeded plants too :)
 
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Anybody know what's up with Blue River. Just went to their website and the only product shown is a terpene infused candle.

Are they still in business? A web site screw up, maybe? Anybody know?

http://blueriverextracts.com/all-products/
I ordered some of the Sour Tangie 2 days ago. I've noticed they don't carry as many varieties as they used to, nonetheless, at the moment their just sold out.
 

Silat

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Anybody know what's up with Blue River. Just went to their website and the only product shown is a terpene infused candle.

Are they still in business? A web site screw up, maybe? Anybody know?

http://blueriverextracts.com/all-products/

They told me that they were selling to vendors so their site would not have the selection they usually have. Then they added that the site would have more selection in the future.
Too be clear, I thought the answer was confusing. :)
 
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