Aromed 4.0

Things seem to be getting a little heated here and I'm sort of scratching my head as to why....

Just because members don't agree on how they like to use their vapes, doesn't mean one way is better than another. Especially if the vaporist enjoys the way the vape works. One person's mod works for them and not for others. I've experienced this multiple times in beta testing.

Let's not negate each other's feelings/opinions here folks.

Aimless Ryan said:

There are at least a couple people here who have basically said, "My Aromed is freaking amazing, but I never use it."

Really? That makes sense.


If you want to waste an hour every day doing what should take you five minutes, I'm not going to stop you.

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A lot of people come from the smoking world, and want to replicate that feeling. Or some have medical issues where they want to feel the effects as soon as possible, such as yourself.

But, don't confuse a quick onset with a strong high. That is just the beginning. You aren't wastng an hour, you are getting super high. It's like this with food we eat. The faster the food is absorbed, the quicker your blood sugar drops, and the more hungrier you are so you are eating all the time whereas food that is slow to get absorbed keeps you satisfied for longer, and when you do get hungry, its not like when you eat fast absorbing food, its a more calm progression. Look at eating herb, it takes a while, but when it hits, its the strongest effect then smoking or vaping.

I know it sounds crazy to vape for around an hour, but its worth it. With the Aromed, because its so smooth, I have no problem with a long session. With smoking, and with most other vapes, I wouldn't do that because it would be too harsh for my lungs. I think you should test out clouds, and see for yourself how the clouds themselves effect how you feel the high. For example, vape at a certain temperature(400f is a good place), and test how different types of clouds effect you(thin,thick). You also should pay attention to the food you eat, because that plays a part as well. I know for me when I eat very little carbs, and just mostly protein rich foods,my high doesn't last long, and it isn't that strong. If I eat too much carbs, and very little protein, I get a lazy, almost dreamlike high. The best high is when I have a proper ratio of protein, and carbs.

As far as the Aromed being a waste of $400, you even wrote that your Aromed extracted your herb well when you went to put it back into your other vaporizer, even though it wasn't as harsh as the other vaporizer. That was the first sign that the Aromed is designed to be ultra smooth, even though it is extracting your herb well. I would think if the Aromed wasn't doing its job, you would have gotten a lot of vapor after you put it in the other vaporizer you use.

I don't think @KittensTasteYummy was being disrespectful, just stating his experience, and replying back to you. Maybe I missed something, but I didn't get any disrespect towards you. I think you should take heed to what @funkyjunky wrote, because it is true that acrylamide is made from heating carbohydrates to high temperatures. You maybe inhaling the acrylamide, and it may cause a lot of problems we don't know about yet, since you are inhaling, and not eating it. Like he wrote, clay may be a good substance to use. Anyway, peace to you.

Thanks for the advice, yeah they didn't say anything about US repair being possible and shipping both ways alone is around $100. I want to try it out, that being said it does look alot like a piece of lab equipment so not sure it will be a go to vape.

This may be my last post in this thread because I'm sick of being told how wrong I am after finding, documenting, and sharing very useful solutions to real problems experienced by real users of this device, then being told I'm wrong without anyone even attempting to demonstrate, in any way, how I am wrong, then making up ridiculous explanations for why this machine works so well specifically by not doing what it's supposed to do.

If I'm wrong, don't tell me; show me. Because when you say I'm wrong and act like you know what you're talking about, when I am right, all you do is keep other people from taking me seriously, thus keeping them in the dark. No one has demonstrated that I'm wrong, or even attempted to. If you do demonstrate that I am wrong, it will not upset me at all. Rather, I will learn something I may not have been able to learn on my own, which will make me happy.

There is nothing any more "medical" about the Aromed than any other vape. That is just marketing. Also, there's nothing about vaping at extremely low temperatures that is any more "medical" than vaping at extremely high temperatures. To me, that's just cheating yourself.

If you don't like being able to vape at within 50° or 100° of the displayed temperature, then great. I do, and at least a couple other people do, too.

Just remember, I now use my Aromed pretty much exclusively, even though it was basically useless to me the first five months I owned it; even when I managed to convince myself it wasn't useless. I had to make drastic changes in the function of my Aromed for it to be something I want to use every day, or at all; changes I will have to make over and over if I want to continue receiving relief from my Aromed.

At this point I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE AROMED TO ANYONE; especially legitimate medical users like myself, who live in absolutely horrible pain and other kinds of discomfort every second, are barely able to move, are very clumsy specifically because of their medical condition, etc. The Aromed simply requires too much work for its alleged target market, as well as too much potential for clumsiness, which results in broken expensive glass.

But since it looks like a 50-year-old medical device, it must be a medical device. Right?

The things I find negative about the Aromed could easily be refined to make it infinitely more useful for its target market, as well as for everyone else, without taking away anything from anyone. But they make no attempt, and they have never made an attempt. I am not going to praise them for choosing not to make revisions that would or could benefit every single user of this device.

If I was the producer of this product (or any product), negative feedback is exactly what I would want to hear from my customers, specifically so I could know what I have to do to make it more useful for everyone in my target market; specifically so I could earn some of their money. And I would also pay very close attention to things like the FC message boards, where people tell me for free how my product could be more attractive to even more people. You know, like Underdog and others do numerous times every day.

But they just don't do that.

I don't know how well this thing sells, but I do know that essentially no one on the planet (except me) talks about it.

Almost everything below was written yesterday, before I even read the response(s) to what I posted yesterday morning.

WRITTEN THE MORNING OF 1/11/16:

With my current modification, I am able to see a small amount of vapor at 270°F. With a previous mod, I was able to see a small amount of vapor at 330°F. Without any modifications, I can't see vapor at any setting below 340°F. I am becoming inclined to think the reason why I can now see vapor at 270 when I previously couldn't see vapor at any temperature below 330 is because of my "doughnut" mod, which you can see in my picture below (with an explanation following the picture).

Surprisingly, vaping 5-10 g of herbs at 270°-300° with the modification pictured below created a noticeable effect. However, it did not seem to relax me at all, which is probably by far the most important effect for me. In fact, vaping at an extremely low temperature seems to have made me feel even tighter, or jittery. This is all the cannabis I have consumed since waking up today.

Here's the current mod:



The screen is about 5-7 mm below the bottom of the lightbulb casing. I created a dough ring atop the screen to keep my herbs in the center of the herb chamber and to help direct the hot air through the herbs instead of blowing them to where the temperature is lower. If I remember correctly, the hole in the "doughnut" was a little smaller at first but I scraped off some of the baked dough to enlarge the hole. I have used this particular ring for long enough that it is near retirement (because it's blackened and broken).

I know someone is going to tell me how this is going to kill me (simply because it's dark), and they're going to do it by using a term they know absolutely nothing about (like potassium bromate). If so, all I can say is get real. Also, one thing you might notice is that it's not dark around the outside. That's NOT because heat gets distributed evenly within the Aromed herb holder.

WRITTEN THE AFTERNOON OF 1/11/16 (after the mail arrived)

My new glassware arrived today. The "Magic" emblem is not at the same height as the "Magic" emblem on my original herb holder. I don't have a problem with this; I'm just reporting this so everyone will know the height of certain letters on the herb holder doesn't tell us anything because it's not consistent between all herb holders.

Also, the first thing I did with this new glassware was load 0.05 g into the unmodified herb holder, then start vaping at 270°F. This didn't do anything; 340°F was the lowest temperature to produce any visible vapor. I'm not saying big clouds; I'm saying ANYTHING.

Also, 456°F (unmodified) felt like a lower temperature than 356°F feels with my Air. 456 (unmodified) also failed to brown my herbs to the extent that 356°F with my Air browns herbs.

Every measurable characteristic tells me very clearly that the number on my display is inaccurate by at least 70°F. Conversely, nothing indicates that I get a different effect because my two vapes simply function differently at equivalent temperatures. Everything indicates that the different results are entirely a result of the two vapes operating at completely temperatures when set at the same temperature.

That's just what the evidence keeps telling me, over and over. I am not hoping for any specific result to prove myself right or prove anyone else wrong. Rather, I am simply listening to what the evidence tells me, then sharing that information.

Convection does not mean every molecule of air is the same temperature as every other molecule of air. When using an Aromed, air is pulled away from the heat source, not pushed. Additionally, it's pulled from a very small area at the center of the bottom of the herb chamber. Which means every part of the screen not directly above the stem is considerably cooler than the area directly above the stem. Which is why herbs in the center of the herb holder always darken quicker than herbs around the perimeter of the herb holder, which really don't ever darken for me unless I stir the herbs.

My current interpretation of the informal experiment I have just conducted is that 456°F with my Aromed, unmodified, is fairly equivalent to using the Aromed at no higher than 300°F with my current modification. Since I do not combust at 456°F with this mod, I can only conclude that the displayed temperature with the mod is more accurate than the displayed temperature without the mod. Also, the herbs vaped at 270° with the riser mod seem to be the same color as herbs vaped at 456° unmodified.

Everyone I know of who has tried my riser mod has gotten the same or similar results as me. Everyone who seems to want the explanation to be different than the explanation I have proposed hasn't tried it. That is science at work, working. If you don't try it, you don't get to tell me I'm wrong. I don't care how much you think you know. And if the roles were reversed, I would expect you to say the same thing to me.

If and when anything changes to suggest to me that my current understanding of what's going on here is inaccurate, I will admit that I was wrong, then I will immediately continue looking for the right explanation. But if that evidence never materializes, I will have to assume my explanation is at least mostly accurate. Because that's how science works.

If I disagree with anyone (or myself, which I have done quite a bit), based entirely on evidence I have seen over and over, it's not personal. So please do not take it that way.

@Aimless Ryan You are getting angry for no reason. No one said you were wrong, we are just giving our take, but for some reason you are mad at some us who don't get the result you are getting, and we are trying to help you get those results. And some of your reasoning is wrong because you are not considering certain things.

1-They have been asked why they don't improve in the design so many times, and the answer they gave me made sense. I was told the reason why they kept this design was because it allows for the user to be able to use it for many years without needing a major fix. You can easily exchange the glass, the heater, and the processing area stays cool since it is away from the heater. And the materials won't offgas, giving the Aromed a seal of approval from Germany, and can be insured as a medical unit. After I heard that it made a lot of sense why they designed it the way they did.

2-The Aromed has been proven to be a medical device as it was used in a study. You can go to their site to learn more. I think for your type of medical condition, it isn't good, but for people who are asthmatic, and many other types of medical conditions, it is a blessing.

3-The Arizer air is not a pure convection vaporizer, its a hybrid, that means its function would be different from the Aromed so when you compare the two, and you talk about temperatures that is an important factors. Conduction heats up the herb directly, so you will get more visible vapor faster then a convection because air doesn't heat up the herb as quickly as direct contact. Secondly, the air has a design where you pack the chamber. When you do this, clouds or vapor is easily made because once the hot air travels through the densely packed chamber, it cools down considerably. Being that the cannabinoids are part of this hot air, it cools down as well. Plus, as the droplets come into contact with each other, they stick together, and this also cools the air down even more. This is how you get clouds, regardless of temperature.

4-The explanation above is why you are seeing vapor at 270f with your mod, but not with the original herb holder. Just think about it, water boils at 212f, you are vaping very little herb, and its dry, so if you are using something that allows air to flow free, it would make sense why wouldn't see vapor with the original herb holder. When you use you mod, it forces the vapor to cling to each other because as they travel though the narrow, and cooler, flour bowl they cool down, slow down, cling to each other, become large, and now you have visible vapor. You can google this if you!think I'm just making this up. Google "how are clouds formed"

5-Again when you write that the Aromed felt cooler then the Air at a higher temperature, that to me says it is doing what is was made to do, be easy on the lungs while still extracting efficiently. You even wrote that it extracted your herb, when you compared the two on extraction in your earlier post.

6-Yes, one part will heat up faster then others, but that is just how heat works. Nothing is going to get heated up uniformly all at once. It starts in one area, then spreads out. Again, you are using nothing but air to heat up your herb. The Air is a mixture of conduction, and convection, so it will heat evenly quicker. The downside is its harsher, you will burn some of your herb, and it won't heat evenly throughout the inside of the herb, at least as quickly as pure air. The pure air just requires more inhale time because your inhale is what's causing the air to travel through the herb.

Also, the Aromed cools down between each inhale, the Arizer air doesnt, so you need to factor that in when mentioning browning of the herb.

7-I think you should grind your herb more, and just use a regular metsal screen ontop of your herb to prevent it from flying around. You won't have to worry about any harmful effects, and there is no clean up.

8-I don't know if that was a jab at me, and funkyjunky when referring to acrylamide being made, but I do know what acrylamide is, and remember when the study was announced of the findings. You are a medical user, so we are just trying to prevent you making yourself worse, but you are dissingnus for it? I don't know what to say!

I think you should get a volcano digital. It allows for clouds to be formed easily. It requires very little work to load the bowl, and it does the inhale for you. Just use the liquid pad if you use the small amount you are using now because it will be flying around.

it's getting tense in this thread. anybody else feel like vaping ? My Aromed works great ! always has. I can't wait to get home and light it up .

luchiano said:

@Aimless Ryan5-Again when you write that the Aromed felt cooler then the Air at a higher temperature, that to me says it is doing what is was made to do, be easy on the lungs while still extracting efficiently. You even wrote that it extracted your herb, when you compared the two on extraction in your earlier post.

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I agree with Luchiano here. But it definitely sounds like your Aromed runs cooler than most of ours @Aimless Ryan . Even though mine seems hotter than yours, raising the screen helped my aromed perform better too. But if I vape at 456 even without a riser, it's quite thick, I just don't enjoy it too much because 456 is too hot for me. Raising the screen doesn't seem to affect the "temperature" but it seems to affect how much temperature is lost from reflecting through the glass herb chamber. When the screen is higher up less temperature is lost from that, but I still believe that the temperature is what it says it is. This means that 360 degrees will actually be 360 degrees when it touches the herb as opposed to maybe 340~.

Definitely get a classic or digital volcano Ryan! Since you don't have to draw from it and it's all their for you in the bag you can get much deeper hits and it feels more like instant relief!

Anyways we really appreciate your mod/ingenuity here Aimless Ryan! I don't want you to give up on FC and the like! I don't think anyone was saying you're wrong either we just wanted to inform you of certain risks!

P.S That 2 screen idea sandwich sounds like a great idea @luchiano !

Every time I bake a loaf of bread I think about Ryan's dough riser mod & I don't even have an Aromed, I'm spending too long on this forum.
In the end you have to do what suits you @Aimless Ryan but most people are speaking from their own experience & genuinely trying to share it, just as you've done with a lot of people here. Hope to see you back.

"Hello Tony,

thank you for your mail and a big excuse that we could not handle it earlier. Actually a smaller herb chamber was produced and did not get greater acceptance in Germany. Our US wholesalers did not respond on this article.

Your kind mail makes us think of offering the short herb chamber again.

We will send you a sample to try it out. As a small patients’ initiative we would be pleased if you share your experiences with the fuckcombustion community

Have nice day and feel welcome with your comments and suggestions regarding our AroMed!

with kindest regards
Frank


research&experience
F.Fuchs
Turnerstr.51
69126 Heidelberg
Germany"


I received this email a few days ago after emailing them a couple weeks ago! I will definitely report back with pictures of the shorter herb chamber and the results! @Aimless Ryan hope you're around buddy! This is your thing if you still use the aromed! Contact frank!!

Aimless Ryan said:

This may be my last post in this thread because I'm sick of being told how wrong I am after finding, documenting, and sharing very useful solutions to real problems experienced by real users of this device, then being told I'm wrong without anyone even attempting to demonstrate, in any way, how I am wrong, then making up ridiculous explanations for why this machine works so well specifically by not doing what it's supposed to do.

If I'm wrong, don't tell me; show me. Because when you say I'm wrong and act like you know what you're talking about, when I am right, all you do is keep other people from taking me seriously, thus keeping them in the dark. No one has demonstrated that I'm wrong, or even attempted to. If you do demonstrate that I am wrong, it will not upset me at all. Rather, I will learn something I may not have been able to learn on my own, which will make me happy.

There is nothing any more "medical" about the Aromed than any other vape. That is just marketing. Also, there's nothing about vaping at extremely low temperatures that is any more "medical" than vaping at extremely high temperatures. To me, that's just cheating yourself.

If you don't like being able to vape at within 50° or 100° of the displayed temperature, then great. I do, and at least a couple other people do, too.

Just remember, I now use my Aromed pretty much exclusively, even though it was basically useless to me the first five months I owned it; even when I managed to convince myself it wasn't useless. I had to make drastic changes in the function of my Aromed for it to be something I want to use every day, or at all; changes I will have to make over and over if I want to continue receiving relief from my Aromed.

At this point I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE AROMED TO ANYONE; especially legitimate medical users like myself, who live in absolutely horrible pain and other kinds of discomfort every second, are barely able to move, are very clumsy specifically because of their medical condition, etc. The Aromed simply requires too much work for its alleged target market, as well as too much potential for clumsiness, which results in broken expensive glass.

But since it looks like a 50-year-old medical device, it must be a medical device. Right?

The things I find negative about the Aromed could easily be refined to make it infinitely more useful for its target market, as well as for everyone else, without taking away anything from anyone. But they make no attempt, and they have never made an attempt. I am not going to praise them for choosing not to make revisions that would or could benefit every single user of this device.

If I was the producer of this product (or any product), negative feedback is exactly what I would want to hear from my customers, specifically so I could know what I have to do to make it more useful for everyone in my target market; specifically so I could earn some of their money. And I would also pay very close attention to things like the FC message boards, where people tell me for free how my product could be more attractive to even more people. You know, like Underdog and others do numerous times every day.

But they just don't do that.

I don't know how well this thing sells, but I do know that essentially no one on the planet (except me) talks about it.

Almost everything below was written yesterday, before I even read the response(s) to what I posted yesterday morning.

WRITTEN THE MORNING OF 1/11/16:

With my current modification, I am able to see a small amount of vapor at 270°F. With a previous mod, I was able to see a small amount of vapor at 330°F. Without any modifications, I can't see vapor at any setting below 340°F. I am becoming inclined to think the reason why I can now see vapor at 270 when I previously couldn't see vapor at any temperature below 330 is because of my "doughnut" mod, which you can see in my picture below (with an explanation following the picture).

Surprisingly, vaping 5-10 g of herbs at 270°-300° with the modification pictured below created a noticeable effect. However, it did not seem to relax me at all, which is probably by far the most important effect for me. In fact, vaping at an extremely low temperature seems to have made me feel even tighter, or jittery. This is all the cannabis I have consumed since waking up today.

Here's the current mod:

The screen is about 5-7 mm below the bottom of the lightbulb casing. I created a dough ring atop the screen to keep my herbs in the center of the herb chamber and to help direct the hot air through the herbs instead of blowing them to where the temperature is lower. If I remember correctly, the hole in the "doughnut" was a little smaller at first but I scraped off some of the baked dough to enlarge the hole. I have used this particular ring for long enough that it is near retirement (because it's blackened and broken).

I know someone is going to tell me how this is going to kill me (simply because it's dark), and they're going to do it by using a term they know absolutely nothing about (like potassium bromate). If so, all I can say is get real. Also, one thing you might notice is that it's not dark around the outside. That's NOT because heat gets distributed evenly within the Aromed herb holder.

WRITTEN THE AFTERNOON OF 1/11/16 (after the mail arrived)

My new glassware arrived today. The "Magic" emblem is not at the same height as the "Magic" emblem on my original herb holder. I don't have a problem with this; I'm just reporting this so everyone will know the height of certain letters on the herb holder doesn't tell us anything because it's not consistent between all herb holders.

Also, the first thing I did with this new glassware was load 0.05 g into the unmodified herb holder, then start vaping at 270°F. This didn't do anything; 340°F was the lowest temperature to produce any visible vapor. I'm not saying big clouds; I'm saying ANYTHING.

Also, 456°F (unmodified) felt like a lower temperature than 356°F feels with my Air. 456 (unmodified) also failed to brown my herbs to the extent that 356°F with my Air browns herbs.

Every measurable characteristic tells me very clearly that the number on my display is inaccurate by at least 70°F. Conversely, nothing indicates that I get a different effect because my two vapes simply function differently at equivalent temperatures. Everything indicates that the different results are entirely a result of the two vapes operating at completely temperatures when set at the same temperature.

That's just what the evidence keeps telling me, over and over. I am not hoping for any specific result to prove myself right or prove anyone else wrong. Rather, I am simply listening to what the evidence tells me, then sharing that information.

Convection does not mean every molecule of air is the same temperature as every other molecule of air. When using an Aromed, air is pulled away from the heat source, not pushed. Additionally, it's pulled from a very small area at the center of the bottom of the herb chamber. Which means every part of the screen not directly above the stem is considerably cooler than the area directly above the stem. Which is why herbs in the center of the herb holder always darken quicker than herbs around the perimeter of the herb holder, which really don't ever darken for me unless I stir the herbs.

My current interpretation of the informal experiment I have just conducted is that 456°F with my Aromed, unmodified, is fairly equivalent to using the Aromed at no higher than 300°F with my current modification. Since I do not combust at 456°F with this mod, I can only conclude that the displayed temperature with the mod is more accurate than the displayed temperature without the mod. Also, the herbs vaped at 270° with the riser mod seem to be the same color as herbs vaped at 456° unmodified.

Everyone I know of who has tried my riser mod has gotten the same or similar results as me. Everyone who seems to want the explanation to be different than the explanation I have proposed hasn't tried it. That is science at work, working. If you don't try it, you don't get to tell me I'm wrong. I don't care how much you think you know. And if the roles were reversed, I would expect you to say the same thing to me.

If and when anything changes to suggest to me that my current understanding of what's going on here is inaccurate, I will admit that I was wrong, then I will immediately continue looking for the right explanation. But if that evidence never materializes, I will have to assume my explanation is at least mostly accurate. Because that's how science works.

If I disagree with anyone (or myself, which I have done quite a bit), based entirely on evidence I have seen over and over, it's not personal. So please do not take it that way.

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Ryan I don't think the aromed temperature is lying to you however I do think the longer herb chamber loses a lot of heat from the transparent glass, this is why they use that aluminium inside the halogen light casing, so that less heat reflects away. When you raise your herb closer it's closer to the actual heat so the temperature on the aromed is more correct if you will, this is why a shorter herb chamber will work amazing I swear if you message Research and Experience with your issues and if you put pictures of your mod they will be very impressed and want to help, give them your mailing address I bet they'll send you a shorter holder!

luchiano said:

http://mounting.scotchbrand.com/wps...g/?N=7584065+7583086+7584073+3294529207&rt=r3

Or just use the smaller ones from 3M that are like little stickersthat you can put on a table to keep your water holder stable. Amazon sells them.

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Thank You...

Aimless Ryan said:

Please do. Based on a couple things you said, I think you will see the same difference I have experienced. Also, if you do it with flour and water like I have done, don't be afraid to ask me for tips. I have figured out some tricks that I haven't necessarily shared here.

I wish I could try it the way @lazylathe did it. (That was you, right?) I am basically doing the same thing, but from a more primitive perspective.

And even though I haven't said much lately, nothing's going to change (except that I'm almost certainly going to buy an Underdog before this month ends). I thought this mod was going to put that off for a while, if not completely, but people just keep reporting about how awesome their Underdog is. Don't think I have ever read about anyone being remotely disappointed with their @underdog.

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Have you checked out the Epic E-Nano? Make sure you do before you purchase the Underdog. It's personal preference, but the E-Nano uses a ceramic heater and functions using more convection than conduction. Link: https://epicvape.com/ It's a tiny log vape that is really amazing, and it doesn't take forever to heat up.

Vital said:

Thank You...

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I hope everyone knows that using gravity and lowering the aromed onto the herb chamber is easy as pie.

Aimless Ryan said:

I kind of feel like Research & Development has left the door wide open for someone to steal their concept and improve it, then give it a facelift and rebrand it, as there is lots of room for improvement.

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@ Aimless Ryan You're right...it's called the Herbalizer.

I think your riser is an ingenious fix to a poorly designed vaporizer...I bet you can make a lot of dough with it. Sorry couldn't resist. It really is a very creative mod Aimless Ryan.

Vital said:

@ Aimless Ryan You're right...it's called the Herbalizer.

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Yep, the verdamper < aromed < herbalizer


I took out the mods and used the aromed as intended with the bubbler it comes with and It gives huge clouds woah!! Here's a protip!

Turn the temperature up high and start your inhale then lower it down at whatever pace you like and it will produce vapor even better it's kind of like priming the cannibinoids! Do this for every draw if you want consistent huge clouds!!

Right now I own a
Solo Aromed Volcano

I will own these as well one day
Evo Log Vape Herbalizer Mighty

I hope to let you all know my preferences for each individual use

Right now I like the volcano for quick consistent vapes. I like the solo for on the go. I like the aromed for huge smooth draws!

TboneToker said:

Yep, the verdamper < aromed < herbalizer


I took out the mods and used the aromed as intended with the bubbler it comes with and It gives huge clouds woah!! Here's a protip!

Turn the temperature up high and start your inhale then lower it down at whatever pace you like and it will produce vapor even better it's kind of like priming the cannibinoids! Do this for every draw if you want consistent huge clouds!!

Right now I own a
Solo Aromed Volcano

I will own these as well one day
Evo Log Vape Herbalizer Mighty

I hope to let you all know my preferences for each individual use

Right now I like the volcano for quick consistent vapes. I like the solo for on the go. I like the aromed for huge smooth draws!

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The Verdamper and Evert are both amazing The Verdamper is different in that it uses a Nichrome wire coiled up for its heat source; and damn its Horky (bowl) is freakin' HUGE, and requires quite a bit of botanicals to work well. The Herbalizer and Aromed both use a UV free Quartz Halogen light bulb. Since we are including the Vedamper lets not forget the LSV (Life Saber), Vriptech, and the Herborizer...all of them have the heat source above the oven except the Herbalizer. The the reason I mentioned the Herbalizer is because it uses the same technology as the Aromed 4.0...a powerful quartz halogen lamp.

So I received my newest variation of the herb holder and it seems that there is actually 3 separate sizes of herb chambers.

The original large one.

A medium one.

And a short one.

Here's a picture of all three!

The small ones are much better the smallest one is the best and you can use less material with great results. They really should sell these ones I'm my opinion the aromed should come with the smallest or at least the medium one
https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=9064157400

TboneToker said:

So I received my newest variation of the herb holder and it seems that there is actually 3 separate sizes of herb chambers.

The original large one.

A medium one.

And a short one.

Here's a picture of all three!

The small ones are much better the smallest one is the best and you can use less material with great results. They really should sell these ones I'm my opinion the aromed should come with the smallest or at least the medium one
https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=9064157400

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The link you posted takes me to photobox, but I don't see your pictures.

TboneToker said:

So I received my newest variation of the herb holder and it seems that there is actually 3 separate sizes of herb chambers.

The original large one.

A medium one.

And a short one.

Here's a picture of all three!

The small ones are much better the smallest one is the best and you can use less material with great results. They really should sell these ones I'm my opinion the aromed should come with the smallest or at least the medium one
https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/full?photo_id=9064157400

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They should market the new holders as "recreational use". If I'm correct, I take it you saw clouds much faster then the original one?

From what I was told a few years ago, when you raise the screen closer to the bulb, the temperature raises, but it's because of airflow not because its closer to the screen. When you do a mod like the flour bowl, fill the bowl or aromed's short version, there is less air going through the chamber. Essentially, you're controlling the amount of air going through the herb.

You're lucky, because when I asked about the short holders, franc thought I was another company trying to get info on them. I had to let him know I was just a customer who saw them on a german site. It was funny to me.

@Aimless Ryan You should tell your story, and see if they give some samples as well.

luchiano said:

They should market the new holders as "recreational use". If I'm correct, I take it you saw clouds much faster then the original one?

From what I was told a few years ago, when you raise the screen closer to the bulb, the temperature raises, but it's because of airflow not because its closer to the screen. When you do a mod like the flour bowl, fill the bowl or aromed's short version, there is less air going through the chamber. Essentially, you're controlling the amount of air going through the herb.

You're lucky, because when I asked about the short holders, franc thought I was another company trying to get info on them. I had to let him know I was just a customer who saw them on a german site. It was funny to me.

@Aimless Ryan You should tell your story, and see if they give some samples as well.

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Post your fuck combustion account to him he will believe you.

By the way If anyone wants to see a picture pm me i can't seem to get it to work here

It might work as good as a herbalizer with this chamber, if I ever had a reason to get a herbalizer like a good price used I'll let you know but I hope you all can get the shortest version of the herb holders cause it is killing the vape game as far as I can tell 420$ for water vape that works as good as any other vape on the market with precise controls. It feels more precise with the shorter herb chamber. This is actually a big thing guys @Aimless Ryan was saying they needed to improve things and this is one of those things,

@luchiano recreational herb holder would be fine but I don't see why it would be necessary because a lot of us are medical, especially someone buying an Aromed hahaha. I honestly believe this herb holder, the shortest one which btw is 2 inches is perfect

The medium one is actually probably also supposed to be like the small one cause it appears to be 2 1/8 so maybe just a mishap that was supposed to be 2 inches, my regular herb holder and the ones I buy for replacement are 2 1/2 inches, btw I am measuring from the top to the screen.

Yay for Research and development,yay for Research and Experience! the aromed is here you best fear it's gonna make your medicine almost sear so that you can see clear and get up smile and cheer! P.s how many users actually have a white/black/red aromed? Mine is the normal one but I believe I had the choice of black as well. I think white would be nice for the aromed but I didn't have the option

Also the vapor is still as smooth as it's ever been, there's simply more of it coming out in one bit, so I can measure me draws better and easier

With this chamber the Herbalizer really can't say much against the Aromed especially if we consider the price

@luchiano @momofthegoons any Aromed lovers here, I think you'll want to get your hands on these new holders! @Vital @VapeKnight @Stu @lazylathe @Wizsteve they don't need thicker glass wiz this herb chamber will answer your prayers and make you want to use your aromed with herbs

I've always thought that my Aromed has worked flawlessly. The taste and extraction are superb. However, if there are improvements that can be made then I'm in favor. I have tried raising the screen in the original herb holder with no noticeable difference though I'm curious if the change of size could impact the outcome. for those still trying to raise the height of the screen , I found that a simple bead of silicone inside the herb holder worked the easiest.

TboneToker said:

@luchiano @momofthegoons any Aromed lovers here, I think you'll want to get your hands on these new holders! @Vital @VapeKnight @Stu @lazylathe @Wizsteve they don't need thicker glass wiz this herb chamber will answer your prayers and make you want to use your aromed with herbs

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I wish that would work for mine but even rising the screen didn't help. And I would disagree about the thickness of the glass the shit is way too thin (at least mine is lol) And with all these cracks in others I would say its true with most?

Mines been packed away for a while now few ideas I might try is soaking the heater in iso
and getting that uv bulb . Haven't played with mine for a while went thru like 3 ounces in a 1 month time I was trying to get it to work lol and it never did .

So you all think it would be safe to soak the heater in iso? or just dipping? I thinking the temp censor is dirty

Wizsteve said:

I wish that would work for mine but even rising the screen didn't help. And I would disagree about the thickness of the glass the shit is way too thin (at least mine is lol) And with all these cracks in others I would say its true with most?

Mines been packed away for a while now few ideas I might try is soaking the heater in iso
and getting that uv bulb . Haven't played with mine for a while went thru like 3 ounces in a 1 month time I was trying to get it to work lol and it never did .

So you all think it would be safe to soak the heater in iso? or just dipping? I thinking the temp censor is dirty

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I recommend that you pick up a pair of cotton gloves before you anywhere near the light bulb. http://www.cvs.com/shop/health-medi...ton-gloves-dermatological-medium-skuid-265992

The glass heaters cover screws on just like a light bulb. Gently turn it counterclockwise and it will come off. The light bulb plugs into the Aromed using two pins. If you carefully pull the light bulb straight out, it will come off. DO NOT TOUCH THE LIGHTBULB WITH YOUR BARE FINGERS. The oils from your hands will remain on the bulb and create a hot spot when the bulb is turned on. You NEVER want to touch a quartz halogen bulb with your fingers. If you do either on purpose or accidentally, make sure you clean the bulb thoroughly with 99% alcohol, then let it air dry. That will ensure there is no oil left on the light bulb. Be very careful when cleaning the inside. The wire you will see is the thermostat that measures the temperature for the Aromed. Be very careful NOT to move that wire or the unit will not measure the temperature properly and may require sending the unit back to research&experience for recalibration.


Good luck...Hope this helps!

Vital said:

I recommend that you pick up a pair of cotton gloves before you anywhere near the light bulb. http://www.cvs.com/shop/health-medi...ton-gloves-dermatological-medium-skuid-265992

The glass heaters cover screws on just like a light bulb. Gently turn it counterclockwise and it will come off. The light bulb plugs into the Aromed using two pins. If you carefully pull the light bulb straight out, it will come off. DO NOT TOUCH THE LIGHTBULB WITH YOUR BARE FINGERS. The oils from your hands will remain on the bulb and create a hot spot when the bulb is turned on. You NEVER want to touch a quartz halogen bulb with your fingers. If you do either on purpose or accidentally, make sure you clean the bulb thoroughly with 99% alcohol, then let it air dry. That will ensure there is no oil left on the light bulb. Be very careful when cleaning the inside. The wire you will see is the thermostat that measures the temperature for the Aromed. Be very careful NOT to move that wire or the unit will not measure the temperature properly and may require sending the unit back to research&experience for recalibration.


Good luck...Hope this helps!

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I'd like to state that the heat sensor is not going to break easily, by this I mean if it looks scorched, don't worry about it, nine looks burnt kind of brown and so do the screws by the light but my aromed works flawless, as long as you don't reposition the heat sensor it should be fine, basically moving it a tiny bit will change it.

P.s guys I really think we have helped make the aromed more popular! When I purchased mine in 2014 there was only 2 or 3 videos of it online, now there are more than double that of new ones!

Could a few post a few pic's of the inside heat sensor position area ? it really could help a few of us figure out if thiers got moved.