Chandler Jones & Synthetic MJ

Tstat

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I don't know how many of you are Pats fans or have been following the Chandler Jones story. Basically he ingested some synthetic marijuana and ended up shirtless and shoeless at the Foxboro PD. He was all kinds of messed up I guess:

The documents show Jones “scurried” through the police parking lot and ran toward the station’s rear entrance. Then, without warning or prompting, Jones got down on his knees, interlocked his fingers, and placed his hands tightly against the back of his head.

So, WTF is up with this synthetic weed? I know people's bodies process things differently, but we are talking about a huge, healthy guy. Anyone try it and freak out? I know it was legal here up until a few months ago, but of course I never had the desire or need to try it.

Maybe Chandler did it because he didn't want to test positive for MJ by the league?

Go Pats.
 
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Delta3DStudios

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My friend got really into that shit for a while (he was on other stuff beyond herbs). I tried it once, then my friend left shortly after, I meanwhile proceeded to 'freak out'. Heart pounding, mind racing. It wasn't a good feeling at all. Definitely didn't feel anything like cannabis

Few weeks later I was hanging out with him. Didn't have my glass bowl (I was still smoking at the time) so I used his (loaded my own herbs so I didn't use that synthetic shit). I took one puff, and tasted the synthetic resins left over on his dirty glass. Holy hell was that enough to make me 'partially' freak out. What the hell was that stuff, I have no clue, but I knew from that point on I'd never get anywhere near it.
 

Derrrpp

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Yeah that synthetic shit is definitely bad news... I know a couple people who have had full-blown grand mal seizures from smoking it. :o

I've watched a friend slowly waste away as he struggled with his addiction to it...

IMO it seems much more similar to meth than to cannabis...

:2c:
 

HellsWindStaff

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I know a couple people who have had full-blown grand mal seizures from smoking it. :o

Not sure exactly what this is (the grand mal seizure), but I had a HORRIBLE time with Synthetic Cannabis.

Just looked up some stuff on Grand Mal Seizures......I may have had a mild one? There were a few times when I was drinking and using "spice" where I felt I overdid it and "greened out" but there was one other time in particular that really stands out to me.

Had a legal situation, where I had to quit weed for a few months because I thought I would end up getting probation or some sort of punishment where I would be tested...I got 40 hours of community service, so I am pissed at myself for not being able to just quit weedy things at the time and also swoll that I never had to quit in the first place.

I bought a little chillum, this was my "spice pipe" didn't want to ever use anything else, and wanted it to only have spice resin as I didn't want to get a positive from weed resin. Worked well enough, but I was craving more. I have never done crack, but spice is kind of like weed crack....the high is very short lived is really what I mean. And I feel your tolerance increases quickly through the day.

So, to get a better/bigger experience, I made a GB, with my chillum as the bowl. Believe I used molding clay to seal around the edges and hold it perfect in place! Thing was pretty sweet for a man made contraption!

I smoked spice throughout the days typically. Just like I would do weed for like 3 months. Really regret it, feel I killed brain cells.

After a few months, I did one GB too many. I remember ripping it, and then sitting down with my roomates in our living room. I feel really weird. I get up.

My head, felt light headed. My vision, got almost pixelated? Tunnely? Its hard to describe...because I wasn't focused much on that.

But my body, my body is electrocuting. That's why I actually think it may have been Grand Mal, because I saw the stuff about electrical impluses getting screwed up to your muscles and brain. My WHOLE body felt like it was tingling like crazy, like when you have a numb foot and then blood gets back into it. But it hurt! It was so painful to walk! When I talked to my friends, my voice like reverbated my body and it hurt! I walked to my room and bed, when I sit on the bed, jolts! When I lie down! Jolts! When I shift any little way, just intensely uncomfortable pain shoots through my whole body. I close my eyes and try not to move.

I feel better in about 10 minutes. Don't smoke it much more after then. Found out everything was clear shortly thereafter and go back to tree :) Scariest experience I have ever had with any drug and closest I ever came to calling 911 or seeking medical help because I took a drug.

I am a stubborn guy, and I'm stubborn medically. I don't really like going to the Dr. If I'm feeling ill or discomfort, I'll grin and bear it for a minute and try home/self remedies, rather then go for something that amounts to "small." And after 10 minutes, I was relatively fine, if not a bit out of it and just shaken at the experience. Me lying on the bed and waiting for it to pass, was me "grinning and bearing it," but I told my friends prior that I may need serious medical help, and they checked me and I told them I was feeling better a few minutes into laying on the bed.

I could wholeheartedly understand why someone would immediately call 911, or in his case, stumble to the police station, it was the weirdest and strangest and UNHEALTHIEST way my body has ever felt. Weed for the most part, or maybe we're used to it, doesn't make me feel off. Sometimes when I take uppers, I'm a little antsy and have sweaty palms/extremities, I feel a little off, but I don't feel unhealthy and its an expected effect (at least for me). This was totally different, 100% negative.
 

capcoho

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Watch some "Vice News" or just "YouTube" it. Seems just nasty. Literally a chemical concoction that keeps skipping through legal loopholes.

...meanwhile non-harmful cannabis is illegal and folks sit in prison and worse for it.
 

SSVUN~YAH

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Yup it's crap and shit has to change or else people will continue this crap! It's not healthy it's not medicine it's not cannabis! It's more like potpourri with chemicals found under your sink poured onto it... Unfortunately I have first hand experience bc I couldn't use cannabis and pass a very rigid rehabilitation test. I wish I never knew the stuff existed. Tasted terrible usually like cologne soap or perfumish. I couldn't even play call of duty on it bc it messes your mind and lungs up so bad. It's a shame our government won't take a stand and legalize cannabis. Until then crap like this will remain relevant! I just buried a good friend likely to heroine abuse. I'm a firm believer that if he had options like there are in Colorado, he would have kicked the bullshit and still be here today!
 
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