Dynavap VapCap

@herbalist33 yes turned by myself. I like the Blackwood it takes a polish really well.
Thanks @Unisonruss and @Shit Snacks I am steadily working thru a mind full of ideas. Just a matter of translating them from thoughts to 3D objects.
I'm enjoying making and of course more than enjoying testing them.

Finally got my og vapcap, was working okay, now no click? What gives? I notice there is a chunk missing on the tip as well.

@Archaicrevival the click can be very subtle sometimes. I would try some empty runs and see what happens.

phattpiggie said:

@Archaicrevival the click can be very subtle sometimes. I would try some empty runs and see what happens.

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I've tried, no click.

Sorry no idea. Just a stab in dark. How about putting it in the freezer. The cold may contract it enough for the click to come back. If you know what I mean. If I put mine hot on a magnet it is really loud. I just this minute picked it off the neo and it clicked and it had cooled down to room temp. Perhaps ask @VapCap if he has come across this before?

phattpiggie said:

Sorry no idea. Just a stab in dark. How about putting it in the freezer. The cold may contract it enough for the click to come back. If you know what I mean. If I put mine hot on a magnet it is really loud. I just this minute picked it off the neo and it clicked and it had cooled down to room temp. Perhaps ask @VapCap if he has come across this before?

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Also the lighter exploded and broke.

Archaicrevival said:

Finally got my og vapcap, was working okay, now no click? What gives? I notice there is a chunk missing on the tip as well.

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The click is created on the other end, on the 'cap' end. Doubt that little mark makes in difference. Sounds like there is something wrong with your cap though.

YaFreekin Right said:

The click is created on the other end, on the 'cap' end. Doubt that little mark makes in difference. Sounds like there is something wrong with your cap though.

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I fixed the lighter and now I get subtle hit click and 2 cool down clicks that seem very delayed.

I get delayed cool down clicks to the point where you think its not going to happen and it goes off when I put the heat on again. Hope it starts working again. Be wary of the lighter. I've got another that I pulled the black adjuster piece up enough to allow me to up the flame and at no point did the brass move.

phattpiggie said:

I get delayed cool down clicks to the point where you think its not going to happen and it goes off when I put the heat on again. Hope it starts working again. Be wary of the lighter. I've got another that I pulled the black adjuster piece up enough to allow me to up the flame and at no point did the brass move.

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As far as cleaning I used 420 soak n rinse, On the bottle it says it's safe for metals...but not plastics, so I wouldn't fill the case half full of this particular solution, though the directions for vapcap don't specify this.

Hi guys.
So I had another episode of VAS syndroma and ordered the pyrovap+vapcap+lighter combo earlier today. What surprises me is that I did not received any notification email. Nor for the account creation, payement or order confirmation. Is this usual with them? Should I expect to receive an email a bit later maybe?

f2j said:

Hi guys.
So I had another episode of VAS syndroma and ordered the pyrovap+vapcap+lighter combo earlier today. What surprises me is that I did not received any notification email. Nor for the account creation, payement or order confirmation. Is this usual with them? Should I expect to receive an email a bit later maybe?

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I thought I didn't get one either, I did. Check spam.

So my woodie has been holding up well. Survived several drops, no more cracking. I took I believe Dan Morrison's advice, and started adding oil to the wood to prevent cracking and it seems to be doing well.

I finally got a chance to try using my vapcap as a daily drive when I'm out. So far it's been fulfilling it's role well. I can kill a load in 2, sometimes 1 hit, and it's certainly faster than the arizer portables I've had in the past.

I've been walking my dog at this place where some people built a lean-to/teepee out of sticks, and I always dip in there for a quick sesh with the vapcap while my dog sniffs around. Loving the speed of this thing.

Anyone ever hear of this thing?

http://www.elementiumlighter.com/co...l_products&utm_campaign=plz-x_ranker_jan-2016

Plazmatic X butane less electronic lighter, could be used to heat VapCap perhaps? Might be too hot though... No idea about that

They also have a Pure Spark Elite which is just a coil it seems, for bongs and pipes, maybe that'd work even better for a VapCap? Kinda like the car cig lighter ideas people were throwing out...

Shit Snacks said:

Plazmatic X butane less electronic lighter, could be used to hear VapCap perhaps? Might be too hot though... No idea about that

They also have a Pure Spark Elite which is just a coil it seems, for bongs and pipes, maybe that'd work even better for a VapCap? Kinda like the car cig lighter ideas people were throwing out...

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I seriously doubt it. That battery can provide a tiny fraction of the total power we need. Normally most of the power (heat) comes from burning the gas. This is like a sparkplug, it's not going to power your car without gasoline.

Ironically, while spots of the spark are hotter than we need (in degrees) the heat available (in calories) is way way short of the total needed. It's not hot enough by a long way. I doubt it'd make the cap more than slightly warm.

Likewise, hot wires will have too few calories to offer us to give more than warm. And we need hot and lots of it. Even if you could couple the heat into the VapCap (which you can't) you'd still be 'miles short' I fear.

Flint and steel can make a spark that lights the tinder to make a fire to make coffee. But without the tinder and firewood you're not going to generate enough heat for your coffee to notice. Just some pretty sparks. And some bad words.

Perhaps the idea of using a very high power mod (say 100 Watts, not the fraction we're seeing here) could heat a custom coil enough given time (it's have to be in ten second steps of course).

Hopefully I'll be getting my VapCap soon (order 570 something), I intend to try to get a grip on the power needed but it's sure to be many times what say MFLB uses (which is something over 10 Watts) and the box doesn't heat anything but herb, by comparison 100% coupling and no losses (even though those are both impossible in absolute terms). A soldering iron that size (similar losses) would be maybe two dozen watts to reach the same sort of temperatures (370F to melt solder) with much much better coupling (heater completely inside the tip). And it'd take many minutes doing so.

Archaicrevival said:

If that would work that would be great, but I think it would get too hot

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Don't put any money on it....... Or if still want to, PM me?

OF

Shit Snacks said:

Anyone ever here of this thing?

http://www.elementiumlighter.com/co...l_products&utm_campaign=plz-x_ranker_jan-2016

Plazmatic X butane less electronic lighter, could be used to hear VapCap perhaps? Might be too hot though... No idea about that

They also have a Pure Spark Elite which is just a coil it seems, for bongs and pipes, maybe that'd work even better for a VapCap? Kinda like the car cig lighter ideas people were throwing out...

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If that would work that would be great, but I think it would get too hot

Archaicrevival said:

I thought I didn't get one either, I did. Check spam.

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Thank you so much, indeed they were in spambox.

@FlyingLow here some photos of VC heating station.

I use my VC only through it since I put it together

http://imgur.com/a/MOlJf

@OF I dont know how many watts it is (2x18650) but it really works good and quite fast!

@Andreaerdna To work out the power you need the voltage, series or parallel batteries, and the resistance of the coil.
@Shit Snacks I think by the time the click went off you would have had enough ozone to put you off. At least the de ionized air would help with odor control.

Andreaerdna said:

I use my VC only through it since I put it together

[URL]http://imgur.com/a/MOlJf[/URL]

[USER=7683]@OF I dont know how many watts it is (2x18650) but it really works good and quite fast![/USER]

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Thank you, I believe I've see it before? Earlier in the thread?

As PP says without some numbers we don't know the power going on, but I suspect it's pretty high. How long will the two 18650s run it? They are probably in the 15 to 20 Wh range, so represent 30 or 40 Wh total Maybe a bit less. If they run it for say 15 minutes flat out (1/4 of an hour) which I doubt, that's 60 to 80 Watts....give or take. I think, from 'seat of pants' experience that that's the sort of power needed. We want lots of hot really fast.

OF

OF said:

Thank you, I believe I've see it before? Earlier in the thread?

As PP says without some numbers we don't know the power going on, but I suspect it's pretty high. How long will the two 18650s run it? They are probably in the 15 to 20 Wh range, so represent 30 or 40 Wh total Maybe a bit less. If they run it for say 15 minutes flat out (1/4 of an hour) which I doubt, that's 60 to 80 Watts....give or take. I think, from 'seat of pants' experience that that's the sort of power needed. We want lots of hot really fast.

OF

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Your welcome, it is a @paytonpenn copyright, he posted a video about it some pages ago (around 57th page ?)

I am kind too lazy to keep numbers while using it, but your estimations seems right.

It takes little more than 10 secs at first to warm up but after first cicle it takes definitely less than 10secs to re-click.

I do not own a VM station but from what I hear about users that have it, I get similar results: slower extraction, better flavor, consistent results everytime, loving it.
And I can use it one handed, that is nice! while reading you have only to pay attention to the click sound

@VapCap : Any thought of, say, an anodized aluminum sleeve? I'm wondering if heat fins (like on this "bone" pipe) would be enough to keep it reasonably cool.

Eyedunno said:

@VapCap : Any thought of, say, an anodized aluminum sleeve? I'm wondering if heat fins (like on this "bone" pipe) would be enough to keep it reasonably cool.

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I don't know I completely understand what you are asking. Other than the very end of the VapCap, where the cap is and the heat is applied, the unit doesn't get hot. The glass the original is constructed from is essentially an insulator compared to metal and the heat even after many cycles doesn't make the unit uncomfortably hot. In addition to this, the way the inverse induction airflow is designed, cooling air washes the inside surface of the unit like a counter flow heat-exchanger absorbing the heat from where it doesn't belong (in the body or stem as well as cooling the condenser tube) and dissipates it into the vapor stream.

I have fins incorporated into the Ti tips, but there is much more to it than just the fins when it comes to effective thermal management. At the interface between the tip and the body or stem, there are several high temperature orings. These orings not only allow for easy assembly/disassembly, but also create an effective thermal break to dramatically reduce the thermal progression of heat from the Ti ti into the rest of the unit. This is in addition to the inverse induction airflow described above.

So even though this unit is very small, and it can be heated with a torch, it doesn't get hot like the old style "one hitters do"

I welcome comments and feedback for others who have been using a VapCap for a while.

Also here are a few pictures of some of the next generation parts and upgrades I hope to have available soon.

The Two Barrel



And the Four Barrel with a high performance turbulator throttle body/condenser.



Also, I am working on a production run of the crowns for the Ti Woody. Hopefully those will be ready soon. When they are, they will be available at no cost to anyone who currently has a Ti Woody and then they will be incorporated into all Ti Woodys moving forward.

Thank you everyone for the support!

Cheers,

George

I love watching the evolution of the VapCap and its brethren. I still only have the OG (and Dynastash) but it probably won't be long before I get a Glassie or something else...

Damn VAS...

cybrguy said:

I love watching the evolution of the VapCap and its brethren. I still only have the OG (and Dynastash) but it probably won't be long before I get a Glassie or something else...

Damn VAS...

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Look at that awesome four barrel