Is there a problem with this wax?

lonelyhero

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For a few months now I have been having a horrid reaction to concentrates and only had this one batch to try I opened it tonight to try a tiny amount to see if I'd be ok and it looked strange to me and all my issues started when I got this batch but after sitting there's a sticky coating all over my silicone container and really thin liquidy wax around the main mass

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JamesTiberiousKirk

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I have no idea. But I love the subject heading.

I am in a legal locality, so everything is theoretically tested (hopefully with non theoretical test procedures and instruments).

I have some aged (12 months!) Dutch Treat CO2 oil that looks a bit like that, I tried it a couple of days ago... and just woke up a few seconds ago. Refreshed but happy.

It may be somewhat degraded to CBN, and that is OK, if you use it for sleepy time.

Just my take.
 
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lonelyhero

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Dizziness headache and very high heart rate kinda like a panic attack tho herbivore says it might be a tolerance issue since I went months without anything and lost 60 lbs
 

lonelyhero

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When I put it in the silicone jar it was one smoothe translucent lump it looks like it's been bubbling in there as the ring around the outside formed on its own and it's now opaque
 
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cptchronic

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Since you said you've had it a couple months and it was translucent, if it passes the spark test, it's probably just the strain buddering up on you.

Shouldn't be anything wrong in my opinion, just try half the dab you have been taking and see if u get anxious or have headaches.
 

lonelyhero

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Thanks for the advice everyone I appreciate it gonna try to start slow and see what happens
 
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valleysquirrel

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Does this ''couch lock nug run'' look weird to you guys? I never pick up concentrates and the dude at the dispensary said it was a bit ''sugared up'' but that it was good stuff. It sparks up a pinch when I hit it with a lighter

 
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iDRINKBLEACH

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Does this ''couch lock nug run'' look weird to you guys? I never pick up concentrates and the dude at the dispensary said it was a bit ''sugared up'' but that it was good stuff. It sparks up a pinch when I hit it with a lighter

what do you mean by spark. Underpurge will sparkle like fireworks. All dabs will start up in flames under direct flame. Looks kinda moist tho.
 
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herbivore21

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what do you mean by spark. Underpurge will sparkle like fireworks. All dabs will start up in flames under direct flame. Looks kinda moist tho.
Hmm that moistness does stand out to me too brother, good eye!

However I will point out that after just experimenting now: no oil that I have (whether QWISO, QWET or rosin) sparks or catches a flame when held to a direct flame (tested with a BIC lighter and a Lotus jet lighter). I can't rule out super high terp containing oils catching flame when held up to a lighter, but I would only expect this to take place where terps have been added (especially low flash point highly flammable terps like d-limonene). I am working with very high limonene strains here atm though and my full melt and rosin will not catch flame no matter how hard I try.

@valleysquirrel do you get sparks when you dab this oil? Could you make a video of this oil being applied to a hot nail? Still, that moist residue on the parchment does not look great to me. I would not put a concentrate that wet onto parchment in the first place!

On the other hand, some very high end high terp retaining solvent concentrates (some of the new Moxie oils for example that I've seen COA's from well in excess of 10% terps) look considerably like the sugary consistency in your picture @valleysquirrel (although not the moisture) was it expensive oil?

@lonelyhero I do wonder if you have nucleation here (buddering). If this is the case, you got nothing to worry about :) As I said, your anxiety experience can certainly be explained by major weight loss and a long t break - I've been there before! Was that oil sitting unused for a long time at room temp?
 
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iDRINKBLEACH

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@herbivore21 I guess you may be tight I have only caught a flame when torching a nail clean that was gunked up.
I had some rosin I pressed from GG4 @200f and it came out sugary oatmeal blonde. It was not as moist as that but I've made clean extracts outside in humid weather and it looked like that.
 

herbivore21

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@herbivore21 I guess you may be tight I have only caught a flame when torching a nail clean that was gunked up.
I had some rosin I pressed from GG4 @200f and it came out sugary oatmeal blonde. It was not as moist as that but I've made clean extracts outside in humid weather and it looked like that.
Yup I'd say you're right on there bro, most anything will catch flame/get red hot from a sustained larger butane torch flame like that ;)

I work in sky-high relative humidity (75% RH is the average this time of year!!!) and have never had that kind of moisture come out of flowers unless they were still too fresh/not dry enough. Still, different kinds of parchment will effect the extent/appearance of absorption of any moisture/terps/etc into the surface too. Coupling this with other possibilities, there really are too many variables to determine the cause conclusively here.

Do we know what kind of extraction the earl in question was made with?
 
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valleysquirrel

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@iDRINKBLEACH
Well I guess it doesn't spark that much. I've for sure had concentrate that's really caught flames and this isn't that bad. But yeah I was mostly just weirded out by the oiliness and texture since I've never seen anything like this.

@herbivore21
I have a rather poopy glass nail and no torch :/ is there any other kind of test I can perform? If what I'm workin with will do then i'll give it a shot!

The texture is almost like wet sugar or sand. It falls apart pretty easily and doesn't clump a whole lot. It doesn't smell weird or anything, it actually smells like some pretty dank bud like GSC maybe.

The only test I tried was a lil dab inside an indica spacer in my solo. It didn't taste off really. The bake wasn't too bad but it was a very small dab so it didn't hit me too hard either.

The stuff was rather cheap at $30 g's from this very nice place in my area. The thing is I've tried their other shatter for the same price and it just seemed so much cleaner and did not spark at all.

Maybe I'm overthinking this.. Just not down to take rips of whatever solvent they used
 

herbivore21

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@iDRINKBLEACH
Well I guess it doesn't spark that much. I've for sure had concentrate that's really caught flames and this isn't that bad. But yeah I was mostly just weirded out by the oiliness and texture since I've never seen anything like this.

@herbivore21
I have a rather poopy glass nail and no torch :/ is there any other kind of test I can perform? If what I'm workin with will do then i'll give it a shot!

The texture is almost like wet sugar or sand. It falls apart pretty easily and doesn't clump a whole lot. It doesn't smell weird or anything, it actually smells like some pretty dank bud like GSC maybe.

The only test I tried was a lil dab inside an indica spacer in my solo. It didn't taste off really. The bake wasn't too bad but it was a very small dab so it didn't hit me too hard either.

The stuff was rather cheap at $30 g's from this very nice place in my area. The thing is I've tried their other shatter for the same price and it just seemed so much cleaner and did not spark at all.

Maybe I'm overthinking this.. Just not down to take rips of whatever solvent they used
Hmm I do wonder if you have just gotten lucky and found some really nice terpy material? Well done if so!

Regardless, I would get it the off of that parchment and put it onto glass or something else that isn't reacting with/absorbing the moisture though. Anything that absorbs into the parchment when just left sitting on top of it is not something I would leave sitting on said parchment for fear of some of the parchment coming along for the ride in my dabs.

Do you have COA/test results for this concentrate - if you can post these I can definitely have a closer look :)
 
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herbivore21

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@herbivore21 yea that wax was sitting for a few months in a desk drawer
Ahh good this means you could have just had some autobuddering happen :)

That is nothing to worry about if that is all that has taken place! However, go easy on those big dabs brother ;)

BTW, tell me, if you lift up the slab from the container (if this is easy to do - may not be depending on consistency), is there a white residue on the bottom of the slab that was touching the silicone? I find this occurs with every oil I've ever had without fail over time!
 
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lonelyhero

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No white residue but there's a bit of Amber liquid kinda like moisture separated from it
 
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