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pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
Since I opened up dialog regarding this with my comment, I will reply that we will take this under consideration. However, for now it stands.

I'd just like to respectfully suggest you reconsider. As has been mentioned 1) these vendors put EVERY frickin' thing resembling weed in their descriptions....it's stupid, I agree, but that's how they do. 2) We would have to make requests to multiple vendors, they would have to change multiple listings, and 3) They really don't care about our little forum, even if we do generate business for them. What they care about is making money, and they won't see this as a threat. 4) That would pretty much put an end to this thread - it's all about sharing links and reviews of cheap glass.
 
I'm looking for another piece for my enail and underdog. I have the fc710 and the fc1000. I am really interested in several of the mothership knockoffs. I'm drawn to ones like the klein and the torus. Any recommendations? Also how do the 'egg' style rigs compare to the klein and torus?
 
inspiredtogrow,

pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
I'm looking for another piece for my enail and underdog. I have the fc710 and the fc1000. I am really interested in several of the mothership knockoffs. I'm drawn to ones like the klein and the torus. Any recommendations? Also how do the 'egg' style rigs compare to the klein and torus?
For the enail, I'd recommend a mini straight fab, it's the only cloned MS piece (besides the mini) that was designed for dabs. For the UD, probably any of the larger ones would be fine, I have heard the ball rigs are most popular with MS owners.
Unfortunately for us, they are complicate pieces, and this is where dhgate falls short IMHO. The simple pieces I have gotten, have all been pretty good, the complex ones however, had all had some sort of alignment problem.

My ftk from Steven arrived today.
Get this, it's wet... Like water was inside the packaging. It was well boxed. Labeled glass, and in 3 layers of bubble wrap. Vid/pix today!

Can you tell us more about it? How's the alignment of the parts, and appearance in general? Any weak areas?
 
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Monsoon

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I've been using my FC-Cake the last few days as a small e-nail rig. Working pretty good so far.

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mrbonsai420

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galacticdad

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got my juicebox in!

one thing i notice is how much wider the straw is on this piece. also, there is no diffusion design or hammerhead perc at all on the downstem, its just sawed off. because of this, i needed to keep the water level higher. it also needs a dropdown pretty badly. all in all, its neat and its cute and it looks like a giant juicebox, but i'm pretty glad i didn't spend $100 on this piece. this thing chugs like an old beaker bottom i used to hit.
 

YungLeaner

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In regards to branding, the issue with brand names in the product description is not something that FC can likely deal with. We may be a reasonably significant portion of their market, but the fact is that Chinese business is just not regulated by the same rules that we follow, and DHGate itself is pretty much an online knockoff warehouse.

In terms of actual impact, I personally feel as though the "evil" (quoting no one, just a word to use) of DHGate glass is overstated in terms of it affects American glassblowers. Mothership is certainly not hurting in any way from Chinese glass sales. Their pieces have appreciated in value every single year for about half a decade now, and their market (2-3k per piece at a minimum) is so economically divided from dirt-cheap Chinese glass that the traditional issues with knockoffs don't really exist. No one buys Chinese glass to pass it off as Mothership--no one smart, at least, and anyone with the funds and know-how to scoop a Mothership is either not going to consider a Steven FTK, or at least they will recognize without a doubt the difference in between the two, and probably isn't going to be insulted by the existence of the fake FTK.

Mobius is arguably a different case, because they already attempt to offer somewhat affordable American glass and the DHGate knockoffs are very, very good. The logo-blasted DH Mobius' wouldn't be mistaken for the real thing by someone who knows glass, but for someone who didn't they could easily be taken for a ride.

But ROOR?????? Walk into any LHS in America and they will have anywhere from 5 to a 100 pieces with fake ROOR branding. Not to mention that ROOR themselves has sold their branding to blowers not based at all with the original company, so it is literally impossible to distinguish one from the other.

And then you get to the point where we're saying that you can't post a picture of a knockoff Matrix perc bubbler branded with ROOR lettering...I don't know the answer, and I understand the problem. But the wholesale demolition of this thread will do more harm than good, because as it stands it is actually IMO a valuable resource for those who wish to make sure they know what they are buying, and whether or not it is real. The Custom Glass thread is much iffier in terms of the rules. Not that I want that one disbanded either :(
 
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galacticdad

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for those of you who are into cup rigs:

what do you have that you like? i want to order steven's dabuccino with my straight fab and most likely will. poking around on his youtube i saw a coffee fab cup -- wonder when that's gonna come around? function looks pretty neat.
 
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MGG

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for those of you who are into cup rigs:

what do you have that you like? i want to order steven's dabuccino with my straight fab and most likely will. poking around on his youtube i saw a coffee fab cup -- wonder when that's gonna come around? function looks pretty neat.

He got a tasty little sip of water in that video :rofl:
 
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CameraNerd

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Stevenlmz79 FTK x VAPE x Combustion x Canola Oil Test

Pros:
-very heavy... maybe 2x CCG fab egg
-i dig the compact can, lets me take huge hits

Cons:
- Shipping time was pretty fuck you (fake tracking number, bullshit excuses)
- torus doesnt function
-perc slits are very un evenly cut
-perc doesnt fire evenly
-the bong showed up wet, like maybe i got the actual water test pipe, or maybe they tested for function. mine doesnt function so maybe these are factory seconds?

In summary, avoid..they are going to have to work on this to get the function correct. at $40 i would have kept it, but i think ill sell this one to a friend
 
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mrbonsai420

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Stevenlmz79 FTK x VAPE x Combustion x Canola Oil Test
(if you can only see this in 360p, it means that youtube hasnt completed rendering it. the final should be 1080p)


great video! unfortunately it looks like the perc has 1 slit bigger than the rest and the vapor/smoke it taking the path of least resistance = 1 slit perc :( And with the vape I saw little recycling action and no vortex really? But I do like it and if you get a good perc it looks like a fun piece to own. I need a good recycler. Which is currently the best for vaping or dabbing?
 
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Deciding between these today... Hmmmm decisions...

Mod note: links removed

I really want something that recycles/incycles.

Edit: Links removed were of several of stevens klein pieces
 
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inspiredtogrow,
Thank you man that does help me narrow it down. Which one of the two left is the mini torus lol they both say 9.5. The only diffference between the two that are left is one has that extra recyler?
 
inspiredtogrow,
The D-cycler gets great reviews, and is CCG.

I don't really like how that looks compared to the others but WOW that function video really got me. Great recommendation, thanks. This might be the one.. or maybe i'll get 2 since this one is cheaper ;) How is ccg compared to steven? I've only ordered off steven before.
 
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weenstoned

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@CameraNerd have you tried other water levels? On a regular torus you typically need to be filled up to the bottom of the funnel portion so I think that the level in your video is far too low.
 
weenstoned,

pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
I don't really like how that looks compared to the others but WOW that function video really got me. Great recommendation, thanks. This might be the one.. or maybe i'll get 2 since this one is cheaper ;) How is ccg compared to steven? I've only ordered off steven before.
I've never tried CCG, but the feedback has been good, definitely better than Steven's :\.
I like the looks of the Othership stuff too, just got the mini straight fab in 14mm, which I really like for oil. The perc is a little off, so I got a partial refund, but I would rather get a good piece the first time. The Otherships stuff is a bit more complicated, it seems like this introduces more margin for error. One might think, because we are paying more, that the extra fee would cover the extra work, but that does not seem to be the case.

Just noticed this one, it looks pretty good too. Looks like it has too much percolation for oil though.
 
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ataxian

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Stevenlmz79 FTK x VAPE x Combustion x Canola Oil Test

Pros:
-very heavy... maybe 2x CCG fab egg
-i dig the compact can, lets me take huge hits

Cons:
- Shipping time was pretty fuck you (fake tracking number, bullshit excuses)
- torus doesnt function
-perc slits are very un evenly cut
-perc doesnt fire evenly
-the bong showed up wet, like maybe i got the actual water test pipe, or maybe they tested for function. mine doesnt function so maybe these are factory seconds?

In summary, avoid..they are going to have to work on this to get the function correct. at $40 i would have kept it, but i think ill sell this one to a friend
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This FC MOUTHPIECE was $40 including shipping.
It works.

If you have a LEMON don't sell it to a friend?
Give it to someone!
 

CameraNerd

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weenstoned said:
@CameraNerd have you tried other water levels?
I tried several water levels, including as much as it will take and not get water in your mouth. Its very chuggy at that level. Ill post another vid with higher water level if it will save others some cash.

as it is, the Steven FTK is (in my opinion) inferior to the fab egg. The poorly made perc is pretty sloppy.

the canola oil test at the end was kinda interesting. is it possible to add an inferior glass perc to a boro tube? the tube seems to disappear, but the perc is still visible. The fab egg is totally visible in canola, which im assuming means it is not boro.

i also found a lot of tiny cracks inside the tube at the botttom of the torus of the new fc-ftk. i think this one may need to take a liquinox bath and go back to china.
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I tried several water levels, including as much as it will take and not get water in your mouth. Its very chuggy at that level. Ill post another vid with higher water level if it will save others some cash.

as it is, the Steven FTK is (in my opinion) inferior to the fab egg. The poorly made perc is pretty sloppy.

the canola oil test at the end was kinda interesting. is it possible to add an inferior glass perc to a boro tube? the tube seems to disappear, but the perc is still visible.
I know I won't spell it right however someone like you should buy from aqualabs.com inplace of dhgate.com
 
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