Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

b0

Cloudy...
Hi everybody,

just a quick update:
No need for further testing here -> my unit is definitely broke! :cuss:
It seems that I can reproduce it by just dialing 1-2 o'clock - that seems to be "hot" enough for producing an disgusting / plastic-like taste.

I cannot believe it!!!!

It is really a shame .. i invested that much money and get a crappy unit. Would have expected that from vaporizers for like 20€ or so, but not from an US company with such high-priced devices.
I mean what is worse than a vaporizer releasing some (maybe) toxic vapors ?!?! At <200° C....

And who can tell me if these 3 draws i took don't affect my health?! Unbelievable, really!


:(:(:(

Relax buddy, shit happens everywhere. Look at those expensive iphones, there're always some bad apples between them but people still loves them!

Open a ticket with them, you can be sure they will take care of you.
 
I get what you are saying and I will stop complaining from now on.
But sorry.. for me that's not a valid comparison you make. Sure, iPhones are expensive, too, and sometimes you get a faulty device, ok.
But most the time the cellphone won't turn on. or won't connect to the wifi or what so ever. But it is not doing the exact opposite as it is supposed to. (in my case here: I bought the vaporizer to be able to medicate safely and healthy, and right now i am a LITTLE concerned that i might get some issues with my health because of toxic vapors i received from my new Evo.
And as far as VapeXHale doesn't deliver directly to Europe, i have to send it back to the vendor in the NL and get it "checked" and examined. Who now what happens next.
So, again, sorry for my rant..But..Maybe one can understand....
 

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
For some reason it states that it can only use a Quartz nail - would performance differ compared to the normal glass one? In my experience dabbing I've noticed that Quartz nails seem to take longer to heat up.

Thanks!

I don't have the Swagger Tree, but IMO they look pretty slick. I have an Evolver Tree and it was not my first choice when ordering the EVO (I wanted a Swagger Hydrabomb) but they were out of my first choice and I am more than happy with the Evolver Tree. It's not quite the same as the Swagger, but it looks pretty similar. The QC issues people seem to bring up regarding glass also, or at least it seems to, skew towards the "newer" style glass, so I'd pull the trigger!

The only reason it says that it can only use the quartz nail, is that the lip on the top of the glass nail is too tall for the older style hydratubes. It wouldn't make a seal, my tube is same way, the top of the glass nail ends up resting against the top of the guard on the hydratube, and its not a good seal period. It kind of works, but a world of difference when you get a nail that actually fits.

@Drew_de_Verdamper , I sympathize with you, I had never heard of anyone experiencing that problem, but it does sound similar to what was said the page prior (wire heated up from bamboo?). I never get any electronic taste or plastic/weird taste. But, VXH despite users having problems, they have never been less than helpful from my perspective. When I had issues they took care of me right quick and proper, and that seems to be the case with others too. It does suck, but hey shit happens right?

But, I do have to comment as I see you've mentioned this twice, and while it's not my place to comment on how health conscious other users should be (nor do I know your health), I would not worry or have any sort of fear about what I potentially may have inhaled on the two or three hits that tasted off. Don't know your history with herb, but I reckon you didn't start with vaporizers, so there were countless times you actively choose to inhale bad things. Now, you're obviously making the active choice not to inhale bad things by choosing vaporizers, but unless you have some sort of highly critical disease, this seems like a concern that isn't too valid (or maybe not worth worrying about is better term, it is valid).

Just my .02/perspective. I beta tested some chinese vaporizer a month back, the airpath wasn't isolated at all and when I tried it, all I could taste was electronics/warm battery. I obviously stopped using it immediately, and chose never to put herb back in it, but I am also not worried that I will get some sort of illness from the 5-10 pulls I took through this thing inhaling battery off gases and w/e is coming off the electronics (and boy did it taste awful!). All I'm trying to say is, try not to lose too much sleep because while it certainly isn't healthy, in the grand scheme of things I doubt it was all that harmful (in the long run).
 

LegaliseIt

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I get what you are saying and I will stop complaining from now on.
But sorry.. for me that's not a valid comparison you make. Sure, iPhones are expensive, too, and sometimes you get a faulty device, ok.
But most the time the cellphone won't turn on. or won't connect to the wifi or what so ever. But it is not doing the exact opposite as it is supposed to. (in my case here: I bought the vaporizer to be able to medicate safely and healthy, and right now i am a LITTLE concerned that i might get some issues with my health because of toxic vapors i received from my new Evo.
And as far as VapeXHale doesn't deliver directly to Europe, i have to send it back to the vendor in the NL and get it "checked" and examined. Who now what happens next.
So, again, sorry for my rant..But..Maybe one can understand....

I'm totally with you on this one. If a company decides to charge a premium price for a device with such a simplistic design and engineering they should be prepared to offer a premium customer service too. Some people even call EVO a cadillac of vaporisers. Don't know about Cadillac but I drive Lexus for the past 8 years and all, even minor issues are being dealt by them with no questions asked. And if any flaws are detected they immediately start recalls. The same applies to Apple. My wife's Macbook (6 years old) power supply got busted. Apple store in London exchanged it immediately. I cut my Macbook's cord with office chair wheel a few weeks ago, took it to the same store and got brand new one with no questions asked. Everyone understands that there are always some bad apples, but how the company deals with then is another question.

I just wander what is meant by "checked by vendor"? "Checked by manufacturer" would make sense, but vendor...? Are they going to vape from it or what? I would not be too happy about it.
 

RobDaBomb

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@Drew_de_Verdamper, for what it's worth I'm probably one of the most paranoid stoners when it comes to inhaling off gasses or other potential unwanted things. I have the worst luck with it. Silicosis from an Extreme Q tube, inhaled off cracked ceramic heating elements, used old and dirty dab nails, inhaled strong tasting metallic and plastic off gasses from crappy vapes, and thats not to mention the years of smoking pesticides/insecticides in street weed, using shotty homemade pieces, trying synthetic weed for a year, and so on.

Honestly I'm so paranoid nowadays that if I feel a weird sensation in my chest after coughing from a hit, then I instantly start to think about all the possible things that I could have accidentally inhaled. Hell I even blow in the mouthpiece of every bowl to get dust and other potential inhalants out before hitting them. It's truly a sad and scary life.

All I can say is it's not worth getting worried over. If you feel weird or have chest pain/discomfort that lasts for more than a few days, then maybe it wouldn't hurt going to see a doctor. But from what I've learned these last few years after visiting doctors and doctors - they can't go back in time to prevent you from inhaling what you did, nor can they 'remove it from your lungs'. If it was mold spores you inhaled then that'd be different, but if it was just a material then most likely nothing medically could be done.

Is it worth worrying over something that can't be changed? No. Sure you could regret inhaling from of it, but there's no reason to worry about the few puffs you took. I've inhaled much worse things over the past decade and I'm still breathing fine.
 
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@Drew_de_Verdamper , I sympathize with you, I had never heard of anyone experiencing that problem, but it does sound similar to what was said the page prior (wire heated up from bamboo?). I never get any electronic taste or pl astic/weird taste. But, VXH despite users having problems, they have never been less than helpful from my perspective. When I had issues they took care of me right quick and proper, and that seems to be the case with others too. It does suck, but hey shit happens right?

But, I do have to comment as I see you've mentioned this twice, and while it's not my place to comment on how health conscious other users should be (nor do I know your health), I would not worry or have any sort of fear about what I potentially may have inhaled on the two or three hits that tasted off. Don't know your history with herb, but I reckon you didn't start with vaporizers, so there were countless times you actively choose to inhale bad things. Now, you're obviously making the active choice not to inhale bad things by choosing vaporizers, but unless you have some sort of highly critical disease, this seems like a concern that isn't too valid (or maybe not worth worrying about is better term, it is valid).

Just my .02/perspective. I beta tested some chinese vaporizer a month back, the airpath wasn't isolated at all and when I tried it, all I could taste was electronics/warm battery. I obviously stopped using it immediately, and chose never to put herb back in it, but I am also not worried that I will get some sort of illness from the 5-10 pulls I took through this thing inhaling battery off gases and w/e is coming off the electronics (and boy did it taste awful!). All I'm trying to say is, try not to lose too much sleep because while it certainly isn't healthy, in the grand scheme of things I doubt it was all that harmful (in the long run).

Thanks for the heads up, HellsWindStaff.
I suspect that the issue i have could be similar to the one biohacker had, yes. Although this seems to be a really rare issue, at least that's my impression right now.
I cannot make any testify on how good or bad VXH's customer service is. I have to trust this vendor where i bought it from. So it wasn't my intention to do some baiting operate on VXH, but i must admit that i am still a little shocked. I hope that you are right regarding inhaling things and their possible long-time consequences. I do not feel sick now though.

So, of course, i know that "shit can happen" but when it comes to devices from which one inhales i am still not quite happy about this formulation ;)



I'm totally with you on this one. If a company decides to charge a premium price for a device with such a simplistic design and engineering they should be prepared to offer a premium customer service too. Some people even call EVO a cadillac of vaporisers. Don't know about Cadillac but I drive Lexus for the past 8 years and all, even minor issues are being dealt by them with no questions asked. And if any flaws are detected they immediately start recalls. The same applies to Apple. My wife's Macbook (6 years old) power supply got busted. Apple store in London exchanged it immediately. I cut my Macbook's cord with office chair wheel a few weeks ago, took it to the same store and got brand new one with no questions asked. Everyone understands that there are always some bad apples, but how the company deals with then is another question.

I just wander what is meant by "checked by vendor"? "Checked by manufacturer" would make sense, but vendor...? Are they going to vape from it or what? I would not be too happy about it.


Hi LegaliseIt!
The thing is. I have to admit that, despite of all this shit, i DO think that the Evo CAN perform like no other vaporizer ( if it is running flawlessly).
The problem with my unit seems to only occur with higher temperatures.
Meaning that i still want a functional Evo as my number one desktop vaporizer ;)

But you are right... didn't really think about that like this. I guess they will :huh:
At least they are located in Amsterdam so they probably vape some nice herb...... :razz:

But yeah.. since i could smell this ugly odor everywhere in my house, i guess they will smell this too real quick and will exchange the unit for me ;)
 
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LegaliseIt

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The thing is. I have to admit that, despite of all this shit, i DO think that the Evo CAN perform like no other vaporizer ( if it is running flawlessly).

EVO is my first desktop vaporiser so I'm not qualified to make big statement on performance but I have no complaints on this side either. I like neat and tidy ELB system, like smooth hits it produces and low maintenance factor. But knowing that there are only few components in EVO which may go wrong and they tend to reveal the problems early (after 10-20 sessions) it would be nice is company adopt some easy swap system for faulty units.
 

RobDaBomb

Member
Thanks everybody for your input! I think I can pull the trigger safely now after hearing all the positive Swagger talk.

Although there's one more issue that's been stuck in the back of my mind about the Evo: overuse/overheating. I've read that, apparently, there is an auto-off feature to prevent overheating - although this isn't something I can find a lot of info about. I love everything about the Cloud on paper... but I know with my vaping/smoking habits that I'm the kinda person who'd prefer to turn the Cloud on once and then use it at my own pace over the course of an hour or two before turning it back off. Would this be a problem? (For example: I may take a half dozen draws over the course of a couple minutes, then let it sit for 10-20 minutes before taking my next few. Or just sporadically take a few puffs once every 5-10 minutes...)

I saw a reddit user's message about how they switched over to the E-Nano from their Evo because they could "leave it on basically all day" -- now I don't need to leave the Evo on all day, but I definitely don't want to be waiting for it to heat up every half hour or so just to turn it back off after my few quick hits.

I'm scared that the device could become too hot from being left on and either damage the unit (maybe even the surface its placed on) or cause hazardous off gassing. What do you Cloud users think about usage times? Should it only be kept on for X amount minutes before being turned off to cool down? When not hitting it should the temp dial be turned down? Etc...
 

tylerj55

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Loving my Evo however I was using a bit too much concentrate at first I believe and have reclaim coming out of the bottom hole. How would you recommend cleaning this out while making sure the claim is still usable?
 
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HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
I don't know how you'd clean out the bottom of the bamboo and keep the reclaim usable, I figure just ISO and then evaping it? I usually just use a qtip with ISO to swab out the bottom of the bamboo, I'm with you a few weeks back my EVO was filthy down there when I was using concentrates a lot @tylerj55 , just threw the q tip away

@RobDaBomb you have a few options. You can get a timer to essentially trip the switch at 45-50 minutes so you're always under the hour time limit, or you can manually get up and toggle the switch to reset the autoshut off. I turned my EVO on a half hour ago. It will probably be on til at least 10-11. I'm walking past it enough that I just toggle the switch whenever I get up. Still forget sometime but its not a big deal. I find the EVO works best after like 10 minutes of presoaking, which would be annoying every few bowls or so, so yea I tend to just leave it on. I've done this at high temps to dab all day, and at lower temps for vaping.
 

tylerj55

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Ok thanks! I was just worried about pouring ISO in there, but I should probably just swab it and take the loss. I just really love making edibles from my reclaim and hate to waste it haha.
 
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@Drew_de_Verdamper, for what it's worth I'm probably one of the most paranoid stoners when it comes to inhaling off gasses or other potential unwanted things. I have the worst luck with it. Silicosis from an Extreme Q tube, inhaled off cracked ceramic heating elements, used old and dirty dab nails, inhaled strong tasting metallic and plastic off gasses from crappy vapes, and thats not to mention the years of smoking pesticides/insecticides in street weed, using shotty homemade pieces, trying synthetic weed for a year, and so on.

Honestly I'm so paranoid nowadays that if I feel a weird sensation in my chest after coughing from a hit, then I instantly start to think about all the possible things that I could have accidentally inhaled. Hell I even blow in the mouthpiece of every bowl to get dust and other potential inhalants out before hitting them. It's truly a sad and scary life.

All I can say is it's not worth getting worried over. If you feel weird or have chest pain/discomfort that lasts for more than a few days, then maybe it wouldn't hurt going to see a doctor. But from what I've learned these last few years after visiting doctors and doctors - they can't go back in time to prevent you from inhaling what you did, nor can they 'remove it from your lungs'. If it was mold spores you inhaled then that'd be different, but if it was just a material then most likely nothing medically could be done.

Is it worth worrying over something that can't be changed? No. Sure you could regret inhaling from of it, but there's no reason to worry about the few puffs you took. I've inhaled much worse things over the past decade and I'm still breathing fine.

Thanks for this, Rob!
Your behavior what you are describing when it comes to vaping is something i can identify with to 100% :p

EVO odour was a hot topic back in the spring of 2014. SM55 was talking about drilling holes in the bottom to help vent, and also experienced it inverted and not when using a HT.

thanks biohacker, going to look at spring 2014 within this topic, maybe i can find some information there.
 

Florence

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Anyone remember what the holiday bundle came with? How many screens, nails, etc. Or any screenshots of the deal advertising?

Side note: bout 20 days after ordering, I got an email saying it shipped and gave me a shipping number. It only says "turbine starter kit" as shipped item, thus why I'm asking my Q, I kinda know whats all supposed to be in there, but want some more confirmation since I guess I didn't screenshot the ad like normal. Just so I know if I'm missing anything from the holiday bundle when it arrives.

Correct me if I'm wrong, it should be the Evo, HT, nail, 2 bowls, and the sleeve. Was there anything else?
 
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@RobDaBomb you have a few options. You can get a timer to essentially trip the switch at 45-50 minutes so you're always under the hour time limit, or you can manually get up and toggle the switch to reset the autoshut off. I turned my EVO on a half hour ago. It will probably be on til at least 10-11.

Wait, are you saying you normally keep your Evo on and left at vaping/dabbing temp for hours and hours throughout the day (follow up question: from videos it appears that people can leave their easy loaded bowls inside the Evo while they're not using it - do you leave your bowls in it throughout the day?)?? Also has this caused any visible physical wear or damaged to the vape? If that's the case and the thing still works as new, then that's impressive as hell!! I need something that strong for my daily driver.

Correct me if I'm wrong, it should be the Evo, HT, nail, 2 bowls, and the sleeve. Was there anything else?

I'm not entirely positive about the holiday deal, but I can tell you everything you described here is what's supposed to be included in any of the Evo 'Starter Kits'. So there's a good chance the holiday bundle was really just a discounted average kit??
 

b0

Cloudy...
Wait, are you saying you normally keep your Evo on and left at vaping/dabbing temp for hours and hours throughout the day (follow up question: from videos it appears that people can leave their easy loaded bowls inside the Evo while they're not using it - do you leave your bowls in it throughout the day?)?? Also has this caused any visible physical wear or damaged to the vape? If that's the case and the thing still works as new, then that's impressive as hell!! I need something that strong for my daily driver.

I use both, my OG VXL and my EVO like that everyday and never had a problem.
 

Stu

Maconheiro
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Wait, are you saying you normally keep your Evo on and left at vaping/dabbing temp for hours and hours throughout the day (follow up question: from videos it appears that people can leave their easy loaded bowls inside the Evo while they're not using it - do you leave your bowls in it throughout the day?)?? Also has this caused any visible physical wear or damaged to the vape? If that's the case and the thing still works as new, then that's impressive as hell!! I need something that strong for my daily driver.
I leave my Evo on for 12+ hours regularly. I use a WeMo to toggle the power every 30 minutes so I can leave the Evo on from dawn 'til dusk and It has not had any negative impact on it at all.:2c:

I also leave ELBs in the Evo for hours at a time. :nod:

:peace:
 

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
Wait, are you saying you normally keep your Evo on and left at vaping/dabbing temp for hours and hours throughout the day (follow up question: from videos it appears that people can leave their easy loaded bowls inside the Evo while they're not using it - do you leave your bowls in it throughout the day?)?? Also has this caused any visible physical wear or damaged to the vape? If that's the case and the thing still works as new, then that's impressive as hell!! I need something that strong for my daily driver.



I'm not entirely positive about the holiday deal, but I can tell you everything you described here is what's supposed to be included in any of the Evo 'Starter Kits'. So there's a good chance the holiday bundle was really just a discounted average kit??

Don't notice any decrease in performance.....I'm going to hit it right now! It's still on from earlier :p

Didn't ever think though to just leave the ELB in and space my hits out, I tend to load a bunch of ELBs and then crush them throughout the night, but that can get a bit heavy handed sometime depending on how much I load them :zzz:
 
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@RobDaBomb I took one for the team. The beauty of the EVO is the versatility, you can get some light lower temp tasty clouds, or if you're that guy who wants that big one hitter killer, the EVO can do that in spades!! This is an ELB basically fully packed up, I have the temp up pretty high. I got two very very half assed hits after this :) still am quite high from it!

(Also, of course as soon as I start hitting it and shooting my roommate starts talking, so the video is muted but my unit doesn't whistle really with the sleeve on, does sometimes, enjoy the tunes)


Here is the temp I had it at, this is seriously quite high and I only did it to show you just how versatile the EVO is. My EVO is actually notched one degree to the left (the standard "notch" is at 12 o clock, mine is at 11) so this is even hotter than average unit I'd say.

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Bed soon! lol
 

eyewhites

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So this im pretty sure is my next purchase.

I have the solo, i want something better. Something quicker.
what is the avg session length. I like the solo a lot but it takes 15 mins to use if you fill it up all the way, how long for the evo?
 
eyewhites,

stickstones

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So this im pretty sure is my next purchase.

I have the solo, i want something better. Something quicker.
what is the avg session length. I like the solo a lot but it takes 15 mins to use if you fill it up all the way, how long for the evo?

I can get in and out of a session in five to eight minutes from start to finish. I turn it on high and start prepping my herbs. By the time that's done it is usually up to temp. Then I turn it down to about 2 o'clock and wait for it to stabilize. After that I drop the ELB in and go to town until the session is done.

Check the code in my signature to save 10% off their site. The only time is doesn't work is if you are getting a discounted bundle...but even then give it a shot and see if it helps.
 

Naes

Member
Hello, trying to find out how old my actual EVO unit is, I'm assuming the numbers on the bottom are sequential. Basically I'm curious what number the newer evos are at. If anyone had recently received a new Evo, could you let me know what the number is on the bottom please? Should be something like "EVO12345". Thanks!
 

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
Hello, trying to find out how old my actual EVO unit is, I'm assuming the numbers on the bottom are sequential. Basically I'm curious what number the newer evos are at. If anyone had recently received a new Evo, could you let me know what the number is on the bottom please? Should be something like "EVO12345". Thanks!

Got mine in October and it is EVO12xxx
 
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Florence

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Aw dang. FedEx updated their tracking info, guess its set to arrive the weekend I'm out of town. Since its signature required, I think they will attempt delivery a few times then return it to the sender, is that right? Sigh, I'd have had paid for faster shipping if I knew when they where actually gunna send it out. Hopefully they are willing to send it back to me expedited when they get it back so this doesn't add another 2-3 weeks to my order time.... Already over 20 days... Anyone know how much expedited even is with them? Don't recall having a choice during checkout.
 
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