Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless
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I've been using a set of @Joel W. Plates for a couple months now and here's my review.
I've used his plates for flower and hash rosin
Good points:
*great customer service
He will keep you updated on the manufacturing and shipping of your plates.
*can't beat his price
*plates are very versatile
I've used them with great results on an arbor press and an hydralic press.
*built tough
I've prob put 20-25 tons on it no sign of failure or damage.
*the heat sourace aka soldering irons he choose do have temp controls.
*small surface area on plates so smaller presses can still be efficient
*great design with insulators
Negatives
*soldering irons
Take time to heat up
One of my soldering irons has soldered itself inside it's bore. No big deal I'll eventually get it out an order a new iron for 20$
*small/round surface area
I press with bags often so a square that matches the bag shape may be more adequate, Small surface area means more presses obviously .
Overall I'd definitely buy again.
Maybe @Joel W. Could come up with like 2.5 or 2 inch square plates would be my only request. And Maybe you already have them and I just didn't ask for them lol
I've used his plates for flower and hash rosin
Good points:
*great customer service
He will keep you updated on the manufacturing and shipping of your plates.
*can't beat his price
*plates are very versatile
I've used them with great results on an arbor press and an hydralic press.
*built tough
I've prob put 20-25 tons on it no sign of failure or damage.
*the heat sourace aka soldering irons he choose do have temp controls.
*small surface area on plates so smaller presses can still be efficient
*great design with insulators
Negatives
*soldering irons
Take time to heat up
One of my soldering irons has soldered itself inside it's bore. No big deal I'll eventually get it out an order a new iron for 20$
*small/round surface area
I press with bags often so a square that matches the bag shape may be more adequate, Small surface area means more presses obviously .
Overall I'd definitely buy again.
Maybe @Joel W. Could come up with like 2.5 or 2 inch square plates would be my only request. And Maybe you already have them and I just didn't ask for them lol
Doobii
Member
Do you do large amount of presses at one sitting? Like putting in work haha? Wondering if prolonged use was cause for soldering iron getting stuck.
How are you liking bags for flower presses?
I just got a kief press from the local head shop and my sweet baby Jesus...the difference from smushing together flower until I felt it uniform to forming prestine pucks is mind blowing. Even pressed a few shake pucks, only got a small amount of contaminate(easy enough to get out).
Yeah it's been on for hours at time pressing hundreds of times. The extended heat could have been the reason. It's not really a big deal . I'll just order another one and get the existing one out with a little brute force.
I use bag because the flowers I use are less then ideal so I can process several flower grams at a time easily in a bag. .
Doobii
Member
Might wanna try torching it hot then submerging in bucket of cold water lol of course brute force usually works too.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the review. 20-25 tons? I'd guess that it crushed the block/ bore on that iron..
I do sell 2" square blocks also. Just not many.
Edit:
25tons = 50,000 pounds of force
50,000 divided by 3.14 = 15,923 pounds per sq inch.
These jaws are rated for 10 tons max. (6,369 psi, twice the needed pressure really)
I will take a guess that the iron is stuck in the bottom jaw? I'd guess its not flat anymore either.
Edit2: 20 minutes is the warm up time as stated in my thread. Supplimental torch heat can get you to temp in 5 mins, FYI.
Edit3: let me know if you can extract the soldering iron or not. Please check your blocks with a straight edge and or try to grab a single sliver of parchment paper all around the jaws edges and we will go from there.
We should continue this in my thread though.
Final edit: For anyone looking for an easy Diy solution to bigger plates, check out Le lev Elsk's recent work in the advanced rosin tech on Fb.
He is using 2) 4" pieces of 2" square steel tubing ( sch 80 I think) so he has a 4" x 2.5" squish area and it has hair iron heaters on the inside of the tube. It Works.
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Thanks for the review. 20-25 tons? I'd guess that it crushed the block/ bore on that iron..
I do sell 2" square blocks also. Just not many.
Edit:
25tons = 50,000 pounds of force
50,000 divided by 3.14 = 15,923 pounds per sq inch.
These jaws are rated for 10 tons max. (6,369 psi, twice the needed pressure really)
I will take a guess that the iron is stuck in the bottom jaw? I'd guess its not flat anymore either.
Edit2: 20 minutes is the warm up time as stated in my thread. Supplimental torch heat can get you to temp in 5 mins, FYI.
Edit3: let me know if you can extract the soldering iron or not. Please check your blocks with a straight edge and or try to grab a single sliver of parchment paper all around the jaws edges and we will go from there.
We should continue this in my thread though.
Final edit: For anyone looking for an easy Diy solution to bigger plates, check out Le lev Elsk's recent work in the advanced rosin tech on Fb.
He is using 2) 4" pieces of 2" square steel tubing ( sch 80 I think) so he has a 4" x 2.5" squish area and it has hair iron heaters on the inside of the tube. It Works.
The plate still works great .not worried about the stuck iron at all.
Maybe it's an excuse to get your 2 inch square plates tho hahah
I'll check out that thread of advanced tech thanks
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I will make you a deal on the square blocks and send a replacement for the crushed block if you let me know what block.
Thanks for testing these with extreme pressures. Did you notice improved yields at those pressures?
I have only pressed with bags once.
"Man's got to know his limitations"
Thanks for testing these with extreme pressures. Did you notice improved yields at those pressures?
I have only pressed with bags once.
"Man's got to know his limitations"
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Doobii
Member
If only these didn't run so hot
http://m.bonanza.com/listings/penma...=&goog_pla=1&gclid=CJGkifGOl8oCFYdcfgoddcILnA
http://m.bonanza.com/listings/penma...=&goog_pla=1&gclid=CJGkifGOl8oCFYdcfgoddcILnA
tranquilidy
New Member
Sorry for the regurgitated topic, I know this has got to be covered a dozen times already but I can't seem to find any info on the best flat iron / hair straightener (under $50 hopefully) for rosin tech. I've tried the forum search for this - and the results all point to somewhere within this thread herein...somewhere...
Which brands / models are holding up best under high pressure?
Which have the lowest temps / best controls etc.?
There must be a "Flat Iron Roundup" review of the best somewhere? If not, whats your vote?
Peace,
tranquilidy
Which brands / models are holding up best under high pressure?
Which have the lowest temps / best controls etc.?
There must be a "Flat Iron Roundup" review of the best somewhere? If not, whats your vote?
Peace,
tranquilidy
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
Fucking ouch 
$1,100 for a pneumatic press that only does 1,000 lbs (44 psi if using the entire 4.75"x4.75" surface area). I think it will be another big fail if trying to use it for flowers. Will probably work fine for pressing hash, but $1k for a hash only press seems a bit ridiculous IMO.
http://www.d-nail.com/frontpage/pneumatic-press-5-5?mc_cid=bff9eeb2ae&mc_eid=61be6ee29b
$1,100 for a pneumatic press that only does 1,000 lbs (44 psi if using the entire 4.75"x4.75" surface area). I think it will be another big fail if trying to use it for flowers. Will probably work fine for pressing hash, but $1k for a hash only press seems a bit ridiculous IMO.
http://www.d-nail.com/frontpage/pneumatic-press-5-5?mc_cid=bff9eeb2ae&mc_eid=61be6ee29b
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
It'll work for small buds too, like .75 (about what I usually squish at a time). However, definitely is not for those who want to squish lots of bud still! Will be much better for both purposes than the first beta press though. I would only recommend that those with plenty of cash, wanting to squish hash and small personal amounts of flower (squish as you dab style) with something more or less ready made (except compressor of course) use this particular press. Pressure regulator is nice and temp control will work a treat! Just really could have used 10 x more pressure and the same machine would be squishing huge amounts of nug at once!Fucking ouch
$1,100 for a pneumatic press that only does 1,000 lbs (44 psi if using the entire 4.75"x4.75" surface area). I think it will be another big fail if trying to use it for flowers. Will probably work fine for pressing hash, but $1k for a hash only press seems a bit ridiculous IMO.
http://www.d-nail.com/frontpage/pneumatic-press-5-5?mc_cid=bff9eeb2ae&mc_eid=61be6ee29b
I really hope that my D-nail friends can find something ideal for those who want to squish more flowers (which is probably most rosin people really) on the third attempt though! The pricepoint is not overboard for what the product is, hell best value vacs sell a more underpowered, less feature laden pneumatic press for more $ IIRC. The problem is that the quality of these two beta presses is not the be all-end all top of the line stuff that we are used to from d-nail on the dabbing side of things. It is more entry-level-get-your-foot-in-the-door-to-rosin-tek-better-than-a-straightener-and-clamp quality at a price beyond what people who need that performance might want to spend.
Of course, these are beta products and should not be expected to be an all in one high quality retail solution (I haven't seen one for personal use amounts crop up yet - oh how we yearn for one!).
I do think we are a ways off from seeing anybody producing an end-user ready, robust, no tweaking/assembly required squish rig with adjustable pressure capacity to allow for up to 1500-2000 psi on a 5 x 5 plate and good accurate heat control, compensation and stability across the plates will be available. A setup like I describe that can squish solid personal amounts of flower (like grab your ounce, squish it, dab for the next month type of thing) would be an ideal retail solution that we could call finished, polished and recommendable. Noone to my knowledge has made such a thing yet... but we can dream!
In the meantime, anyone who is even remotely handy with tools should get a vise or hydraulic press, get some plates from my man @Joel W. and not sweat the lack of availability of more polished options for now as they squish happily
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
I'm messing around with Pnumaetic press and it's almost effortless making a gram of rosin in a few minutes. .85g from 3.7g"of flower. Pressing 4grams at a time is real nice. Still dialing in tech though.
randomtoker
Well-Known Member
Nice yield!
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Here's the second squish results from what was a very low yielding squish session - one of my lowest yet! Got .53g back from 5g of flower. 2 squishes per flower at 200f, tried third squishes and maybe got .05 from them but the flower was so dried out, flaked apart and devoid of resin that I am confident there is nothing else to get out of them.
Still, the results are delicious! I might try squish another random 5g from the same batch, as I may have just squished some of the less resin coated nugs this time. These nugs have been thoroughly dried out then stored in mason jars with 62% boveda packs.
EDIT: Updated to reflect an extra squish that I forgot to collect and weigh up lol
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Doobii
Member
Here's the second squish results from what was a very low yielding squish session - one of my lowest yet! Got .53g back from 5g of flower. 2 squishes per flower at 200f, tried third squishes and maybe got .05 from them but the flower was so dried out, flaked apart and devoid of resin that I am confident there is nothing else to get out of them.
Still, the results are delicious! I might try squish another random 5g from the same batch, as I may have just squished some of the less resin coated nugs this time. These nugs have been thoroughly dried out then stored in mason jars with 62% boveda packs.
EDIT: Updated to reflect an extra squish that I forgot to collect and weigh up lol
how much were you pressing for each sesh if you dont mind me asking?
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
1g x 5 in a 2" diameter round plate in a 1 ton vise squish rig. The buds really are bone dry, pale, soft and flakey now there is seriously not any resin left anywhere in them.
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herbivore21
Well-Known Member
On the other hand, here's the first squish results from before
So I have some DMT the strain. To be honest don't know if its copying the other acronym or if it stands for something else but any ways. I do the same amount as @herbivore21 and near same setup. When I squish this DMT it expands like no other strain I have ever seen 1g comes spilling out and around the plate making a horrible mess of the herb n rosin. Any one have strains that expanded like crazy? How did you prevent it. This herb was really stick and not dry at all blew two small holes in my screens when I tried that route...
Honeyconsumer
Member
So as far as yields go... If I get a t shirt press & some micron screens what kind of yield am I looking at?
Doobii
Member
Here's a new parchment technique I've been trying out, really squirter from this purple princess I got the hookup on. Helped but like you said, leaked out a bit still @iDRINKBLEACH