Multi-brand Xmax V2 Vaporizer (also Atmos Astra)

gearflux

New Member
Thanks a lot @CarbonFiberGuy for your answer.

- How can I know if it is Full Melt Hash ? And if it's NOT, should I use also in that metal cup? Because it's not always so top quality hash, so If I have a medium quality, it's ok to use?

- Just to finish, how's the best way to clean the mouthpiece ?

By the way, my feedback for XMAX V2 Pro is really positive as I am a person who left the roll joints with a bit of tobacco, and a tobacco user on weekends, since one month ago. I'm getting used to it very fast and enjoying a lot.

Thanks once again for your time.
 

seilogeo

Member
Hello everyone
I have two extra batteries one samsung 25r 2500mah and one lg he2 2500mah. Both are much better than the samsung 22f 2200mah which is the stock one. I can get 40minutes of use maximum. I think they are reaching the temperatures a little faster than the stock one and they last more.
I have estimated that this unit works at about 5 amps.
I would lime to buy some more batteries and I am among three differet models which have more capacity but less power in their dischange. So I am between the LG mh1 3200 mah, the LG mj1 3400mah or even the panasonic ncr18650b 3400mah.
Has anyone any experience with any of these batteries?
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Hello everyone
I have two extra batteries one samsung 25r 2500mah and one lg he2 2500mah. Both are much better than the samsung 22f 2200mah which is the stock one. I can get 40minutes of use maximum. I think they are reaching the temperatures a little faster than the stock one and they last more.
I have estimated that this unit works at about 5 amps.
I would lime to buy some more batteries and I am among three differet models which have more capacity but less power in their dischange. So I am between the LG mh1 3200 mah, the LG mj1 3400mah or even the panasonic ncr18650b 3400mah.
Has anyone any experience with any of these batteries?

I'd love to hear how these batteries work out. I've got two X-MAX Pro V2's now (Bought another during the holiday sales) and my only complaint is getting a battery to last more than a day.
 
His_Highness,

phattpiggie

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Been using the V2 for some time now and it's a great value piece of kit. I can't fault it on flavor and vapor production.
It seems to be a bit fickle. Sometimes it's 3 clicks on and as soon as the battery indicator lite goes out I can hit the button and it starts up. Other times I have to wait a little while 5/10 secs.
It doesn't like the cold and if I use it outdoors then it's 3 clicks to on and immediate flashing red lite.
If I take my time and temp. step then the battery life is poor. I have plenty so not a worry but still it's power hungry if I use it this way. I have taken to doing half loads and just going straight to white which has extended the run time a hell of a lot.
If you are in the UK I got it from Ebayer's hghonline1. Their customer service is top notch.
For £35/US$51 you can't go wrong and for an extra £3 you can have a 14mm adapter or glass mouthpiece. I only ever use my 14mm. Haven't even bothered with the silicone one.
Will post some fotos of my half load gubbins. It stops the contents moving around in the oven and also helps slow down the MP screen clogging.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
[QUOTE="phattpiggie, post: 905453, member: 24576"I have taken to doing half loads and just going straight to white which has extended the run time a hell of a lot.
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When you say run time did you mean how long the battery lasts overall? If so....Wonder why the battery lasts longer with half loads and going directly to white?
 

phattpiggie

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
@His_Highness Yes how long it lasts overall. I think it lasts longer because the amount of time it's actually running for is less. I kill a half load in one or two cycles, 5min, instead of the 5 it takes to run thru all the temps. I will do some testing and see how much of a difference there is.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@phattpiggie - Thanks!

My daily driver for the most part is the Arizer Solo but I have to admit the Xmax is running a close second. Love the Xmax clouds, oven size, price and simplicity. The button can be testy but it always comes through for me....that leaves battery life as my pet peeve.
 
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adamster

Well-Known Member
Now mine stopped working. The person in China at vnice says its the heating chamber, needs a new one. Can I get that in the USA? I don't feel like waiting weeks. Is that the top part or bottom.
 
adamster,

seilogeo

Member
Just to answer my own question I made some posts before, about the batteries.
I finally bought 2 samsung 30q 3000mah batteries and I have to say that I highly recommend them.
Better than the samsung 25r I used before and not expensive.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
The Storm is more or less the same as the X-Max. It's an OEM from the same company.

I own both the X-Max (V2 Pro) and the FM 5.0-S. I use the FM5 almost daily whereas the X-Max gets some love only on rare occasions where I need a very stealthy device. I say "very stealthy" because the FM5 looks like a USB hard drive and I put it in my gf's purse when we go to night clubs and concerts and we never had any question about it so far, meaning it's adequately stealthy when not in use. When in use the X-Max draws less attention but still will get you some comments as it looks like a fat cigar compared to your average e-cig.

The X-Max single cell capacity is shit poor, nearly half of the FM5 which has two large cells. The FM5 heats faster because it can output more watts, thanks to its dual cells. The X-Max can be charged via USB on the other hand, it's handy. And you can swap cells if needed, so its capacity might not be important for you.

I dislike the X-Max silicone mouthpiece and much prefer the FM5 glass one, but my X-Max was a pre-release unit and newer versions (including the Storm) sport glass mouthpieces too. So that's a draw. On the other hand and that's the deal breaker for me, the X-Max vapor path is way too short and the output is super hot and harsh. The taste is spoiled pretty fast, whatever the starting temperature, and it becomes super bland in no time. It's unfortunately the case in all the pen-style vapes I've tested so far, there's no room for vapor cooling.

There hasn't been a single occurrence where I said to myself "hmmm this is yummy" when using my X-Max. In fact it has one of the worst taste of all my devices. I don't know if the Herbstick Deluxe is worse or not but both are close, and this says a lot.

The FM5-S taste is not brilliant on the other hand, but that's due to another reason: the low "blue" temperature is way too high to start with, at 195°C. It produces good vapor but it roasts the load too fast and the taste deteriorates. Note that the FM5 single temp is even worse as it's only 210°C!

The X-Max has more temperature settings but the last 3 are barely usable: the vapor gets way too hot and the device shell becomes uncomfortable to hold after 5 minutes of use (a single timer session)

The FM5 has a larger bowl and can do longer sessions, around 20-25 minutes. The X-Max is more 10-15 minutes. Afterwards its body shell gets too hot anyways, it's bad for the battery.

Build quality is good on both units. The button on my X-Max is a pain but this has been supposedly fixed since. That's all I can think of for now. If you have more specific questions, feel free to ask.
 
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phattpiggie

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
@jjl5590 I've tried both and in a blind test I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the Max and the Storm. Can't help you on the 5.0s.
@Ruta has both maybe when he gets time he could thrown his two pennorth.

@KeroZen I improved the flavor and harshness using this set up.
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I have to agree on the battery life, but I have plenty. The glass mouthpiece you can get now improves the 'out the box' flavor. They should never have bothered with the silicon IMO.
 
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Gardenerjeff

Author, Teaming Series of Organic Grow Books
Gee, you folks can be tough! Give a unit a break. This can be had for around 75 dollars (along with a free grinder or other goodies), absolutely won't combust, has replaceable batteries and a few choices of mouthpieces, charges with usb and is stealthy.....Perfect? No. Better than most? Definitely. Comparable to the FM5. Absolutely. Can you go wrong getting it over the FM5. No.


Personally, I find the taste to be great. If you pull fast on these types of vapes, you will get one or two good tasting hits. On the other hand, if you stop treating it like a cigarette and pull slowly so that the air will sit in the chamber a bit longer and "bake" the herb rather than "sear it", you will get many more hits of great flavor as well as good vapor. It is the difference between fanning a fire and increasing the flame and thus heat, or just letting the coals be!

teaming,

gardenerjeff
 

sChris

Account Closed
This thread sold it for me when I was looking for a cheap vape, I use it outside the pub in smoking shelters and nobody looks twice which is great. Really enjoying the experience of using a vape, need to buy a desktop unit next! :D

And I've also bought a d020-d bubbler from dhgate based on another thread on here which I hope arrives soon. It was £15 for the mini bubbler designed for the unit or a proper peice of glass for £25.

I'm planning to use the silicone mouthpiece (for the first time ever) with the 18mm female connector. Tempted to cut and expand the hole
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Could you tell me if you find a better battery the Samsung 25R for the X-max?

I got 2 Samsung 25R and they work very well although I know a guy who are looking for a better autonomy battery?

He told me a Ultrafire 8800mah....I think too much mah is not good for our tools...
 
PPN,

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
@PPN damn man! Anything above 3000mAh is highly suspicious or is not rated for high discharge. Anything ending with "fire" is chinese crap, period and there's no exception.

There are only about 3 manufacturers: LG, Samsung and Sony. Everything else are rewraps of usually B-grade cells made by these big 3.

For peace of mind, only use either protected cells or IMR cells, like the Samsung 25R or the LG HE2 / HE4 etc. You can chose the larger capacity cells from these makers but you will get a lower C rating (less continuous amps) And don't buy them on BangGood and the like, they are full of fakes.

Today the 25R is rated the best (for high discharge applications) by most independant testers, and the LG is really close.
 

Arif_Ahmed

Member
Hello Everyone,
I just got my Xmax yesterday.
And i must say that i m too much happy.
More than expectation.

Can any one please suggest me some backup battery for xmax.I have search a lot but confused.
Please give me some amazon/ebay link of batteries that suited xmax.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Get Samsung 25R IMR cells or LG HE2 or LG HE4... *but* do not buy them on ebay nor amazon or you will very likely get fake ones that could transform your X-Max into a deadly hand grenade. You've been warned and I'm serious here.
 
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