Discontinued Elevape SV

RelaxedNow

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Strange... When was the last time you cleaned your unit? Maybe it's sensor is all dirty and your lid screen clogged up, which results in bad performance where it's almost impossible to get or keep the lights on?

I clean it regularly, and it'd been only a couple of days. However, at your suggestion, I've cleaned it again. I didn't see a bit of gunk on the lens, or on the iso wipe, and the screens are in good shape.

I'm charging it again, and I think I'll go 5 hours. Then maybe I'll try flash/reset with the advanced app. It might be wasted time, but I figure it can't hurt.
 

various127

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Trying to finish my third bowl, and it's dead again. That's a significant decline in performance. Unless someone knows of a fix, I'll contact Joe for his help.

I went through two bowls today and my battery is dead. Well I assume it's dead because when I plug it in it connects, and I can change temp. But doesn't show battery life. The coil is also heating up barely. This is the first time I've used the SV until it ran out. Temps 2, 4 and 8.

Honestly I was sure my vape could get 3 1/2 bowls. It's weird, I'm pretty sure I've gotten to two and a half(before charging). I'll have to run it dry again, but I guess for now it's two bowls max. (The first bowl was dumped out before it was finished too)

And it was in Joe's hands like 3 weeks ago, I remember him saying my vape charges to 90% but that meant I had more battery life.

Edit: Well actually I let someone from work use it and he weren't getting vapor because his draw was too fast. So it's gotta be that. I was getting good draws in it. I usually put a little wax too. So it's all about the draw once you get your coil right.
 
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RelaxedNow

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I went through two bowls today and my battery is dead. Well I assume it's dead because when I plug it in it connects, and I can change temp. But doesn't show battery life. The coil is also heating up barely. This is the first time I've used the SV until it ran out. Temps 2, 4 and 8.

Honestly I was sure my vape could get 3 1/2 bowls. It's weird, I'm pretty sure I've gotten to two and a half(before charging). I'll have to run it dry again, but I guess for now it's two bowls max. (The first bowl was dumped out before it was finished too)

And it was in Joe's hands like 3 weeks ago, I remember him saying my vape charges to 90% but that meant I had more battery life.

Edit: Well actually I let someone from work use it and he weren't getting vapor because his draw was too fast. So it's gotta be that. I was getting good draws in it. I usually put a little wax too. So it's all about the draw once you get your coil right.

I charged mine for 5 hours yesterday, and the app shows it at nearly 100%. When I hit it, it's acting as though it's plugged in, with the light coming for about a second, and no heat. I tried flash/reset in the advanced app, with no luck, then actually re/wrote the firmware to the unit, still no luck.

I've emailed Joe, hoping for a simple resolution, but I'm thinking it'll need to be sent for repair. Bummer!
 

Thevengeance

Active Member
Hey, could somebody please tell me what size the hex / allen key is in the Elevape (I appear to have lost mine).

Many thanks :)
 
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Farkas

Do you know about the bird?
Hey guys. Newbie elevape owner here. Charged her up the full 5 hour minimum, took a few draws, and....nothing. Since I've read through a good portion of this thread, I tried a few things (varied my draw speed, floss around the loose mouthpiece, blew through the usb port to check the coil, changed temps) but still nothing. I'll keep fiddling with it, but I noticed that if I cover the usb port while drawing, I can hear air entering the unit elsewhere. Is that normal or could that be an issue? TIA for any responses.
 
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RelaxedNow

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I talked with Joe today, and he suggested that although the ESV is protected against overcharging, use of an iPad charger may have affected the cells. He told me to charge it with my laptop and see what happens. Tried that, with the same result (red light for about a second, then nothing...as though it thinks it's still on the charger). It looks like I'll be sending it in as soon as he gets back to me with an RMA number. The silver lining is that I have a heck of a cold, so I don't feel much like vaping anyway!

Hey guys. Newbie elevape owner here. Charged her up the full 5 hour minimum, took a few draws, and....nothing. Since I've read through a good portion of this thread, I tried a few things (varied my draw speed, floss around the loose mouthpiece, blew through the usb port to check the coil, changed temps) but still nothing. I'll keep fiddling with it, but I noticed that if I cover the usb port while drawing, I can hear air entering the unit elsewhere. Is that normal or could that be an issue? TIA for any responses.

It may not be 100% airtight, but I can't imagine enough air leaking to cause this. Is the app showing any charge?
 
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blackbur

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Yep, charge is fine. Still no clouds, though....

Empty herb chamber take apart and reassemble.
Make sure Allen screws aren't too tight or loose.
Take lid off and place thumb over herb chamber..blow into micro USB for 5-10 seconds.
Remove thumb if you feel heat..you should see that your coils are red or orange.
You coil might be broken or loose.

Contact Joe and have your model number ready and take pics of your coil.
 
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RelaxedNow

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Yep, charge is fine. Still no clouds, though....

Is the red led lighting up while you draw on it? If it is, and you think it's not heating, you can disassemble the unit. Then, watch the coil while you blow into the USB port, to see if it glows. If not, you definitely need to contact iPuff or the vendor.

If it does glow, you may want to peruse this thread for tips. With mine, if I don't draw for the full cycle, I don't see much of a cloud. Also, I find it works best if I load it loosely.
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
Alright so I've had the ESV in the house for a couple weeks and I have to say I love it. Had a little combustion in the beginning adjusted the coil. Beautiful tasty clouds on setting 1. Thanks again @subway13029
More testing on batt life still haven't hooked to pc. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
I have a wedding to go to this weekend ESV is gonna be my stealth on demand vape.
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Hi, any idea how to replace my Allen screws, they are damaged and the provided tool doesn't work very well to tight or untight now....?
maybe I must to think about a DIY solution to fix that.
 

vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Hi, any idea how to replace my Allen screws, they are damaged and the provided tool doesn't work very well to tight or untight now....?
maybe I must to think about a DIY solution to fix that.
I'd say give Joe a call for sure! He is always helpful.
 

various127

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Hey guys. Newbie elevape owner here. Charged her up the full 5 hour minimum, took a few draws, and....nothing. Since I've read through a good portion of this thread, I tried a few things (varied my draw speed, floss around the loose mouthpiece, blew through the usb port to check the coil, changed temps) but still nothing. I'll keep fiddling with it, but I noticed that if I cover the usb port while drawing, I can hear air entering the unit elsewhere. Is that normal or could that be an issue? TIA for any responses.

I had the same experience. I started to move my coil up closer to the screen. After that you might get a little vapor. I started playing with the temps from there and moving the coil until I got better vapor. By moving the coil I mean moving it closer if you get no vapor and further for hotspots. I started using the elevape with wax often and got really good results. I think I then moved the coil a bit closer and am getting decent to good results with just herb.

When checking the coil I look for which part is hotter so I can adjust the coil and my draw speed accordingly.

I get 4 hits or so of nice vapor. Not too thick, but nice. then 3-5 more wispy hits. (sometimes it varies with more or less) So I feel my elevape can still be tweaked better. Only with concentrates can I get really thick desktop quality vapor.

It may not be 100% airtight, but I can't imagine enough air leaking to cause this. Is the app showing any charge?

If you cover the mouthpiece and try and blow into the usb port it wont let you if it's airtight. Before I could blow into the usb port and hear/feel the air escaping from mouthpiece. With the floss it's airtight for me. If that's the case maybe add more layers of floss.
 
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OF

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Yep, charge is fine. Still no clouds, though....

I think, in the general case, a very common mistake for folks to make is to base how well they think it's working on 'cloud production'. That's blazing, not vaping, thinking. The newer you are to vaping, the more likely this is the case.

In the specific case of ESV, as opposed to other vapes, I think the common mistake is not treating it as what it is (a convection vape) and drawing too hard. Here experience with more normal conduction vapes can lead you astray as well. This can couple with the above 'cloud chasing as a sign of success' issue.

Instead I suggest starting from the idea that the ESV is probably working 'right' or at least as they normally do. Do the 'mirror test' (blow in the USB port while you look into the empty bowl in the mirror) to confirm is working. Blow just hard enough to light the light. Notice how, if you blow harder, you can change the size and shape of the glowing area? That's a clue too.

I suggest, instead of looking for clouds, you concentrate on hitting slowly (just enough to keep the light lit), you want the coil glowing inside. Don't worry about your exhaust. Concentrate on slow even hits keeping the light on. The check the color of the load and judge how you're going with that instead of 'clouds'. The herb should shift from green to brown and darken from there. Even if the rate is slow, look for that change.

If it changes color correctly it's extracting all the THC that's in there......clouds or not. All you can ask of any vape, it's done it's job. That change, not visible vapor, is the proof.

Drawing harder in an attempt to get more clouds, like you would do if you were smoking instead, will most likely take you in the wrong direction.

Work to get uniform darkening of the herb across the bowl. You'll most likely find it's darker on one side (toward the MP IIRC?) until you get the draw down right since the air enters the heater area through the hole the posts for the coil come though from below.

Remember how this works. You must draw air past the glowing coils slow enough so the air gets well heated. That hot air is the only way heat gets to the load where it's going to need some time in contact to get the load hot enough without excess heat as happens in combustion. There is no 'heat to spare'. Pull too fast and you get lots of air not hot enough for the job. Take it slow and let correctly heated are, at lower volumes, have time to heat the herb to the magic temperature. Clouds will come, such as they are, but trying to get them (worst still expecting clouds like you've seen on videos) without using the right technique will end in green herb and dead batteries.

Good luck, try it slow as you can for a while? Counter intuitive as that might be.

OF
 

Farkas

Do you know about the bird?
I think, in the general case, a very common mistake for folks to make is to base how well they think it's working on 'cloud production'. That's blazing, not vaping, thinking. The newer you are to vaping, the more likely this is the case.

In the specific case of ESV, as opposed to other vapes, I think the common mistake is not treating it as what it is (a convection vape) and drawing too hard. Here experience with more normal conduction vapes can lead you astray as well. This can couple with the above 'cloud chasing as a sign of success' issue.

Instead I suggest starting from the idea that the ESV is probably working 'right' or at least as they normally do. Do the 'mirror test' (blow in the USB port while you look into the empty bowl in the mirror) to confirm is working. Blow just hard enough to light the light. Notice how, if you blow harder, you can change the size and shape of the glowing area? That's a clue too.

I suggest, instead of looking for clouds, you concentrate on hitting slowly (just enough to keep the light lit), you want the coil glowing inside. Don't worry about your exhaust. Concentrate on slow even hits keeping the light on. The check the color of the load and judge how you're going with that instead of 'clouds'. The herb should shift from green to brown and darken from there. Even if the rate is slow, look for that change.

If it changes color correctly it's extracting all the THC that's in there......clouds or not. All you can ask of any vape, it's done it's job. That change, not visible vapor, is the proof.

Drawing harder in an attempt to get more clouds, like you would do if you were smoking instead, will most likely take you in the wrong direction.

Work to get uniform darkening of the herb across the bowl. You'll most likely find it's darker on one side (toward the MP IIRC?) until you get the draw down right since the air enters the heater area through the hole the posts for the coil come though from below.

Remember how this works. You must draw air past the glowing coils slow enough so the air gets well heated. That hot air is the only way heat gets to the load where it's going to need some time in contact to get the load hot enough without excess heat as happens in combustion. There is no 'heat to spare'. Pull too fast and you get lots of air not hot enough for the job. Take it slow and let correctly heated are, at lower volumes, have time to heat the herb to the magic temperature. Clouds will come, such as they are, but trying to get them (worst still expecting clouds like you've seen on videos) without using the right technique will end in green herb and dead batteries.

Good luck, try it slow as you can for a while? Counter intuitive as that might be.

OF
Really appreciate all of the responses. I will give them all a try. As I said, I've done most already, so maybe it's time to step back and try to approach it without overthinking it.

That said, my coil looks almost domed, if that makes sense. At least that's what I remember it appearing to be when I disassembled the unit last night. I thought I read that it has to be flat, no? I'll try to snap a pic or two tonight and post it up.

Again, thanks for the responses. You guys are good people...
 

Farkas

Do you know about the bird?
OK, I snapped a photo of the coil:

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It heats up fine when I test it. So perhaps it needs to be tilted/adjusted a bit up or down? I'm working on draw speed and temps, but no visible vapor yet.
 
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vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Visited a friend yesterday and took my ESV with me. Had to take from his stash which was really dry stuff and not very sticky or potent I think. Reason I'm reporting is the "issues" some people are having: I could not get more than a little wispy vapor - but had my good working settings not changed a bit. It's really important that one understands it's all about the product (urbs) when the ESV is glowing as it should.
I really thought something was wrong with my little black box and increased heat, did another setup with temps even higher... It helped a little, but it's definitely the product: when I got back, I got visible vapor with ease at 340f again... (Not a cloud chaser).
Must add the effects have been there tho despite the lack of nice clouds. It's NOT an indicator, if vaporization takes place or not.
 

suzanne72

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I clean it regularly, and it'd been only a couple of days. However, at your suggestion, I've cleaned it again. I didn't see a bit of gunk on the lens, or on the iso wipe, and the screens are in good shape.

I'm charging it again, and I think I'll go 5 hours. Then maybe I'll try flash/reset with the advanced app. It might be wasted time,
Hey guys. Newbie elevape owner here. Charged her up the full 5 hour minimum, took a few draws, and....nothing. Since I've read through a good portion of this thread, I tried a few things (varied my draw speed, floss around the loose mouthpiece, blew through the usb port to check the coil, changed temps) but still nothing. I'll keep fiddling with it, but I noticed that if I cover the usb port while drawing, I can hear air entering the unit elsewhere. Is that normal or could that be an issue? TIA for any responses.
I just got my unit back from Elevape Europe, and I had the same problem... If you have an auto stirring tool, get it off. Put on a new screen, and let the auto stirring tool off... This might be the
Strange... When was the last time you cleaned your unit? Maybe it's sensor is all dirty and your lid screen clogged up, which results in bad performance where it's almost impossible to get or keep the lights on?
If you have an auto stirring tool, try without it! This might work! And put a new screen in or clean the one in the unit. This might work!

Last week I finally got my ESV back from elevape Europe (thanks to Sandor and Balint), they modified my unit and took off the auto stirring tool.
If you have problems with vapor production, hot unit but no vapor, get the stirring tool out of the unit! This might be the solution... Cleaning the screen on the lid might also help... But although it seems to be ideal to use the auto stirring tool, it might be the solution to problems with vapor and temperature control.
It has to do something with the airflow...
 
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Kaptan

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Last week I finally got my ESV back from elevape Europe (thanks to Sandor and Balint), they modified my unit and took off the auto stirring tool.
If you have problems with vapor production, hot unit but no vapor, get the stirring tool out of the unit! This might be the solution... Cleaning the screen on the lid might also help... But although it seems to be ideal to use the auto stirring tool, it might be the solution to problems with vapor and temperature control.
It has to do something with the airflow...
Look back through this thread and try using the bottlecap screen method on the lid. This seems to be the best mod that provides vapor even on the lowest setting without hot spots.
 

suzanne72

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They made another modification on my device... they made holes in the chambers, and after one week of use i get the impression that the temperature is better controlled, better airflow and a bit more vapor...
 

RelaxedNow

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I just got my unit back from Elevape Europe, and I had the same problem... If you have an auto stirring tool, get it off. Put on a new screen, and let the auto stirring tool off... This might be the

If you have an auto stirring tool, try without it! This might work! And put a new screen in or clean the one in the unit. This might work!

Last week I finally got my ESV back from elevape Europe (thanks to Sandor and Balint), they modified my unit and took off the auto stirring tool.
If you have problems with vapor production, hot unit but no vapor, get the stirring tool out of the unit! This might be the solution... Cleaning the screen on the lid might also help... But although it seems to be ideal to use the auto stirring tool, it might be the solution to problems with vapor and temperature control.
It has to do something with the airflow...

Yeah, except my ESV isn't heating up at all. It's simply dead. Oh, and I've been set up with the bottlecap for some time. I agree that it's the best way to go. IMO, of course.

They made another modification on my device... they made holes in the chambers, and after one week of use i get the impression that the temperature is better controlled, better airflow and a bit more vapor...

Can you post a picture of this?

Yes, please post a picture.
 
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