Vapman

M0J0 said:

By the way, I read a while back that some people were leaving the vapman in the Station a bit after the LED turned green to get it a bit hotter... I wonder why they don't crank up the temp dial a bit instead - by half or a full number? I like the idiot-proofness of just setting it and waiting for the green light to come on.

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There is a subtle difference between cranking up the station to a higher level and leaving vapman on the station for a bit longer. Of course the station can be used to anyones liking, no problem nor any risk with that.

In order to explain the difference, I try to explain what happens when placing vapman on to the station.

As @Nugg already said, regardless of the dial setting, the station always works with the same temperature!
As soon vapman is placed on the station, the yellow light starts to blink and the heater is turned off for 3.8 seconds in order to measure the cooling down of the docking part. After that, the station "knows" the approximate temperature of vapman when placed on the station. This is needed because a cold vapman has to be heated up longer than a already warm vapman. Anyway, after the 3.8 seconds of measuring, the heater is turned on again until the green light comes on. Green light means, the heater is turned off and vapman is more or less as hot as chosen with the dial. Now, if someone leaves vapman on the station after the green light, vapman still gets hotter because of the stored heat of the docking part, meaning that the docking part cools down and vapman heats up until the stored heat is used up and both parts start to cool down together. Now comes the point where the frog jumps in to the water ( german saying): because the docking part cools down after leaving vapman on the station, it takes longer for the station to get back up to working temperature after vapman has been removed, indicated by the red light. This is a problem when two people are sharing the station, in that case it is advisable to crank up the dial instead of leaving vapman after the green light.

Long story short; when vapman is left on the station after the green light, it takes the station longer (red light) to get back to the standby mode (yellow light)!

BTW, the blinking interval of the yellow light is identical at all settings for the first 3.8 seconds and shorter or longer during the heating mode(untill the green light). The higher the setting the slower the blinking.

This all sounds a bit complicated but everyone using the station knows, that it isn't. In fact, the station can be used in many ways, the green light can even be completely desregarded as someone already posted but I think it helps to know how the station ticks.


All the best to everyone and lets hope, we still will be a growing and happy vapman-family in 2016!


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The vapman is a beast

@WakeAndVape Wow, you really know how to tame the beast.


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@vapman Thanks for taking the time to share some details of the stations algorithms. I was starting to tell that leaving it on there an extra second was different than turning the dial up a little, but could not figure out what was going on. Spot on!

This thing heats up SO VERY quickly. Good job man.

Got a Wong @Ed's TnT from Puff It Up and it really brings out the vapor more than any other stem I tried with water. I can do cooler temps on my station and also don't have to do two heat rounds in a row to get thick vapor out. What a great mouth piece. It is built so you can remove the Vapman easily and Ed's part will stay in the Wong. You also can use it as direct draw because it's hard wood that is tasty. It does wiggle in the Vapman a little but the top part seals it shut so no vapor escapes and you get a GREAT draw. Ed seems to get the most out of any vaporizer.

I'm glad I got the micra as I think without the ring it would be snapped in half by now. Also anyone notice timber going super soft on the inside of the bottom piece?
Also flaking micra and soft wood under it. Not sure what it's from, getting wet maybe? Can't think of when it would have gotten wet other than rinsing it off the only time I q-tipped the bowl with alcohol. The micra is flaking around the three screw points.

Love from Oz throughout the holidays, guys. Floods aplenty here but the atmosphere is perfect for a week-long Vapman affair (with a little Air, a Herbie crucible and some bags to dance with whenever I'm feeling promiscuous )

Needs me a station.

Choughed said:

So, it's been a month and a half since I got little Vapman in the mail, and I just wanted to say that my technique has been getting better the whole time. I thought I had the hang of it not long after getting it, but no, so it turns out.

I read somewhere that people who are coming from combustion tend to draw too hard, and it's so true! As soon as I slowed down, I'm getting clouds and thick vapor that nearly kills my throat! Crazy! I check for combustion - it hasn't!

A friend was showing his abv the other day - he uses a FM - and its bearly brown, where our abv is coffee coloured or darker. I'm satisfied that we're getting the most out of the herbs!

So, basically, the more VM is used, the better VM is! (Not to mention, the better I am, but that's a different thread..)

I guess I just wanted to exclaim "OMG, it keeps getting better!!" to people who understand.
Thank you!

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@Choughed What a lovely post to read! Just to know that there are people out there in remote places using vapman, warms up my heart, it really does!

Slow Draw McGraw said:

On another subject:
Is my top done for? Back when I first got it, I'll admit I used too much heat.

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@Slow Draw McGraw There is a big chance I will have an answer for you and all other users on this issue!
The middle section is the only real wear and tear part on vapman and I think it could be solved by putting some kind of thin washer underneath the middle section. I imagine that this washer could be inexpensive
and disposable, made of mica or some kind of paper. It also could be made of solid metal and be reused over and over again. Mica would have the advantage of being a very good heat insulator and hence protect the wood from burning. Mica, on the other hand, can't be cleaned, therefore it would have to be cheap and disposable.
I thought of this lately when I cleaned my worn down middle section, sanding it down is no help as it diminishes the spring action on the locking system.
This is the next vapman project, as soon the holidays are over and the company where I get the mica from is back to work, I will tackle this task.


Love,

vapman

vapman said:

What a lovely post to read! Just to know that there are people out there in remote places using vapman, warms up my heart, it really does!

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Aww, shucks. Some days feel more remote than others, but I'm not too far from normal life, just chose to do things the hard way.
Just wait until the exchange rate swings back the other way, and I'll be ordering the station quick smart!!

My torches are playing up again - I really wish I would have ordered directly from Vapman and got the proper torch too. Got one too small, one too large and one too broken.

vapman said:

@Slow Draw McGraw There is a big chance I will have an answer for you and all other users on this issue!
The middle section is the only real wear and tear part on vapman and I think it could be solved by putting some kind of thin washer underneath the middle section. I imagine that this washer could be inexpensive
and disposable, made of mica or some kind of paper. It also could be made of solid metal and be reused over and over again. Mica would have the advantage of being a very good heat insulator and hence protect the wood from burning. Mica, on the other hand, can't be cleaned, therefore it would have to be cheap and disposable.
I thought of this lately when I cleaned my worn down middle section, sanding it down is no help as it diminishes the spring action on the locking system.
This is the next vapman project, as soon the holidays are over and the company where I get the mica from is back to work, I will tackle this task.

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I cleaned her up and she fires up just like when I took her out of her shell! Heck, in fact, I tried to sneak a few kisses and she knocked me out cold. Best sleep I've had in a long time.

Choughed said:

Aww, shucks. Some days feel more remote than others, but I'm not too far from normal life, just chose to do things the hard way.
Just wait until the exchange rate swings back the other way, and I'll be ordering the station quick smart!!

My torches are playing up again - I really wish I would have ordered directly from Vapman and got the proper torch too. Got one too small, one too large and one too broken.

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There has been much discussion on here regarding torches ... i have the original and a some excellent cheaper backup torches. Have a search on the thread for the link to theses excellent torches .. or im sure @OF will post the link eventually

VapourHaze said:

There has been much discussion on here regarding torches ... i have the original and a some excellent cheaper backup torches. Have a search on the thread for the link to theses excellent torches .. or im sure @OF will post the link eventually

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Thanks @VapourHaze, I have the little one @OF likes, but I'm not a fan. The spike at the back is uncomfortable, the chain annoying (I will remove that), the lock thingy is flimsy, and the gas storage is far too small, and the whole thing feels uncomfortable in my (probably too large) hand.

I finally found my favourite one on DX, but I don't think I'd buy another of them because the spark mechanism died on me, and won't fix this time. I also got some huge Honest lighter that works great for soldering, but is otherwise too massive to use for little Vapman! haha.

I'm at a loss. I hardly used Vapman tonight.. the lighter is really the other half of the Vapman, and if it's not right, then Vapman just doesn't feel right either.

I really like the Vapman torch. Very easy to use once you get the hang of it.

VapourHaze said:

Have a search on the thread for the link to theses excellent torches .. or im sure @OF will post the link eventually

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www.dx.com/p/jet-1300-c-butane-lighter-1320#.VoK1bcnSO9I
www.tinydeal.com/refillable-jet-1300-butane-lighter-with-tank-p-2570.html

OF

when going to an SAC hut (swiss alps club) whitout electricity, the vapman shows his potential. Im the only one who will be able to take his vape, as my mates (crafty, enano, flowermate) all rely on electricity. i just have to take a can of butane and im more than sufficiently ready to vape

Also, happy new year when it comes, i'll vape some chambers for you in a remote swiss alp hut, cheers

Hope the SAC hut is not above 1600m because normal torches don't work on high elevation. There are special lighters for higher altitudes available, seen them on internet but never owned one. The 1600m is only approximate, it depends on the current atmospheric air pressure, I guess.

I keep my fingers crossed that the hut is not too high up there, otherwise it will be too high to get high and for purchasing a special lighter, it is a bit late now.

Take care,


vapman

vapman said:

I keep my fingers crossed that the hut is not too high up there, otherwise it will be too high to get high and for purchasing a special lighter, it is a bit late now.

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In any case of malfunction, dadafg will take his swiss army knife and carve in no time at all a wooden stick (diam. ca. 8mm, with a conical recess on the top) out of the beech firewood.

With nice red ember on the top of this stick, he will heaten up the vapman like the Stone Age man already did 100'000 years before.

Anyone here have any suggestions on flaking micra and damp wood? Looking for a few solutions or should I just replace?

Okay. Here's my deal. I've had lots of vapes. Pens like the Source and Dabber for concentrates, battery boxes like the PAX and Arizer Air, desktops including the Arizer EQ and da Buddha and of course a couple torch-based units as well, those being the Lotus, a stone based vapor pipe and now a VapCap (arriving next week.) Not to mention MFLBs, an iolite and a few other "exotics."

Of all of them the Lotus and Arizer Air are my favorites and daily drivers. Because the VapMan is similar in approach to both the VapCap and my beloved Lotus I'm curious what you all think: should I get a VapMan?

Obviously you're going to say "yes," so I guess I'm interested in exactly why, given my lineup and experience with vapes generally.

Thanks in advance, VapMan fans!

While I wait for McDonalds, I will enjoy the Vapman!!

Tommy10 said:

Anyone here have any suggestions on flaking micra and damp wood

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I assume you keep it in the egg? Maybe it got damp and cannot dry due to the egg sealing in the damp? Try storing it out of the egg for a day or two.

OR, Have you tried leaving it out in the sun on a warm day? Or maybe in the shade outside on a warm dry day, just in case. I doubt a day in the sun would damage it, but i don't know for sure so just keep an eye on it if you do.

Surf Monkey said:

Okay. Here's my deal. I've had lots of vapes. Pens like the Source and Dabber for concentrates, battery boxes like the PAX and Arizer Air, desktops including the Arizer EQ and da Buddha and of course a couple torch-based units as well, those being the Lotus, a stone based vapor pipe and now a VapCap (arriving next week.) Not to mention MFLBs, an iolite and a few other "exotics."

Of all of them the Lotus and Arizer Air are my favorites and daily drivers. Because the VapMan is similar in approach to both the VapCap and my beloved Lotus I'm curious what you all think: should I get a VapMan?

Obviously you're going to say "yes," so I guess I'm interested in exactly why, given my lineup and experience with vapes generally.

Thanks in advance, VapMan fans!

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As somebody who has both owned and then sold their vapman, and also owned a lotus and most every expensive vape/enail you can think of, I can recommend the vapman for a number of applications.

If you like traditional hashes or newer but not fully melting style hashes (bubble/high grade dry sift) and want something small to hit them with on the go - the vapman is great!

If you wanna connect to glass, the vapman has you covered - can connect it to 14mm/18mm reducers easily to the wood around the POM mouthpiece tip.

If you want big clouds from flowers, it can be done, but with a risk of combustion (less easy to combust while using than the lotus though IME so you might not need to worry about this at all ).

If you want the best possible flavor for hashes or flowers from the start of the bowl to finish, you will not get it here. You will get a great flavor for the first few invisible hits you get while warming up the vapman though, as good as anything else can provide. It is just that by the time you have mega clouds, the taste is comparatively gone. I am a flavor chaser and this is why I got rid of the vapman. With this being said, I'll probably end up getting another one lol.

Nothing does portable hash better!

Tommy10 said:

Anyone here have any suggestions on flaking micra and damp wood? Looking for a few solutions or should I just replace?

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You're up against it with water and mica. Water can 'wick' up between the layers, moving dissolved minerals around with it, causing all sorts of delaminations and other issues. Naturally the layers build up over long time/pressure, then it got bent so it's full of new stresses ready to break out.

I'd dry it carefully and slowly. Like in a jar with desiccant in a warm place to try to limit the damage. It should still be serviceable if kind of blotchy. Not pretty like before, but I'd expect it to soldier on (mica is tough stuff in many ways) and in a way even more personalized.

Good luck with it.

HellsWindStaff said:

While I wait for McDonalds, I will enjoy the Vapman!!

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Cool. How about a custom VM steering wheel rest? Maybe magnetically retained. Perhaps, for the Lexus owners, with a built in Heating Station?

Only for off highway use on private land.....or course.

OF

vapman said:

@Mojo Oh man, you are an alchemist, turning burned out vapman(s) into brand new ones.



Layered silicate (mica) is very pure, there are no glues or adhesives holding the single sheets together. This is not a problem as long the sheets of silicate are dry. When coming in contact with liquids, the sheets tend to separate from each other and flake off. There is one exception, linseed oil!

Applying some linseed oil on the edges of the mica helps to bond the silicate sheets and stops the flaking off. In the beginning I did not know about this, I was using linseed oil for the wood only but could not prevent some oil going between the sheets of the mica when applying the oil on vapman. Some years later, a client from Germany wrote me an email saying, that the mica of his vapman was flaking off and that he searched on internet for a solution to this problem. I could not believe what he came up with. He actually told me, that linseed oil and mica are the ideal combination. This is how I learned that I was unconsciously doing the right thing for years beforehand. From there on I deliberately applied extra linseed oil on to the edges of the mica shields. In other words, I had the answer without ever asking the question.
Isn`t the answer to all questions, 42? (Hitchhiker`s guide to the galaxy) Just use 42 and it will work!


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Damn your quick @OF, anyway @Tommy10 yes, seems to be the dampness. See above for what Mr Vapman himself had to say. Good luck.

Tommy10 said:

Anyone here have any suggestions on flaking micra and damp wood? Looking for a few solutions or should I just replace?

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I think I remember the advice for flaking mica is to just leave it alone, I could be wrong here though.

And how about using rice to dry it? Thoughts anyone....I know it's recommended for electronics when wet.