Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

If anyone cares, the hydrahoney comb is the new design not the one pictured on the VxH website.
Oh well, anxious to see the new direction they will go. Some key people in this thread have been silent which speaks volumes especially with the hydratube mishap. Not sure another company would be bouncing back like were seeing.VxH should thank all its new customers....seriously.

Edit: I didn't mean for my post to sound negative, I'm just a bummed out glass hoarder. When I said not sure other companies would bounce back- I meant because the Vape itself is awesome and the glass is secondary. And all the new customers comment -they have bought up everything not giving me a chance(meaning sales).....once again glass hoarder problems.

Slow Draw McGraw said:

If anyone cares, the hydrahoney comb is the new design not the one pictured on the VxH website.
Oh well, anxious to see the new direction they will go. Some key people in this thread have been silent which speaks volumes especially with the hydratube mishap. Not sure another company would be bouncing back like were seeing.VxH should thank all its new customers....seriously.

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Well, there have clearly been some "off" aspects of VXL's recent operation and sales tactics. The decision to drop the price for a package deal while disguising it under the premise of sales seemed pretty shady to me. I may be in the minority on this, but I seriously considered moving funds around to get in on the Veteran's Day sale. Fast forward a few months, and the price is the same. A price drop is AWESOME, and the Cloud Evo is AWESOME. But they should have made it clear that the price point was changing, and that the Hydratube quality was changing--which it is, inarguably. I will probably purchase one of the new starter packages on top of my current Evo because the deal is too good to pass up. But anyone who has owned an older Hydrabomb knows that the tubes have lessened in quality. My stereo matrix in the old tube was of Möbius quality. The new ones are, at best, of upper-end Chinese glass quality. And at this price point, that's fine. It makes a lot of sense, and the deal is awesome, and the new glass is definitely a great deal at the new price point. But AGAIN--customers had every reason to believe they were getting a different product entirely than the one they received.

I splurged on one in October because of the sale and I thought it was a limited time thing, and it did sting my wallet so I had to sell a vape, fast forward now, and it is the standard. I told my friends when I bought it I got a $700 vape for a crazy sale, that's outright not the case today though lol. So, I don't disagree it is shady but I don't particularly care too much for two reasons

1. The EVO is awesome and gets me high as shit, and their customer service has been exceptional with me

2. Since I got one at the top of the sale, I had some priority IMO in terms of quality. Which is kind of fucked up, and maybe unintentional or I'm just spitballing poorly, but I have had zero problems. My Evolver tree (final release...maybe now actually final) is blown awesomely, the percs are even, thick, it looks worth the $300 originally listed. Don't know if you can find one now like that on there. I missed the OG hydrabombs by a day or two while I was debating so I'm kicking myself on that.

It does concern me that all these problems arose after the sale. Chalk it up a lot more people got their hands on one? Not sure. Does concern me. But like I said, they've done me solid. Thankful that I've seemed to avoid all of them buying at the start of the sale

I could not afford the EVO or the tubes before. I can collect them a little now and all five I have are well built enough for me to great five star vapor out of them-especially when used with the EVO. Also my fave glass pieces because I love their build. Meaning I like using them with all my other favorite vapes upright. The HT's pair well with my Vapman, my Haze, and with the cloud buddy even my Underdog. Just great glass as far as my needs and budget go. The EVO itself is fantastic as ever, maybe the HT's were even better before but I don't want my HT's larger and, I like their compactness now. Meaning I am getting awesome results flavor wise with them, and their unique filtration systems all work uniquely to tweak the flavor. That's all I care about great vapor. The EVO and current tubes are giving it to me. Also thanks to @stickstones for his code making this fantastic vape more affordable for all of us.

mikeben said:

I could not afford the EVO or the tubes before. I can collect them a little now and all five I have are well built enough for me to great five star vapor out of them-especially when used with the EVO. Also my fave glass pieces because I love their build. Meaning I like using them with all my other favorite vapes upright. The HT's pair well with my Vapman, my Haze, and with the cloud buddy even my Underdog. Just great glass as far as my needs and budget go. The EVO itself is fantastic as ever, maybe the HT's were even better before but I don't want my HT's larger and, I like their compactness now. Meaning I am getting awesome results flavor wise with them, and their unique filtration systems all work uniquely to tweak the flavor. That's all I care about great vapor. The EVO and current tubes are giving it to me. Also thanks to @stickstones for his code making this fantastic vape more affordable for all of us.

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I love mine! And the company! And will be buying a starter package soon
Didn't mean to sound so negative. My Evo needs repairing and once I'm back in the saddle with her I'll be the most optimistic VapeXhaler around.

Hey I would have been bummed too. Once you get her going though with a nice ELB or a good dab on a VXN you will be HAPPY. At least I am. It really works nice.

Yeah, thinking about a fresh ELB of some top shelf from my local shop has me on the edge of my seat with my hand in the air.

Another positive note on VXL customer service: after a simple and polite request, they offered me an awesome deal for my bamboo repair that would give me the Hydratube, Nail, ELBs, etc. for the same discounted price, and swapping in my repair where the cost of a new evo would usually go. I won't say the total cost here out of respect to them, but if anyone wants to know PM me.

Thanks for the advice with the ELB guys. I wedged the cap in, and it was much more effective and didn't fall out when using my bong. I did however find it extremely hard to fill the bong with vapour, it milked up but took several long hard draws. I found the dry mouth hose much more effective, and quicker to get that satisfying hit. Perhaps I'll have better luck when one of the hydratubes come back into stock, as my bong is much larger than the hydra's

In other news, I should be in receipt of a Sublimator kit tomorrow. Keen to see how it compares to the Cloud EVO, although I appreciate they are very different devices. I can still see myself using the EVO, as it's less cumbersome to use. I'm certainly building up an unhealthy addiction to collecting vapes

TurboVape said:

Thanks for the advice with the ELB guys. I wedged the cap in, and it was much more effective and didn't fall out when using my bong. I did however find it extremely hard to fill the bong with vapour, it milked up but took several long hard draws. I found the dry mouth hose much more effective, and quicker to get that satisfying hit. Perhaps I'll have better luck when one of the hydratubes come back into stock, as my bong is much larger than the hydra's

In other news, I should be in receipt of a Sublimator kit tomorrow. Keen to see how it compares to the Cloud EVO, although I appreciate they are very different devices. I can still see myself using the EVO, as it's less cumbersome to use. I'm certainly building up an unhealthy addiction to collecting vapes

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I think the EVO was made for any size glass. I like small HT's but some are enormous. I think you can cloud your current piece up if you note #3 in my 3 rules of getting great clouds with the EVO.

1 The better your herb-the better the cloud. Of course

2 The hotter you do your oil-the more vapor you will get. Remember you cannot invert a nail. Try to find a quartz, much better shape, more durable, you can clean it off with a torch.. Only (sigh) grass city has them right now.

3 Don't pat down your ELB and fill it about half way with finely ground herb, but not dust. You should get really nice clouds. Start right at 2:45 if you dare......

mikeben said:

I think the EVO was made for any size glass. I like small HT's but some are enormous. I think you can cloud your current piece up if you note #3 in my 3 rules of getting great clouds with the EVO.

1 The better your herb-the better the cloud. Of course

2 The hotter you do your oil-the more vapor you will get. Remember you cannot invert a nail. Try to find a quartz, much better shape, more durable, you can clean it off with a torch.. Only (sigh) grass city has them right now.

3 Don't pat down your ELB and fill it about half way with finely ground herb, but not dust. You should get really nice clouds. Start right at 2:45 if you dare......

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Thanks for the advice.

I agree with you over the quality of herb, leads to more volume in the vapour. However, I also find the best quality herbs I have, are very sticky. It's been cured properly, but just has so many trichomes that getting a fine grind is pretty difficult.

I tend to vape at around 11 or 12. I tried it as high as 3, but had no flavour and didn't feel noticeably higher. I'll give it another try in the bong tonight at a higher temp, and see how I get on.

Evo user posting in..had mine for about 4 ish months. Favorite desktop so far. The heat up time is so much faster compared to the og cloud and I love that. I turn it on walk down stairs for a few min and come back up ..it's already a green,mean,fighting machine !
The volume of vapor amazes me ,not just the clouds but the actual density of the vapor. It's a staple for sure

TurboVape said:

Thanks for the advice.

I agree with you over the quality of herb, leads to more volume in the vapour. However, I also find the best quality herbs I have, are very sticky. It's been cured properly, but just has so many trichomes that getting a fine grind is pretty difficult.

I tend to vape at around 11 or 12. I tried it as high as 3, but had no flavour and didn't feel noticeably higher. I'll give it another try in the bong tonight at a higher temp, and see how I get on.

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No problem. I use this machine medically so I know it well.

It will be a shorter session but the vapor will be VERY thick. Still will be flavor in it, but yes you will taste more with a tube. With the sticky stuff, really just leave in the air to dry for a bit. Even really sticky stuff will get grinder ready in a few hours to a few days for a good grind.

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With the sticky stuff, really just leave in the air to dry for a bit. Ev

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Put a whole chunk in a ELB, insert it in the EVO, and take a good rip.

Then take ELB out of the EVO and dump out the chunk and grind it up a little. Put it back in the ELB and let her rip! The first hit should dry a lot of it out.

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No problem. I use this machine medically so I know it well.

It will be a shorter session but the vapor will be VERY thick. Still will be flavor in it, but yes you will taste more with a tube. With the sticky stuff, really just leave in the air to dry for a bit. Even really sticky stuff will get grinder ready in a few hours to a few days for a good grind.

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If I crank the temp past say 1 o'clock, the ABV goes completely black, is that right? A little worried it's combusting at that temp.

TurboVape said:

If I crank the temp past say 1 o'clock, the ABV goes completely black, is that right? A little worried it's combusting at that temp.

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I've never had black ABV. Very dark, roasted coffee brown, yes, but not black. I typically finish my bowls at 3 o'clock.

However, if you combusted, you'd know it. There's no mistaking it. If you're not sure, you didn't combust.

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I've never had black ABV. Very dark, roasted coffee brown, yes, but not black. I typically finish my bowls at 3 o'clock.

However, if you combusted, you'd know it. There's no mistaking it. If you're not sure, you didn't combust.

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I have to agree with this, if you combusted you will know it. Half vaped weed that gets combusted is nasty, no mistaking the taste and the thick white smoke! Unless you're a 220v model (uk model) 1 o clock shouldn't be high enough to combust your herb. It seems the uk models may run hotter?

I have found that my American unit is able to achieve combustion at 3:00 once in a while when there is a good heat-soak, so I usually only go up to 2:00 these days and I am able to get a full extraction.

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I have to agree with this, if you combusted you will know it. Half vaped weed that gets combusted is nasty, no mistaking the taste and the thick white smoke! Unless you're a 220v model (uk model) 1 o clock shouldn't be high enough to combust your herb. It seems the uk models may run hotter?

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I don't think my UK model runs any hotter.
I've combusted with my EVO once, by fooling around trying... and never again
I usually use mine set around 2-3ish and it had been switched on, in use, heatsoaking all day.
I'd seen posts mentioning combusting on here, but for some silly reason I didn't think mine would get hot enough to achieve ignition and I was quickly proved wrong.
I turned up the dial to maximum popped in a fresh ELB and took a rip. As I started to draw I noticed a glow in the bottom of the HT as it clouded quicker than it normally would. I stopped and pulled the ELB out but it was too late.. I had to scrub out the HT after that, it was disgusting.

I've used my EVO set to max before and will continue to do so, but only within the first 30-60 mins while it's heatsoaking before turning it down to my usual setting.

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I don't think my UK model runs any hotter.
I've combusted with my EVO once, by fooling around trying... and never again
I usually use mine set around 2-3ish and it had been switched on, in use, heatsoaking all day.
I'd seen posts mentioning combusting on here, but for some silly reason I didn't think mine would get hot enough to achieve ignition and I was quickly proved wrong.
I turned up the dial to maximum popped in a fresh ELB and took a rip. As I started to draw I noticed a glow in the bottom of the HT as it clouded quicker than it normally would. I stopped and pulled the ELB out but it was too late.. I had to scrub out the HT after that, it was disgusting.

I've used my EVO set to max before and will continue to do so, but only within the first 30-60 mins while it's heatsoaking before turning it down to my usual setting.

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That's good to know! I seem to recall a few pages back people were saying the 220v models run hotter but it seems as long you don't let them heat soak no worries.

I don't generally leave mine on for extended periods. I medicate and it's usually 2-3 hours before I medicate again although I have been known to do extended sessions!

mikeben said:

I think the EVO was made for any size glass. I like small HT's but some are enormous. I think you can cloud your current piece up if you note #3 in my 3 rules of getting great clouds with the EVO.

1 The better your herb-the better the cloud. Of course

2 The hotter you do your oil-the more vapor you will get. Remember you cannot invert a nail. Try to find a quartz, much better shape, more durable, you can clean it off with a torch.. Only (sigh) grass city has them right now.

3 Don't pat down your ELB and fill it about half way with finely ground herb, but not dust. You should get really nice clouds. Start right at 2:45 if you dare......

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Is the quartz nail really that much better? I just ordered 5 glass nails for like $42. I have had no problem torching my current glass nail clean, and flavor has been great. Is it mostly because of durability?

I really like my Quartz! I have a glass one that didn't fit my tube, I should try it out again and let you know!

I have hit weed at temps of up to 4 o clock/ 5 o clock. No combustion for me. You need to use the force and use it on a solid surface. I combusted at 1 o clock one time when the intake hole was on a surface that choked it (an ottoman).

I swam competitively for many many years prior to smoking, which I think helped me when I was going through puberty and shit because once I was able to smoke, I always had considerably more power in me then my friends. They used to call me Iron Lungs/The Hammer point is, I can hit a bong relatively hard and perc it strongly, for a pretty long time, I'm never really worried about drawing too slow and burning but I can see how it would happen to people. One of the main reasons I like the EVO is because I can one hit kill pretty big loads with it at a high temp! Melts ya!

Here are some awesome tasty dabs through a JoDa J-Hook! The taste is unreal! I have been having fun trying my different pieces with the EVO, my single circ was not the greatest for a dab but it worked awesome with flowers! The new rig I got last week with a matrix is awesome for both! Double Matrix is more awesome for flowers (this is what I use high temp flowers with usually), but works great with both! The honeycomb I have I actually don't really like thus far with the EVO, seems to chug, I'll have to tinker! Of course the Hydratree is great! Cheers all!

tylerj55 said:

Is the quartz nail really that much better? I just ordered 5 glass nails for like $42. I have had no problem torching my current glass nail clean, and flavor has been great. Is it mostly because of durability?

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Well I think the Quartz is just easier to use. I can get it hot with a torch clean then dunk it in ice water. It also has a bigger opening to get your dab in, and I like the shape better. I feel the taste is better, I would never miss my glass nails if I could replace them all with Quartz.

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Well I think the Quartz is just easier to use. I can get it hot with a torch clean then dunk it in ice water. It also has a bigger opening to get your dab in, and I like the shape better. I feel the taste is better, I would never miss my glass nails if I could replace them all with Quartz.

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I think it might depend on what generation of quartz and boro nails you have. I believe the new quartz and boro nails are the same exact shape, the slits are just angled different between the two to tell them apart.

I know some of the original quartz nails had the rounded bottom. Some old nails had more of a "curved smile" slit, than the straight one on the current. Older nails also appear to have been fatter in diameter.