Trying to "FuckCombustion"

ethiastery

ethiastery

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Hello FC community,

Been reading for, well, months. Right off, thank you all.

I'm very busy day-to-day and really only have time to read things here and there. That being said, the wealth of information and enthusiasm here is great. Excited to be a part of this forum.

That being said, I struggle with Vaporizing, but part of this may be my tolerance, which is considerable. I do not mess with dabbing/concentrates anymore (it got to the point where weed wasn't even getting me high), but let's just say I can handle any amount of flowers at any given time. ANY given time. For years. I realized several years into my relationship with cannabis that T-Breaks are an essential tool for any stoner to remain stoned. I learned fast... even a day makes that end-of-day session all the more worth it. Nevertheless, like many of my long-time friends agree, it's almost fucking impossible for me to wait most days until night for a session. Life happens too often.

And that brings me to my major point of struggle: the high from my Volcano used to get me lit... but it's just not doing it for me any longer. Neither is my Pax. Neither is my Firefly. Neither is my Hydratube-Volcano vapor bong really getting me that excited (for awhile I thought that setup would be it for life...still, my Hydratube/Volcano system is EPIC... I can elaborate more on this bagless setup if anyone on here is interested in fiddling around with a new 'Cano setup (that if you vape less than an 1/8th a day will lay you on your ass).

All that being said, I really think my problem is tolerance, right? Sometimes I'll crave the fuck out of a joint...I'll sneak out back where my wife can't find me and quickly huff a fucking smoke just b/c I'm craving that cloudy-funtimes-high (even like a 3, 4 level buzz from a joint is all I need sometimes). My wife is a PURE vaporist...see, she hates smoking so hard. My problem is I'm really trying to say "Fuck Combustion", but I feel this insistent, dirty, nagging call from joints...not to mention the glass that's screeching my name from the closet over there.

Regardless, I'm just saying I understand vaping is better for you. Vaping is better in general. I'm here to confess my smokes, and say I'm working on it. Maybe being on here will get me to truly FC.

Lates yall - good to be here,
-Hazel
 
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Reliable ShotZ

Active Member
Maybe a butane vape might do the trick for you, something like the vapman. I recently been running into moments where it just doesn't hit the spot and with my flowermate I just use the top temp with a finer grind. Top temps are where its at if you want to truly replace combustion. I think I have an indica strain atm and it can be a very mild high in the lower temperatures, I'm from the UK so I just have to put up with what I'm given.
 
Hippie Dickie

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
@ethiastery - when the receptors are full, they're full. either vaping or smoking will deliver the goods. but you're looking for that extra something that only burning the herb can produce. you and your wife sound like me and my gf, only reversed ... despite having a Bud Toaster, she STILL sparks a j about half the time.

om ... embrace the difference ... me, i'm into how clean and clear the vapor from an all glass vaporizer can be, taste, feel.

rather than a tolerance break, i find just a pinch at a time (i.e. much less than a full vial) provides for a quicker session and a pleasant day long buzz.
 
Hippie Dickie,
max

max

Out to lunch
ethiastery said:
part of this may be my tolerance
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I'd say a large part. Most people have an adjustment, going from smoke to vapor, but those who are sufficiently motivated to switch, for whatever reason, usually stick with vaping and are able to quick combustion. If you like the effect you get from smoking, with the added lethargy from the smoke byproducts, and thus a stronger overall effect, and continue to mix smoking with vaping, it becomes much more difficult to switch and appreciate the cleaner effect from vapor.
 
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nondarb

nondarb

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Reliable ShotZ said:
Maybe a butane vape might do the trick for you
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+1 butane vapes are the closest thing I've found to combustion (both physically and metaphorically!). I am not too impressed with the volcano, it was my first proper vape to use and didn't give me a very profound buzz. It wasn't a one time thing either, my friends had it for 8 years..

I prefer high temp vaping though so that is to be considered.
 
nondarb,
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
When switching to vaporizing during the transition use high temps like 390 - 400 degrees, it may help. You are used to the harshness anyway of the combusting. Most of us have gone through it. It really is a change of lifestyle, and will be one of the best things you can do for your health if you are a heavy smoker.
 
ethiastery

ethiastery

Member
Hey thanks all!

@Reliable ShotZ Does the butane can inhaled? The vapman looks like a nice version of a vapor genie i've seen. Can you use a hemp wick or is that super gnarly? Looks like a pretty cool little portable situation tho... my Pax is annoying af to operate on the move (to clean/pack it/draw resistance).

@Hippie Dickie Yeah...my receptors are def full lol. I hate t-breaks (obviously)... when you say pinch...you mean let a .2-.3 float right over the easy valve screen? This doesn't do shit for me unfortunately... only thing I feel in the slightest is 426 full gram after waiting till like 5pm. Then i'm good for a few hours of work. So it goes...

@max I think I agree with you the most... it's all mental I think. I need to just fully appreciate the subtleties and gracefulness of vaporizing (not to be, uh, melodramatic or whatever).

@nondarb The vapman? What torch is the best/safest? Do you inhale butane? I'm confused about these vapes... can some butane cape nerd jump in here and teach me a lesson?

@CarolKing I'm ready for that change in lifestyle. I'm fairly confident that vaporizing is the closest I can get to the medicines I replaced with weed (NO BENZOS FOR 16 years!). So yeah...I really look forward to posting here more often.

Cheers!
 
DDave

DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
ethiastery said:
but part of this may be my tolerance, which is considerable.
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I'm going to run with this point. I've read, even for those combusting, they can get to a point of numbness... where no matter how much they smoke, they can't get high... Vapers too I've read can get to the same tolerance level.

I don't know if you're medical or recreational. Whether you can afford to take a TBreak or not, but I'd advise it.

When you come back... try different practices if you can. Micro-dosing is becoming popular. many reporting they get to where they need to be with fractions of the herb they used to use.

TBreaks are not fun. But they can really be worth the investment! Same with controlled usage.. Measure your doses, pace your sessions, etc...
 
ethiastery

ethiastery

Member
DDave said:
I'm going to run with this point. I've read, even for those combusting, they can get to a point of numbness... where no matter how much they smoke, they can't get high... Vapers too I've read can get to the same tolerance level.

I don't know if you're medical or recreational. Whether you can afford to take a TBreak or not, but I'd advise it.

When you come back... try different practices if you can. Micro-dosing is becoming popular. many reporting they get to where they need to be with fractions of the herb they used to use.

TBreaks are not fun. But they can really be worth the investment! Same with controlled usage.. Measure your doses, pace your sessions, etc...
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This is it I think, thanks DDave. I really think I just need a lil ole internet support to commit to the idea of week long t-break (FIRST TIME EVER!)... then get into the idea of micro-dosing (and measuring amounts...like a gram over a whole day or something...I doubt I can do less than that hah). I'm medical - have an autoimmune disease than MMJ helps with tremendously. However, I don't really go with the whole it's a medial drug thing. Pot is a drug when you hit it like I do usually. I'm ok with this. It's just the best drug there is... and I'd like to respect it a bit more like you all do I guess.
 
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DDave

DDave

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ethiastery said:
This is it I think, thanks DDave. I really think I just need a lil ole internet support to commit to the idea of week long t-break (FIRST TIME EVER!)... then get into the idea of micro-dosing (and measuring amounts...like a gram over a whole day or something...I doubt I can do less than that hah). I'm medical - have an autoimmune disease than MMJ helps with tremendously. However, I don't really go with the whole it's a medial drug thing. Pot is a drug when you hit it like I do usually. I'm ok with this. It's just the best drug there is... and I'd like to respect it a bit more like you all do I guess.
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I wish you the best in this!

MMJ helps me with dizziness, sometimes so severe I can't function. During a TBreak, there is little relief!

You've come to the right place for internet support! I've never stayed in one forum actively for as long as I've been with FC, and for good reason... there's a schload of good people here!
 
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Chill Dude

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ethiastery said:
All that being said, I really think my problem is tolerance, right? Sometimes I'll crave the fuck out of a joint...I'll sneak out back where my wife can't find me and quickly huff a fucking smoke just b/c I'm craving that cloudy-funtimes-high (even like a 3, 4 level buzz from a joint is all I need sometimes). My wife is a PURE vaporist...see, she hates smoking so hard. My problem is I'm really trying to say "Fuck Combustion", but I feel this insistent, dirty, nagging call from joints...not to mention the glass that's screeching my name from the closet over there.
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There's nothing wrong with ripping on a joint occasionally. Like you, the high I get from a joint is more intense than vaping and I seek that type of effect when partaking recreationally. On the other hand, I prefer vaping in the evenings when hanging at home as I'm seeking the medicinal effects...pain relief, anxiety relief and relaxation, sleep aid ......For me, it's all about balance, I smoke two or three times a month and really don't feel guilty about it lol...it's different and I enjoy the fuck out of it. If you're able to limit your smoking to just two or three times a month you'll have the best of both worlds!!

Personally, I'm not too worried about any negative health outcome from smoking such a small amount..

However, some people on this forum think it's imperative to Fuck Combution completely..maybe they're right? That might be necessary for some people that can't limit their smoking, but I've found that vaping and occasional smoking can coexist :tup:
 
chris 71

chris 71

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ethiastery

ethiastery

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Thanks @DDave ... I agree - I feel like T-breaks aren't ideal b/c not taking MMJ for my issues, is well, an issue! One day isn't very tough though, even for a 100mg edible / 3grams a day kinda guy. I'm glad to learn of the people here... all of whom seem legit.

@Chill Dude I like your angle on this "vaping medicinally/smoking recreationally" method. I think that makes the most sense to me. Save the smokes for when with the buds (the people kind). I think I'm going to remain a hybrid (AlmostFuckCombustion) territory for a few more years... as long as these perfectly rolled joints keep calling my name (friends request my bat 1g rolls for parties and the like).

@chris 71 Huff a half gram joint in a minute - you'll see what I mean (although short lived - I feel like a court jester when I smoke a high grade joint quickly - I still get all buzzed and giggly). Giving my volcano 20minutes I can get fairly high... but it isn't like a joint. Most likely because of what @CarolKing and @Hippie Dickie have commented on. Meh - vaping is 1000% better than pills. So vaping it is. (Does anyone else hate the autocorrect to gaping as much as I do? LOL WTF how do I turn that off?).

Anyways, thanks again guys. I'ma post up here again tomorrow when I rip a gram @426 after this shitty day off (made slightly less shitty by me about to go see SW).

Peace
 
AJS

AJS

Calm Consistency
@ethiastery
I think many of us can vouch that vaping gets us significantly more stoned than smoking. Smoking removes a lot of the lower temp cannabinoids that vaping can actually extract.
You just gotta commit for a bit.. Get a hard hitting vape, one that really punches you in the face, and it'll help you convert.
Never used the Volcano, but I don't think I could ever see myself committing to bags....
 
ataxian

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
ethiastery said:
Hello FC community,

Been reading for, well, months. Right off, thank you all.

I'm very busy day-to-day and really only have time to read things here and there. That being said, the wealth of information and enthusiasm here is great. Excited to be a part of this forum.

That being said, I struggle with Vaporizing, but part of this may be my tolerance, which is considerable. I do not mess with dabbing/concentrates anymore (it got to the point where weed wasn't even getting me high), but let's just say I can handle any amount of flowers at any given time. ANY given time. For years. I realized several years into my relationship with cannabis that T-Breaks are an essential tool for any stoner to remain stoned. I learned fast... even a day makes that end-of-day session all the more worth it. Nevertheless, like many of my long-time friends agree, it's almost fucking impossible for me to wait most days until night for a session. Life happens too often.

And that brings me to my major point of struggle: the high from my Volcano used to get me lit... but it's just not doing it for me any longer. Neither is my Pax. Neither is my Firefly. Neither is my Hydratube-Volcano vapor bong really getting me that excited (for awhile I thought that setup would be it for life...still, my Hydratube/Volcano system is EPIC... I can elaborate more on this bagless setup if anyone on here is interested in fiddling around with a new 'Cano setup (that if you vape less than an 1/8th a day will lay you on your ass).

All that being said, I really think my problem is tolerance, right? Sometimes I'll crave the fuck out of a joint...I'll sneak out back where my wife can't find me and quickly huff a fucking smoke just b/c I'm craving that cloudy-funtimes-high (even like a 3, 4 level buzz from a joint is all I need sometimes). My wife is a PURE vaporist...see, she hates smoking so hard. My problem is I'm really trying to say "Fuck Combustion", but I feel this insistent, dirty, nagging call from joints...not to mention the glass that's screeching my name from the closet over there.

Regardless, I'm just saying I understand vaping is better for you. Vaping is better in general. I'm here to confess my smokes, and say I'm working on it. Maybe being on here will get me to truly FC.

Lates yall - good to be here,
-Hazel
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We all react differently.
Some like a High temp and some Low
I like both!

I miss joints so much however they make the CANNABIS taste weird?

Guess I'm sploid from vaporizing?

Kind of like saying you don't believe in a talking snake.

All the guy's I grew up with say I'm a trader now because I vaporize!

Get ready for rejection!

CANNABIS is the GRAIL!


Bars are legal?
 
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virtualpurple

virtualpurple

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Get yourself a good log vape like an Underdog. The log vape concept was unattractive to me at first because I longed to have a dial.

However log vapes are super efficient and they hit wicked hard. You can also fine tune your temperature with a vvps or a dimmer switch, but I can say that I have not used my vvps more than once (I just found it kinda clunky).

Another heavy hitter would be the cloud EVO.
 
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Tommy10

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Went from vaping a gram+ in the HA over single sessions and feeling less and less high. Small loads in the VapMan got me back there! And I notice even more, if I bindge vape my tollerance sharply increases. The turn around time was quick too, noticible bud saving and noticble effect increase within the first week.
 
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TboneToker

TboneToker

Well-Known Member
nondarb said:
+1 butane vapes are the closest thing I've found to combustion (both physically and metaphorically!). I am not too impressed with the volcano, it was my first proper vape to use and didn't give me a very profound buzz. It wasn't a one time thing either, my friends had it for 8 years..

I prefer high temp vaping though so that is to be considered.
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To be fair I had the oposite reaction with the volcano and found it works better for me than most vapes! So it must be personal for each! (:

Additional question. I was thinking of getting an evo but I think the underdog will be just as handy and much nicer in looks to me I am just wondering if I can get equally dense clouds from them!? Gotta love FC not just for the great info on vaping and quitting cigarettes or smoking in general but it's like a place to go for any kind of community/assistance. Much appreciation <3
 
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