Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless
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CrazyDiamond
Crosseyed & Painless
@ReggieB That works awesome with paper but this material is pretty thick and dark and I could not see oil but probably plant material. My blowout was at the bottom out of sight for the most part.
@CrazyDiamond , I could hear the rosin cooking during the press and looking at the rosin from the top down in between the material, I could see bubbles of rosin with white smoke/vapor inside. Temp was my first thought also and I will try it a little hotter, but I still think there is just something really cool happening with the parchment paper that I have not seen happen with PTFE or this teflon material or any other materials. I am not saying the oil is different in any way, just how it moves and gets deposited, looks different and collects so much easier.
Edit: The puck did come off this material a bit easier than the PTFE after pressing.
More testing needed for sure.
@CrazyDiamond , I could hear the rosin cooking during the press and looking at the rosin from the top down in between the material, I could see bubbles of rosin with white smoke/vapor inside. Temp was my first thought also and I will try it a little hotter, but I still think there is just something really cool happening with the parchment paper that I have not seen happen with PTFE or this teflon material or any other materials. I am not saying the oil is different in any way, just how it moves and gets deposited, looks different and collects so much easier.
Edit: The puck did come off this material a bit easier than the PTFE after pressing.
More testing needed for sure.
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I just tried reusing that material from yesterday at 225f and I don't know if the little scuff marks are causing the puck to stick to the material or if the extra heat is the cause or if it's the oil that I could not get off the material, but for me, this stuff does not seem to be reusable after all. Collection is now near impossible also.
It's back to parchment for now.
It's back to parchment for now.
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Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
Y'know how food will stick to a new wok if it hasn't been seasoned?
Would seasoning the Ti foil somehow, possibly prevent the puck from sticking?
Dunno how the foil could be seasoned though.
Sorry to go back to something that has been tried and found wanting.
Just a highdea.
On another topic, has anyone tried pressing hops?
I've vaped them and found them to be surprisingly soporific.
I wonder if the oil from them would have the same effect?
The first lot I got smelled quite unpleasant, but the vapour tasted better.
I'm going to try another strain to see if they smell/taste any different.
Would seasoning the Ti foil somehow, possibly prevent the puck from sticking?
Dunno how the foil could be seasoned though.
Sorry to go back to something that has been tried and found wanting.
Just a highdea.
On another topic, has anyone tried pressing hops?
I've vaped them and found them to be surprisingly soporific.
I wonder if the oil from them would have the same effect?
The first lot I got smelled quite unpleasant, but the vapour tasted better.
I'm going to try another strain to see if they smell/taste any different.
tepictoton
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Why are we not using ss screens? Cause that idea keeps coming back to me.
Yes I know, some loses will be had this way, but I wonder if we cannot just saturate this screen and keep on pressing with it, thus losing a bit on your first squish, but all subsequent squishes will be yielding the same if you keep using same screen?
Seems like all the alternatives so far add a possibility of something leaking into your oil...
Yes I know, some loses will be had this way, but I wonder if we cannot just saturate this screen and keep on pressing with it, thus losing a bit on your first squish, but all subsequent squishes will be yielding the same if you keep using same screen?
Seems like all the alternatives so far add a possibility of something leaking into your oil...
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Yeah that would work, I guess it's kinda hard to work with? I don't bother with screens when squishing flowers? Just compact and pre-squish a little bit and there is little to no particulate.
People trying to press larger amounts are using screens and terp tubes and all kinds of filter bags and mesh bags, all still pressing on parchment paper. I have tried screens and bags and for me, I prefer just the parchment alone so far..
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herbivore21
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Awwwww man, you're KILLING me with these pics
I used to get stuff that approached that quality (very talented friend) but not for a LONG time now
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I've recently been getting some alright stuff, but nothing approaching the above.
Truly 'high end' relaxation has been a spectator sport for me for some time now, but don't worry, I'm saving for a holiday in CO!
Have faith my friend, I am in the cannabis wasteland, where bud is generally on par or possibly worse than mexibrick for the most part. If I can find this material (through the grace of whatever heavenly entity and a truly gifted source), then I'm sure even you can with enough searching. If you beat me to Co, send my regards!
Hey bro, I find that the muslin cloth I use doesn't soak up the material if I give it a good, high pressure, long squish after I've taken the material out and almost finished with it. YMMV depending on your squish setup.
For straighteners, PM me with your region (and local mains voltage) and I'll see if I know anyone that can help with something that will work for you locally.
I got a chance to try some of the material @shark sandwich had linked, today. This material looks like it may hold up to our pressures. Here is a piece I pressed without any herb, just to see if there was any damage but it looked "ok"... (the marks were on it before pressing)
After the press, the bud was still noticeably soaked in rosin, so it's not letting the rosin flow like the parchment paper does?
This could be temps, but I doubt it.
Interesting stuff man! I will advise that we should cut and use separate pieces on each side of any materials like these, rather than fold. Squishing along a fold is more likely to compromise the non-stick material.
I'll have the infamous panini grill sheets tomorrow, so will report on my experiences in short order. My vise plates are not far behind!
Most certainly the extra heat will be required. I found that even going from slick sheet (PTFE) to slick wrap (silicone/cellulose matrix with foil backing), there was more heat required to get the conduction onto the puck.
Absolutely man, your puck falls outside of the plates and that protruding edge of the puck is gonna end up a shiney one! lol
The fold was outside the jaws or it was my intent to be... I am a taco tech guy I guess, it's easier to load most of the time.
CrazyDiamond
Crosseyed & Painless
I would think if you used a screen over and over that you would lose more and more oil...you'll just keep piling layer upon layer. If your flower is properly hydrated I believe that you will get minimal to no plant matter. I have very little plant material after flower squishes and most of the time there is zero plant matter. Parchment only here too.
heady blunts
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very little and no contaminant are WORLDS apart
i can't go back to dabbing the former now that i can make the latter so consistently. filters ftw.
i think the biggest obstacle to a reusable filter pouch is it may be a pain to try and separate it from the material inside once flattened together.
@Joel W. ime any material that is left outside the pressing area during a squish will act like a sponge and absorb much of the surrounding oil, robbing yields. ideally the flattened puck is just slightly smaller than the area of your plates.
that's one of the things i like about filter packets---they help fit as much as possible in the squish zone.
i can't go back to dabbing the former now that i can make the latter so consistently. filters ftw.
i think the biggest obstacle to a reusable filter pouch is it may be a pain to try and separate it from the material inside once flattened together.
@Joel W. ime any material that is left outside the pressing area during a squish will act like a sponge and absorb much of the surrounding oil, robbing yields. ideally the flattened puck is just slightly smaller than the area of your plates.
that's one of the things i like about filter packets---they help fit as much as possible in the squish zone.
herbivore21
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That's the spirit! hahaha actually I suppose I sorta do the taco tek too, wait no I fold the sides in too (what kind of Mexican food is that?) lolThe fold was outside the jaws or it was my intent to be... I am a taco tech guy I guess, it's easier to load most of the time.
I just received some panini cooking accessories that may have been of interest to people in this thread
They are much thinner than I thought, I don't think jacking up heat will really be a big issue! Haven't squished yet, will get to that later today! Excited to see how it goes, especially the reusability!
PoopMachine
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I see Raw has parchment paper out now. Has anyone tried it? I bought some today at a local shop.. Ill give i a whirl later
herbivore21
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I have tried it, the unbleached parchment paper. It was decent, but I would use slick wrap over that for flowers for sure!
Can't wait to check this new stuff out, it seems like a dream - all of the positives of slick wrap (silicone/cellulose matrix with foil backing) and slick sheet (PTFE) put together!
herbivore21
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Yup, Rufio Craft et al do the Rosinworks plates, expensive, until you realize they give you a quad enail controller with the plates (AFAIK). Also Joel W. makes epic plates for both vises and hydraulics - they are made of copper/nickel. I was originally going to go hydraulic, but given the pressure measurements being thrown about here, I'd be inclined to think that unless you wanna produce on a serious scale, you don't need more than a vise.
I really recommend going with our own @Joel W. as not only is his service great, but he will get to you long before the Rosinworks guys, who apparently have a waiting list.
Hey thanks for your prompt response.
How do I get in contact with Joel w? Does he have a website or just via DM?
And yeah I liked rosinworks and would buy if there wasn't a waiting list.
How do I get in contact with Joel w? Does he have a website or just via DM?
And yeah I liked rosinworks and would buy if there wasn't a waiting list.
herbivore21
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No problem man
His thread is here: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/c...-arbor-jaws-for-rosin-tech.19491/#post-859717
PM: @Joel W. to order I believe!
Monsoon
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Without the e-nail the Rosinworks plates are $200-300, but it's a moot point now since they've finally put a hold on orders. The e-nails are a crude and overpriced option but better PID-based heating options are a few months off.
All the info is here, just DM him and you can work out the details. If you want to get squishing quickly and cheaply, he's the best and maybe only option right now.
herbivore21
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lol we almost said the same thing at the same time!
http://www.medisunfarmsconcentrates.com/ seems to sell some stuff also. I can't tell what size they are though.