I was absolutely appalled at Trumps mimicry of the disabled reporter - absolutely despicable!!! Low life scum.
The 2016 Presidential Candidates Thread
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TeeJay1952
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I thought "Kill the Terrorist's families" should disqualify him from consideration.
Just about everything that pukes out of Trumps mouth is poison, IMO!
Chill Dude
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The scary thing is that after all the outrageous things Trump has said, he's still leading in the polls by a significant margin. The GOP base is so far right wing that it's absolutely crazy. No more moderate, sensible republicans anymore.
Scary indeed!!!!
amen 
Solution: put a mandatory gag order on all media for at least two years - don't give terrorists a stage or an audience; declare war and unleash HELL wherever they are- finish it. EDUCATE. Start the world over.
Trump's view of the world = Mein Kampf.
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KimDracula
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The Iraq vote is a legitimate criticism. Equating her with Donald Trump because of it is a huge oversimplification that I'm surprised you're bothering to defend. It's the comparison I was criticizing; not the wariness of Clinton.
howie105
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I am not disagreeing with history, my point is you don't operate in the region for that long without both parties being on board.
grokit
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I don't believe I equated hillary with trump, at least I didn't mean to do that or even defend such an idea. But really, this kind of comparison is impossible since she's a known quantity as secretary of state, while "the donald" has no foreign policy experience whatsoever -- unless you count building golf courses and resorts all over the world. While he is quite bellicose in this area, when pressed for specifics he will only say that he will "get some really smart guys" to figure out all of these "details". Because he's an executive!
KimDracula
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Farid
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I hate Trump, but realistically, I think he would be cozier to Russia than Clinton, which would make him more standoffish in the ME. He has said in interviews that he thinks Putin is making a mistake getting involved in Syria, and that it could be another Afghanistan for Russia. I am not saying this to defend him, and I would never vote for him, but in my opinion Trump would be devastating for domestic issues, while Clinton would be devastating for foreign policy issues. There's no real knowing how Trump would act with foreign policy, once he's been briefed by intelligence. I still will judge Hillary's foreign policy on her vote for the Iraq war, and the fiasco in Libya.
olivianewtonjohn
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God I wish I could find the hawk vs hawk quiz between john mccain and hillary; think it would fit right in to this discussion of hilary not being a war hawk (and corporate whore but thats another related point)..................
ichibaneye
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The two party system is a sham folks. Wtfu! If your dream candidate is bribed and owned then you are at a loss. They work for the money the corporations that are considered to be more valuable people yes people than you or I. The voting system it corrupt and you are daft to actually think most of, if any of the general publics votes are factored in. They are not. Don't even try to quote biased ethically compromised studies or reports. You only look like that much more of a sheep happily ready for the slaughter house floor. Which is where we are all headed. Divide and conquer runs most of us. The change starts locally from the bottom up. The states need to start telling the pos government to take a hike. This country like others is not perfect but the best and only idea of its kind in history. So......let's argue over the same lame talking points and watch it die in our lifetime. All while the real shit goes on and on while they have us all looking the other way. Or.....stop complaining and get off your assess and be involved directly somehow. Not "I voted". Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Anyone is 5150 thinking otherwise. So how are most of you not bat shit crazy when it comes to the two party system. Lol.. Oh yeah because your team was offended maybe your pride hurt because as far as your knowledge goes it does not match up with what the dummy-box (tv) said. Grrrr now get mad and don't think jusy react, be part of the heard mentality obey shut up.... oh yeah and nothing to see here. Ehhhhem...
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grokit
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I've been saying the same thing for decades now:The two party system is a sham folks. Wtfu! If your dream candidate is bribed and owned then you are at a loss. They work for the money the corporations that are considered to be more valuable people yes people than you or I. The voting system it corrupt and you are daft to actually think most of, if any of the general publics votes are factored in. They are not. Don't even try to quote biased ethically compromised studies or reports. You only look like that much more of a sheep happily ready for the slaughter house floor. Which is where we are all headed. Divide and conquer runs most of us. The change starts locally from the bottom up. The states need to start telling the pos government to take a hike. This country like others is not perfect but the best and only idea of its kind in history. So......let's argue over the same lame talking points and watch it die in our lifetime. All while the real shit goes on and on while they have us all looking the other way. Or.....stop complaining and get off your assess and be involved directly somehow. Not "I voted". Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Anyone is 5150 thinking otherwise. So how are most of you not bat shit crazy when it comes to the two party system. Lol.. Oh yeah because your team was offended maybe your pride hurt because as far as your knowledge goes it does not match up with what the dummy-box (tv) said. Grrrr now get mad and don't think jusy react, be part of the heard mentality obey shut up.... oh yeah and nothing to see here. Ehhhhem...
- If you want change,
- Follow the money,
- And vote the other way.
olivianewtonjohn
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http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00000019
Hillary Clinton:
Top 5 Contributors, 1999 - 2016
Contributor Total Indivs PACs
Citigroup Inc $824,402 $816,402 $8,000
Goldman Sachs $760,740 $750,740 $10,000
DLA Piper $700,530 $673,530 $27,000
JPMorgan Chase & Co $696,456 $693,456 $3,000
Morgan Stanley $636,564 $631,564 $5,000
Nothing too see here
Time Warner #7 on her list of top donors; remember that the next time you watch CNN
Hillary Clinton:
Top 5 Contributors, 1999 - 2016
Contributor Total Indivs PACs
Citigroup Inc $824,402 $816,402 $8,000
Goldman Sachs $760,740 $750,740 $10,000
DLA Piper $700,530 $673,530 $27,000
JPMorgan Chase & Co $696,456 $693,456 $3,000
Morgan Stanley $636,564 $631,564 $5,000
Nothing too see here
Time Warner #7 on her list of top donors; remember that the next time you watch CNN
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Fat Freddy
FUCK CANCER TOO !
Could it be possible that a group of backroom Republican diabolicals (yes, I'm making that a noun) got together and decided that if they could "convince" Trump to run, (which likely wasn't difficult to do) that it would make Rubio, Cruz and Kasich look "reasonable" by comparison?
Submitted for your approval, 2015 rolls over into............1968:
"Mister Nixon, I ain't a fixin'
To speak Spanish on a plane or polish off the Liberty Bell
I just want to sit here on the shelf
And watch you finish off the place by yourself
Please let me do what I wanna
Just lay around the house and smoke marijuana."
"“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
Submitted for your approval, 2015 rolls over into............1968:
"Mister Nixon, I ain't a fixin'
To speak Spanish on a plane or polish off the Liberty Bell
I just want to sit here on the shelf
And watch you finish off the place by yourself
Please let me do what I wanna
Just lay around the house and smoke marijuana."
"“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
olivianewtonjohn
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I dont think so. What @Snappo said and also because none of those candidates have that much money (relatively) backing them. If you said Hillary or Jeb Bush then that would be more likely
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/
grokit
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How about bill (he's actually rumored to be the impetus)
Also nice money link
grokit
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Why aren't GOP donors like the Kochs trying to destroy Trump?
The reason is even more pathetic than you thought
Charles Koch, David Koch, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove; the Club for Growth, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Americans for Prosperity and American Crossroads. These are some of the most influential persons and organizations not only in the world of American politics but in the world, full stop.
They have billions of dollars at their disposal, a sprawling network of dedicated activists, and voluminous experience running winning campaigns. They have founded empires, elected presidents, and fomented political revolutions. They are not only at home in the halls of power; they have built some of those very halls themselves.
By nearly any measure, they are titans. And according to recent reports from the Washington Post and the New York Times, they are all, to a man (and it’s all men), afraid of the same thing. They are afraid of being made fun of by Donald Trump. And, no, this is not a joke. Here’s how the Times puts it:
The reason is even more pathetic than you thought
Charles Koch, David Koch, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove; the Club for Growth, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Americans for Prosperity and American Crossroads. These are some of the most influential persons and organizations not only in the world of American politics but in the world, full stop.
They have billions of dollars at their disposal, a sprawling network of dedicated activists, and voluminous experience running winning campaigns. They have founded empires, elected presidents, and fomented political revolutions. They are not only at home in the halls of power; they have built some of those very halls themselves.
By nearly any measure, they are titans. And according to recent reports from the Washington Post and the New York Times, they are all, to a man (and it’s all men), afraid of the same thing. They are afraid of being made fun of by Donald Trump. And, no, this is not a joke. Here’s how the Times puts it:
Many leading Republican officials, strategists and donors now say they fear that Mr. Trump’s nomination would lead to an electoral wipeout, a sweeping defeat that could undo some of the gains Republicans have made in recent congressional, state and local elections … Some of the highest-ranking Republicans in Congress and some of the party’s wealthiest and most generous donors have balked at trying to take down Mr. Trump because they fear a public feud with the insult-spewing media figure.
