The Summit by Vapium (Formerly MARK 1)

^^Ha ha. Yes. Excellent point. Funny you mention it. I almost edited my post last night to include this very point, or was gonna search to find if anyone had already mentioned it.

I modded one of my mouthpieces to seal it off.

In my case, i cut a small piece of plastic from a writing pad cover and trimmed it to the size of the mouthpiece cover opening. I then used scotch tape to tape it in place. This plastic keeps the tape glue from touching the mouthpiece or being directly exposed to the vapour path/hot air.

The frosted scotch tape is almost exactly the same colour and texture as the mouthpiece so is virtually unnoticed.

I haven't done any tests, but the smell seems to become more noticable after removing the lid. That is, i switch the unit on with the lid on and pop the cap once it comes to heat, which is when i really notice the aroma. Pop the lid on after use to help keep smell in, plus it keeps the mouthpiece clean in your pocket.

Would be awesome if vapium included one of the mouthpiece protectors as a cover.

Edit- using the included dry bag also cuts down heaps on smell, but it is a bit bulkier in the pocket so not ideal

A easy new part to make Vapium...are you listening? Make a solid cap & TJK, Vapenvy and I would buy it. Well, at least I would.

Madcap79 said:

I believe I did try all combos. What's strange is, it dies by being plugged in. Then stays off for a week. Then magically starts working until it's time for a charge. Try charging and it kills it. So weird.

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I have exactly the same issue from last night, when i cleaned works again for a minute, and then comes crazy again. I write to the suport today.

To be honest, I can't like my Summit. It doesn't give me the results that I've wanted, no matter how I've used it. NO clouds.

Do you know how long it takes Vapium to answer the mails related with Support?

They did come out with that solar powered usb charger dock, though.

My replacement Summit is on the way! Woot!

Madcap79 said:

My replacement Summit is on the way! Woot!

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You are a lucky man!

VAPIUM told me that they can not provide warranty service beyond Canada or USA.

I recomend to all European people, DON'T BUY VAPIUM

UPDATE: THAT'S NOT TRUE, IT WAS A CONFUSION ON THEIR PART

blabau said:

I recomend to all European people, DON'T BUY VAPIUM

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I'm sorry you're having troubles, that seems to be fairly rare FWIW. That is most of us have no problems.

I get what you're thinking, but IMO it's off base. Who you buy it from is the key, not who made it. If you buy it from an EU (or any other) dealer, your claim is with them. You have no claim from Vapium directly unless you buy directly from them. Same for me in the US, the only enforceable warranty I have is with the guy I bought it from. He may, in turn, have recourse to back him up, but Vapium is not obligated to cover me directly (no contract there). Many makers volunteer to cover duds directly because it suits their business model (controlling costs or other factors).

As you know international shipping costs can be brutal, it's not 'right' to expect a maker to take that responsibility if the unit is marketed in such places. He has no control of that. In a fun extreme, shipping to the ISS is down to $35,000 a pound last I read?

Have you offered to pay shipping both ways? They might go for that (still their call) as that makes it 'revenue neutral' to them.

But if you (or anyone) buys from an EU source your warranty protection should come from there. No need to avoid an otherwise excellent product IMO.

Regards to all,

OF

Definitely a lot better portable vapes out there.

Crussell27 said:

Definitely a lot better portable vapes out there.

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What don't you like about it?

kapattack said:

What don't you like about it?

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I can think of a lot of things a guy might not like: Conduction, hard to clean the tube from bowl to MP, short battery life, cover not attached (latched), no place to attach a lanyard (no lie, guys complained about that....), non replaceable battery, and no 'buzz warning' when it times out (no kidding again.....) come to mind from earlier in the thread. Lots of excuses to buy something else?

'Other guy's dog'?

One thing sure, it's not your run of the mill vape, it's not a good session vape or for groups for instance. It's definitely 'not for everyone'. But for those of us who appreciate it's features there's added value there. It does some things much better than it's competitors. It's aimed, I think, at a 'niche market'.

Good to have lots of choices in the market.

Regards,

OF

OF said:

I'm sorry you're having troubles, that seems to be fairly rare FWIW. That is most of us have no problems.

I get what you're thinking, but IMO it's off base. Who you buy it from is the key, not who made it. If you buy it from an EU (or any other) dealer, your claim is with them. You have no claim from Vapium directly unless you buy directly from them. Same for me in the US, the only enforceable warranty I have is with the guy I bought it from. He may, in turn, have recourse to back him up, but Vapium is not obligated to cover me directly (no contract there). Many makers volunteer to cover duds directly because it suits their business model (controlling costs or other factors).

As you know international shipping costs can be brutal, it's not 'right' to expect a maker to take that responsibility if the unit is marketed in such places. He has no control of that. In a fun extreme, shipping to the ISS is down to $35,000 a pound last I read?

Have you offered to pay shipping both ways? They might go for that (still their call) as that makes it 'revenue neutral' to them.

But if you (or anyone) buys from an EU source your warranty protection should come from there. No need to avoid an otherwise excellent product IMO.

Regards to all,

OF

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You are right, but the customer CAN contatct with the manufacturer if wont and iniciate the warranty proces with them if he wont. And yes in this case Vapium had the obligation to iniciate the warranty proces.

The shipping cost is not than "brutal". I can send the device for 25€ in 2-3 weeks with tracking number.

Otherwise, Vapium sent me an email telling me that in fact they do have technical service to Europe and that everything has been some kind of confusion on their part. Im happy again

I just fixed the biggest problem I've had with the summit, inconsistent vapor. My trick was to use the spacer from my Indica. Grind well, and pack Full and then push the spacer open side down into the oven.

You are good to go. Be careful. That little piece of aluminum really gets hot. This should really improve your usage and make a very consistent, even, avbwithout any stirring etc.

Teaming

Gardenerjeff

Soon will have the Grasshopper, mates.

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OF

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Why are there four button tabs inside there? I only see three buttons. Is that why when you push the "Go Button" to turn it off sometimes it feels like its been pushed too far or like its on some kind of rocker?

VapeWiser said:

Why are there four button tabs inside there? I only see three buttons. Is that why when you push the "Go Button" to turn it off sometimes it feels like its been pushed too far or like its on some kind of rocker?

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The 'Go' button is large and therefore has two switches. They are wired in parallel ("or" function as opposed to "and") so it's not necessary to 'make' both. A single switch would not positively return such a large button I suspect, the alternative is a spring which adds another part to the top assembly and takes up more 'real estate' on the board. This is not an uncommon scheme.

OF

OF said:

I can think of a lot of things a guy might not like: Conduction, hard to clean the tube from bowl to MP, short battery life, cover not attached (latched), no place to attach a lanyard (no lie, guys complained about that....), non replaceable battery, and no 'buzz warning' when it times out (no kidding again.....) come to mind from earlier in the thread. Lots of excuses to buy something else?

'Other guy's dog'?

One thing sure, it's not your run of the mill vape, it's not a good session vape or for groups for instance. It's definitely 'not for everyone'. But for those of us who appreciate it's features there's added value there. It does some things much better than it's competitors. It's aimed, I think, at a 'niche market'.

Good to have lots of choices in the market.

Regards,

OF

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I love this thing more every damn day. I just hope the battery lasts me at least for a few years and I do understand why some wish it warned when going to standby. One wonders if this is it for Vapium or whether they address some thing more than just the USB cover. I don't think I'm in any niche market, but I know a good thing. And I'm glad I spent $5 - $10 more ( at the time - it's now much more than the regular Vapium) over the Grasshopper. I probably still wouldn't have one by now either. I don't mind the extra 20 seconds for warm up and I bet the grasshopper doesn't taste even a fraction as good as the Summit.
I would like to see some way to replace the battery, the standby alert thing as well as a solid cap to keep the smell down. Put me down as not caring about a spot to put it on a lanyard.

Hey @Sungodv , I think you and @OF capture my feelings about the summit and vaporizers in general. We all have specific needs/wants and those are never a 'one size fits all' equation.

There are things the summit completely nail for me, and aspects that other vaporizer do better. The summit has its well documented flaws, documented by fans of the device.

But right now, the summit's flaws are outweighed by the positives, for my particular needs.

Someday the perfect vaporizer for everybody will leave a factory. There will be much rejoicing!

And the next day someone will engineer an 'improvement'. Some will find the improvement a flaw.

And the cycle begins anew.

Yay, for individual preferences!

Happy to have a working unit again! I have been using for dog walks. Perfect!

Madcap that was super quick!!!!! You got that right away!!! For the people not getting vapor: did you try the flashlight method I mentioned? Hold a light up to your lips and then let is know if you're NOT getting vapor, because you'll probably find that you are just don't realize that you're vaping dry material and not vegetable glycerin it a liquid which gives you the huge noticeable clouds.

IF you're still NOT getting vapor, turn it the temp down. You're burning it up on the first heat up! I'll say this again, I use premium material and setting 6 or above just burns it all up. AGAIN, I am getting close to three full charges off of a single chamber fill starting at setting 2 and it doesn't seem like you're getting vapor but when shining a light towards your mouth while exhaling you're gonna be pleased to find wofting vapor pouring from your lungs! Also the sip it don't rip it doesn't apply to this vape, sometimes I won't get much and then take a more powerful draw for around 5 seconds or so and get very good results!

Also for people saying there's not a place for a lanyard?? There's a lanyard already attached to it wtf!!! Don't you notice the loop of plastic on the end of the device?!? There's plenty of room for an additional lanyard to be threaded through.

Go research vaping temps and you'll find 330-370 Fahrenheit is OPTIMAL, I go up to 390 on rare occasion and never go higher than 410, NEVER.

Sounds like people are putting that "bobby brown" in the summit and then complaining. And if you're using premium material you're burnin it up before you get a second draw!!! Try my methods and then come back and thank me!

It was quite quick! @PuffItUp has soon great service! I usually use my Summit on half orange or below. Mostly half orange or full green though.

To display vapor I've taken to using a good LED flashlight or the Range Hood light over the stove which serves two purposes, it shows the vapor and the fan carries away said expelled vapor. I still love the crap outta my Summit...just in case you were wondering. Very efficient device.

Hey Guys and gals,

I have read a good portion of this post for a few days and actually this is the reason why I bought the summit. I was out and rolled into a smoke shop to see if they had one so I can check out the size of it as well as a couple of other vapes. Saw the size of the summit and was sold. Since it's a new toy and my old vape broke on me, I went ahead and bought it from the shop. For a good week, everything about the summit was top notch to me. showed it to friends that were impressed with the size and quality of vapor. Then all of a sudden i began noticing a huge decrease in clouds. I changed out the materials and tried again. Like a few other people in this thread, the first cloud was nice but basically nothing afterwards. I cleaned my unit and tried it again and still the same thing. I contacted Vapium support about the issue and after a few troubleshooting emails, they told me they will hand it off to VapeWorld and they will take care of me. Here's my dilemma, I'm assuming since I bought it from a smoke shop, I have to send it in for them to look at it and then have it sent back. Usually, if I need something replaced, the company will send a new one and I return the old item back to them. Anyway, the time it will take for them to receive it and with the holidays coming up, I'm positive 3-4 weeks will pass before I get anything back. Which is not good. Does anyone have any type of advice or suggestion that will help me get through the holiday season? My only option right now would be to buy another vape I had on my list (which my budget will hate) and whenever I get the summit back, sell one of them.

I really liked the summit when it was working like a champ.

I guess my moral to the story for anyone reading this, DO NOT BUY FROM SMOKE SHOPS

Hus said:

I contacted Vapium support about the issue and after a few troubleshooting emails, they told me they will hand it off to VapeWorld and they will take care of me. Here's my dilemma, I'm assuming since I bought it from a smoke shop, I have to send it in for them to look at it and then have it sent back. Usually, if I need something replaced, the company will send a new one and I return the old item back to them.

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First off, howdy and welcome to the fun. You've already figured out Summit is a good tool, or can be, hopefully yours will get sorted out.

Legally the only guy you have a relationship (contract) with is the Smoke Shop. That's where money changed hands. He, in turn from the Distributor and so on. When you order directly the maker is responsible since you gave him money (meaning there's a contract). Many makers understand they can (and usually are) ultimately going to have get involved have a plan. In this case it sounds like their plan is go "to VapeWorld and they will take care of me", or rather you? In the condition you describe I'd expect no problems past the holiday shipping delays. You're time estimate is realistic I think.

As to what to do to keep yourself amused, deploy your backup of course. Every serious vaper needs a solid backup for just this reason. Zig-Zags and fire are not an acceptable fall back position. Mission critical gear needs a backup. Your thought to get one now is, I think, a good one. It's doubly unfortunate that it comes on top of holiday expenses. And of course, the Black Friday sales are basically gone. No offense but your timing needs some work, for sure I'm not asking you to buy me any lottery tickets.......

In the $100 or less category MFLB, VG, Imag+, and Vapman are amongst the group I'd suggest. With the exception of Imag+ all have a long history of happy owners. Imag+ is a great 'bang for the buck' deal, a definitely serious performer IMO and mine was a little over fifty bucks. Poke around a bit, try to pick something you'll enjoy using from time to time and contact VapeWorld and see what the deal is. It's very likely they swap them out after a check out. The sooner you start that process, the sooner it gets completed. Letting it go a week and running into Christmas might be a serious mistake.

Good luck with it.

OF