The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Alan Partridge said:

No warpage on my year old CU, soaked for an hour each cleaning (and once soaked for a whole lot longer than that). I am very skeptical about the idea it can cause warpage, it hasn't in my experience and there are other factors that could contribute.

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What other factors would contribute to warping? This has become a fairly major issue as I don't want to keep buying CU's.

biohacker said:

Yeah no kidding, isn't there like toxic formaldehyde in those magic erasers?

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No there isn't, they do have formaldehyde-melamine-sodium bisulfite copolymer but just because it has it in the name doesn't mean it's formaldehyde, in the same way sodium chloride (salt) is safe but sodium is not.

You still don't want to inhale it though, for the same reasons you don't want to inhale your bathroom sponge.

dirtdragon said:

What other factors would contribute to warping? This has become a fairly major issue as I don't want to keep buying CU's.

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uh, heat?
But, yes, they caution about not soaking in iso for 'too long'. Gotta respect that from the Makers!

vapviking said:

uh, heat?
But, yes, they caution about not soaking in iso for 'too long'. Gotta respect that from the Makers!

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I rarely go over 380F so if it's the heat I would think more people would have a problem. I'm starting to think many people have the same issue but don't realize it.

vapviking said:

@elmomuzz, I cut apart my muzzmod that had epoxy (jenn weld, original) failure (I'll call it that for now). I was very surprised to see oil completely covering the flat mating surfaces of the glass and plastic. The joint between them was just afloat in oil, like some kind of capillary action draws it in there. I had taken care to get the surfaces to match, even though these are not the actual glue surfaces. The oil found its way under, then a small opening (epoxy had 'peeled away' from glass) and leaked out.

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I haven't made my muzzmods yet (still looking for proper glass adapter) but I'm considering a hybrid method of mostly silicone with 3 or 4 dabs of JBWeld around the outer perimeter. Silicone is pure and slightly flexible for heat/cool cycling. Maybe a thin donut of silicone that the adapter sits on plus 4 dabs of JBWeld on the outer edge of the glass.
The silicone would be mostly for a complete airtight seal and the JB for holding power.

dirtdragon said:

I rarely go over 380F so if it's the heat I would think more people would have a problem. I'm starting to think many people have the same issue but don't realize it.

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I give the c/u the suction/leakage test every time it gets cleaned & re-assembled. SOP.

dirtdragon said:

What other factors would contribute to warping? This has become a fairly major issue as I don't want to keep buying CU's.

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We have multiple reports of warpage after too-long iso soaks. While correlation doesn't equal causation, I'm pretty wary of leaving those plastic parts too long in alcohol. Maybe it's not a problem, but the manufacturer warns against it, I know two folks whose CUs were ruined by this, and again....what's the upside? 30 minutes should be more than sufficient to remove the toughest sticky bits. Why risk damage just to leave it soaking longer?

mitchgo61 said:

Why risk damage just to leave it soaking longer?

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X2. No need to chance doing an hour soak in ISO.
Shorter time OR try some PBW powdered brewery wash....

I never cleaned my cooling unit with ISO, I only scrape out reclaim with a q tip once a week of everyday vaping. Also I switch the mesh in the CU every 4-6 weeks.



I guess I found the holy lwien grail of low consumption with the mighty. My latest plan includes vaping less than 20mg of weed for 1 inhale at low temperature, like 155°C. One puff, back in the box it is. Makes me wonder how long a g will last if I'd do just one puff per day instead of several 1-puff-sessions per day

Call me crazy but I microwave about 1/2 cup iso in a solo cup. It will be boiling. I drop in my cu parts and swish it around for about 30 seconds. Then I rinse the pieces with hot water. They come out looking like new with very little effort. But again I'm crazy.

uhranium said:

I guess I found the holy lwien grail of low consumption with the mighty. My latest plan includes vaping less than 20mg of weed for 1 inhale at low temperature, like 155°C. One puff, back in the box it is. Makes me wonder how long a g will last if I'd do just one puff per day instead of several 1-puff-sessions per day

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I think you mean one hit loading .02g at a time. That's great if you can get your desired effect from such a small amount. May I ask why you consume cannabis? To get high like a recreational user? To battle pain or nausea? For anxiety, insomnia or depression?

Personally, I use cannabis for the overall euphoric feeling as well as to help with pain relief, lessen anxiety and fight insomnia. In social situations I tend to consume more and get extremely medicated ( a recreational type high).

What I'm trying to say is using cannabis shouldn't be a contest on who can consume the lowest amount. Use the amount that works for you weather you're a recreational or medical user. For me, I don't even feel the effects of one or two hits. My typical session is .2g. However, if you can get where you need to be on .02g then that's great and power to you!!

It's like if I want to have a drink at a bar, I don't order one fourth of a shot. I may have two drinks in order to feel relaxed and have a mild alcohol buzz. Besides that the bartender may look at you a little strangely if you ordered one fourth of a shot of tequila. I wonder if you'd get a discount hahaha..

Also, if you only need to consume .02g at a time, I think they're are many vapes out there that should be much superior to the Mighty for micro doses....

Edit: BTW, there is a thread on this forum on micro dosing which may be helpful. On that thread some experienced members recommend the best vapes on the market for micro dosing and techniques for using small amounts..

dirtdragon said:

What other factors would contribute to warping? This has become a fairly major issue as I don't want to keep buying CU's.

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I don't know All I know is that hours and hours of ISO soaking has had no ill affects on my CU, or even the o rings. I do it for the full hour as it makes getting all the resin off a lot easier compared to 30 mins. I have 3 CUs altogether, one is completely unused and you can't tell the difference between that and the year old one.

biohacker said:

how do you do that? with the liquid pad I assume and max temp? Do you get one decent rip?

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I was using pad and max temp yes, and it was a decent rip, but I am now trying out the same thing with low temperature, where you can actually get more hits out of the same amount. It is not a rip, but it is decent, oh yeah..

Chill Dude said:

I think you mean one hit loading .02g at a time.

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One hit where there is about .02 in the chamber. After one hit, I can reheat the same stuff for another singular hit some time later.

That's great if you can get your desired effect from such a small amount.

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I don't even know what my desired effects are, but my desire to vape more goes does by a big margin by starting with a single puff rather than a whole session

May I ask why you consume cannabis? To get high like a recreational user? To battle pain or nausea? For anxiety, insomnia or depression?

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While I have stuff that def benefit from weed (headaches, skin problems, back pain) it's basically just to silence my craving for some time

What I'm trying to say is using cannabis shouldn't be a contest on who can consume the lowest amount.

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Tell that my bank account.

Use the amount that works for you weather you're a recreational or medical user. For me, I don't even feel the effects of one or two hits.

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I definitely do, it's 100 minutes ago that I had my last single puff and I still can say, I am not sober right now.

My typical session is .2g. However, if you can get where you need to be on .02g then that's great and power to you!!

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My typical usage was .18 the last days. Bought 1.5g on a saturday and went on a whole week with it.

It's like if I want to have a drink at a bar, I don't order one fourth of a shot.

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Yeah, I didn't pay for a drink in a bar since ever. I sometimes pay the bartender by letting him vape at my place for the welfare'd drinks, but that's it. Can't pay those prices.

Also, if you only need to consume .02g at a time, I think they're are many vapes out there that should be much superior to the Mighty for micro doses....

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VAS does nothing to me. The equal extraction of the mighty, paired with super fast heating for hits that don't require a shitload of time, as well as the limiting of the chamber with the liquid pad and the reclaim ease, combined with this incredible taste and sturdiness make it top1 vape for my actual usage.

Edit: BTW, there is a thread on this forum on micro dosing which may be helpful. On that thread some experienced members recommend the best vapes on the market for micro dosing and techniques for using small amounts..

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It's not like I'd spend money for another vape right now unless my Mighty breaks down after the 2yr guarantee and they introduce a crafty with display or something like that.

@uhranium yeah, I hear ya. I wasn't thinking of it from a financial perspective...and I agree, if you're loving the Mighty for micro doses then obviously no need to change..Getting a bartender to barter drinks for a vape session at your home is a nice play.. If I tried that in California, the bartender would think I'm trying to hit on him or I'm a serial killer or something and tell me to fuck off LOL...

elmomuzz said:

Call me crazy but I microwave about 1/2 cup iso in a solo cup. It will be boiling. I drop in my cu parts and swish it around for about 30 seconds. Then I rinse the pieces with hot water. They come out looking like new with very little effort. But again I'm crazy.

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Yes you are!
Stop boiling ISO, we want you to muzz-mod many other vapes to come

So yeah... this happened a couple weeks back and am thankful that my Mighty is still in working condition. I like to vape when I'm doing my business in the washroom and I accidentally dropped my Mighty in the toilet (this happened before my pooping session of course or I would've cried). Luckily, only the top half of the unit was submerged in water (The CU) and as soon as it fell in, I took it out asap and turned the device off. I quickly disassembled everything and worried that the water leaked into the battery. Weeks later... My Mighty is still working like a champ! I dodged a bullet there... thank God!

WakeAndVape said:

That seems like a bad idea (inadvertently cleaning the screen with the magic eraser) because you don't want eraser particles in the vape, running it over the screen breaks off particles like a fine cheese grater...of your worried about bending the screen, once you remove it, flatten it between two quarters and it will be like new.

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Tx for the care man. I did clean my oven upside down and did a few min of burnoff after just in case.

@biohacker It is not a toxic formalxxx compound. Here is the complete explanation http://www.davidsuzuki.org/what-you...s-mr-clean-magic-eraser-contain-formaldehyde/

I know, I was just stating it to make a point, and exaggerated intentionally. I personally don't like to use anything but ISO. I'd use the eraser (I do use them for my bathtub!), but definitely try to wipe away any remains/rinse whatever.

Chill Dude said:

@uhranium Getting a bartender to barter drinks for a vape session at your home is a nice play.. If I tried that in California, the bartender would think I'm trying to hit on him or I'm a serial killer or something and tell me to fuck off LOL...

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He's a friend of mine, so it's not as odd as it sounds, lol.


I just got myself a nice evening buzz by hitting medium old ABV mixed with a pinch of weed, then a filling chamber full of old reclaim q-tips - which I wanted to throw away basically, don't know where that cloud came from - , then wiped the inside of my cooling unit with a screwdriver for a cute little amount of reclaim oil and wiped it off at the liquid pad, and put that on top of a fresh 0.02g load of weed. Whew.

So there's been a lot of talk about cleaning. I personally think the cleaning itself is fairly easy. However, I have a very hard time removing the top cap. ya know, the piece that has the Mighty logo on it.. In fact, one time I had such a hard time removing it that it actually snapped a small piece of plastic off when I finally pryed it loose. Anyone else have this problem?

I also find that when replacing the top screen that I can't get it to seat properly. I mean it covers the area, but it is kind of moveable and lays loosely on top. It doesn't seem like there is a grove to hold the screen in place. Maybe the replacement screens are a little too big..IDK

Chill Dude said:

I have a very hard time removing the top cap. ya know, the piece that has the Mighty logo on it..

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I dont bother to remove the hologram for cleaning anymore but if you start with the right side of the hologram push it toward the left side while lifting the left side it should come off fairly easy.

Chill Dude said:

I also find that when replacing the top screen that I can't get it to seat properly

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Its probably fine as is but if you put slight pressure on the screen with your finger and twist the screen should turn with your finger not be stationary. I always bend the screen slightly and put in with the bend facing the oven. I then put one side in at a time and lastly push the bend toward the CU to make the screen flat again.

skyvaper said:

I dont bother to remove the hologram for cleaning anymore but if you start with the right side of the hologram push it toward the left side while lifting the left side it should come off fairly easy.

Its probably fine as is but if you put slight pressure on the screen with your finger and twist the screen should turn with your finger not be stationary. I always bend the screen slightly and put in with the bend facing the oven. I then put one side in at a time and lastly push the bend toward the CU to make the screen flat again.

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Thanks for the response..okay, I'll try your method when I get home to see if it comes off easier that way. I was just trying to lift one side without pushing it toward the lifted side concurrently. Hmm, if you don't remove the top cap, then how do you clean the cooling unit? They say not to soak the top cap in ISO.

As to the top screen, I was thinking it was supposed to seat tightly within the groove and not move. Good to know it sits a little loosely and as you say can twist it with your finger ....so I think it's correct then..

Chill Dude said:

Hmm, if you don't remove the top cap, then how do you clean the cooling unit?

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Exactly which part of the CU do you mean? I thought you meant the piece that slides to unlock the CU that has the hologram. Did you mean how to get the CU in two main pieces?

Chill Dude said:

Thanks for the response..okay, I'll try your method when I get home to see if it comes off easier that way. I was just trying to lift one side without pushing it toward the lifted side concurrently. Hmm, if you don't remove the top cap, then how do you clean the cooling unit? They say not to soak the top cap in ISO...

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I don't remove my hologram/slider piece either...just slide it open, pull apart the CU, soak those two pieces along with the mouthpiece, and go from there.

I think the issue is the hologram can become damaged from a too-long iso soak. But I've never seen any issues with it myself.

skyvaper said:

Exactly which part of the CU do you mean? I thought you meant the piece that slides to unlock the CU that has the hologram. Did you mean how to get the CU in two main pieces?

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I was referring to the small piece with the hologram. You open the CU into two pieces and one of the pieces has the hologram top cap attached. I was asking if it's okay to soak the half with the hologram cap attached in ISO. That would be great due to the fact the top cap can be somewhat difficult to remove IMO..

According to @mitchgo61 you can soak the hologram slider, but should limit The time to avoid damage and fading and such.