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The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

vapviking

Old & In the Way
I contacted the department of Fair Trading specifically about the Mighty vapouriser and got a response in writing from them that the batteries are covered under the two year warranty if the unit is sold in Australia. I don't deal with Bickel and Storz. I deal directly with my retailer.
Thank you.
I feel like I should I order my next Mighty from an Australian retailer! A couple of shipping round-trips might cost less than a BJ. (NO, that's 'battery job')!!!!

I notice you always refer to them as Bickel & Storz, Is that just what they go by in Australia?

Maybe it's a Southern Hemisphere thing, like water spinning the other way down the drain?

Excuse the levity, but I get a little punchy when awake & baked well before the butt crack of dawn.
 

Delta3DStudios

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Morning!

Just wanted to share that after months of tweaking and testing, my Mighty CU-Mod SonG is finished and has been published to my store. No need to destroy or modify your Mighty's Cooling Unit - simply remove the top half of your cooling unit and replace with my CU-Mod!

Works great with water, or if you're adventurous, try using the SonG as a direct draw mouthpiece to bypass the cooling unit completely!

 
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CL52613

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Amen, I don't want to say that people aren't treating their products with the proper care, but, I do find it strange when people post essentially: "Hey, here's Unit 1 with a cracked top!, Hey, here's Unit 2 a month or two later with a cracked top! Here's Unit 3, fucking S&B, another cracked top!" :lol:

Unit 1 right here, no cracks :o no problems at all in terms of the casing. 6 months so I'm not quite as long as some of you.

I'd say the newer casing may potentially be more prone to cracking/shearing off, but to be honest, I really don't know because 6 months ago I was very skeptical to buy the unit because everyone was posting about how it was so prone to needing replaced or repaired, namely because of cracked tops/fins....so the problems persisted through model variations.

Do you guy's reverse the direction of your CU? I always put mine on so the mouthpiece is on the right of the unit. Do you not do 2 explicit motions, push the cooling unit down, and then twist? I just find it hard to believe that my unit is still in basically tip top shape, the battery has degraded just a bit so I can't get 7-8 bowls I get 6-7 depending on temps.

Who knows, maybe S&B really hit their stride in the 12xxx range :rolleyes: but like I said I just am really surprised mine is still working and aesthetically intact, while many of you have so many problems.

Edit: I also showed my weedman this thing, we were using it while we were playing NBA 2k, and I noticed at one point he had both hands on the controller, but I just passed him the vape....he had it dangling out of his mouth by the mouthpiece while he was shooting FTs.... I yelled at him to never do that LOL, but if my plastic was shoddy/wasted away, I do feel like it would have broke right there with the way he had it in his mouth, with the torque.

All of the complaint about the mighty and ive had mine going on 11 months and had one return so far and if something happen to my mighty i would replace in a second..go and soend 250 on another portable and then complain about no visible vapor or poor taste and so forth..ive seen some of these broken mightys and my god these people arent always taking the best care of their 400 dollar product..its like throwing your 400 dollar flatscreen in the bed of your truck and going for a ride..you gotta take care if stuff..this is 2015 and to be honest shit just isnt made to last always..compare stuff from now to the days of yore..lol..
It is great your Mighty is working well after 11 months, but my question is why did you have to return your unit? A 2 year warranty and you have had to replace yours once in only 11 months, and that is supposed to be an endorsement for S&B built quality. It is also not very ethical to change the way the unit functions without notifying the owner of this intention prior to making the change. I returned my unit because batteries were not charging properly after only 5 months. I did not ask for a new outer shell, mine was in perfect condition, and I did not ask for the reprogramming. The machine was working fine other than the battery issue. Now it overheats, part of the reprogramming, and batteries barely last for 3 sessions. Sorry I just cannot understand how having to go through the hassle of returning your $400.00 machine in less than one year is satisfactory.
 
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subway13029

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Ive also had to return a 700 dollar apple ipad so what is your point?? For your info my unit wasnt vibrating and the lcd would short out occasionally..and yeah i did send it in and it runs like a beast as have many thousands others..and there have been problems as well but my question and statement was that ive seen some.of these units and they were trashed and i just wonder how they are treated..obviously not sayi g everyone mistreats their vapes but it has happened..im just providing some advice to new people who are being scared off of this siper powerful vape that if it broke and i had bo warranty..i would buy another. It works that good!!
 

Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
@Ratchett those look awesome! I'm definitely going to have to pick up one of those. Could we get a photo of the bottom if you wouldn't mind?
Pictures didn't do a good job showing the inside, so here's a 3D rendering of the finished part, as you can see the inside of my adapter were designed to fill the void caused by half of the cooling unit's design. Early prototypes showed this was necessary for the adapter to 'sit' properly
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sativasam

NO SMOKING
I have recently been lucky enough to own a Mighty. I have only been using it for 2 weeks.
I have owned an MFLB and Volcano for 3 years.

I spent a long time reading all the reviews about broken Mighty (and its sibling) units. This had me considering wether or not to purchase a Mighty as reliability is an important character when purchasing a vaporiser for me. I feel this overshadows much of what could be said about the mighty and its little brother. And it is a pity because it performs amazingly well. Yes I wish the warranty was longer than 2 years, but to be honest anyone thinking of getting one shouldn't think twice. My friend has a Pax and he is amazed at the quality of what the Mighty produces. And it performs to a standard that is hard to comprehend. It vapes the 'herb' so evenly that there is no need to turn the material over in the bowl, EVER. The filling tool makes life really easy and I never waste any 'herbs'. I love the vibration feature, and the temp dial is great for me as I like to vape at lower temps such as 160-170c. Heat up time is quick and it is also easy to clean. I usually get 3 bowls/sessions before I have to recharge the battery, which is usually my days worth and so I put it on charge before I go to bed.

My first thoughts on the device were that it appears in photographs to be more durable than it is; it kind of looks like Action Mans radio, but you really wouldn't want to drop this on a hard floor such as the pavement or your kitchen floor. It would crack easily. I also would not want liquids anywhere near my Mighty! I say this not as a negative point, but more to highlight the fact that the Mighty is a high tech device, and I can see how some units might break. Essentially it is an oven that heats up to 210 degrees Centigrade, that fits in your pocket with the ability to produce the best portable vapour known to man. It is not a toy. And yes it does fit in your pocket unless you are a girl or a hipster that wears skintight jeans.

I bought the mighty for taking over to friends houses or to the park, and I think its good for this purpose. I hear people say that it isn't really portable; and I understand it is not the size of an E-cig or a unit such as the pax; but personally if I was on a busy high street and I wanted to get high with my Mighty, I would just find a bench or somewhere to sit on a side road that was a little discreet. Which is no different to what I would do if I was going to roll and smoke a doobie the traditional way. (Note to reader: I do not smoke doobies anymore. Combusting is soooo Stone Age )

The biggest surprise for me after having only used an MFLB and Volcano (which both have 0% draw resistance) was the Mighty's draw resistance. My lungs found/find the draw resistance on the Mighty quite hard work considering, but am getting used to it now. I can't imagine what the resistance must be like on the Pax or the Firefly. When reading the manual that comes with the Mighty it states to only inhale half of what you would normally. I find this useful as then I don't fight the draw resistance as much, and generally take things a bit slower.

All in all I am very happy with my unit. There is no messing around. I grind, I pack, I vape. Very efficient, very clean. I'm sure like all electrical products it will have its time. If I paid for 2 years so be it. I hope it will be more.
 

Chill Dude

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The biggest surprise for me after having only used an MFLB and Volcano (which both have 0% draw resistance) was the Mighty's draw resistance. My lungs found/find the draw resistance on the Mighty quite hard work considering, but am getting used to it now. I can't imagine what the resistance must be like on the Pax or the Firefly. When reading the manual that comes with the Mighty it states to only inhale half of what you would normally. I find this useful as then I don't fight the draw resistance as much, and generally take things a bit slower.

Nice to hear that the Mighty is meeting your expectations. I've had mine for two weeks as well and for me, the Mighty is the best performing portable I've ever owned!

I'm a little baffled that you're finding draw resistance with the unit. My Solo and Pax 2 definately have draw resistance, but I find the Mighty to have no resistance at all. Even when I pack the bowl super tight...still no resistance. That's one of the best feature of the Mighty IMO..
 

sativasam

NO SMOKING
I'm a little baffled that you're finding draw resistance with the unit. My Solo and Pax 2 definately have draw resistance, but I find the Mighty to have no resistance at all. Even when I pack the bowl super tight...still no resistance. That's one of the best feature of the Mighty IMO..

Have you used a Volcano? When you say "no resistance", do you mean like using a volcano? Which I would compare to breathing fresh air.
 
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HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
Very cool @Ratchett , how does it attach? Does it just snap on like the CU, I assume you have those fins matching those on the CU? Last thing I want is to use it and for my vape to look like that one guys :lol: it looks tight though, very nice
 

Chill Dude

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Have you used a Volcano? When you say "no resistance", do you mean like using a volcano? Which I would compare to breathing fresh air.

No, I've never used a Volcano. My comparisons only come from my experience with other portables . Maybe if I tried the Volcano I would acknowledge that the Mighty does have some draw resistance haha..
 
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biohacker

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and the temp dial is great for me as I like to vape at lower temps such as 160-170c. Heat up time is quick and it is also easy to clean. I usually get 3 bowls/sessions before I have to recharge the battery

You only vape at 160-170 and you ONLY get 3 bowls/sessions? You should EASILY be getting TWICE that, if not more. Unless this new firmware is worse than the older one...I was able to get 6 sessions easily, even with high temperatures.

My lungs found/find the draw resistance on the Mighty quite hard work considering, but am getting used to it now

Mighty draw resistance? Maybe if you're packing too tight....the only times I felt resistance was overpacking, or using the fine screen in the CU. There definitely isn't "no resistance" but compared to everything else out there, it's pretty wide open, like the Crafty.

No, I've never used a Volcano. My comparisons only come from my experience with other portables . Maybe if I tried the Volcano I would acknowledge that the Mighty does have some draw resistance haha..

How can he even compare vaping out of a BAG, to vaping out of a VAPORIZER? I should hope there would be no resistance with a bag! I think the Plenty VS Mighty comparison would be more suitable, and they are both quite similar and comfortable.
 
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I have recently been lucky enough to own a Mighty. I have only been using it for 2 weeks.
I have owned an MFLB and Volcano for 3 years.

I spent a long time reading all the reviews about broken Mighty (and its sibling) units. This had me considering wether or not to purchase a Mighty as reliability is an important character when purchasing a vaporiser for me. I feel this overshadows much of what could be said about the mighty and its little brother. And it is a pity because it performs amazingly well. Yes I wish the warranty was longer than 2 years, but to be honest anyone thinking of getting one shouldn't think twice. My friend has a Pax and he is amazed at the quality of what the Mighty produces. And it performs to a standard that is hard to comprehend. It vapes the 'herb' so evenly that there is no need to turn the material over in the bowl, EVER. The filling tool makes life really easy and I never waste any 'herbs'. I love the vibration feature, and the temp dial is great for me as I like to vape at lower temps such as 160-170c. Heat up time is quick and it is also easy to clean. I usually get 3 bowls/sessions before I have to recharge the battery, which is usually my days worth and so I put it on charge before I go to bed.

My first thoughts on the device were that it appears in photographs to be more durable than it is; it kind of looks like Action Mans radio, but you really wouldn't want to drop this on a hard floor such as the pavement or your kitchen floor. It would crack easily. I also would not want liquids anywhere near my Mighty! I say this not as a negative point, but more to highlight the fact that the Mighty is a high tech device, and I can see how some units might break. Essentially it is an oven that heats up to 210 degrees Centigrade, that fits in your pocket with the ability to produce the best portable vapour known to man. It is not a toy. And yes it does fit in your pocket unless you are a girl or a hipster that wears skintight jeans.

I bought the mighty for taking over to friends houses or to the park, and I think its good for this purpose. I hear people say that it isn't really portable; and I understand it is not the size of an E-cig or a unit such as the pax; but personally if I was on a busy high street and I wanted to get high with my Mighty, I would just find a bench or somewhere to sit on a side road that was a little discreet. Which is no different to what I would do if I was going to roll and smoke a doobie the traditional way. (Note to reader: I do not smoke doobies anymore. Combusting is soooo Stone Age )

The biggest surprise for me after having only used an MFLB and Volcano (which both have 0% draw resistance) was the Mighty's draw resistance. My lungs found/find the draw resistance on the Mighty quite hard work considering, but am getting used to it now. I can't imagine what the resistance must be like on the Pax or the Firefly. When reading the manual that comes with the Mighty it states to only inhale half of what you would normally. I find this useful as then I don't fight the draw resistance as much, and generally take things a bit slower.

All in all I am very happy with my unit. There is no messing around. I grind, I pack, I vape. Very efficient, very clean. I'm sure like all electrical products it will have its time. If I paid for 2 years so be it. I hope it will be more.
Where did you buy it from? It's possible that you got a counterfeit.
 
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sativasam

NO SMOKING
You only vape at 160-170 and you ONLY get 3 bowls/sessions? You should EASILY be getting TWICE that, if not more. Unless this new firmware is worse than the older one...I was able to get 6 sessions easily, even with high temperatures.

I was pretty stoned last night and actually now thinking about it, the Mighty lasts me 2 days, with 3 bowls each day. I use one bar of battery per session.

Mighty draw resistance? Maybe if you're packing too tight....the only times I felt resistance was overpacking, or using the fine screen in the CU. There definitely isn't "no resistance" but compared to everything else out there, it's pretty wide open, like the Crafty.

I think sometimes I may be packing to tight, as some bowls are easier than others. I actually have weak lungs for various reasons. This is the why I vape rather than smoke. I think you are understanding me wrong; I don't find every draw on the Mighty to be a struggle. I find sometimes finishing a whole bowl my lungs have to work, COMPARED with a Volcano, which I would compare resistance to breathing a breath of fresh air.

How can he even compare vaping out of a BAG, to vaping out of a VAPORIZER? I should hope there would be in resistance with a bag! I think the Plenty VS Mighty comparison would be more suitable, and they are both quite similar and comfortable.

Well I just did compare Vaping out of a bag to a vaporiser. I don't see how one is unable to compare these. The comparison is about the difference between 0% draw resistance VS a unit that has some draw resistance. There is no resistance with a Volcano bag. There is some with the Mighty in comparison. Having only used a Volcano or MFLB I personally notice the draw resistance on the Mighty. Yes I can take long draws on the Mighty; but there IS some draw resistance. I am comparing the vapes I have tried. Which as stated are the MFLB, Volcano, and Mighty.

Where did you buy it from? It's possible that you got a counterfeit.

I can see how after saying my unit lasts 3 bowls you may ask if my unit is fake. As clarified above my unit actually lasts 6 bowls. I bought it from a reputable retailer. I have seen images of fakes. And mine is not. My Mighty Works amazingly well.
 
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Delta3DStudios

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Very cool @Ratchett , how does it attach? Does it just snap on like the CU, I assume you have those fins matching those on the CU? Last thing I want is to use it and for my vape to look like that one guys :lol: it looks tight though, very nice

It's a friction fitting, slides over the cooling unit and the silicone makes an air-tight seal with the large blue O-Ring.

Sadly I wasn't able to mimic the exterior appearance of the original cooling unit, it's glossy finish does contrast against the original design. :\

How does the screen fit into the new ratchet mod? Could we see a picture? Thanks! :)
Unfortunately I've already shipped my loaner Mighty back to it's rightful owner, but @MinnBobber beat me to it - the bottom half of your cooling unit remains in place. Your oven compartment will not be affected whatsoever. "If you like your screen, you can keep your screen!" :lol:
 
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Well I just did compare Vaping out of a bag to a vaporiser. I don't see how one is unable to compare these. The comparison is about the difference between 0% draw resistance VS a unit that has some draw resistance. There is no resistance with a Volcano bag. There is some with the Mighty in comparison. Having only used a Volcano or MFLB I personally notice the draw resistance on the Mighty. Yes I can take long draws on the Mighty; but there IS some draw resistance. I am comparing the vapes I have tried. Which as stated are the MFLB, Volcano, and Mighty.

You missed my point. Obviously a bag has no resistance (other than the opening), my quote had a typo where "in" should be "no". Anyways, as we were...

I think it's undisputed that it can be said that the Mighty has very little to no draw restriction if used as intended. In fact, that is one reason I love it - rachett's song adapter, max temp, and draw as hard as you like and mimic the water bong snap experience! Flavour and massive thick potent vapour.

And it only takes a minute to get that!
 
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sativasam

NO SMOKING
You missed my point. Obviously a bag has no resistance (other than the opening), my quote had a typo where "in" should be "no". Anyways, as we were...

I think it's undisputed that it can be said that the Mighty has very little to no draw restriction if used as intended. In fact, that is one reason I love it - rachett's song adapter, max temp, and draw as hard as you like and mimic the water bong snap experience! Flavour and massive thick potent vapour.

And it only takes a minute to get that!

Your point was that the Mighty is similar to the Plenty. I would not know as I have not used a Plenty.

I take 'no restriction' to mean 0% draw resistance, like inhaling from a bag. This is obviously not the case with a Mighty. There is SOME resistance. My lungs PERSONALLY are not very strong, so when Im finishing a bowl and trying to get the most out of it, I can feel my lungs working hard COMPARED to inhaling from a bag. The Mighty may have very little draw resistance, but it still has draw resistance. The volcano blows the hot air for you, whereas with the Mighty my lungs are essentially doing this work. At lower temperatures this means more work for my lungs. Its not a big deal, especially after I followed the advice in the manual and only fill my lungs half way, rather than max capacity. If I try to fill my lungs to max capacity with every drag than by the end of a session I can feel the pressure on my lungs. Anyway I've made my point. Which is that there is SOME draw resistance. And I PERSONALLY notice it. This is my opinion. My unit is not faulty. I love my Mighty it works amazingly well. I will talk of this no more. Thank you. :doh:
 
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Justpassedu

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Your point was that the Mighty is similar to the Crafty?

I take 'no restriction' to mean 0% draw resistance, like inhaling from a bag. This is obviously not the case with a Mighty. There is SOME resistance. My lungs PERSONALLY are not very strong, so when Im finishing a bowl and trying to get the most out of it, I can feel my lungs working hard COMPARED to inhaling from a bag. The Mighty may have very little draw resistance, but it still has draw resistance. The volcano blows the hot air for you, whereas with the Mighty my lungs are essentially doing this work. At lower temperatures this means more work for my lungs. Its not a big deal, especially after I followed the advice in the manual and only fill my lungs half way, rather than max capacity. If I try to fill my lungs to max capacity with every drag than by the end of a session I can feel the pressure on my lungs. Anyway I've made my point. Which is that there is SOME draw resistance. And I PERSONALLY notice it. This is my opinion. My unit is not faulty. I love my Mighty it works amazingly well. I will talk of this no more. Thank you. :doh:
I notice the same as you with my lungs , this is mostly bc the mighty is a heavy hitter and has no draw resistance . I can pack my oven as tight as it can be packed and still have no draw resistance. I have tried many vapes and own a bunch , the mighty is as free flowing as it gets imo. I would try your sessions at a much lower temp and see how that works for you.
 

sativasam

NO SMOKING
I notice the same as you with my lungs , this is mostly bc the mighty is a heavy hitter and has no draw resistance . I can pack my oven as tight as it can be packed and still have no draw resistance. I have tried many vapes and own a bunch , the mighty is as free flowing as it gets imo. I would try your sessions at a much lower temp and see how that works for you.
I didnt say I had lung irritation from hot vapour. I said "If I try to fill my lungs to max capacity with every drag than by the end of a session I can feel the pressure on my lungs." Pressure as in from the resistance. You can not say that inhaling from a mighty 10 times, to maximum lung capacity, is as easy as inhaling 10 times to max lung capacity with a Volcano bag can you? Turning down the heat will help with irritation of the lungs and throat. It will not help with draw resistance. Not that I need any help, as it is not problem. My Mighty's draw resistance is very low, but because of my weak lungs I personally notice it 'sometimes' when I hit it 'hard' consistently.
 
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whatitdew

Vapes R Great
Well spent a nice chunk of change the last few days.

Got a mighty and wear and tear kit coming
Scooped up a nice worked Ben Wilson mini inline tube for a crazy steal randomly from a headshop in San Diego
Stocked up on flowers, some organic Chemo, bubbaOG and super lemon Kush
Now just waiting for Black Friday to buy the new water tool adapter and mini stand from ratchet

Gotta love PayPal and the Internet in this day and age, makes it too easy!

waiting patiently for the mighty, should have it by Wednesday I hope. Dunno why but sometimes my orders from PIU take an extra week than usual. They seem to alway sit around in San Francisco for days. Then sometimes orders come within 4 days.
 
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skyvaper

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You can "create" resistance by drawing too hard on the mighty. Soften your draw, draw longer and you will still get the same lung busting hit without out the resistance.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
You can "create" resistance by drawing too hard on the mighty. Soften your draw, draw longer and you will still get the same lung busting hit without out the resistance.

Exactly. If you feel resistance with the Mighty, as with many other vapes, you are drawing too hard.

I personally have never used a portable vape with as little resistance as the Mighty. To me it has ZERO resistance....drawing through the Mighty, or a straw the same diameter as the Mighty mouthpiece, has identical results: no resistance whatsoever outside of the natural resistance of drawing through the mouthpiece.

Truthfully, no matter how fast or hard I draw, I never get any resistance with the Mighty. It's one of the devices several near-miraculous features.
 
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