yeah that is badass - the slim and the coil and the especially the rig - same coil as the auberins units use?
thanks for posting that
@herbivore21 do you know if there are plans to sell that slim series with the quartz halo as an option? if they are I will wait since I already got a sic...
this thread really popped off in the last few days - as always some great info ans stuff to drool over
thanks for sharing
I am sure they will add the quartz halos to the slim series section soon enough, I hope so because I'm sure there are plenty like you who recently got the SiC but could justify getting the new base/quartz if you can get a nice deal together
I'll speak with them about it next time I need to, might be a while though since I think next thing I'll be getting is my replacement sapphire halo (they won't be manufactured for a good while). Spent a lot of cash on their products lately lol so gotta taper off for a while!
Hey everyone,
Could i get some guidance on which D-nail option is best for extremely low temperature hits? Right now I'm actually favoring a convection approach to my oil- I have a Kind MD SSlim ceramic cartridge, which is a directly heated custom ceramic disc atomizer that comes with a Ti2 wick/screen that can float above it for pseudo-convection vaping, or you can remove it and put oil directly on the ceramic. I definitely prefer the effects profile on the convection approach, so I am actually waiting to hear back from the D-nail engineers (probably meaning Brian himself) on using the Lotus flower adapter with oil (using a ti2 screen- probably the one from the errlectric flower adapter ironically). I'm just not sure if i should be considering the Sic, Quartz halo, or Sapphire shelf (or even the hive ceramic) instead.
I should clarify that when I say low temperature I mean under 500f. With my current e-cig mod based setup, I actually use its "temperature control/limiting" setting (which modulates power to the heater based on its resistance and temperature coefficient of resistance) which automatically pulses power to the coil (basically it does a preheat then cuts power in and out every few seconds). So I suspect the Lotus adapter is what I want, but I could be wrong.
I'm also wondering how the Auber 200/300 compare to the D-nail 1.2 control unit. My best friend has volunteered to help me put together a DIY D-nail 1.2, so the price difference is only around $100. The priority for me is accurate temperature regulation- can the auber actually match the D-nail on this?
Thanks,
MPZ
P.S.
@mrbonsai420 Your opinion on flat vs barrel actually makes sense to me from a thermodynamic standpoint (not that I'm a physics expert lol)- With a flat coil, one of the ramifications of the design is that you're going to have just slightly uneven contact/pressure between the coil and nail at varying positions, whearas with a barrel coil, the heat has to propogate through the nail from below. (so you trade efficiency for more homogenized heat propogation). That being said, I find it interesting that D-nail seems to be moving all their designs towards flat coils- perhaps this possible issue is mitigated by the precision of their connection between flat coil and nail- in which case i imagine it's a big win for thermal efficiency.
Here's hoping he stops by. I'm also hoping
@herbivore21 stops by with impressions on the lotus adapter with concentrates- his sig say he uses it with hash. Also he made a really nice post comparing all the nail options (except the hive ceramic) from D-nail. Thanks for the heads up
Greetings brother, sorry I missed your posts here I've been a bit caught up IRL lately.
Wow, you are the lowest temp dabber I know man, but I'm glad you asked this question here. If you must use quartz, only a halo is going to give you any joy at all at temps that low, there will be significant pooling on anything that doesn't wick your dab and boil it quickly in a thin film! Even so, please do not use a quartz halo for super mega low temp dabs like this. You should lean toward the SiC for sure, which will still give you the closest to full vaporization in a reasonable amount of inhaling of any nail out there! The sapphire insert will be great for your purposes too, but remember that to achieve 500f on the sapphire insert in convection mode, you're gonna have your controller rocking 100-200f higher temp on the dial! This is all recommended!
Still, from what you are enjoying with a pen, I am tempted to suggest that you get a flower adapter. Of course, it can be used for concentrates or whatever else, I predominately use mine for concentrates (especially 4 star melty hashes) and it is fantastic. So easy to clean, no risk of accidental combustion if you set the wrong temp
(IMPORTANT NOTE: The flower adapter should not be used with analogue d-nail IME. The analogues are not precise enough to the +/- 20 degree variation within which your load doesn't risk combusting - accidental combustion will happen!) when we're dealing with concentrates instead of flowers.
Using an SS/titanium wick (something like a Mighty/Crafty concentrate pad or similar) in the flower adapter with even runny oils is going to be a very satisfying experience, more like what you are doing right now. As someone with fancy nails to dab off (I am dabbing on my broken sapphire halo atm lol, just a chip and not on the dabbing surface lol) but even I will concede that convection concentrates in the flower adapter are no slouch by comparison! Hey if you wanna try get it all glass, perhaps try a small boro fritted disc (these can be found from lab suppliers) as your concentrate pad instead of metal wools! Please do not use glass frits unless you are sure they will hold together and never use them without water in the airpath (you should not risk inhaling glass particulates that come loose!).
I would like to reiterate that sapphire halos are the absolute tastiest. If you can afford one when they are available (plenty of time lol, they take forever to manufacture), do it - especially if you use full melt. I find that for full melt, you want a nail that can use low temps but still distribute and conduct the heat around the dish well to melt up and vaporize your material.
I actually do not recommend quartz halos for full melts, SiC is much more effective in this regard (although I would recommend quartz over SiC for flavor on your BHO/QWISO/rosin etc). Same goes for especially waxy concentrates (by this I mean actual wax consistency, not the sap or butane soup that dispensaries try to call 'wax'.
It's interesting taking the time to really find which of the many dab options I have now work best for which kinds of concentrates. I now find myself fortunate enough to be able to make 6-7 completely different kinds of concentrates from the same particularly beautiful flowers which really helps things along!
@weenstoned, I read elsewhere (private page, can't link) that the HE halos had issues with bubbles in the quartz. New heady glass sounds like fun btw, I love the heady glass!!!!
Oops, just saw the bit about auber vs dnail. I do know that from a purely PID standpoint the PID in the 1.2 is not comparable with the auber, which is an inferior PID (also considerably cheaper PID as an individual component, which is why it is so viable in the market nonetheless). However can't give you actual usage info on the auber as I have not used one of their controllers.
I can definitely say that the d-nail 1.2 DIY is very easy to assemble, even if you have no experience it will take you time but you'll get it. If you opt for this and have any issues assembling, please do PM me and I'll be happy to assist
