Discontinued The Grasshopper

Hawk

Well-Known Member
No, there is no spring.

You would think there would be to make sure there is good solid contact. Its possible that the skin of the battery, in some cases, could prevent solid contact. I am just thinking of various issues I have seen over the years with mechanical mods in the vaping world. Can someone post a pick of the contact on the backend when its unscrewed? All it takes is the battery to be slightly off on size, we are talking a fraction of a mm, or the skin of the battery to be a little thicker so the contact isn't quite touching. Especially if the backend is meant to screw all the way on and be flush with the body. Once again just throwing some stuff out there. Wish I had mine so I can investigate myself. Suppose to get it this month but who knows.
 

grokit

well-worn member
Battery update, caroline acknowledged that a battery is still due so incoming at some point :tup:

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On batteries/charging; the usb port out of this power station from amazon worked fine with the supplied charging cable once I exhausted the battery inside the unit. My hopper lasted around 5 bowls as advertised, using it right out of the box. My niteore d2 battery charger had no problem making sense of/charging the other (single) hopper battery as has been mentioned. I noticed the mouthpiece getting warm, but not the back end on my unit. Fingers crossed again, that this is the beginning of reliable production grasshoppers, as they ramp up their shipping schedule exponentially for the holydaze! I hope they have finally got this.

:cheers:
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
Sorry to tell you I canceled my pre-order, not cause the wait but cause the actual reliability/durability issues....

I own severals vaporizers and the first to be sold was the one who need repairs and since I live across the seas it's could be expensive for me.

It was a hard decision and I know I'm missing something a vaporist must to hit!

I'll go back here when the product will be solid proven, the sooner the better, I hope!

please guys, if your experience is only "yes it works perfectly and I'm pleased with" take time to to tell it to us!
Thanks Grokit, I consider your opinion as a solid one!
 

MoH

Well-Known Member
Finally got mine this morning, just before going to work. I will test it tonight but at first and quick sight, it looks like well manufactured :)
And be careful with taxes : I had to pay 45 € extra for customs fees. (Living in France)

After just one (a nice one) try, my unit doesn't heat anymore. I'm so desapointed. If I have to pay 45 € extra each time I need to change a piece, I won't play that game anymore and go back to my Volcano and Crafty. I've tried everything, charging one night, changing batteries... So sad :-(
 

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
please guys, if your experience is only "yes it works perfectly and I'm pleased with" take time to to tell it to us!
I had a loaner for several weeks, Titanium, no color. It worked perfectly and I was pleased with it.

After having had a chance to handle a fully functional one for an extended period of time (compared to the failure rates reported so far!), I was more than satisfied with the product. I personally am willing to wait another 6 months if I had to for my order, now that I know what the vape is capable of.

Obviously it's not the perfect vape, but it filled a niche in my collection which is currently missing - the quick single-hitter stealth vape.

I'm missing that hopper now that its gone (shipped back to it's owner), REALLY can't wait for my preorder to ship
 

Mr. Me2

Well-Known Member
I had a loaner for several weeks, Titanium, no color. It worked perfectly and I was pleased with it.

After having had a chance to handle a fully functional one for an extended period of time (compared to the failure rates reported so far!), I was more than satisfied with the product. I personally am willing to wait another 6 months if I had to for my order, now that I know what the vape is capable of.

Obviously it's not the perfect vape, but it filled a niche in my collection which is currently missing - the quick single-hitter stealth vape.

I'm missing that hopper now that its gone (shipped back to it's owner), REALLY can't wait for my preorder to ship
But if ghl is reading this thread, PLEASE don't make us preorders wait another 6 months for our hoppers! Having said that, I'd rather wait for a perfect hopper than get a problem hopper sooner.
 

Likes2vape

Well-Known Member
After just one (a nice one) try, my unit doesn't heat anymore. I'm so desapointed. If I have to pay 45 € extra each time I need to change a piece, I won't play that game anymore and go back to my Volcano and Crafty. I've tried everything, charging one night, changing batteries... So sad :-(
You won't have to pay 45€ each time as the replacement part would be shipped as a warranty claim and no taxes will be due on it. Sux you will have to pay to ship the faulty unit back though.
 

Mrbinky

Well-Known Member
Exactly. I canceled my pre-order for the same reason. I have some vaporizers that were very expensive new, and never lived up to the hype they received, so I never use them.

I'm not allowed to name names, but let's just say I've got a really beautiful, red paperweight, with an interesting glass window on the top. By far the most expensive paperweight I've ever had the misfortune to own.

On the other hand, I've got a Solo which is incredibly boring, but it sure works, and does everything I need it to do. Maybe it doesn't heat up as fast as I'd like, but I've realized that gaining a few seconds while I'm sitting at my desk browsing the web anyway is not worth risking $$ on something that may crap out on me eventually anyway. From the sound of it, the probability of that happening is just too high.

And if the company goes out of business, I'll have an expensive silver paperweight sitting on my desk next to my red one. Maybe, when that happens, some clever individual can make money selling replacement ink cartridges to fit the Grasshopper's body. At least then it will be useful for something.

Come to think of it, if I needed to pay for shipping every time the stupid thing started flashing red and blue, or smoking out the back, then it's still too much trouble to own one given how frequently that seems to happen to people around here.

And, finally, I frankly don't need that form factor. It's cute, but it seems like there is a high price to be paid for that cuteness. A lot of compromises and points of failure. Like a short vapor path (with a silicon condom to protect your lips), bits that need to screw on and off, potential high resistance to current flows, custom battery size (and short battery life), etc. etc. And for what? So you can have a little vaporizer that looks like a pen and fits in your pocket?

Cute, and some people really, honestly require that particular form factor. But for people (like me) who do not actually need a vaporizer that looks like something else, imagine how much better it could have been if they would have started with a completely blank page, and just designed the best possible vaporizer they could, regardless what it looked like?

It would probably be a lot more reliable. It would probably be a lot nicer to use, too. And, even if it didn't look like a friggen pen, there's no reason why it couldn't be beautiful in it's own way. There's an inherent beauty in form that perfectly follows function. Besides, I'm not after a fashion accessory that also happens to be a vaporizer: I just want the best designed, most functional, reliable vaporizer for my money.

Even if the Grasshopper worked perfectly, it clearly is NOT that.

But, hey, my hats off to all of the brave souls beta testing this product. As for me, I'll wait for one that is designed from the ground up to be a VAPORIZER, and not some cute, pen looking thing.

Sorry to tell you I canceled my pre-order, not cause the wait but cause the actual reliability/durability issues....

I own severals vaporizers and the first to be sold was the one who need repairs and since I live across the seas it's could be expensive for me.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Exactly. I canceled my pre-order for the same reason. I have some vaporizers that were very expensive new, and never lived up to the hype they received, so I never use them.

I'm not allowed to name names, but let's just say I've got a really beautiful, red paperweight, with an interesting glass window on the top. By far the most expensive paperweight I've ever had the misfortune to own.

On the other hand, I've got a Solo which is incredibly boring, but it sure works, and does everything I need it to do. Maybe it doesn't heat up as fast as I'd like, but I've realized that gaining a few seconds while I'm sitting at my desk browsing the web anyway is not worth risking $$ on something that may crap out on me eventually anyway. From the sound of it, the probability of that happening is just too high.

And if the company goes out of business, I'll have an expensive silver paperweight sitting on my desk next to my red one. Maybe, when that happens, some clever individual can make money selling replacement ink cartridges to fit the Grasshopper's body. At least then it will be useful for something.

Come to think of it, if I needed to pay for shipping every time the stupid thing started flashing red and blue, or smoking out the back, then it's still too much trouble to own one given how frequently that seems to happen to people around here.

And, finally, I frankly don't need that form factor. It's cute, but it seems like there is a high price to be paid for that cuteness. A lot of compromises and points of failure. Like a short vapor path (with a silicon condom to protect your lips), bits that need to screw on and off, potential high resistance to current flows, custom battery size (and short battery life), etc. etc. And for what? So you can have a little vaporizer that looks like a pen and fits in your pocket?

Cute, and some people really, honestly require that particular form factor. But for people (like me) who do not actually need a vaporizer that looks like something else, imagine how much better it could have been if they would have started with a completely blank page, and just designed the best possible vaporizer they could, regardless what it looked like?

It would probably be a lot more reliable. It would probably be a lot nicer to use, too. And, even if it didn't look like a friggen pen, there's no reason why it couldn't be beautiful in it's own way. There's an inherent beauty in form that perfectly follows function. Besides, I'm not after a fashion accessory that also happens to be a vaporizer: I just want the best designed, most functional, reliable vaporizer for my money.

Even if the Grasshopper worked perfectly, it clearly is NOT that.

But, hey, my hats off to all of the brave souls beta testing this product. As for me, I'll wait for one that is designed from the ground up to be a VAPORIZER, and not some cute, pen looking thing.

Entitled to your opinion, though the Solo is not even close to a substitute in my mind. I prefer Firefly to Solo greatly, give me on demand pure convection over session conduction any day, better taste stronger hits less waste... And Grasshopper seems just a better form factor with temp control and no stirring. Definitely sounds like you didn't need or want it, makes me question why you even bothered ordering...

I went into my pre order like I was a backer, which I wouldve been had I known about it in time. I invested in the company to get to use the vape sooner. I believe in the tech and some day we will all laugh as these become such a portable vapor standard some day soon...

:2c:
 

TheWhisper

Well-Known Member
I ran 10 or so burnoffs with this new body, and definitely noticed some visible vapor on the first 5 or so. It worked consistently for all of the burnoffs.

I'm now working my way through my first load, and it's hopping along perfectly.

EDIT (post load):

:rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon:
 
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Mrbinky

Well-Known Member
Entitled to your opinion, though the Solo is not even close to a substitute in my mind. I prefer Firefly to Solo greatly, give me on demand pure convection over session conduction any day, better taste stronger hits less waste... And Grasshopper seems just a better form factor with temp control and no stirring. Definitely sounds like you didn't need or want it, makes me question why you even bothered ordering...
Because of the hype. And it looked cool. And I sometimes like to blow my money on cool looking, overly hyped gadgets that I end up hardly ever using.

I've got an ice cream maker with a built in condenser taking up space in my kitchen. And a stand mixer with every conceivable attachment. And a bread-maker. Multiple cellphones and tablet computers. A robot dog. A home gym (really should use that...) And on and on...

I also have a friend that owns a Tesla Model S. Very sweet car. I've been tempted to buy one as well.

But, you know what? I think I'll wait until all electric vehicle drive trains with decent range becomes more of a commodity. And it will happen.

Hey, you are probably right: a lot of the ideas in the Grasshopper are gound-breaking. And those good ideas will be copied. Maybe by GL, or some other manufacturers. Eventually, there will be a lot of vaporizers will borrow some of the ideas from Grasshopper. Just like Samsung, Google and Microsoft did to Apple. They might not be quite as cool looking, but they will be functional enough for most people. And cheaper. Maybe even more reliable.

I didn't buy the first iphone when it came out. Or the first ipad. I've got plenty of smartphones and tablets now. They all work much better than the originals, and are much cheaper in current dollars. I will buy a super "grasshopper" type vaporizer just as soon as somebody markets one.

And I thank you for your investment, because you are helping make that possible for me!
 

zymos

Well-Known Member
Hopefully there will be a GH2. If they are even in a position to make that happen, it implies they've lasted that long, and they could be working on getting it perfected with a much shorter time between announcement and shipping.

[[[250 miles isn't a decent range? My friend owns one, but I'm happy with my much cheaper Volt- only a tenth as much range (which is usually more than enough for my habits) but I can always run on gas if I use up the battery]]]
 

smutman

SmutmanMDCXX
I finally got a hold of one (borrowed it from a friend) and this thing is highly overrated. It does nothing any more special than any of the 100+ vapes I own except it does heat very fast. For having to wait months to years to receive it, only having one type of battery you have to buy from the company that they are out of stock of that has a very crappy battery life, you have a 50/50 shot of it working properly that you have to pay to return for each time it breaks, to poor company management skills, coming from a company that basically lied to y'all about being beta testers "backers" lol, but has a lifetime warranty but a not lifetime company (by the looks of things) and gives the most vague updates that are reworded each time; this vape is far from the best vape out there. This thing is average at best for all factors involved from the purchase to in hand to use. I very seriously doubt I will ever buy one now that I have actually used it for almost a day. The FW3 IMO is better than the GH easily.
 

tubasco

Well-Known Member
I finally got a hold of one (borrowed it from a friend) and this thing is highly overrated. It does nothing any more special than any of the 100+ vapes I own except it does heat very fast. For having to wait months to years to receive it, only having one type of battery you have to buy from the company that they are out of stock of that has a very crappy battery life, you have a 50/50 shot of it working properly that you have to pay to return for each time it breaks, to poor company management skills, coming from a company that basically lied to y'all about being beta testers "backers" lol, but has a lifetime warranty but a not lifetime company (by the looks of things) and gives the most vague updates that are reworded each time; this vape is far from the best vape out there. This thing is average at best for all factors involved from the purchase to in hand to use. I very seriously doubt I will ever buy one now that I have actually used it for almost a day. The FW3 IMO is better than the GH easily.
thanks for letting us know that you have no need for an on-demand, purely convection vape the size and shape of a pen.
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
I finally got a hold of one (borrowed it from a friend) and this thing is highly overrated. It does nothing any more special than any of the 100+ vapes I own except it does heat very fast. For having to wait months to years to receive it, only having one type of battery you have to buy from the company that they are out of stock of that has a very crappy battery life, you have a 50/50 shot of it working properly that you have to pay to return for each time it breaks, to poor company management skills, coming from a company that basically lied to y'all about being beta testers "backers" lol, but has a lifetime warranty but a not lifetime company (by the looks of things) and gives the most vague updates that are reworded each time; this vape is far from the best vape out there. This thing is average at best for all factors involved from the purchase to in hand to use. I very seriously doubt I will ever buy one now that I have actually used it for almost a day. The FW3 IMO is better than the GH easily.

This borders on both trolling and company-bashing. You've stated your opinion, you don't own a GH and never will, you don't like the company, and now we all know it. It would seem that you have no reason to post here again. In fact, you can't now. Thread ban issued.

thanks for letting us know that you have no need for an on-demand, purely convection vape the size and shape of a pen.

Sing along with me: if a post breaks the rules, report it and do not respond. If a post bothers you and doesn't break the rules, ignore it. If you must reply, use a PM.
 

nosmoking

Just so Dab HAppy!
I appreciate the input smutman. I understand that you are not saying you have no need for an on-demand, purely convection vape the size and shape of a pen but that you are saying the Grasshopper is very overated and for those of us who have devices like the FW3 or ESV don't need to buy into the GH hype (in your opinion). I can appreciate that!

I think the pak and tubasco are taking this wrong (or maybe I am). Perhaps you could have worded things better but I guess you won't get a chance now.

There are people out there like me that are interested in this vape, but because of the hype I am not sure if it is really as good as everyone touts. I'm looking for people that have tried similar vapes (vapes similar to what the grasshopper is) to provide their feedback. It is easy for a person with conduction experience to get all hyped up about this vaporizer. I have been wondering for the past couple month's- Does it meet the hype for someone who already has something similar to the Grasshopper in their arsenal? I think posts like smutman's could contribute to an answer for this.

Just my :2c:. Hopefully, I don't get in trouble for this post as I'm not trying to stir anything up.
 
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YaFreekin Right

Well-Known Member
And, finally, I frankly don't need that form factor. It's cute, but it seems like there is a high price to be paid for that cuteness. A lot of compromises and points of failure. Like a short vapor path (with a silicon condom to protect your lips), bits that need to screw on and off, potential high resistance to current flows, custom battery size (and short battery life), etc. etc. And for what? So you can have a little vaporizer that looks like a pen and fits in your pocket?

Cute, and some people really, honestly require that particular form factor. But for people (like me) who do not actually need a vaporizer that looks like something else, imagine how much better it could have been if they would have started with a completely blank page, and just designed the best possible vaporizer they could, regardless what it looked like?

It would probably be a lot more reliable. It would probably be a lot nicer to use, too. And, even if it didn't look like a friggen pen, there's no reason why it couldn't be beautiful in it's own way. There's an inherent beauty in form that perfectly follows function. Besides, I'm not after a fashion accessory that also happens to be a vaporizer: I just want the best designed, most functional, reliable vaporizer for my money.

Even if the Grasshopper worked perfectly, it clearly is NOT that.

But, hey, my hats off to all of the brave souls beta testing this product. As for me, I'll wait for one that is designed from the ground up to be a VAPORIZER, and not some cute, pen looking thing.

I for one think making a vaporizer look like something else is incredibly useful. Even if/when MJ is completely legal there are still going to be "rules" preventing you from using it in certain locations, just like alcohol. I like the idea of it being hidden in plain sight.

I finally got a hold of one (borrowed it from a friend) and this thing is highly overrated. It does nothing any more special than any of the 100+ vapes I own except it does heat very fast. For having to wait months to years to receive it, only having one type of battery you have to buy from the company that they are out of stock of that has a very crappy battery life, you have a 50/50 shot of it working properly that you have to pay to return for each time it breaks, to poor company management skills, coming from a company that basically lied to y'all about being beta testers "backers" lol, but has a lifetime warranty but a not lifetime company (by the looks of things) and gives the most vague updates that are reworded each time; this vape is far from the best vape out there. This thing is average at best for all factors involved from the purchase to in hand to use. I very seriously doubt I will ever buy one now that I have actually used it for almost a day. The FW3 IMO is better than the GH easily.

I think you may be your own worst enemy here. You already own 100+ vapes(Is there a FC Olympics, because I think you may win) & I get the impression that you expected it to be the "Best". I think it is inevitable to be disappointed when you set the goal posts so high.
 

GreenRoom

Well-Known Member
I don't know how anyone can hold a GH in their hand and not marvel at the craftsmanship. The machining and attention to detail are magnificent. These guys took a huge risk to bring a revolutionary new vape to market and I'm shocked by the amount of disrespect being thrown around. For shame.
 

YaFreekin Right

Well-Known Member
I agree it looks cool and I can imagine the ride has been a tough one for GHL's but the reason I am upset and probably others is their seemingly lack of transparency when it comes to pre-orders.

I think they are being more transparent than any vape company I have seen. 2x monthly updates with pictures of individual components. If I were them I'd actually give out even less info, to help ward off early copycats & to minimize disappointment by people scrutinizing every detail they post.
 

zymos

Well-Known Member
I don't know how anyone can hold a GH in their hand and not marvel at the craftsmanship. The machining and attention to detail are magnificent. These guys took a huge risk to bring a revolutionary new vape to market and I'm shocked by the amount of disrespect being thrown around. For shame.

I didn't wait years and spend 150 bucks to hold it in my hand!

I've heard of VAS, but someone owns over 100 vapes? Literally?
 
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