The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Well... I've had the Mighty for 2.5 months now and I'm happy with it. Probably the best portable but there are better desktop units that have better quality. The Plenty also from S&B is one Of them and has a very steep learning curve if you want to became a real pro. It took me 2 years to master the Plenty and understand all the tiny details that contribute to high quality vapor.

The Mighty is a much easier unit. However as such have said already in this post, I'm not too sure if it is 100% clean vapor. The Mighty has a lot of plastic and aluminum; the heating element is inside the vape; and there is very few plastic that are heat resistant but B&S apparently don't want to share with the public what plastic they use. Overall I decided to use the Mighty only when I'm not at home and vape with it only 10% of the time. To me, there is no portable vape that really compares to high quality desktop vape. Desktop vapes are on a different league

By the way, I was reading about many people who managed to cut herb consumption from 0.35 to 0.25, 0.15 and 0.08 grams per session and still get backed. Does anybody know how they did it? I managed to cut from 0.34/0.4 sessions to 0.2/0.25 with same results and I'd like to go even lower if possible... Any ideas?

hello guys, i just got my mighty yesterday.
i have somequistion since im a noob in this:
1. do leaves need to be dry(like thyme or eucalyptus)
2. can i smoke powder like substances like damina extract?
3. will be glad to get some recommendations for medicinal substances for the mighty

thanks

Mr. Me2 said:

One minor difference that matters to me is that the Crafty stands upright on its own (when placed on a table) and the Mighty doesn't (based on what I've read here

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Glad to hear all is good with your Crafty...

Why is it important to you that the unit stands upright? Is it just because it makes loading the herb chamber easier, or are there other reasons.. I just sit my mighty on its side in between hits.

organic weed said:

The Mighty is a much easier unit. However as such have said already in this post, I'm not too sure if it is 100% clean vapor. The Mighty has a lot of plastic and aluminum; the heating element is inside the vape; and there is very few plastic that are heat resistant but B&S apparently don't want to share with the public what plastic they use. Overall I decided to use the Mighty only when I'm not at home and vape with it only 10% of the time. To me, there is no portable vape that really compares to high quality desktop vape. Desktop vapes are on a different league

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I'm no engineer or materials expert, but I do know that there are many high grade plastics that have very high heat resistance ratings. Many 460F and above. Personally, I trust a highly reputable and experienced company like S & B to source only the best quality materials with well above the needed heat resistance ratings. Plastic in a cheap vape and or manufactured by an inexperienced company with a questionable reputation would make me very concerned. However, if I'm buying from reputable companies like S &B, Vaporbrothers or VapeXhale... I'm really not concerned as I trust them to source the best materials and utilize the services of qualified engineers to insure the safety and functionality of their units..

Just my two cents, of course others may feel differently..

Chill Dude said:

Glad to hear all is good with your Crafty...

Why is it important to you that the unit stands upright? Is it just because it makes loading the herb chamber easier, or are there other reasons.. I just sit my mighty on its side in between hits.

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Primarily it's just a personal preference. Plus, and this may just be in my own head, but while any of my vapes are still warm I prefer to keep them upright so any resin or oils don't"spill". Particularly with my pax 2, I don't want to gunk up any airway so (right or wrong) I keep it standing until cold. Anything I can do to delay maintenance is a plus in my book.

Mr. Me2 said:

And to the mods - Are we too far off topic here?

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Yes. We have a rule:

• If you have a question or comment regarding material safety, post it in General Discussion. Do not post it in a model thread.

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Now I'm off to delete a bunch of posts...

organic weed said:

Probably the best portable but there are better desktop units that have better quality. The Plenty also from S&B is one Of them and has a very steep learning curve if you want to became a real pro. It took me 2 years to master the Plenty and understand all the tiny details that contribute to high quality vapor.

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You think the Plenty is better quality or produces better vapour than the Mighty? As a previous owner of both vapes, I would have to disagree. I think the build quality is quite similar actually, as is the vapour quality - and in fact, entire way of heating the herb and producing vapour. The Plenty bowl is just so massive, and hits harder IMO. I miss both dearly.

organic weed said:

The Mighty has a lot of plastic and aluminum; the heating element is inside the vape; and there is very few plastic that are heat resistant but B&S apparently don't want to share with the public what plastic they use.

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I would not worry about it (although I know you will), and S&B AFAIK is the only company to have produced a "medical device" in the Volcano (perhaps MiniVAP has this certification too?) so i'd bet that it's "safe". S&B is a pretty big company that have been around for a long time. IMHO they are the "Apple" of the vape world, and their latest releases kinda prove that!

organic weed said:

To me, there is no portable vape that really compares to high quality desktop vape. Desktop vapes are on a different league

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I respect your opinion, but completely disagree. I've used many vapes, expensive desktops, and overall IMHO the Mighty beat the shit out of all of them. In fact, that's pretty much exactly how I used my Mighty most of the time - desktop mode plugged in full charge passthrough. Only con IMO is the price and price of batteries, but after being without my Mighty for a while now, I ACCEPT the cost due to performance. Took me a while to warm up to that, but now i'm good.

organic weed said:

By the way, I was reading about many people who managed to cut herb consumption from 0.35 to 0.25, 0.15 and 0.08 grams per session and still get backed. Does anybody know how they did it? I managed to cut from 0.34/0.4 sessions to 0.2/0.25 with same results and I'd like to go even lower if possible... Any ideas?

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Just put a screen on the top of your load to keep it compressed and together, or use the pad. No different than the Plenty....you should be able to vape up .1g with thick clouds no problem....they just extract fast and don't last long.

Stu said:

Now I'm off to delete a bunch of posts..

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Delete or move to a new thread in General??

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Just wanted to add something i've been thinking about as I consider purchasing another Mighty soon. Most of us use credit cards to purchase vapes, and some cards have amazing benefits that many people are unaware of. One of these is usually price protection for a month or two, and another is accidental breakage for 90 days...so if you drop and toast your Mighty, you may not have to be out of luck for an out of pocket expense. Theft is also in there, but every card is different, and lots of people never utilize these amazing benefits.

Oh yeah, counterfeits/fakes could be included in these benefits perhaps? I'm looking at a source for a new Mighty that is only $250usd, and it's a retail store that claims they will not sell fakes. I'll do the appropriate research and due diligence, but it's nice that Mastercard will be there for you if you get screwed. At this price, I will have two Mighty's again soon!

Mr. Me2 said:

One minor difference that matters to me is that the Crafty stands upright on its own (when placed on a table) and the Mighty doesn't (based on what I've read here).

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I'm glad you pointed this out because I wouldn't have known about it prior to owning one and I might not have found this lil gem: http://delta3dstudios.com/mighty-mini-stand/

Exactly what it sounds like--a stand specifically for the Mighty. Yay!!! It's got a small footprint and some nifty colors to boot! A tad expensive at $11 (plus shipping maybe...?), but still something I'll end up purchasing. I too would be worried about "leaking" materials etc etc. while laying the Mighty on its side.

peacebone said:

I'm glad you pointed this out because I wouldn't have known about it prior to owning one and I might not have found this lil gem: http://delta3dstudios.com/mighty-mini-stand/

Exactly what it sounds like--a stand specifically for the Mighty. Yay!!! It's got a small footprint and some nifty colors to boot! A tad expensive at $11 (plus shipping maybe...?), but still something I'll end up purchasing. I too would be worried about "leaking" materials etc etc. while laying the Mighty on its side.

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And that's exactly what I would have recommended!!!

okay so here is the retailer I was talking about: http://dunthatvaporizer.com/

So he said the price of $329CDN is out of date on the site and he would sell it for $375cdn and then I talked him down to $350cdn. What's the catch? NO WARRANTY!!!! He said he's not allowed to sell on eBay due to minimum advertised price, and he gets them for such a steal because they have only a 90 day warranty from the retailer - meaning if it goes belly up, he will just replace it. After 90 days, out of luck! Super nice guy and sounded very honest and straight up - all boxes are sealed with authenticity and serial number.

I think i'll pass on this one! Rather have a full warranty because i'm pretty sure i'll end up using it!

I've been going back and forth for the past few months trying to decide on a top tier vape.

I think I am about to pull the trigger. I was set on a volcano but with my current living conditions (sharing moms apartment while I have been going through treatment the last two years. She doesn't like me vapeing inside) I wouldn't get enough use to justify it.

Mighty is the only vape I have heard people say it made them quit smoking all together. Well storz n Bickel vapes specifically. This is one of the main points that won me over. Also the fact ppl have had crazy issues but still say they would buy another without a second thought! I need this type of vapor quality in my life.

Since I baby everything and have never broken even a solo,stem or any of my glass I think I can make this bad boy last. Picked up a few tips on here about the CU etc. I Just sold some music production gear so will probably email Randy cuz I can't wait the three weeks planetvape says it will take for them to restock the mighty.

Mighty with wear and tear kit from PIU
Stand and universal water tool adapter from ratchet
Just got a nice padded vatra case that will fit it great.
It's going down!

Then when I finally get my own place again I will pick up a used Cano as a house warming present!!

Pull that trigger my canuck brotha! If you can stomach the price there should be zero unsatisfaction! Where you at man, lower mainland? I'm planning to pickup my Mighty soon too.... I just can't be happy in my vaping hobby without one I have realized. Kinda like a breakup..... but you miss the hot sex so bad, you just can't imagine your life without it!

whatitdew said:

I've been going back and forth for the past few months trying to decide on a top tier vape.

I think I am about to pull the trigger. I was set on a volcano but with my current living conditions (sharing moms apartment while I have been going through treatment the last two years. She doesn't like me vapeing inside) I wouldn't get enough use to justify it.

Mighty is the only vape I have heard people say it made them quit smoking all together. Well storz n Bickel vapes specifically. This is one of the main points that won me over. Also the fact ppl have had crazy issues but still say they would buy another without a second thought! I need this type of vapor quality in my life.

Since I baby everything and have never broken even a solo,stem or any of my glass I think I can make this bad boy last. Picked up a few tips on here about the CU etc. I Just sold some music production gear so will probably email Randy cuz I can't wait the three weeks planetvape says it will take for them to restock the mighty.

Mighty with wear and tear kit from PIU
Stand and universal water tool adapter from ratchet
Just got a nice padded vatra case that will fit it great.
It's going down!

Then when I finally get my own place again I will pick up a used Cano as a house warming present!!

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Having extensively used both the volcano digital and analog, I honestly don't see the point in owning a volcano if you have a mighty. Direct draw always beats plastic bags imo. If you're looking for a desktop unit, there are just simply better desktop units on the market now... however the mighty is still the best portable on the market.

Very well said @MGG! This is the truth from my personal experience as well, ALTHOUGH - i've just re-acquired a S&B PLENTY and love having a plug-in which will leave the Mighty to portability exclusively. For those who love their Mighty's, I think Plenty>Cano by far. Bags and whips just don't do it for me.

I haves used volcanos extensively in the past and I have found no better desktop for reliability/quality My Arizer EQ died within a year. They last a lifetime plus lots here on the used market to pick up for fairly cheap. Also it's more for social settings and the mighty will be my personal vape. Plenty I really look into but it just seems so strange styled vape. Who knows I might end up with two Mightys instead!!

@biohacker yes I am in downtown Vancouver. I have checked most of the stores here and Mighty averages $525 CAD and I bet most shops have old stock, so of course the best options are planet vape and PIU!! I wanted to keep the transaction within Canada but I can't wait anymore for PV and Randy is just too good with the service. Plus Randy just got a new shipment in so will be newest unit.

Still loving the Mighty! I've had it about 12 days and have ran about 5 grams through it so far.. I always brush the bowl and the screens after every use. I was wondering what you guys think is a reasonable deep cleaning schedule.. I'm thinking every 50 bowls or 10 to 12 grams or so. Thoughts?

I like the fact that I can tightly pack a .3g load and still not get any draw resistance

The vapor quality, density and smoothness still amazes me!!

Chill Dude said:

Still loving the Mighty! I've had it about 12 days and have ran about 5 grams through it so far.. I always brush the bowl and the screens after every use. I was wondering what you guys think is a reasonable deep cleaning schedule.. I'm thinking every 50 bowls or 10 to 12 grams or so. Thoughts?

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Once in a while, open the c/u a crack and peek in, you may be surprised, pleased or grossed out by what's in there. In time, you can tell by the heft of the c/u how much condensed vapor is in there (reclaim). It's more likely a screen might get sticky beyond brush-able before the c/u is really too clogged to function. Then you'd clean the whole c/u anyway. But you'll know when you want to clean it.

A clean c/u feels lighter, has a 'thinner' sound about it, and then once it gets coated inside from use, it gets heavier in heft and sound, if that is clear? It is a great help to have more than one, either you clean them in rotation so there's always a clean one ready or clean them all at once to save a lot of time.

The oven itself is dealer's choice. You can see what you've done! Now, are you gonna clean that up? Depends on your materials and temps. It's nice when your done material just falls out and whisks away quickly. Those long sessions going to high temps can kinda gum it up in there, so.......and any oily type vaping, even though there's a pad for that, uh...

Chill Dude said:

Still loving the Mighty! I've had it about 12 days and have ran about 5 grams through it so far.. I always brush the bowl and the screens after every use. I was wondering what you guys think is a reasonable deep cleaning schedule.. I'm thinking every 50 bowls or 10 to 12 grams or so. Thoughts?

I like the fact that I can tightly pack a .3g load and still not get any draw resistance

The vapor quality, density and smoothness still amazes me!!

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Personally I think that's way too long to wait to clean the CU. I wouldn't go past 20 bowls myself, and I probably clean it every 12-15. Regular cleaning will make maintenance faster and easier and prevent all kinds of performance degradation.

vapviking said:

Once in a while, open the c/u a crack and peek in, you may be surprised, pleased or grossed out by what's in there. In time, you can tell by the heft of the c/u how much condensed vapor is in there (reclaim). It's more likely a screen might get sticky beyond brush-able before the c/u is really too clogged to function. Then you'd clean the whole c/u anyway. But you'll know when you want to clean it...

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Good point. It's easy enough to just peek in the CU to see what's up..yeah, I think you're right cleaning is variable as it not only depends on quantity used, but type of product and temperatures used as well.

I do like maximum performance from my vapes, so I suppose sooner is always better than waiting too long and have to clean very heavy resin build up.

I'm going to open it up now to see how gunked up it is after 5 grams

mitchgo61 said:

Personally I think that's way too long to wait to clean the CU. I wouldn't go past 20 bowls myself, and I probably clean it every 12-15. Regular cleaning will make maintenance faster and easier and prevent all kinds of performance degradation.

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Agreed, as @vapviking pointed out, it might be a good idea to have a couple additional cooling units to rotate or clean all at once in a mega cleaning session.. I think they're only like $20 a pop.. So not too bad.

Thanks for your input...

Gonna be pulling the gun today on purchasing either a Mighty or a Crafty (big upgrade from the MFLB I've had for the past 3 years).

Heavily leaning towards the mighty at the moment. From skimming this thread, it appears that the Mighty appears to be less problematic overall compared to the crafty. Could someone confirm this? Just basing this from what I've read about the issues people have had with either unit.

Pretty excited for this purchase and to join you all with one of these premium portable vaporizers

piemaker777 said:

Gonna be pulling the gun today on purchasing either a Mighty or a Crafty (big upgrade from the MFLB I've had for the past 3 years).

Heavily leaning towards the mighty at the moment. From skimming this thread, it appears that the Mighty appears to be less problematic overall compared to the crafty. Could someone confirm this? Just basing this from what I've read about the issues people have had with either unit.

Pretty excited for this purchase and to join you all with one of these premium portable vaporizers

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I too upgraded from the MFLB. I also got the Mighty because of the problems with the Crafty.

Spend the extra money. It's worth it to not have to deal with battery problems, charge times etc...

I think another added bonus of the Mighty is the larger CU which accumulates more oil for reclaim.

FWIW, I vouche for the Mighty. Good luck!

Thanks boss, that's all the convincing I needed

Order has been placed, will arrive tomorrow. Great way to celebrate the end of exam period! Too excited!!

Chill Dude said:

Good point. It's easy enough to just peek in the CU to see what's up..yeah, I think you're right cleaning is variable as it not only depends on quantity used, but type of product and temperatures used as well.

I do like maximum performance from my vapes, so I suppose sooner is always better than waiting too long and have to clean very heavy resin build up.

I'm going to open it up now to see how gunked up it is after 5 grams



Agreed, as @vapviking pointed out, it might be a good idea to have a couple additional cooling units to rotate or clean all at once in a mega cleaning session.. I think they're only like $20 a pop.. So not too bad.

Thanks for your input...

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Can't argue with, "A clean vape is a happy vape!"

I haven't actually purchased many c/u's beyond an initial wear & tear set. Got about 5 Crafty c/u's and one Mighty. They come free with warranty replacements, and Crafty c/u's work fine on Mighty! In ten month's, I've replaced a bunch of seals, but still use almost all the original c/u parts in the rotation.
S&B now sell Fine Screens separately and some folks like using them in both oven and c/u. I do, too.

Then there's the Muzzmod. I made & experienced one last week. Eliminates c/u altogether, and that's a good thing. It took the whole bubbler thing up a notch!

Props and thanks to #elmomuzz for that!

Stinky said:

One of our German members has posted that the batteries are covered by warranty in Germany as they are in Australia. Depends on the particular countries consumer protection laws.

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That sure is odd. The warranty available to read on the Storz & Bickel Website for the Mighty and Crafty state in the boiler-plate of the warranty that the batteries are not covered by any warranty as they are considered "'wear and tear" items. How long are the batteries covered under the warranty? Are you saying when you connect to S&B website in Australia the warranty states in writing that the batteries are covered? Or is there a legal requirement covering rechargeable batteries in products? I am fighting with the repair facility in Oakland California regarding the batteries and the $96.40 they wanted to charge for replacing the batteries after only 5 months.

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Thanks for the video. I should add I am just about to receive a replacement for my Mighty which err004'd on me the first time I used it as has many times since. The battery display has had many issues too and it also didn't work while charging.

I emailed S & B about the issue providing very specific information about the issues and detailed usage information. I got an email back after days/a week suggesting that they know of the issues and to await a response to the issue very soon. I received the response within a few days of that email saying I need to send my device to them in fucking Germany at my own expense (swearing warranted when you see shipping prices!) to get a repair/modification which will fix the issues.

I said that since this is a known issue rendering their product not to operate as described - or at all sporadically - that I felt very disappointed to have to pay 25-100 bucks plus wait a week each way (with express shipping, which was MEGA $$$$$, way longer of a wait with other kinds of shipping and not necessarily any tracking) to ship my Mighty back to Germany after it errored out on me when I first used it after taking it out of the box and meticulously following instructions!

This is in fact illegal according to consumer law in my country. However I am unsure if this law applies to foreign manufacturers when they were not the original point of purchase so I must be clear that I AM NOT ALLEGING ANY BREACH OF ANY LAWS.

Regardless, I gave up on S & B and got satisfaction from my point of purchase - who I suggest all Australians should contact if they have issues. Our consumer laws gives us guaranteed remedy for the issues the Crafty/Mighty have had due to obvious and acknowledged design/manufacture problems.

S & B really need to lift their game here. The new products are epic when they work, there is no doubt and I will sing their praises for this - but give me shitty service for your expensive products and I'll be taking my business elsewhere and stop recommending your products to people.

Please note that I am not complaining that the products are expensive, that is perfectly justified by the performance. However, if you charge for a premium product, you had best provide premium support and after-sales service to your customers.

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Wish we had that protection in the United States. Still dealing with them about bad batteries

CL52613 said:

That sure is odd. The warranty available to read on the Storz & Bickel Website for the Mighty and Crafty state in the boiler-plate of the warranty that the batteries are not covered by any warranty as they are considered "'wear and tear" items. How long are the batteries covered under the warranty? Are you saying when you connect to S&B website in Australia the warranty states in writing that the batteries are covered? Or is there a legal requirement covering rechargeable batteries in products? I am fighting with the repair facility in Oakland California regarding the batteries and the $96.40 they wanted to charge for replacing the batteries after only 5 months.

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I've wondered about some of the finer points, too.
I believe the contention is that consumer laws in Australia and Germany trump the mfg. 'limited' warranty.

My musing is, if I buy a car in Australia and wear out the tires in the first few months, are they replaced under this law?

#Stinky?

Another user here just last week was told he had to buy new batteries. He asked for his piece back, and they sent "it" back, but a new (reinforced) case, new looking oven, note with new serial number (?!?), but not newly boxed or accessorized. I believe we've been waiting to hear whether he still feel it was his old piece in new case, whether it seemed to have new batteries, etc., etc. Maybe you could look back a couple pages and see who that was?

Please keep us in the loop on the resolution of your battery experience with S&B! Maybe ask them about clarifying "charge cycles" while you're going through this. (see some of this discussion, above and on Crafty thread)

*I am a recovering Crafty battery buyer*

mitchgo61 said:

Personally I think that's way too long to wait to clean the CU. I wouldn't go past 20 bowls myself, and I probably clean it every 12-15. Regular cleaning will make maintenance faster and easier and prevent all kinds of performance degradation.

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Totally agree, but man, I open it up just after one use with a full bowl, sniff it and wanna vomit! SO important to have at least one extra CU on hand IMO if you are into flavour. The CU mucks up and collects oil like crazy!

vapviking said:

Then there's the Muzzmod. I made & experienced one last week. Eliminates c/u altogether, and that's a good thing. It took the whole bubbler thing up a notch!

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I think for home usage this will be the way I use the Mighty exclusively! I'm a water tool guy, and eliminating the CU is a HUGE plus IMO.

Has any accessory maker started making these yet?