After a week of VaporBrothers, need something better for groups/solo

Yo -- I normally oppose first-post questions on forums, so, my bad for that. I've read quite a bit here the past few weeks unregistered, just registering today to lay out my situation & hope for some good insight from you folks.

Now, I feel the vaporbrothers is perfect for maybe two people, but alone or in big groups, it just doesn't work all that well. If alone, the bowls seem wasteful.. and if in a big group where it's being passed, it just seems to deliver too slow (requires many hits, lots of passing, lots of time).

Now... I've been reading about the Purple Days and it seems perfect for just 1 person. The capsules are tiny (about 1/10th the load of a whip) and being always-on is nice for at-your-convenience solo sessions, but because of how tiny the capsules are it seems like it'd be a terrible party machine... but maybe by easing up the load on the vaporbrothers it'd still help (e.g. instead of 5 on the vaporbros, put one of those on the purple days)...

Anyway, basically just seeing if you think getting a second machine would really fill the niche I'm wanting to fill. I'm pretty baked right now so try to excuse potential nonsense.

Have you considered a bag vaporizer? Check out the Extreme vaporizer and herbalaire.

Also I would look into the VHW wand vaporizer as well.

The PD holds about half the amount of a standard wand. I think your 1/10 understanding is off.

koggit said:

...but alone or in big groups, it just doesn't work all that well.

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Alone, a PD works extremely well, but for a party vape, a bag vape such as an HerbalAire, a Volcano or an Extreme can't be beat. Nothing like filling a bag and passing it around. Takes all of the user error out of the equation.

Beezleb said:

Have you considered a bag vaporizer? Check out the Extreme vaporizer and herbalaire.

Also I would look into the VHW wand vaporizer as well.

The PD holds about half the amount of a standard wand. I think your 1/10 understanding is off.

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I read that the PD holds about 0.025g... where-as my VaporBrothers bowls are 0.15g - 0.35g.. does your PD hold more than that or are you saying a standard wand holds less than that?

From what I've found out myself I think the pd holds about 1/4 to a 1/5 of a decent sized whip load .3 or whatever, that's just my

koggit said:

Beezleb said:

Have you considered a bag vaporizer? Check out the Extreme vaporizer and herbalaire.

Also I would look into the VHW wand vaporizer as well.

The PD holds about half the amount of a standard wand. I think your 1/10 understanding is off.

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I read that the PD holds about 0.025g... where-as my VaporBrothers bowls are 0.15g - 0.35g.. does your PD hold more than that or are you saying a standard wand holds less than that?

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Not so sure on actual weight but I have a DBV and a person I assisted in selecting a vaporizer bought a PD and we used the vapes side by side and the PD stem held about half as much as the DBV wand. Standard wand sizes are pretty much the same size from one brand to another.

What I think happened is that you read that someone uses that small amount but if you look at the this thread: http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=337&p=1
It will give you a better view of how much others use. The PD is only really a cost saver in comparison to other vaporizers if you stop vaping at one stem otherwise it is essentially the same usage wise as many other whip vaporizers but for those who use small amounts the PD is more than ideal. It offers the best performance at smaller amounts of weed compared to other classes of vaporizer. The best way I can describe the bowl size is that it is the size of a one hitter.

The PD is a great vape but I would want you to understand it accurately based on how you would usage would be. The thread I listed above should give you some good perspective on how it may fit your style.

Good luck in your choice and good vaping.

NoSmoke said:

From what I've found out myself I think the pd holds about 1/4 to a 1/5 of a decent sized whip load .3 or whatever, that's just my

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25% of .3g would be .075. 20% would be .06g. Either amount in a PD bowl would mean extremely fine ground herb packed to the max. That's really stretching it. Even .05g is a really fine ground and packed load-more than I like to use per bowl. It restricts airflow more than I like. I sometimes load the equivalent of 4-5 PD bowls in my SSV when I want some good thick hits. I generally think it's wise to not count hits and measure bowl amounts though-too many variables to account for. I do continue to find it surprising how many hits I can get from the tiny PD bowl, while with larger bowls and the amounts I tend to load, I find myself usually thinking I should be getting more hits than I do.

That what I meant by the 1/4 to 1/5 4 to 5 pd stems per whip is what I think is a decent but not perfect comparison and like Max said its suprising how many hits you get off that little tiny PD bowl compared to larger vapes.

I've used the PD in a group setting by itself, and it was great! I do have quite a few stems, so I was able to supply each person with their own. I really enjoyed it for this reason. Perhaps I'm a bit of a germophobe, but I feel it's more sanitary than passing a wand around. Nobody is putting their mouth on anything but their own stem.

It's also less stressful on you, as PD's are virtually indestructible. I'm very hesitant to let people use my SSV. (This wouldn't be so bad with a hands-free style wand, but still... when it comes to glass, the only person I truly trust with it is myself).

Lastly, it's also more fun! You get to pack your own stem while the unit is being passed around, and that helps pass the time as your waiting for your turn again.

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I've used the PD in a group setting by itself, and it was great! I do have quite a few stems, so I was able to supply each person with their own. I really enjoyed it for this reason. Perhaps I'm a bit of a germophobe, but I feel it's more sanitary than passing a wand around. Nobody is putting their mouth on anything but their own stem.

It's also less stressful on you, as PD's are virtually indestructible. I'm very hesitant to let people use my SSV. (This wouldn't be so bad with a hands-free style wand, but still... when it comes to glass, the only person I truly trust with it is myself).

Lastly, it's also more fun! You get to pack your own stem while the unit is being passed around, and that helps pass the time as your waiting for your turn again.

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So you don't notice that the PD cools down too much after taking so many back to back hits that happens in a group situation?

Also in a party situation, I would think that the power cord could really become an issue. How do you overcome that?

My best advice is if you use a whip based vape with a group to have at least 2 whips/wands and use no mouthpiece as the mouthpiece will get nasty.

Just load up the wands and have a few people share each whip. It goes pretty smooth that way but overall I do not like using a whip vaporizer in a group larger than 3 people as for me it begins to be a hassle but its ok for me if I bring out extra whips/wands. 2 or 3 people sharing a single wand works out, 2 is better 4 is pushing. So if if you use 2 whip/wand kits 4 to 6 people can easily share where as everyone sharing one wand is less fulfilling and more difficult in my experience.

lwien said:

So you don't notice that the PD cools down too much after taking so many back to back hits that happens in a group situation?

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Nope, wasn't an issue.

I've never actually sat there and intentionally tried to "cool off" my PD by taking rapid fire hits from back to back stems. Sounds like something I will have to try!

I usually take a standard "milkshake through a straw" type hit, fairly long and slow. I've had sessions where I decided I wanted to get totally fucked up and pre-pack all my stems. I never really get to finish them all. It's usually about 15 minutes in, when I realize I'm browsing the web/doing something on the other computer, and there is a stem stuck in the PD, lol.

lwien said:

Also in a party situation, I would think that the power cord could really become an issue. How do you overcome that?

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an extension cord

LordKaz420 said:

I've never actually sat there and intentionally tried to "cool off" my PD by taking rapid fire hits from back to back stems. Sounds like something I will have to try!

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The PD 'holds temp' very well. I thought this would be an issue in view of its size, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that even with heavy back to back hits the heat exchanger hangs in there very well.

I've had sessions where I decided I wanted to get totally fucked up and pre-pack all my stems. I never really get to finish them all. It's usually about 15 minutes in, when I realize I'm browsing the web/doing something on the other computer, and there is a stem stuck in the PD, lol.

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I know the feeling.

So see last night this sort of came again...

Three of my friends were getting off work at 9:30, we wanted to have a little aroma therapy before seeing the 10:30 showing... we got to my place at about 9:50 then only had 30 minutes to vape. I ended up using the VaporBrothers with big bowls and at higher temps than usual to speed up the process. It worked out alright.

Usually I set the VB at 9 o'clock at first and work up to about 12 o'clock with .1g over the course of about 20 hits, so normally .1g for just me takes about 30 minutes. Instead, I packed .4g bowls and started at 11 o'clock taking about 8 hits from each bowl.

Still, I think the PD could alleviate situations like this because 1 - 2 people could use the PD while others use the VB. It'd take part of the burden so the VB could do a better job.


Also, last night's herb was like half burnt and half green, so I reused it this morning & got a really nice high that I'm still on