Discontinued Zion vaporizer
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TheDudeNextDoor
Abiding
Daaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn... 
Fission
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killick
But I like it!
What a lovely video 
On a sort of related note I've been on preorder for a grasshopper, and just missed being one of The Beta Boys when that opportunity arose, anyways....
Chatting with a buddy who *is* a Beta Boy, and he made a great observation I want to share with y'all...
"The Hopper is a precision instrument, like a rifle, which is great for what it will be, but you need a shotgun, and that's what Zion is".
So anyways it was easy to cancel, and part of me will miss not having a cool shiny gadget, but I'm also a huge horsepower fan. Giddyup
On a sort of related note I've been on preorder for a grasshopper, and just missed being one of The Beta Boys when that opportunity arose, anyways....
Chatting with a buddy who *is* a Beta Boy, and he made a great observation I want to share with y'all...
"The Hopper is a precision instrument, like a rifle, which is great for what it will be, but you need a shotgun, and that's what Zion is".
So anyways it was easy to cancel, and part of me will miss not having a cool shiny gadget, but I'm also a huge horsepower fan. Giddyup
vapen00b
Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
Thanks Pakalolo, this is why vid's of function through glass are so important (and fun) to me.
They simply give a better idea of vapour production than simply blowing clouds, and the Zion looks like it's delivering on all the promise it's been showing!
Now, at the risk of overworking you, how about a WP-010 vid?
Thanks Pakalolo, this is why vid's of function through glass are so important (and fun) to me.
They simply give a better idea of vapour production than simply blowing clouds, and the Zion looks like it's delivering on all the promise it's been showing!
Now, at the risk of overworking you, how about a WP-010 vid?
I'm not really a water tool person nor do I chase after clouds, but you've nailed why I like to use one for testing. I already have a WP-010 video of something a bit off-the-wall, but it's not ready to post yet. I'll try to get it up later today.
Anyone who thinks testing is not hard work should try it sometime with a device as versatile as Pauahi. For example, what's the effect of using a different stem? Load up, do anywhere from 8-15 hits, try to summarize. Change stem, load up, another 8-15 hits, summarize. Oh wait, what if I use more power? Load up, 8-15 hits, summarize, change stems, load up, 8 to what was I doing? Oh yeah...
TeeJay1952
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Insert clip of Elton John singing "It's the Circle of Life!" from Lion King. (Is reference better than YouTube link?)
MrPeanut
Zion, stealing faces since 2015
Anyone who thinks testing is not hard work should try it sometime with a device as versatile as Pauahi. For example, what's the effect of using a different stem? Load up, do anywhere from 8-15 hits, try to summarize. Change stem, load up, another 8-15 hits, summarize. Oh wait, what if I use more power? Load up, 8-15 hits, summarize, change stems, load up, 8 to what was I doing? Oh yeah...
I hear ya @pakalolo! RBT has been "torturing" me for a year. One night in particular he had me test 10+ heater configurations. All in the name of science I say.
Likes2vape
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Is the heater configuration in Pakalolo's unit still the hand tuned version? Any breakthroughs on production heaters performing up to par?
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
So it looks like you have your screen in the wpa basket style? (like an EQ screen but inside)
So what is the ruling on this @RastaBuddhaTao? Can I do as I please screen wise, especially with a wpa from another source? Still willing to give the other way a shot again with new screens/Zion, but would like to again have the option if I prefer it and it won't do any harm...
Oh and have you gotten a chance to pick up Ziggy's sad cold shell yet?
That's correct, I used a Zion screen basket-style. @RastaBuddhaTao will outline the limits of his lifetime warranty, but you can do whatever you like. As long as the screen does not extend beyond the stem (which the rim around the Ariser Elbow screen does) the position and orientation of the screen can't affect the Zion. I think what I did there was fine. I don't like the domed position and I won't use it if I can avoid it, but for the sake of Science I have been using the stock stem and screen position for a lot of my testing.
Yes, and that's why I let up when I did. Pulling through the bubbler removes the warning you get when the flavour changes. ABV is dry and that increases the combustion risk as well.
The taste was not good but not awful. I'd do it again if I wanted a nightcap.
vapen00b
Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Thanks pak, I could watch Pauahi Channel all day long.
Very nice, no combustion. You are a well experienced!
Wish I could achieve that with my ESV... Still charring at a certain point or even combustion.
Keep the vids coming, if you can.
Appreciate em soo much - Zion is happening!! I can feel the spirit
Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
Anyone...Anyone... Buller?
I know that the heater in Pauahi is not the final version. Only @RastaBuddhaTao can comment further.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Jessica and Pauahi are noticeably different. I can't say what causes those differences. I can say that Pauahi heats up faster and is better at low power settings, but remember that Jessica wasn't typical. I haven't explored the mid-range and high end much yet.
I'm confident that the production Zion heater will be at least as good as Pauahi, and people won't be disappointed.
@pakalolo I would have thought mica and glass absorbing/dissipating heat in different ways explains the faster heat up and better low power settings. Mica being faster to reach a set point. May be wrong.
I know it's difficult to say without being able to conduct a side by side test but how do you feel on flavor?
Is there a marked difference between the two?
I know it's difficult to say without being able to conduct a side by side test but how do you feel on flavor?
Is there a marked difference between the two?
You are probably right but I have no way of knowing what other factors there might be. Jessica was one of the first heaters built so there are definitely changes.
I haven't noticed any flavour differences. I don't think I could tell them apart in a blind test.
doubledown
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Hate to come in here and poop all over the thread, but I've been trying to get a refund for my pre-order for a week now. @RastaBuddhaTao sent an email last week stating the refund minus PayPal fees for requesting refund over 60 days from order (which I wasn't thrilled about, but ok) was done, but I still haven't received it even after exchanging additional emails. I didn't even want to abandon my pre-order but needed money for another project having to do with my work. RBT, you asked that people request a refund via your site if needed, please make good on getting monies back to your customers, I still hope to be a future customer. Now back to some good vibes.
Edit: Received email from RBT. He is looking into refund issue.
Edit: Received email from RBT. He is looking into refund issue.
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