Discontinued Elevape SV

Shit Snacks

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nosmoking said:
Thats all I was trying to say to you before when I told you I didn't see my Zion leaving my house much and asked you if yours would...now you see why I feel the Zion won't need to leave the house much. The Elevape is just too convenient.
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Totally, Elevape is still unmatched in super stealth pure convection on demand imo. T1 came close before, but has more inconveniences and company folded. Grasshopper is ofcourse a strong competitor, but we all know how that launch is going :rolleyes:

Used my Elevape out last night in a bar, after a show upstairs we went downstairs for the bathrooms, and it was so empty that we just sat on a ledge and went through two and a half strong tasty bowls at my level 1 (305), nice clouds minimal smell, still a truly incredible portable with instant powerful flavorful vapor!!!

(However as always, I have to mention when I had Zion, it made me want to take it everywhere stealth be damned! lol)
 
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Damn! After waiting most of the day, I also got only the little grinder package...boo hoo, big disappointment, but it must be coming tomorrow I hope. At least that's what I'm expecting given @darkrom's experience...:huh:


Edit: Just phoned Oron at Vape-smart.com & he confirmed that the ESV was shipped via UPS from California. He gave me the tracking no. & it is indeed due tomorrow. He said they ran out of the ESV at one location so they had to ship from a different warehouse. Will report back when it is in my hot little hands...and on the hot little charger for 5 hours!
 
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The best way to determine how long to draw, (I draw until after the light flashes) is to go into a very quiet room. When you inhale you will hear air coming into the unit, after the light flashes you can actually hear the air slow down and stop (my draw speed is a 4 or 5 out of 10, 10 being the hardest draw). Remember how many seconds after the flash (2 seconds for me) and you will get the best results.

Air is entered through the side of the unit in the center. There is a small gap around the perimeter (where the cooling chamber and unit mate up). Make sure if your palming the elevape your not choking off the air intake.

To all you guys that just got the Elevape.
Remember to start at the lowest temp (I use 305F as well), and LESS IS MORE!
You will get better results if you don't jam pack the chamber. Start with 3/4s of a chamber and leave it fluffy.

Once you get the Elevape dialed in it's very hard to put down! The Elevape is one of the most efficient vapes I've used!

Enjoy your Elevape guys! The Elevape is seriously on another level than all other portables!
 
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Hi guys,

I also wrote this to Joe as he liked to hear my first impressions - since I know him from here, I think it's ok to paste post it here that way:


So I had two runs now with it - battery is already drained. I got to get used to a different vape style, I think. Coming from a conduction Arizer Air, which I sip for 20 minutes, enjoying superb flavor at 180c (lowest setting).

I loaded it only a bit - but I think more than I would put in the Air - and started hitting.
Found it to be pretty demanding to keep the red light solid red. This is what has to be achieved, right? I also tried drawing just a little slower but the lamp began flickering or even turned off... On some tokes a went on again just to shut off again. I wasn't intentionally dragging all differently and think I hit it constantly enough..
I had charring/slight combustion going on for some hits - at 305f !!?? ..it .tasted bad.
Good thing, flavor got better the next hit, so having a bad tasting hit won't ruin the whole load's taste.
I could not manage to get consistent good hits. But I got the feeling I maybe improved a little.. So motivation is there and it's fun to learn :)
My main questions are:
Might the coil need to be tilted or checked?
Do I really have to draw that hard to keep the red light solid? I felt like a broom... Don't think it is proper that way.. It must be easier, so I think that sensor is triggered too "high"..

Could you give me hints, suggestions etc.?

I'm sure once everything is as it should plus me having learned how to ride this bike, it's gonna be a great vape I m gonna appreciate. Right now would be too early.

EDIT: About the setup:
I removed the mouthpiece screen before and attached the stir tool as well and added a finer screen underneath (with a hole for the screw) that I tried to "bottle". Temp settings 305f. Bowl only filled with some pinches...guess less than 1/4 of the bowl.
Did not touch the coil, no tweaks.


This is a pic of the first load at 305f. Pic is a too bright due to flash light...brown parts are more like black

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Teach me guys - I wanna achieve the "elevaped " badge :D
 
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Vape Dr. said:
@vapen00b try a finer grind and don't over pack the chamber. Less is more!
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Thanks Dr. - I'll have a look at your vid later .. Finer grind, try what I can do. Only got one two piece grinder, medium-coarse I'd say. :\

In terms of overpacking - this is the exact opposite of what I've loaded.. Just a pinch.. Maybe .02, max. .04

Hope I can improve like you did.. Looks fantastic and efficient indeed.. not for me until now.
 
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I have an issue, I've done maybe 5-6 charging cycles on this unit over the last week.

Last night I put it on charge and went to bed. A few hours later I come back and found no green light. Plug into PC and charge is at about 95%, doesn't appear to want to go to the 100% any more.

Any advice as to why that is, practically a new unit.
 
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vapen00b

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Hmm.. Sounds strange.

I got my unit yesterday and supercharged it - then connected it to the PC and my charge state bar did move all the time within the last bar... Like 95, 91, 93, 90 - it didn't stop.
Asked joe about it and he said as long as it's within the last bar and I'm seeing the green light, it should be fine.. I know, your problem is different. It's just that I think the bar is not too exact... As well as the temp settings - for me..


Combusted again at 305 doing a micro dose... How is that even possible? I drawed hard and keep the red light up and cleared for 2 secs after red light went off. :(

I think the draw is kinda hard to maintain... Only had an Air before so I'm used to slowly drawing. But it's almost exhausting to draw that hard and keep it up constantly for 8 secs or more.
How were you guys "approaching " the perfect red light draw ? Try to find the spot by underrunning the sensor and the draw a little more until it heats? Thanks for finding the right way!!

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Vape Dr. said:
When the unit is charged it goes into trickle charge mode. I find using my computer charges faster and if it is not fully charged, if you unplug them plug it back in it should go to green very quickly.
@vapen00b did you tweak your coil?
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No, did not do anything to the coil. Originally, I wanted to leave everything stock like... but while initial charging I read quite some stuff about temps and tweaking - bottlecap etc.
Did put my heat levels to 305f/340f/375F - but mainly went lowest temp cause I wanted to get a feeling for it without risking to combust...If I could have gone even lower, I would have done that too. Obviously I could not avoid combusting even with big solid draws thru blinking red light. Dont get it how I could have done it differently and successfully..? Is is that difficult to get decent hits? I thought this one is good out of the box without hustle.. And I thought it was beginner friendly, but I think it's way more difficult than hitting an Air. Kind of variables where I thought there were none since it's supposed to maintain/regulate the temp somehow... Did I get it wrong completely? I'm curious anyways.. how can a 305f temp setting result in big vapor production? It's too low for that in my understanding.
Only thing I did was attach the stir tool to the lid and underneath a finer screen (a little bottlecap style but with a hole in the middle of course). I did it coz - as I understood - the stir tool would more act like a heat sink and thus reduce the risk of combusting additionally.
I could provide you with pictures of the coil and everything else, if it'd be helpful?

@Vape Dr. @Shit Snacks @OF and all of you ESV veterans, I thank you so much for helping out! I know it has to be about me and/or the setup. As I read most of this thread I don't seem to be the only one having problems in the beginning...
Though I did (partially) combust in every load yet and have to draw like a hoover, I can say that my throat and respiratory systems is less irritated than vaping with conduction units. So this is a benefit already (yeah, and I got medicated to a certain degree of course too... but not the purely enjoyable and efficient way)! Hope to getting the hang of it soon :)


P.S. After having recharged, I disconnected the ESV and put it aside over night. Now I plugged it to the computer and it's charging again..? Isn't it supposed to keep the charge for longer if not used for just some hours? Don't mean to critisize, just for my understanding. Thanks!!


P.P.S Does it matter holding the ESV in different positions and/or angles combustion risk wise? I had the slight impression, holding it a lil tilted towards the front (chamber) would give better results..?
 
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Thevengeance

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Thanks to those above, yet i charged the last bit on pc, i guess some kind of protection going on.

As for usage, I'm loving it now, I don't use the original filter or the stir tool.

I use a 20mm screen bent into the lid (like a bottle cap) and a lowish temp.

Because there's nothing to super-heat or just stuck on I can shake the material between hits and i'm getting clouds without combustion.

The original lid and the stir tool turn this into a conduction vape, this method is all convection and it's really quite clean.
 
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Shit Snacks

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vapen00b said:
No, did not do anything to the coil. Originally, I wanted to leave everything stock like... but while initial charging I read quite some stuff about temps and tweaking - bottlecap etc.
Did put my heat levels to 305f/340f/375F - but mainly went lowest temp cause I wanted to get a feeling for it without risking to combust...If I could have gone even lower, I would have done that too. Obviously I could not avoid combusting even with big solid draws thru blinking red light. Dont get it how I could have done it differently and successfully..? Is is that difficult to get decent hits? I thought this one is good out of the box without hustle.. And I thought it was beginner friendly, but I think it's way more difficult than hitting an Air. Kind of variables where I thought there were none since it's supposed to maintain/regulate the temp somehow... Did I get it wrong completely? I'm curious anyways.. how can a 305f temp setting result in big vapor production? It's too low for that in my understanding.
Only thing I did was attach the stir tool to the lid and underneath a finer screen (a little bottlecap style but with a hole in the middle of course). I did it coz - as I understood - the stir tool would more act like a heat sink and thus reduce the risk of combusting additionally.
I could provide you with pictures of the coil and everything else, if it'd be helpful?

@Vape Dr. @Shit Snacks @OF and all of you ESV veterans, I thank you so much for helping out! I know it has to be about me and/or the setup. As I read most of this thread I don't seem to be the only one having problems in the beginning...
Though I did (partially) combust in every load yet and have to draw like a hoover, I can say that my throat and respiratory systems is less irritated than vaping with conduction units. So this is a benefit already (yeah, and I got medicated to a certain degree of course too... but not the purely enjoyable and efficient way)! Hope to getting the hang of it soon :)


P.S. After having recharged, I disconnected the ESV and put it aside over night. Now I plugged it to the computer and it's charging again..? Isn't it supposed to keep the charge for longer if not used for just some hours? Don't mean to critisize, just for my understanding. Thanks!!


P.P.S Does it matter holding the ESV in different positions and/or angles combustion risk wise? I had the slight impression, holding it a lil tilted towards the front (chamber) would give better results..?
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Hey man,

Yeah this happens to some people, nothings for everyone. I think you can get there though, you're just too used to vaping with the Air. For example, most smokers I hand this too take a nice quick deep puff for a huge cloud with no issue.

For one thing, did you remove the mouthpiece screen? Imo it restricts airflow and is totally unnecessary.

I would also recommend not using the stir lid, and switching to bottle cap screen style, more even heating through the load.

Are you opening to stir every hit? Do that too, otherwise yeah some parts of your bowl will get overcooked while others remain light.

I would tweak the coil only if the above doesn't help, and stay at the lowest temp for sure, if you do go up, only go up to 310 for now etc.

Air is automatic, simple yes, but so underpowered hence slow sipping (mine also lost its good taste so I sold it, done with Arizer), once you get it down, one instant pure convection puff from Elevape should get you there, super smooth, tasty, and strong in my experience, truly one of the best for me.

Good luck and keep at it!
 
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Shit Snacks said:
Hey man,

Yeah this happens to some people, nothings for everyone. I think you can get there though, you're just too used to vaping with the Air. For example, most smokers I hand this too take a nice quick deep puff for a huge cloud with no issue.

For one thing, did you remove the mouthpiece screen? Imo it restricts airflow and is totally unnecessary.

I would also recommend not using the stir lid, and switching to bottle cap screen style, more even heating through the load.

Are you opening to stir every hit? Do that too, otherwise yeah some parts of your bowl will get overcooked while others remain light.

I would tweak the coil only if the above doesn't help, and stay at the lowest temp for sure, if you do go up, only go up to 310 for now etc.

Air is automatic, simple yes, but so underpowered hence slow sipping (mine also lost its good taste so I sold it, done with Arizer), once you get it down, one instant pure convection puff from Elevape should get you there, super smooth, tasty, and strong in my experience, truly one of the best for me.

Good luck and keep at it!
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Hey shits, thanks for your reply!

Yeah, actually that was the first thing I did... Had your words in my ear! ;) So, no mouthpiece screen! :)

Ok - I try doing the bottlecap. Already made one when that thing was charging up.. So I thought I'd be prepared. Unfortunately, I didn't have a perfect sized screen for that.. used a really fine and stiff one and had it trimmed down and forced it to cover the screw hole and just f%§" fit in there :D
It's not perfer nor a beauty - but maybe it does the job. If I understood correctly, there's no air intake around the lid cap, so my fine screen will not restrict any draw, huh?

No, I wasn't opening the lid once... but used the stir lid from time to time. I think it would get a little annoying to always open that thing. I would love to avoid that tbh. (Actually I thought I read somewhere in here you were not doing it yourself.. but maybe I mixed that up)

I needed to fiddle around and remove the screws and gotta take a more detailed view of what's in there and see how I would like to clean it once in a while with a qtip and iso... and I looked at the coil, which was slightly tilted towards the sensor, I could see the spiral was not "in line" when seen from the side. I thought this ideally should be and touched it gently - and bent it down just a little bit, not intentionally as I wanted to wait for your answers and advices instead of jumping the gun... but yeah, that happened in a way.

Then I assembled the thingy and loaded it with my usual grind size stuff and just covered the screen with it.. so not too much.
Hit it hard at 305f went thru the blinking light.. and as I wish no dense vapor but a nice crescending flavor. Repeated that and another one a little slower but strong enough to keep up the light... not much thin vapor (which is good coz its really just 305f ... and I think this could be realistic).
I need an orientation to kind of rely on the temps I set. So my goal is to learn a good repeatable draw, which is as close as it can get to the preset temps. Reliably.

I got all kinds of botanicals I wanna use in the ESV - and they have quite different vape temps (some are even around 120C - so I'd love to have a firmware with more ranged temp at least at the lower end... but that's not gonna happen I guess ;)



Hm, strange your Air lost the flavor. Never heard of it... This are super tasty to me. But if the ESV is better, I sure want to be able to confirm that! :)

Thanks man.
 
Shit Snacks

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vapen00b said:
Hey shits, thanks for your reply!

Yeah, actually that was the first thing I did... Had your words in my ear! ;) So, no mouthpiece screen! :)

Ok - I try doing the bottlecap. Already made one when that thing was charging up.. So I thought I'd be prepared. Unfortunately, I didn't have a perfect sized screen for that.. used a really fine and stiff one and had it trimmed down and forced it to cover the screw hole and just f%§" fit in there :D
It's not perfer nor a beauty - but maybe it does the job. If I understood correctly, there's no air intake around the lid cap, so my fine screen will not restrict any draw, huh?

No, I wasn't opening the lid once... but used the stir lid from time to time. I think it would get a little annoying to always open that thing. I would love to avoid that tbh. (Actually I thought I read somewhere in here you were not doing it yourself.. but maybe I mixed that up)

I needed to fiddle around and remove the screws and gotta take a more detailed view of what's in there and see how I would like to clean it once in a while with a qtip and iso... and I looked at the coil, which was slightly tilted towards the sensor, I could see the spiral was not "in line" when seen from the side. I thought this ideally should be and touched it gently - and bent it down just a little bit, not intentionally as I wanted to wait for your answers and advices instead of jumping the gun... but yeah, that happened in a way.

Then I assembled the thingy and loaded it with my usual grind size stuff and just covered the screen with it.. so not too much.
Hit it hard at 305f went thru the blinking light.. and as I wish no dense vapor but a nice crescending flavor. Repeated that and another one a little slower but strong enough to keep up the light... not much thin vapor (which is good coz its really just 305f ... and I think this could be realistic).
I need an orientation to kind of rely on the temps I set. So my goal is to learn a good repeatable draw, which is as close as it can get to the preset temps. Reliably.

I got all kinds of botanicals I wanna use in the ESV - and they have quite different vape temps (some are even around 120C - so I'd love to have a firmware with more ranged temp at least at the lower end... but that's not gonna happen I guess ;)



Hm, strange your Air lost the flavor. Never heard of it... This are super tasty to me. But if the ESV is better, I sure want to be able to confirm that! :)

Thanks man.
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Ah yeah man, I'm always cracking open my Elevape to stir, really gotta flip the load around cuz herb likes to stick to mesh screens, and also so it heats evenly. I have successfully experimented with various grinds and packs without stirring, but still that is my optimal experience, stir every hit or two, common for pure convection. Stir lid is only so so at really doing it well imo.

Yeah no worries about lid, air comes from underneath (or above rather) to pass the coil. I cut my Indica screens down after shaping em on a AA battery, I've got two, one for each lid, that I clean and re use.

Yeah, I went through 3 Solo's before the Air, and I don't know if it was the conduction getting to me, but it just started tasting off to me after enjoying it for a few months, and didnt feel like spending money for warranty bc in the past they claimed no smissue with the Solo. Others didn't mind so I sold it, maybe it was just me but it wasn't a pleasant experience anymore, and I hate forced conduction sessioning, feel like I'm wasting too much and have to do so many back to back hits. Not my cup of tea anymore, I'd rather work harder for overall better vapor personally
 
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Thanks man!

Ok - I'm gonna stir it up ;) The mesh argument is a K.O.
What temps do you use - as I know you like temp stepping as I do? :)


I'm trying 305, 350, 375 now.. But will hold onto first temp for a while and try to get a hang of it - and then try to vary my breath/draw speed a little as I think that will make much difference
 
Shit Snacks

Shit Snacks

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vapen00b said:
Thanks man!

Ok - I'm gonna stir it up ;) The mesh argument is a K.O.
What temps do you use - as I know you like temp stepping as I do? :)


I'm trying 305, 350, 375 now.. But will hold onto first temp for a while and try to get a hang of it - and then try to vary my breath/draw speed a little as I think that will make much difference
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Honestly, I often do full bowls on 305 now, I have variance in my draw so in the past I could fully darken a full fine grind bowl with several hits, like natural temp stepping. Now I'm doing abit courser, smaller bowls, but still been sticking to 305. I could always go up too, but the best stuff is already gone by the time I do typically, I think I have temps at setting 1, 5, and 10 (haven't been using 10 at all, I should adjust em again), forget exact temp listed for those, but as we know the temp is just a guideline anyhow, not precise. Way back when my temps were set much higher, but my old coil was actually smaller too, so that was a factor.

Oh! Here's another good tip, especially for temp 305, try a slower draw at first (not too slow though! lol), then pick up speed for the back half of the 8sec, drawing even faster as light flashes and a sec after it goes out to fully clear quick. That's actually the best way to get huge clouds if your draw varies anyway.

There are a lot of little variables at play here though of course, so really just practice practice practice, good luck dude!
 
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Shit Snacks

Shit Snacks

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OyVape said:
Haha! @Shit Snacks, have a look at your 2nd-to-last paragraph...Probably just a typo. did you really mean to tell him to have sex right after the light goes out?:lol:

This one should go on the "funny things on FC" thread...
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Yeah yeah, what's the problem?
Just a nice quickie mid sesh :ko:

Just what I get for always doing FC on my phone, I'm riddled with typos everywhere I'm sure. Do my best to edit but I'm only human!
 
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Hehehe.. Lol


Guys, I just had one super nice fukin first draw. OMFG... Went all the way thru red with a good draw, I'd say medium speed and felt some tiny bits flying in my mouth.. Didn't bother me. Then I exhaled .. And exhaled - vapor, vapor, fuckin what..still vapor! And not harsh at all..! Unbelievable. This must be this super sweet convection thing going on! Totally stunned. With the Air I would have coughed and my throat would itch etc.
Getting some nice food now - and then enjoying the rest of the load. It's about the amount I would put in a domed screen stem and know that will give me a good buzz. Can't wait to see where this amount with nice tasty 305only ESV vapor draws will get me.:rockon::science::tup:


Cya later guys!!!:nod:


@Shit Snacks yah, nice idea with increasing draw to the end.. That was already on my mind. This is getting nicer and nicer. I love the learning curve :)
 
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Shit Snacks

Shit Snacks

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vapen00b said:
Hehehe.. Lol


Guys, I just had one super nice fukin first draw. OMFG... Went all the way thru red with a good draw, I'd say medium speed and felt some tiny bits flying in my mouth.. Didn't bother me. Then I exhaled .. And exhaled - vapor, vapor, fuckin what..still vapor! And not harsh at all..! Unbelievable. This must be this super swede convection thing going on! Totally stunned. With the Air I would have coughed and my throat would itch etc.
Getting some nice food now - and then enjoying the rest of the load. It's about the amount I would put in a domed screen stem and know that will give me a good buzz. Can't wait to see where this amount with nice tasty 305only ESV vapor draws will get me.:rockon::science::tup:


Cya later guys!!!:nod:


@Shit Snacks yah, nice idea with increasing draw to the end.. That was already on my mind. This is getting nicer and nicer. I love the learning curve :)
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Love it, that's exactly what I'm talking about! Shockingly tasty and smooth, yet massive clouds. You'll be a pro in no time
 
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Shit Snacks said:
Love it, that's exactly what I'm talking about! Shockingly tasty and smooth, yet massive clouds. You'll be a pro in no time
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Reporting in, sir!

Right now I do feel like a pro - nicely elevaped only on 305... Not too cloudy, actually it was two ok visible hit..but not too thick or dense. But I didn't chase for them..effects! That's what I was looking for. Man, if I even think of stepping it up a little later, I already feel hiighhaaa :D
Efficient!!

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