How to maximize high from Pax 2 vape?

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mcandre

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1 flower bud + lighter + cheap Gatorade bong + 2 draws = super high.

1 bigger flower bud + 4 piece grinder + fully charged Pax 2 + tamp down with pencil eraser + 10 draws on 2nd heat setting = barely buzzed at all.

What should I do to get a stronger high from my Pax?

On a related note, I often have trouble drawing enough into my lungs. Any tips for a newbie hitting it for the first few times?
 
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mcandre said:
1 flower bud + lighter + cheap Gatorade bong + 2 draws = super high.
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That 'high' includes carbon monoxide and benzene, which are both toxic, sleep inducing compounds. If that's the high you want, then just continue smoking. But if you want to experience the vapor high, do as KidFated suggested and quit smoking and do vapor only for about a week. Vapor is a much cleaner high, and you really can't appreciate it if you go back and forth between vaping and smoking.

You're also comparing smoke via a bong to a portable vaporizer. That's like trying to compare sipping a glass of wine to guzzling a pint of booze. Quantity does matter.
 
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max said:
That 'high' includes carbon monoxide and benzene,
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Not to mention formaldehyde, hydrogen cyanide, nitrogen oxide.....

Every time I vape I am bowled over with how 'clean' the high is, I'm more medicated on weed than I have ever been, but have been less 'cabbaged', with a clear head that is able to get on and do things.

OK, still battling the K.O. of an evening, but while awake, the high is silky smooth just like the vapourous clouds :nod:

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Quit smoking. Your body will adjust to the no smoke, only vapor.
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^^^ Wise words indeed, because until you have truly stopped combusting, you won't believe a word any of us vapourist say :nope:
 
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max said:
That's like trying to compare sipping a glass of wine to guzzling a pint of booze. Quantity does matter.
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Excellent analogy. :clap: (no slow clap emoticon) Although a pint of booze would probably kill me.

I only do the occasional bong hit during supply runs or in the company of non-converters without my Pax....and it's jarring. I definitely don't miss the smoky poisoness high of it at all.

Do what everyone else has suggested and take slow deep long draws, hold and exhale slowly. It's not a quick process like a massive bong hit. Low and slow. Like everyone says, it's a medicated state of being. No toxins. Very nice.

Do you smoke cigarettes? Probably changes things if you do.
 
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Heh, I'm curious why no one suggested he move to the highest heat setting :p That ought to help a bit.
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:tup:

Now Stop making sense there @zor, that's just too crazy & simple of an answer for our minds to handle this morning.

Raised heat=bigger buzz, :doh: Way too simple of a solution, raising the temp. Who would of thunk of that?

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I'm not familiar with the Pax 2, but I still smoke in addition to vaping and I actually find vaping more satisfying when one thing is incorporated: Water! Nothing beats some fat rips off the vapor bong, and most portables have some way to incorporate an adapter to use a water device, whether a small hydrotube or a full-fledged bong. Also, my Extreme Q delivers a more satisfying experience than my Davinci Ascent (which is still awesome btw), so if a portable isn't working for you you might consider a desktop unit like the Extreme Q.

-Treeburner
 
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For some people (myself included) vaping simply isn't as intoxicating as combusting.

However I prefer vaping for most any occasion, its a far more functional buzz and the desired effect is achievable with a small amount. Try turning up the temps when you're vaping, releases "stonier" actives. But in all honesty, if you just want to get ripped a big bong rip or dab is really tough to beat..
 
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Tommy10

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Turn the heat up or get a harder hitting vape? Maybe a lotus with WPA and a glass bong? Mimicking the smoking method you are used to is big if you ask me! If you smoke joint, try a pax... If you rip cones, maybe a log/LSV/Evo and a bong?
 
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Nok21

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KidFated. said:
Quit smoking. Your body will adjust to the no smoke, only vapor.
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This. When I made the transition, it took me a month or two of feeling little effects from my vapes before i started to notice that i was getting INSANELY more effects from a hit off a vape than I was getting doing 2 cones in a water pipe.

Give it a few months. I've had friends who tried my vapes for a month straight not get much effects, and I've had friends who hit the vape the first time and are floored. Wait it out, and you will not regret it!

Now those two cones last 2x as long, and provide an extra byproduct for edibles.

I'd recommend you try the PAX2 on its highest temperature for a little while.

Also, the Vapor Genie and Lotus Vaporizer are phenomenal and easily can replace the feeling of hitting a bowl... Or gatorade bong.
 
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Yes, logically there is no real way that a similar load and a similar delivery method of vape won't get you higher than smoking the same thing. A lot of vapes are gear towards longer sessions, if you don't normally have long smoking sessions (joints, blunts or lots of small pipe hits and so on) then you might not like a longer vape session. If you smoke big bong hits and want to feel that instant zonked on exhale... Try a more suited vape. The technology is there, and it's only getting better and cheaper!
 
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Tommy10 said:
Yes, logically there is no real way that a similar load and a similar delivery method of vape won't get you higher than smoking the same thing. A lot of vapes are gear towards longer sessions, if you don't normally have long smoking sessions (joints, blunts or lots of small pipe hits and so on) then you might not like a longer vape session. If you smoke big bong hits and want to feel that instant zonked on exhale... Try a more suited vape. The technology is there, and it's only getting better and cheaper!
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I agree that he should try longer sessions on a higher temperature, holding hits in as long as possible- if you don't see vapor on the exhale, that means you absorbed most if not all of it. I own the origonal pax, and get the most out of my hits by "micro draws" as i call them- draw in vapor very, very slowly. Like your sipping a strong drink. Hit it slowly and then take a quick inhale, more or less collecting vapor in your mouth, inhaling, and doing this a couple times back to back. Do this for a 10 minute session and get back to us :myday:
 
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While I disagree that vapes DO have greater effects than smoking, Ill say that everyone is different.

I also agree that you should try longer sessions on a higher temperature, holding hits in as long as possible- if you don't see vapor on the exhale, that means you absorbed most if not all of it.
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The effects may feel less/different for others, and everyone is different. But vape vs combustion you are going to extract more cannabanoids vaping the same ammount, I don't think that can be argued really.
 
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Tommy10 said:
The effects may feel less/different for others, and everyone is different. But vape vs combustion you are going to extract more cannabanoids vaping the same ammount, I don't think that can be argued really.
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Little tired, ended up removing that part about vapes vs combustion extraction- figured I misread it. :rolleyes:

But yes, the effects vary from person to person.
 
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Tommy10 said:
The effects may feel less/different for others, and everyone is different. But vape vs combustion you are going to extract more cannabanoids vaping the same ammount, I don't think that can be argued really.
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Yes, but at a much slower rate. Combusting is all the high temp stoney actives at once, hence the amplified feeling.
 
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Tommy10

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Like I said... Get a more appropriate vape. Plenty of vapes out there that can extract .05 worth of weed through a bong in one hit... Vs burning it and loosing actives. Same material, all in the lungs in one hit plus less irritation and a longer hold.
 
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Tommy10 said:
Like I said... Get a more appropriate vape. Plenty of vapes out there that can extract .05 worth of weed through a bong in one hit... Vs burning it and loosing actives. Same material, all in the lungs in one hit plus less irritation and a longer hold.
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And alas, still a less "stoned" type effect. I've used "appropriate" vapes (numerous desktops and portables). I'm not condoning combustion by any means, just stating the fact that myself and numerous others have a different and often more intense high with combustion.

Its a different high altogether with different delivery methods. Accepting that will help save people like the original poster from disappointment.
 
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