Discontinued The Grasshopper

TheWhisper

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tubasco said:
actually the Q & A section says "750ma for both ports combined" and that it's "craptastic" and "too slow" to be of any use to a modern smart phone.
did you try a different charging brick with a higher amperage?
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I've never had any trouble charging my phone (LG G3) on it, so I can't comment as to whether it's "too slow". I don't think I have other bricks, but I'll look around.

EDIT: One thing is that from the first time I tried charging it to now, it's always flashed red-blue-red-red when charging, and not just a blinking red like it shows in the manual.
 
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delloy

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tubasco said:
actually the Q & A section says "750ma for both ports combined" and that it's "craptastic" and "too slow" to be of any use to a modern smart phone.
did you try a different charging brick with a higher amperage?
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I would tend to agree here. I think you need one with a higher amperage. I use an Xtar USB Battery charger to charge my 18650s and this requires a usb adaptor with 2.1 A output. I use my iPad charger.

Do you have a suitable external battery charger you could try the GH batts in?
 
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delloy said:
I would tend to agree here. I think you need one with a higher amperage. I use an Xtar USB Battery charger to charge my 18650s and this requires a usb adaptor with 2.1 A output. I use my iPad charger.

Do you have a suitable external battery charger you could try the GH batts in?
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Not currently, but I've just ordered an XTAR VP2 and it should be here on Wednesday. It seems to have some manual voltage/current settings that I will need to set when I receive it and put the batteries in. Any suggestions as to what settings I should use?
 
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GreenRoom

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Quick update on my titanium that I sent back once. After I got it back it failed again, but then started working again. The back end gets really hot and sometimes the lights do funky things. But I'm gonna wait to send it back a second time, hoping they get more issues ironed out.

I have to say though this thing is freak'n awesome. Even with one failure and a questionable second, I would still buy it again. For sure. It's definitely worth the wait.
 
TheWhisper

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So, I've been doing a little testing and no matter what USB port I plug it into — front of computer, back of computer, power supply of my SP3, the Motorola adapter, and even an Apple adapter — the Hopper reacts in the same way. It's a little hard to count because it blinks so quickly, but I think it flashes red-red-red-blue&red and then repeats that cycle. It also makes a single little ticking noise each time that cycle repeats.

I'm not sure if this is because it's receiving insufficient juice or if the Hopper is just borked.

I should receive the XTAR charger on Wednesday, so I'll continue experimenting when I get that.
 
tubasco

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TheWhisper said:
So, I've been doing a little testing and no matter what USB port I plug it into — front of computer, back of computer, power supply of my SP3, the Motorola adapter, and even an Apple adapter — the Hopper reacts in the same way. It's a little hard to count because it blinks so quickly, but I think it flashes red-red-red-blue&red and then repeats that cycle. It also makes a single little ticking noise each time that cycle repeats.

I'm not sure if this is because it's receiving insufficient juice or if the Hopper is just borked.

I should receive the XTAR charger on Wednesday, so I'll continue experimenting when I get that.
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Is the Apple adapter for an iPhone or and iPad? If for the phone, it appears that these are all low amperage usb connections you are using. Not saying the hopper shouldn't charge from any or all of these, but it will be helpful to try it with the charger you just ordered.

Good luck!
 
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TheWhisper

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tubasco said:
Is the Apple adapter for an iPhone or and iPad? If for the phone, it appears that these are all low amperage usb connections you are using. Not saying the hopper shouldn't charge from any or all of these, but it will be helpful to try it with the charger you just ordered.

Good luck!
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I don't know. It says 10W USB Power Adapter on it, along with 'Output: 5.1V 2.1A'.
 
tubasco

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TheWhisper said:
I don't know. It says 10W USB Power Adapter on it, along with 'Output: 5.1V 2.1A'.
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damn, that's the larger, iPad brick. 2.1A should be more than enough. Hopefully the battery charges externally and (maybe) it's just the backend/charger connection that's at fault...
 
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TheWhisper

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tubasco said:
damn, that's the larger, iPad brick. 2.1A should be more than enough. Hopefully the battery charges externally and (maybe) it's just the backend/charger connection that's at fault...
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I'll leave it sitting on this charger for a while and see if it seems to make a difference.

For those with working Hoppers, do they tick when charging?
 
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nonbeliever

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TheWhisper said:
I'll leave it sitting on this charger for a while and see if it seems to make a difference.

For those with working Hoppers, do they tick when charging?
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Mine never has made a clicking sound at all. I've also never seen red and blue lights blinking. Mine just went black when it died. It definitely sounds like you have a charging malfunction or motherboard problem going on, probably not at the plug, but in the vape unit itself.
 
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TheWhisper said:
I'll leave it sitting on this charger for a while and see if it seems to make a difference.

For those with working Hoppers, do they tick when charging?
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I thought it was only supposed to tick when the heater is going because it cycles on and off? You may have a bigger problem if that's the case.
 
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Averyminya

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TheWhisper said:
I'll leave it sitting on this charger for a while and see if it seems to make a difference.

For those with working Hoppers, do they tick when charging?
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Was wondering if others noticed this. Depending on how the charger is on the unit will predicate whether the ticking your hearing is there. The flashes are normal. After, it should do a blink every 3-5 seconds red until it blue. Through my laptop charging takes just under 45 minutes. Via iPhone brick it takes just over an hour. Don't have an iPad brick... sorry. But yes, I do notice the ticking if you bring it close to your ear. If the charger is rotated to the correct place, it no longer ticks. However, it doesn't seem to matter, it charges fine. Maybe was something we just didn't notice at first, like how the heater in the Hopper ticks when it's on.

Should have called it The Cricket :rofl::razz:
 
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Averyminya said:
Was wondering if others noticed this. Depending on how the charger is on the unit will predicate whether the ticking your hearing is there. The flashes are normal. After, it should do a blink every 3-5 seconds red until it blue. Through my laptop charging takes just under 45 minutes. Via iPhone brick it takes just over an hour. Don't have an iPad brick... sorry. But yes, I do notice the ticking if you bring it close to your ear. If the charger is rotated to the correct place, it no longer ticks. However, it doesn't seem to matter, it charges fine. Maybe was something we just didn't notice at first, like how the heater in the Hopper ticks when it's on.

Should have called it The Cricket :rofl::razz:
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Yeah, I just tried turning it, and the ticking definitely changed in volume depending on how the charger was rotated. Weird stuff...

And, unfortunately, I don't think my flashes while charging (red-red-red-blue&red) are normal. Does yours really flash like that when charging too?
 
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nonbeliever

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TheWhisper said:
Yeah, I just tried turning it, and the ticking definitely changed in volume depending on how the charger was rotated. Weird stuff...

And, unfortunately, I don't think my flashes while charging (red-red-red-blue&red) are normal. Does yours really flash like that when charging too?
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Mine has never flashed red and blue in the same blink sequence when charging. It has only blinked red when charging, and only blue when charged. Never both red and blue. Have you contacted HL yet? It should not be doing that.
 
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Averyminya

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TheWhisper said:
Yeah, I just tried turning it, and the ticking definitely changed in volume depending on how the charger was rotated. Weird stuff...

And, unfortunately, I don't think my flashes while charging (red-red-red-blue&red) are normal. Does yours really flash like that when charging too?
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I would contact support, then. I have noticed that sometimes when I plug it in and the battery is dead, the lights will flash red twice and then continue normally. I just connected my Hopper to the charger a few times and it only blinks red once.

Sorry to hear this :( On the brightside, I imagine a fully functioning Grasshopper will hit much better!
 
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EmDeemo

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Frank Reynolds said:
New parts sure don't seem to be helping with failure rates. Failing left and right on reddit and here.

I think it's safe to assume people with the lights of doom have tried a whole lot more than just clicking their hopper off and on again in an attempt to get it working before sending back. These failures aren't being made up they're actually happening and it is a massive problem.

You just happened to get extremely lucky (after your replacement back end of course.)
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Maybe I'm not using reddit right, but I only see two failures over there? Are there more?
 
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YaFreekin Right said:
Some people overreact.
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This is exactly the sort of post I warned people not to make. Do not comment on other people's reactions. Do not start this discussion again. A lot of members escaped lightly yesterday. That's not happening again.

I want to clarify something. The whole discussion that I deleted was breaking several rules. All of the rules I posted were broken by at least one member. Once I realized the scope of the problem, I just selected the whole conversation and issued a blanket alert. I leave it to individual members to decide whether they were part of the problem or not. I stopped trying to sort that out because it was a waste of time. I wasn't about to issue a dozen warning points. There was no way of leaving only the posts that didn't break a rule because the result would have been incomprehensible. If you feel that your only offense was being off-topic or just being caught up in the sweep, you're probably right.
 
GreenRoom

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My second "failure" had the rapid flashing red lights and a loud clicking. I don't know what happened but it started working again. I'm using an iPhone brick to charge and I have two of them so maybe one is busted and I used that one? I don't know.

On another note, was it ever determined to be normal that if the back end touches metal it turns on? It seems that if the clicker and body both touch metal, a circuit is completed and it turns on. Could be a problem if you have keys or change in the same pocket.
 
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MoltenTiger

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GreenRoom said:
On another note, was it ever determined to be normal that if the back end touches metal it turns on? It seems that if the clicker and body both touch metal, a circuit is completed and it turns on. Could be a problem if you have keys or change in the same pocket.
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Yes it has been observed, and clarified from GHL, that shorting the body to the clicker will signal the device to power up. However, as the button is not depressed the device is aware that it should not be on, and it will enter a state (effective immediately) similar to when it turns off from timing out after 18 seconds. It will flash red periodically however it doesn't appear to make a noticeable effect on battery life thereafter. No power will be sent to the heater so it won't heat up or have any significant discharge.

GHL should probably put key bits of info like this somewhere for the user to see...
 
howie105

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Kalessin said:
Is it really necessary? The guy in the video above finished 4 in 30 seconds. Multiply that over one 8 hour shift and you'd have over 2500 screens...I doubt it's slowing them down at this point...
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Lets hear it for piece work. FUCK THAT! However you may be right on the bubble.
 
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Scott A

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shadymilkman said:
Known. There's false start protection programed in the device, to alleviate this.
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That is still just a band aid to fix a HORRIBLY engineered design. I would be fired in 2 second if I delivered a something that turned its self on by shorting out against something.
 
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