Eating ABV - trip report.

Aimless Ryan said:

What I can tell you at this point is that it looks like about two parts of coconut oil to one part ABV, in terms of volume. Basically I use just enough coconut oil for the warm mixture to become slightly soupy, rather than doughy. If any other potentially-useful descriptions come to me, I'll try to remember to share.

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Thanks.
The guess-timate of 2 parts oil to 1 part ABV is close enough.
No need to push beyond what you are comfortable with

One question.

I don't think it would be in any way difficult for me to measure the volume of the ABV. However, there is a huge difference in the volume of 3 g of normally ground ABV and 3 g of powdered ABV. If I do measure some of it by volume, what degree of fineness might be most useful for you?

I have recently switched from a medium grind to a slightly finer grind to a much finer grind. So I have no idea how my next batch will be when it comes time to process.

Also, I think you are aware that I can't do it with my current ABV, as I have already processed it and mixed it with coconut oil.

Since the ABV has a bit of dissolving to do in the coconut oil, and the soupy/slightly thickened jello consistency is what you are looking for, whether you powder or grind it is really immaterial.

Heck, I've thrown coconut oil and ABV in the blender, and just let it go until I was ready to put it in the jar for its waterbath.

I'm pretty sure the reason mine is as effective as it is, is I waterbath it for three days, using the crockpot on Low. I expect, like everyone else, you'll decide that 6 hours "should be enough."

Strain whilst warm.

Your last sentence made me think of something. I have never strained, and I don't really feel like straining will ever be a real concern for me, as I don't mind the taste or mouthfeel of powdered ABV. (I basically treat it like it's a pill, regardless of whether I use capsules.) However, if I change my mind, what would I need (to help me strain)?

I think you or someone mentioned cheesecloth. I don't even really know what cheesecloth is, or where to find it. If that's what I would need, where do I get it?


EDIT: @MinnBobber if you're in the market for a scale, this is what I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QFCG5ZQ/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

This scale costs $17.

It measures to within 0.01 g. It seems to act a little flaky every once in a while, but mostly it works great and seems to be very accurate. This scale, which I bought in July, has already saved me hundreds of dollars, because this scale made it clear to me that my previous guy was ripping me off by 25%.

And it costs $17.

Get a simple 100% cotton dishtowel. Stick a layer of it inside a "gold" coffee filter. Stick in the top of your quart jar. Pour slowly.

I strain to remove bits of branches, gritty feel, and the occasional leaf bit. too much fibrous material is bad for my insides, too. No real desire to eat what amounts to paper/wood fibre pulp.

I finally got around to eating some of the ABV I had been planning to eat a few days ago. The chunk I broke off (below) weighed 5.86 g, which means it should consist of about 5 g of coconut oil and 1 g of ABV. I ate it at 11:13 am EDT.



From what I remember reporting in a recent post, this full chunk (below) is almost exactly 5 parts coconut oil and 1 part fairly green ABV (by weight). I was hoping I could cool it in a square (or rectangle) container this time, with a flat bottom, but I don't think I have anything like that, except for containers that are too big.



Updates later, I suppose.

Well, after doing some reading on FC, trying to figure out the dosage, I ate some ABV the other day, for the first time.

From the info I had seen here it seemed that one good dose would range somewhere between half a gram to one gram of ABV.
I measured out a gram & it looked like way too much. So I cut it to .80g. This still looked like too much so I reduced it to .60g. -about one teaspoon (I vape at low temps, usually 160 -165C, hardly ever more that 180C. So my ABV should be more potent than most)

I melted some coconut oil in a small pot, added the ABV (chunky- not powdered or ground), stirred it up a bit & took it off the heat. I let it cool down & it filled 12 medium sized capsules. I think I used too much coconut oil - the caps looked to be about 50/50 ABV to oil. I would have hoped to have less oil, more ABV in each cap.

I licked the pot to get the little that was left, it probably would have filled half a capsule. I pocketed the 12 capsules & jumped on my bike for a ride. I'm pretty sure I started feeling some effects 20 minutes later - just from licking the leftovers in the pot. I was going to eat all 12 caps but decided to try 9 for the time being.

I'm glad I didn't eat them all. It came on quickly & pleasantly within half an hour. An hour later I was flyin' but in a very good way, not at all out of control. I was nicely stoned for about 6-7 hours before it began to taper off.

So my dose, because I only consumed 9 of the 12 capsules, was about .45 grams of lightly used ABV. I may have a lower tolerance than most - but .45g was plenty for me & I'm glad I didn't eat the entire .60g that I'd prepared. I'll have to try the 3 leftover caps sometime soon- & see what that does.

I currently have 1.5 g of ABV heating over a low flame, in a spoonful of coconut oil. I didn't weigh the coconut oil because this time I weighed enough ABV for one large dose, which makes the coconut oil quantity meaningless.

I have not eaten ABV since the last time I posted in this thread. Don't know if I'm going to eat this ABV later today or wait a day or two, but I do know this dose will be considerably larger than my previous doses.

Okay, just for fun, I made a batch of granola bars using my ABV Coconut rub, with a bit of decarbed bud added (kinda like light abv...), and it's pretty kick-ass.

11:58 am: I ate my 1.5 g of ABV at about 9:00 EST this morning (three hours ago). I'm pretty sure this is by far the biggest dose of ABV I have eaten. (I could easily check by scrolling back through this thread, but I'm too lazy.)

I didn't feel like much was happening until a few minutes ago when I went to the kitchen to warm up my oven and put some refrigerated chicken tenders in it. While doing that, I learned that right now is not a good time for me to be on my feet. If I spend much time on my feet today, I'll probably fall and get hurt.

Keep in mind, being on my feet means using a walker even when I am not under the influence of cannabis.

I haven't consumed any other cannabis today. I was going to have a small vape session (with about 0.02 g in my Aromed) as I returned to my couch from the kitchen, but I decided it was not necessary.

3:11 pm: Very relaxing day.

If it's the point that the weed has to be heated up for the cannabinoids to work in a digestive setup, then maybe we can produce ultra-intense ABV by vaping below 148°C. Just heat up your vape of choice (Mighty, Crafty, Volcano, Puffit) and puff at low temperature (130°C? for example) for 10-20 minutes (getting the terpenes out at best).

Would this work?

I have never once did this i have been chucking mine out for a year because it is so brown and vaped at such a high temp. I seem to extract all the visable vapor and then the really incapacitating cbd hit that is vapor less but comes after some sucking.

Is that avb useless for eating then? I have a Mighty too i am thinking maybe the stuff i use in it (210c max) might have a bit more potential. My avb is normally very very dark because i like the head stone incase anyone asks.

rodders83 said:

Is that avb useless for eating then?

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Your ABV will still have goodies in it.
I finish all my sessions at 445 F so it is very well extracted BUT that ABV still works as an edible!

EDIT-- Mighty top temp is 410 or 415 F so it should have a lot left in it.

@rodders33...I'd say that weed is pretty much cooked... Doubt there's anything much left after vaping up to 210C...221 is the max temperature on the Ascent anyway...

There's always something left

NorVape said:

There's always something left

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Yeah, I probably vape my herbs as thoroughly as anyone, at a temperature just below combustion, but I can assure you there was something left in the ABV I ate two days ago.

Holy crap guys, I reclaimed a very very dirty EQ elbow in some hot milk, and had some ABV topped peanutbutter toast. Man I melted into the couch.

I chuck my flowermate stem in my friday afternoon tea at work...by the time I'm going home I'm nicely buzzed....

Might make a tall tea and put my dirty @DDave wand in it..

Oh my guys, I made an stem honey milk white russian, it's great! One part honey milk, one part khaloua, and one part vodka.

Bump! I made some medicated coffee from my honey milk stem! Drinking it now!

So I'm planning on trying this tonight. I've only ever got high once and it was off these weed chocolates I bought online. I got high but not massively. This was two weeks ago now, and my friend has a vapourizer and they just gave me 6 full caps and 1 half a cap to try. For someone who hasn't properly got high before, how many do you suggest I take? I'm pretty sure they're 00 caps.
Thanks

pikaawho0902 said:

So I'm planning on trying this tonight. I've only ever got high once and it was off these weed chocolates I bought online. I got high but not massively. This was two weeks ago now, and my friend has a vapourizer and they just gave me 6 full caps and 1 half a cap to try. For someone who hasn't properly got high before, how many do you suggest I take? I'm pretty sure they're 00 caps.
Thanks

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I was wrong, they're 000 caps!

We all are different far as doses are concerned. There's a lot of variables to consider whether or not you have an empty stomach is one if them. You need to have some sort of fat along with the ABV because that's how it gets absorbed into the body through the liver. It takes about 1 -3 hours to feel the affects. I would start slow in the early evening. If you take too much you can always go to sleep. Don't plan anything such as driving anywhere.

I would take the capsule along with a couple of spoonfuls of peanut butter. Also start out with an empty stomach. A cup of hot cocoa with some real fattening whipped cream on top use 4 tablespoonfuls or more, is another way to include fat. After 45 min to an hour I would eat a meal with some fat in it such as pizza or a hamburger. Wait and see how you feel. If nothing, take more. Try again until you get the right dose on another evening if things don't work out.

Some folks can't get medicated with edibles.

CarolKing said:

We all are different far as doses are concerned. There's a lot of variables to consider whether or not you have an empty stomach. You need to have some sort of fat along with the ABV because that's how it gets absorbed into the body through the liver. It takes about 1 -3 hours to feel the affects. I would start slow in the early evening. If you take too much you can always go to sleep. Don't plan anything such as driving anywhere.

I would take the capsule along with a couple of spoonfuls of peanut butter. Or gave a cup of hot cocoa with done real fattening whipped cream on top. After an hour I would eat a meal with some fat in it such as pizza or a hamburger. Wait and see how you feel. If nothing take more. Try again until you get the right dose on another evening if things don't work out.

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I ate a meal about 4-5 hours ago and haven't eaten anything since so that should be okay? I don't have anything as you described other than some giant cookies xD I'll see how it goes and as you said, I can always just see how it goes and try it again on another day

pikaawho0902 said:

I'll see how it goes

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So Bro, you mellow now?