The Herbalizer

Sig

New Member
Hello All! first time posting here long time vaporist. Both on e cig and herbal vapes. Tomorrow I will buy the herbalizer and I can't wait. Currently I solely vape with a mighty. No complaints on my mighty it's great. My question is how much more will the herbie outperform the mighty? Of course the mighty will now become travel vape only. Thanks!
 

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Hello All! first time posting here long time vaporist. Both on e cig and herbal vapes. Tomorrow I will buy the herbalizer and I can't wait. Currently I solely vape with a mighty. No complaints on my mighty it's great. My question is how much more will the herbie outperform the mighty? Of course the mighty will now become travel vape only. Thanks!
I don't have a Mighty but I think a few ways it may be better are heat up time, possibly more precise temp control, and it's convection.
 

Vapebk

New Member
@Vapebk

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c76man

In search of the best terps and smoothest vapor
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Hello All! first time posting here long time vaporist. Both on e cig and herbal vapes. Tomorrow I will buy the herbalizer and I can't wait. Currently I solely vape with a mighty. No complaints on my mighty it's great. My question is how much more will the herbie outperform the mighty? Of course the mighty will now become travel vape only. Thanks!
The Mighty is a really good vape, IMO. As far as vapor production and taste, I actually give a slight nod to the Mighty. The heat up time, temperature control, and versatility of the Herbilizer are big plusses.
 
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virtualpurple

Well-Known Member
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The Mighty is a really good vape, IMO. As far as vapor production and taste, I actually give a slight nod to the Mighty. The heat up time, temperature control, and versatility of the Herbilizer are big plusses.

That's high praise for the mighty, as the Herbie puts out pretty pure flavor!

I am still mulling over my Herbalizer, as some of you know I feel like my Herbies performance is kind of spotty. While I do get medicated from my Herbie I feel that it lacks in cloud production compared to most of my other vaporizers. I understand that vapor density will vary based off different things my unit just doesn't seem to produce the thick consistent vapor that I see in review vids or pictures on this forum.

When I do fog out my bubblers with my Herbalizer it's a super happy occasion. But even when my methodology is the same I feel like the results are far more inconsistent than appropriate.

Here's the problem; I bought my Herbalizer from Massdrop.com, not understanding at the time that it would not have a valid warranty. When I reached out to Herbalizer they told me as much. When I contacted mass drop initially a year ago they offered to replace the unit or refund my money. I held off initially because I kinda feared having Herbie out of my hands for awhile. But now I'm having second thoughts and am almost afraid to email mass drop again because they have distanced themselves from vaping, although I think they should honor the warranty as long as the advertised product is typically warrantied.

I just wish there was a way to calibrate the unit at home.

I would love to have the Zion or grasshopper in my hands before I try and send my Herbie off but I am not certain yet when I will recieve either.
 

Tex

Well-Known Member
I am still mulling over my Herbalizer, as some of you know I feel like my Herbies performance is kind of spotty. While I do get medicated from my Herbie I feel that it lacks in cloud production compared to most of my other vaporizers. I understand that vapor density will vary based off different things my unit just doesn't seem to produce the thick consistent vapor that I see in review vids or pictures on this forum.

I have experienced similar things with my Herbie. I recently moved to Colorado so I have access to quality bud and it usually vapes very, very well. The other day I noticed some bud I had was not vaping nearly as good as it did when I first got it. It is really strange, because the weed that won't do very well in the Herbie with the VXL Hydratube seems to always do better in the Mighty.

I don't know what the deal is but it just has to be the bud itself. I just got some new strains the other day (Bruce Banner and ChemDawg) both very high in tested THC and so far, they vape great in the Herbie. We are getting so many hits, it is unreal. I literally can't count how many thick clouds we get but it has to be over 25 individual hits and I take long draws. Before the BB and Chemdawg, I had some StarDawg, a sativa that was very potent (29.87% THC). It vaped sooooo good in the Herbie at first. Blew my mind with Sativa-goodness. When I did the last few bowls (a week and a half or so after purchasing), I'd try them in the Herbie first and just saw no cloud production. Then I'd toss that bud from the Herbie bowl straight into a Mighty that was at temp, and it would produce significantly more vapor. All my bud is kept in the little bottles they give you at the dispensary, and then I put those little containers in a CVault.

It really perplexes me because I experienced this when I lived in TX and sometimes I'd get bud that appeared to be uncured (overly moist) and it would vape like shit for awhile then when it dried out adequately it would be much better, which kind of led me to believe drier bud was better in the herbie. Sometimes I'd toss in some food grade silica packs to my jars to help remove moisture and that seemed to help with the lower quality stuff I was getting in TX. I haven't really gotten any bud that I felt wasn't cured, it has all been very good stuff so far. I just don't know what would make it vape great, then start sucking a week or two down the road (but still vape pretty well in the Mighty).

As a result, I always get worried that something is wrong with my Herbie. But as soon as I get new bud and try it, I'm convinced there is nothing wrong with the Herbie. Maybe it just does best with bud of a particular dryness?
 

MinnBobber

Well-Known Member
I understand that vapor density will vary based off different things my unit just doesn't seem to produce the thick consistent vapor that I see in review vids or pictures on this forum.
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Those vids and pictures may be producing unreal expectations. My guide is always, how medicated am I and NOT how much vapor did I see.
It seems like my miniVAP and Herbie produce less visible vapor than some other vapes but VERY effective vapor.

FYI, Those vids of exhaled vapor almost always have direct lighting. My new vape station now has a lamp and exhaling over it makes invisible vapor suddenly into BIG clouds.
It can be deceptive....
 

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Those vids of exhaled vapor almost always have direct lighting.
This is very true. For the video below we had a bright light shining down from above. The beta unit being used was also running at 50°F higher than the highest temp on the production Herbie, so there's also that.
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The Undecided

Well-Known Member
This is very true. For the video below we had a bright light shining down from above. The beta unit being used was also running at 50°F higher than the highest temp on the production Herbie, so there's also that.
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Uhmm 50f higher? Do you think they left in the programming? It be interesting to see if there's a way to increasing the temp though some sort of modification of the programming. Just a thought.
 

MinnBobber

Well-Known Member
Uhmm 50f higher? Do you think they left in the programming? It be interesting to see if there's a way to increasing the temp though some sort of modification of the programming. Just a thought.
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The 445 F current max is there for a reason as combustion starts in the 450 F range.
Add 50 F and you'd have 495 F max and have to worry about (fuck) combustion :)
 

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Uhmm 50f higher? Do you think they left in the programming? It be interesting to see if there's a way to increasing the temp though some sort of modification of the programming. Just a thought.
The designer felt that there was "partial combustion" occurring at these temps, so he decided that the operating temperatures should be lowered. I can't say that I necessarily agree with that assessment, but it was his design decision and I respect that. I don't think hacking the software is a wise idea.

:peace:
 

Tex

Well-Known Member
Those vids and pictures may be producing unreal expectations. My guide is always, how medicated am I and NOT how much vapor did I see.

I've had my Herbie for going on a year and a half. I have always had a desk lamp or light near the vape. I always exhale my hits near the light so I can see vapor production. I'm not saying that more vapor means more medicated every time, but I definitely think it is that way for me most of the time. I mainly base this off the fact that back when I lived in TX, I'd occasionally get that uncured bud. I'd grind some up the night I got it and it wouldn't produce vapor worth a hoot. No clouds. Barely felt anything. I usually would have some backup bud that was properly cured so I'd switch to that while I would let the new wet bud cure. As soon as I'd switch to the already cured stuff, I'd get clouds and feel super medicated.
 

jds32

Well-Known Member
The designer felt that there was "partial combustion" occurring at these temps, so he decided that the operating temperatures should be lowered. I can't say that I necessarily agree with that assessment, but it was his design decision and I respect that. I don't think hacking the software is a wise idea.

My day 2 unit combusted 3 times before replacement. It was gross.
 

Sig

New Member
So two days in and lots of waxes later I can say the herbie is far superior to a traditional nail in that every bit of essential oil is used. I have been putting both pads down so that oil doesn't drop down if I miss call the right temp. A question though, the scent oil it came with, I have been using it with vapor therapy like a Vicks, is this ok??
 
Sig,

FavorVapor

New Member
So I usually set my temp at 357 during the AM/afternoon for that primarily cerebral buzz

Do you guys prefer to vape what is left later that night at a high temp or do you just go ahead and throw the light tan abv into the edibles jar ?
 

MinnBobber

Well-Known Member
I'll often do 330, then 370, then 400 during the day but never stop there/ never ABV it at that point.
Later evening do a 420 and then 445 and THEN it goes in the ABV jar but it's not light tan then ;)
 

uisge beatha

Nachos Rule
A one week update on my Herbie return:

I didn't pay any mind to the return during the week because UPS RMAs have, for me personally, always been 100% trouble free, but I checked the tracking status today and delivery has been attempted twice since Thursday because the business was closed. I'm not overly concerned, yet, though it is a little alarming.

Anyway, I shot Carrie an e-mail today. Hopefully I hear something good back from her by Monday? I'll keep you all posted.
 
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