Vapman

I_wanted_truth

I_wanted_truth

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Thanks, ya'll! It seems like I am maybe romanticizing the Vapman's ability to do everything well. And probably underestimating how loud a butane torch is.

natural farmer said:
Hey bro! I think the Vapman could really work for you based on what you say. It is my "one to rule them all" for some time now and although I am adding a couple more vapes in my arsenal soon just because I really like them, I could certainly stay with my Vapman only and be perfectly content… :D
It's all about having the VAS or not and I have it from time to time when I am not feeling that good psychologically. Trying to fill voids inside me I guess… :p
The Vapman will not give you lung busting hits with flowers and be conservative at the same time like any other vape but with a low tolerance you can certainly take one hit and fell it good, it's hits are really potent and nothing is wasted in condensation as the vapor path is very short. I am sure that with the concentrate screens and BHO though you are into for some really nice fogging!
And yes! Basic all the way for me, a much better choice imho! :tup: I hope you join the club soon! :nod:
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The VM still gives bigger hits than the MFLB, though, from what I've seen online, right? How many hits would it take to "cash" a VM bowl? And a VM bowl is like 3x smaller than a full MFLB trench?

bounce5 said:
Vapman is also my one and only at the moment. I have a Vapman but never used it with BHO, but some others on here use it with all kinds of concentrates including BHO and hash and have sung the vapman's praises about it. @NorVape uses it with hash, you could look up his posts. And the basic vapman works just as well as the classic. The mica on the classic is mainly just for looks. It protects a bit from charring. The basic will charr a bit on the wood around the bottom where you aim the torch at the bowl. I have a classic, but if I was to do it over I may have gone with the basic walnut. I chose walnut over pear wood just because it's a better quality wood and I live in a humid area. I've read this entire thread, and the very few vapmen that ever do split or crack tend to be the pear model, so I went with walnut. But yeah, basic model is great and it sounds like it would work with what you want. Also if you find the vapor to be a bit harsh due to the short vapor path. Ed from tote'n'tokes makes longer wood stems, or you could get maybe a mflb stem. It also pairs well with a 14mm water pipe for cooler and smoother hits. If the charring is a concern this guy also sells basic Vapmen that he chars for a more even look and also adds laser etching. They are a bit more pricy, but incase you are interested...http://infinityvm.com/two-tone/
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Interesting point about the wood. I actually like the darker walnut look better anyway so it definitely may be worth the extra money. If other woods existed at the time I bought my MFLB, I'd probably have bought a walnut one.

OF said:
I think your thinking is basically solid but think you might be overlooking change over from oil to herb. It's not a simple matter as the the VM gets 'contaminated'. That might not be important to you but I found it troubling when I went to sample a new strain.

As far as stealth goes, I think VM is near the bottom of the scale. Guys smoking crack are harder to spot. Even if you don't know for sure what's going on, it's sure strange looking...... IMO a solid vape pen has it's place there. The VM is fine for sipping, of course.

The basic VM works well, as well as the classic one. At least at first. To me, the factory finish and Mica shield 'make the product' and the (to me) modest cost is OK. Not that others should make the same call, of course, it's subjective for sure. Perhaps you could use the 'saved money' for a solid pen?

I think your goal of replacing a gram of top shelf with .25 grams of BHO is good, perhaps even on the short side? While I understand there's a '7 to 1 rule' (seven grams of herb for a gram of concentrate) that rule is for production with 'regs' for the most part? That is the bud you buy by the gram is potent, perhaps nearing 20%. OTOH, those same shops sell concentrates nearing 100%. On average, I'd say it's more 'high teens' and 70% or so? However, ABV comes out 'with something left', not the case with concentrates.

And it's LOTS of fun running the experiments........

Best wishes.

OF
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Interesting point about BHO vs flower. I'm getting $50/3.5 flower and $40/1 g BHO, so I'm just hoping to keep my monthly expenses somewhat in check.

I guess I just don't have a good enough sense of the VM to understand its discreteness. However, the "quickness" of the process is important to me, aside from being discrete. I love how I can take a 3 second draw from the pen and get more medicated than standing around for minutes sipping (stacking hits to get bigger draws) on the MFLB. I'm assuming that I can get high quicker than the MFLB with flowers but maybe a little slower than a pen with wax? Can you completely vape a small dab in the VM in one hit or does it take multiple hits (and I'm talking smaller than BB size ball of wax).
 
Mr Mellish

Mr Mellish

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I_wanted_truth said:
The VM still gives bigger hits than the MFLB, though, from what I've seen online, right? How many hits would it take to "cash" a VM bowl? And a VM bowl is like 3x smaller than a full MFLB trench?
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In my experience, the VM destroys the MFLB. My MFLB has been gathering dust since I got the VM. I usually get 6-8 hits out of the VM with flower. With BHO...4 maybe??
 
VapeKnight

VapeKnight

Day Tripper
The question " is the Vapman a good choice ?" on this thread seems a little rhetorical . I'm not speaking for everyone, but it seem to me that we are all in love with this little gem. It's not the quick and discreet one hitter that competes with a product like the Grasshopper, however, it is a small load and certainly packs a punch. I find it more suitable to a leisure session. It performs well with most preferences and is always reliable. If you get one I'm willing to bet you will be satisfied .
 
Mr Mellish

Mr Mellish

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VapeKnight said:
The question " is the Vapman a good choice ?" on this thread seems a little rhetorical . I'm not speaking for everyone, but it seem to me that we are all in love with this little gem. It's not the quick and discreet one hitter that competes with a product like the Grasshopper, however, it is a small load and certainly packs a punch. I find it more suitable to a leisure session. It performs well with most preferences and is always reliable. If you get one I'm willing to bet you will be satisfied .
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One thing VM has over the GH is that you can actually get your hands on one. I'm sure @Mojo could have one to you in a couple days. My GH date just keeps slipping...
 
I_wanted_truth

I_wanted_truth

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VapeKnight said:
The question " is the Vapman a good choice ?" on this thread seems a little rhetorical . I'm not speaking for everyone, but it seem to me that we are all in love with this little gem. It's not the quick and discreet one hitter that competes with a product like the Grasshopper, however, it is a small load and certainly packs a punch. I find it more suitable to a leisure session. It performs well with most preferences and is always reliable. If you get one I'm willing to bet you will be satisfied .
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I definitely have been intrigued by the GH (follow it over on reddit), but am SUPER NOT impressed with all the delay. Makes me wonder if they got their shit together.

The promise of the "best vape of the future" that's just around the corner makes me want to wait. Hell, I already have the 100% guaranteed FC best vapes around: MFLB and Micro G :D:lol:. How can it get better than this?!
 
bounce5

bounce5

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Just one warning, don't ever use it with tobacco, because the tobacco scent and taste will stick. I was silly enough to do it a few times. I was able to salvage the middle piece by dipping it in acetone, but it's never been the same since. The middle piece got a wierd smell after that. Although, after running bud vapor through there over and over, I don't really notice it anymore. M0j0's website, the one I linked to you, is a good resource with videos on Vapman maintenance. It's been compared to a quality racing bike. It's good quality and sturdy, but you should be gentle and take care of her so that she will last a long time.
 
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RUDE BOY

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
I've run only around four grams of wax and near two grams of shatter through my VM and a whole lot of herbs since I've had it. Yesterday got one of them wild hairs to clean the middle section for the first time and took off the filter only to find the inside of the mid section blackened but remarkably clean, brushed it out with an NO2 brush and nothing actually was produced but a few specs of black dry dust. All the holes in the filter were still open but there was a little hard black residue built up on the back of it, torched it clean like new and put it back on. I'd say that's all the cleaning my middle section will need for another year or two.

Love how simple this little guy is to maintain. :tup:
 
bounce5

bounce5

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Mr Mellish said:
No harm! It was just too tempting to use it to slam my friend @Mojo. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
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Well affiliate links aren't allowed on here anyway. I just wanted to clarify that. It was mildy facetious but after I said that he has a great website and great products that are worth checking out...I thought that balanced it out. I orderd my vapman from him and had great service. Anyway, comment removed.
 
Enchantre

Enchantre

Oil Painter
M0J0 said:
You didn't have to remove it! It was funny as hell.

You just have to know that Mr Mellish is on the lookout to catch you with your pants down!

Gotta be careful with that guy!
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"plugging the guy" could mean shooting him, in some circles.
Phrases can be funny... puns carry their own sting ;)

I have a walnut basic and a pear classic, and both work amazingly well. I use flower, hash, sometimes concentrate/shatter/honey oil on a pair of screens (order a pack of 4 or 5, whatever they come in, when you order your VM), and it works great.

I have a much less sensitive schnoz, apparently, because I have no problem of switching back and forth, and I don't detect flavors hanging over from previous sessions.

Vapman - #grandmadabs_approves
 
natural farmer

natural farmer

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I_wanted_truth said:
I guess I just don't have a good enough sense of the VM to understand its discreteness. However, the "quickness" of the process is important to me, aside from being discrete. I love how I can take a 3 second draw from the pen and get more medicated than standing around for minutes sipping (stacking hits to get bigger draws) on the MFLB. I'm assuming that I can get high quicker than the MFLB with flowers but maybe a little slower than a pen with wax?
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OF said:
As far as stealth goes, I think VM is near the bottom of the scale. Guys smoking crack are harder to spot. Even if you don't know for sure what's going on, it's sure strange looking......
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Ι am sure the Vapman is much faster than MFLB to get you going with a quick draw or two and maybe as fast as a pen if you are using concentrate. With hash and reclaimed oil I can get monster clouds from the start and very very potent indeed! :nod:

As for stealthiness, I would disagree with OF cause it depends on the scenario… In a very quiet room or in the movies the loud click of the torch is certainly not stealthy at all BUT in a crowded place with people talking or with music playing or when you are outdoors with people more than a few meters away, the Vapman can be extremely discreet! More than a pen for sure! It can be torched very discreetly low and covered and then completely palmed when drawing so nobody sees anything… When I was vaping at work at the beach this summer no-one would ever notice anything weird! :tup:
 
I_wanted_truth

I_wanted_truth

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Thanks again to everyone for such great info.

VapeKnight said:
The question " is the Vapman a good choice ?" on this thread seems a little rhetorical . I'm not speaking for everyone, but it seem to me that we are all in love with this little gem. It's not the quick and discreet one hitter that competes with a product like the Grasshopper, however, it is a small load and certainly packs a punch. I find it more suitable to a leisure session. It performs well with most preferences and is always reliable. If you get one I'm willing to bet you will be satisfied .
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Haha. I really wasn't asking to hear myself type, or because I am looking for people to support my already-made-up mind. I figured ya'll would be honest, and maybe even critical of the idea if the VM wasn't really good for what I was looking to do.

bounce5 said:
Just one warning, don't ever use it with tobacco, because the tobacco scent and taste will stick. I was silly enough to do it a few times. I was able to salvage the middle piece by dipping it in acetone, but it's never been the same since. The middle piece got a wierd smell after that. Although, after running bud vapor through there over and over, I don't really notice it anymore. M0j0's website, the one I linked to you, is a good resource with videos on Vapman maintenance. It's been compared to a quality racing bike. It's good quality and sturdy, but you should be gentle and take care of her so that she will last a long time.
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Thanks, but def not a nictotine user.

RUDE BOY said:
I've run only around four grams of wax and near two grams of shatter through my VM and a whole lot of herbs since I've had it. Yesterday got one of them wild hairs to clean the middle section for the first time and took off the filter only to find the inside of the mid section blackened but remarkably clean, brushed it out with an NO2 brush and nothing actually was produced but a few specs of black dry dust. All the holes in the filter were still open but there was a little hard black residue built up on the back of it, torched it clean like new and put it back on. I'd say that's all the cleaning my middle section will need for another year or two.

Love how simple this little guy is to maintain. :tup:
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I really like this idea that the VM has some longevity. And the ability to service and clean it.

Enchantre said:
"plugging the guy" could mean shooting him, in some circles.
Phrases can be funny... puns carry their own sting ;)

I have a walnut basic and a pear classic, and both work amazingly well. I use flower, hash, sometimes concentrate/shatter/honey oil on a pair of screens (order a pack of 4 or 5, whatever they come in, when you order your VM), and it works great.

I have a much less sensitive schnoz, apparently, because I have no problem of switching back and forth, and I don't detect flavors hanging over from previous sessions.

Vapman - #grandmadabs_approves
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Can you get a big concentrate hit from the VM? Equal to what you could get from a pen (if you have ever used one)?

Coming from the MFLB whose trench is always resinous from the previous session, I like you, am not that worried about flavor contamination maybe.

natural farmer said:
Ι am sure the Vapman is much faster than MFLB to get you going with a quick draw or two and maybe as fast as a pen if you are using concentrate. With hash and reclaimed oil I can get monster clouds from the start and very very potent indeed! :nod:

As for stealthiness, I would disagree with OF cause it depends on the scenario… In a very quiet room or in the movies the loud click of the torch is certainly not stealthy at all BUT in a crowded place with people talking or with music playing or when you are outdoors with people more than a few meters away, the Vapman can be extremely discreet! More than a pen for sure! It can be torched very discreetly low and covered and then completely palmed when drawing so nobody sees anything… When I was vaping at work at the beach this summer no-one would ever notice anything weird! :tup:
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Interesting! Thanks again.



Dang, man. I'm looking at everyone's collection in their signatures and was researching the Vapcap. That thing looks sweet! You tried yours yet?
 
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natural farmer

natural farmer

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I_wanted_truth said:
Dang, man. I'm looking at everyone's collection in their signatures and was researching the Vapcap. That thing looks sweet! You tried yours yet?
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I have been playing with it today and while it's quite fun, it will certainly don't dethrone Vapman for daily use. Vapman has a more open airflow and can forgive a mistake much easier than the Vapcap. A load lasts longer in the Vapman as well and the taste is better overall... Those are my findings so far. But it is effective! Crazy effective! :ko:
 
OF

OF

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Gourmet said:
Does it works with the Jetlighter (you may say probably Torch) at this high feet above sea level?
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Yes. Provided it's at least warm so there's pressure in the lighter. Guys up there light cigarettes with 'em (even though they shouldn't), right?

The Hammer guys took their unit up with some skydivers (basically the same deal, but the lighter is built in), IIRC they took it to 16,000 feet. Not to worry, enjoy it instead?

OF
 
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macca924

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I have just purchased a vapman Classic to use Mainly as a hash vape.i noticed lots of reccomedations on this forum of it being the best vape for hash

Does anyone have any tips for using the unit with hash,I purchased a set of concentrate screens also

I will be using Moroccan hash and Nepalese and afghan and wondering the best way to vape it.are people using one screen or sandwiching between 2 screens ? Also use a lump of hash or break into small pieces

Thanks
 
Nugg

Nugg

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Welcome @macca924. Congratulations on your purchase. You will love it.

I only have only used oil and keif in mine. With oil I put 2 screens in, then the oil, then another screen. After recommendations from member here I have been using keif straight in the bowl.

For traditional type hashes @NorVape vape is your man.

Maybe try sandwiched between 2 screen and try it straight in the bowl. See which you like best.

The vapman is fun to experiment with :science: There is no wrong way.
 
OF

OF

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Rene from Germany said:
oh i think i know what you mean.Must be that stuff women use to remove makup.is it?
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I'd be very careful here. Please re read carefully what the man said:

natural farmer said:
You are welcome my friend! :) The purest you can find I guess? Organic? I use normal cotton from supermarkets or pharmacies as I can't source any organic one locally...
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He said "the purest you can find". Pads and 'puffs' intended to remove makeup often contain polyester and other fibers to make them more effective in that role. Some I saw claimed 'reclaimed fiber' (whatever that is). This renders them useless/dangerous to vape with IMO. As NF says 'purest' not easiest to find. Caution is advised.

If possible I'd go with 'medical grade' from a pharmacy, second best is packing from vitamins and such, but again be careful it's pure cotton. Not only will plastic be dangerous to you, but it'll make your VM very hard to clean........

OF
 
Rene from Germany

Rene from Germany

Member
OF said:
I'd be very careful here. Please re read carefully what the man said:



He said "the purest you can find". Pads and 'puffs' intended to remove makeup often contain polyester and other fibers to make them more effective in that role. Some I saw claimed 'reclaimed fiber' (whatever that is). This renders them useless/dangerous to vape with IMO. As NF says 'purest' not easiest to find. Caution is advised.

If possible I'd go with 'medical grade' from a pharmacy, second best is packing from vitamins and such, but again be careful it's pure cotton. Not only will plastic be dangerous to you, but it'll make your VM very hard to clean........

OF
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thanx,yeah sure i will get it from a medical store.
I was just wondering what he meant with "cotton".Now i am sure it must be that white fluffy stuff.well, pretty sure but not quite:sherlock:
 
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OF

OF

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Rene from Germany said:
I was just wondering what he meant with "cotton".Now i am sure it must be that white fluffy stuff.well, pretty sure but not quite:sherlock:
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Yes, it's a fluffy fiber that has basically replaced flax and wool as the natural fiber used in clothing. It's what your Levi's trousers and underwear are probably made of. The form you're looking for looks like the photos here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton

You get it 'combed out' (seeds removed, fibers aligned) but it's basically 'fluffy white stuff'. Just be careful they don't blend other stuff in with it. You want the pure version.

FWIW in VM I think the concentrate screens work better.

OF
 
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macca924

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Nugg said:
Welcome @macca924. Congratulations on your purchase. You will love it.

I only have only used oil and keif in mine. With oil I put 2 screens in, then the oil, then another screen. After recommendations from member here I have been using keif straight in the bowl.

For traditional type hashes @NorVape vape is your man.

Maybe try sandwiched between 2 screen and try it straight in the bowl. See which you like best.

The vapman is fun to experiment with :science: There is no wrong way.
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Thanks I will try it sandwiched In-between 2 screens.im worried the Nepalese hash will gunk up the bowl etc

Hopefully @NorVape will be able to help

Cheers guys
 
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