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Driving whilst high

nosmoking

Just so Dab HAppy!
Personally based on my own experiences only, I think it is ok but for many it will not be. I have ridden with many people when they were getting high as they were driving and very rarely felt unsafe. If I did, it was most likely because the person was really dumb and destined for disaster or on other substances while driving.
 
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Reliable ShotZ

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As a Youngster I always used to do it and always felt in control. Driving was second nature and getting high was second nature back then and Im quite happy to be a passenger if both those conditions are met. The problem is not everyone is a good driver and not everyone can handle their bud. I must agree with an earlier post in this thread, to put it bluntly driving high made me less of an impatient knob that was perhaps cutting others up.
 
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RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Everyone who just replied didn't answer the question... It wasn't what you felt about driving high. It was if you thought getting high while driving was also ok.


I don't believe doing anything that distracts you from driving is OK, that goes for getting high, eating, phone use, arguing with others in a car, playing air guitar or drums to your favorite tune or anything else that takes your eyes off the road and mind elsewhere.

( I myself never ride with people who have kids in the car either. Young couples with kids seem some of the worst drivers I've ridden with, kids are a major distraction)

(ok so I can't stand being around pre-teens in any situation. ... So shoot me )


But to sum it up;
When your behind the wheel your focus should be on driving, Period. ... as I see it anyways.

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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
When I was young, invincible, self-centered and just starting out with MJ, among other drugs, I would have said, 'I paid for the car, the insurance and the MJ and I'll do what the fuck I want and if you don't like it..... don't get in my car or on the road with me'.

When I got into my mid-twenties, got serious about accomplishing things, and began to understand the value of a life and a dollar I would have said, 'I can/will drive high and I'm gonna be careful and I'm not going to mix it with alcohol or other drugs'.

When I got into my thirties I almost got busted in my car during a street corner purchase and decided not to carry MJ with me while driving. I only drove 'mildly' high because the paranoia associated with that potential bust and everything I could have lost because of it..... took awhile to wear off.

By the time I got into my forties I was back to feeling comfortable driving beyond a mild buzz but still not comfortable enough to drive with any MJ in the car. Still did bring some in the car but rarely.

It's just recently that I didn't gauge my buzz sufficiently and found myself behind the wheel when I shouldn't have been. So after four decades of being pretty confident I could drive high, I decided not to anymore and have stuck to my guns. The scary part for me was that it wasn't until I was driving that I realized I shouldn't be.

So.................I knew driving while high would be a good debate, because, as I've stated above, depending on when in my life you asked me that question I would have given you a different answer.

What I didn't see coming ........ I can't believe we are seriously going to debate the validity of getting high while actually driving.
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
If you've been using cannabis, too tired or just plain pissed off at somebody and you realize that driving is too difficult turn around or pull over. I agree with @RUDE BOY some of the worst drivers on the road are young distracted parents.

Let us not forget the teenage driver, as I believe you should be 18 to drive IMO.

Self judgement is the only option out there. You have to make that decision for yourself - it may not be the best but that's all we have @EverythingsHazy
 

grokit

well-worn member
If you've been using cannabis, too tired or just plain pissed off at somebody and you realize that driving is too difficult turn around or pull over. I agree with @RUDE BOY some of the worst drivers on the road are young distracted parents.

Let us not forget the teenage driver, as I believe you should be 18 to drive IMO.

Self judgement is the only option out there. You have to make that decision for yourself - it may not be the best but that's all we have @EverythingsHazy
I would say that if you're really pissed off then you need to pull over and get high immediately before getting back on the road, in consideration of other drivers' safety of course :tup:

They're already making breathalyzer/apps for smartphones, so I'm sure that "thc self-judgement" devices & software will be coming along someday as well in this new self-assessed world of ours.
 
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ZC

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I say no, because there is no point, and it's a distraction with potential vision blurring/ head rush causing effects. If you need to be high all the time, then you can park for a minute, stpe out of the car, toke,and get back in. I'm not saying I agree with driving high (I still don't), but if it's legal, I still don't think getting high while driving should be.

TBH I only have ever experienced the head rush you talk about when I was a new user, and have only experienced blurred vision when I had smoked way too much. I don't think medical/heavy recreational users experience these things. You keep talking about cannabis like it's incredibly unpredictable and debilitating, but for heavy users it simply isn't. When you vape every day or nearly every day, usually form the same strains and even the same harvest that you're familiar with, cannabis is incredibly predictable.

The way you talk about this suggests peoiple will randomly be surprised by how cannabis effects them, but I don't believe that's a factor for anyone but very light recreational users.

So to answer your question no, I don't think vaping while driving is a huge issue, the only question to me is impairment. If smoking tobacco while driving isn't considered distracted driving or unsafe, neither should vaping. (assuming we allow being high while driving). If vaping/smoking while driving brings impairment to a typical user, then no, they shouldn't do it. But it doesn't matter when they are getting high, it matters if they're impaired while driving.

Let us not forget the teenage driver, as I believe you should be 18 to drive IMO.
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First off I don't think "teenagers are dangerous drivers" is really relevant here, but secondly I don't agree with the idea that you should be 18 to learn to drive. I think it's much better to learn driving earlier while the brain is still developing. I do think teens can be reckless and I'm all for the permit time being extended (It already has been, when I was a teenager it switched from a 6 month permit to 1 year) so that the parents or gaurdians are present to help guide the driver into having good driving habits. But again I stress that learning such an important skill late in life doesn't sound like a productive solution.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The reason I brought up drivers under 18 is because they are a major cause of accidents and often make irresponsible decisions. Agreed has nothing to do with driving under the influence of cannabis but I'm sure plenty do so and are irresponsible at the same time.

I also agree teens should have early driving instruction and possibly a driver's permit.

I don't agree with driving if you are totally wrecked on cannabis. Most folks that are a seasoned user can usually tell if they have had too much.

Edibles are a whole different thing entirely. They take hours to kick in and is so dependent on what is in your stomach, they can be unpredictable.

We will all just agree that some will disagree on this subject. Have a wonderful safe evening.

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Referring to edibles that have cannabis oil in them.

I'm not promoting the act of vaporizing while driving.

Also I'm not saying it should be legal to drive while extremely high. There isn't a sufficient test that will register the levels of debilitating cannabis in ones body as of yet.
 
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EverythingsHazy

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TBH I only have ever experienced the head rush you talk about when I was a new user, and have only experienced blurred vision when I had smoked way too much. I don't think medical/heavy recreational users experience these things. You keep talking about cannabis like it's incredibly unpredictable and debilitating, but for heavy users it simply isn't. When you vape every day or nearly every day, usually form the same strains and even the same harvest that you're familiar with, cannabis is incredibly predictable.

The way you talk about this suggests peoiple will randomly be surprised by how cannabis effects them, but I don't believe that's a factor for anyone but very light recreational users.

So to answer your question no, I don't think vaping while driving is a huge issue, the only question to me is impairment. If smoking tobacco while driving isn't considered distracted driving or unsafe, neither should vaping. (assuming we allow being high while driving). If vaping/smoking while driving brings impairment to a typical user, then no, they shouldn't do it. But it doesn't matter when they are getting high, it matters if they're impaired while driving.


You don't have to be a new/light user to have a stronger effect one day than the others. You can just be less hydrated, have lower/higher blood sugar/pressure, have another condition/issue starting up, etc.. Just look at the quote below from @His_Highness
It's just recently that I didn't gauge my buzz sufficiently and found myself behind the wheel when I shouldn't have been. So after four decades of being pretty confident I could drive high, I decided not to anymore and have stuck to my guns. The scary part for me was that it wasn't until I was driving that I realized I shouldn't be.

I wish I had a super low tolerance like a lot of people on here who only vape once a day max. There is a huge difference in how impairing I find cannabis since the beginning, when I wouldn't go outside for a full 3 hours after vaping a few hits, and I am pretty sure I can handle cannabis better than most people I know personally.
However, even on the same plant, buds can have different potency. When you start using different strains, taking different sized hits, etc., it just becomes even more inaccurate. There are far too many chemicals in cannabis to easily measure each dose to make sure it is exactly like the last. If you grind up an entire ounce mix it up really well, and then break it into equal parts, you'll have a more uniform experience with each dose, but that still can't account for biological changes that can cause the effect to vary.

I am not saying it is "incredibly unpredictable and debilitating", but I'm also not saying that it has to be so extreme, for it to be dangerous on the road. Eating food from a takeout container has no psychoactive effects, and isn't incredibly unpredictable or debilitating, but I think people should be punished for doing so while driving. It's distracting, isn't necessary, and can cause death to other people. Smoking/vaping is basically like all the other distracting things people do, with the added psychoactive aspect.



I don't think there is any point in making it legal to get high while driving, because:

1. It's not needed. I've yet to meet someone or even read about someone in a cannabis miracle story, that needs to be puffing away every waking minute. I've met people who claim to need to be high, but that's different. You can be high without being in the act of getting high. If anyone knows someone who will suffer serious medical problems from not consuming cannabis for an hour or two, aside from some discomfort that will be remedied as soon as they smoke again, please do share that with me.

2. The come-up to me is different than just riding out your high. When you are sober, you are sober. When you are high, you are high. When you are smoking, you are transitioning from sober to high, or from high to higher, and that isn't something that needs to be taking place in your brain while you are driving.
 

grokit

well-worn member
Don't you think that increased insurance premiums and dmv points are pretty self-regulating in this respect? If you can't handle whateverthehellyou'reon, eventually the law of averages will catch up with you. With increased premiums, suspended/revoked licenses, fines etc. the risk to others is diluted, and the penalties and consequences already happening may be the best we can hope for within reason.

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Tldr; a self-policing system with workable checks and balances is already in place :2c:
 
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ZC

Well-Known Member
Don't you think that increased insurance premiums and dmv points are pretty self-regulating in this respect? If you can't handle whateverthehellyou'reon, eventually the law of averages will catch up with you. With increased premiums, suspended/revoked licenses, fines etc. the risk to others is diluted, and the penalties and consequences already happening may be the best we can hope for within reason.

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Tldr; a self-policing system with workable checks and balances is already in place :2c:

I mean no, I don't think insurance premiums and dmv points are enough because when those things go into effect someone has already fucked up and possibly hurt someone with their irresponsible behavior.
 

Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
This thread feels like a roundabout. Straight forward and perfectly clear.
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killick

But I like it!
That looks like the one in Colchester - it's pretty much chaos, especially for us North Americans who aren't used to shifting with left hand. Before each signal for a turn you need to turn your wipers on and off first, and then switch to the other side and use the blinker switch ;)

Nope - thats Birmingham, home of the Magic Roundabout! No thanks... life is just too short :)

Not related at all, but I had an RX7 when I lived in the UK, and that was fun to race through roundabouts at high speed (0300isg).

If anyone is visiting there and you want to really annoy the locals - drive right overtop of the bump in the middle of the roundie - they really hate that, but do love to complain about tire tracks and tourists to their mates in the pub...
 
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theCerberus

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So what's the outcome. I'm dying to know if I can drive high or not.

Driving and using machines

Nabilone Capsules may cause side effects such as sleepiness, confusion, hallucinations, a feeling of dizziness or spinning, poor muscle co-ordination, problems with your sight and problems with concentration. These side effects may occur up to 3 days after taking Nabilone. This may affect your ability to operate machinery. Do not operate machinery if you experience any of these side effects.

The medicine can affect your ability to drive as it may make you sleepy or dizzy.

Do not drive while taking this medicine until you know how it affects you.

It is an offence to drive if this medicine affects your ability to drive.


However, you would not be committing an offence if: -

The medicine has been prescribed to treat a medical or dental problem and

  • You have taken it according to the instructions given by the prescriber or in the information provided with the medicine and
  • It was not affecting your ability to drive safely
Talk to your doctor or pharmacist if you are not sure whether it is safe for you to drive while taking this medicine.


http://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/20516

Nabilone is a cannabinoid that gets you high. There's your answer.
 
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hibeam

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One afternoon when I was feeling a bit burned out and not high at all, while I was driving down a busy connector road close to home, about three long blocks up I saw a school bus stopped in the oncoming lane. It had the red stop sign engaged by the bus driver window. The car in front of me proceeded and so did I. Then the bus did something really weird. It pulled away from the curb after no kids were unloaded and proceeded to drive toward us with the big red stop sign still engaged. It was still two blocks up when it pulled over, its red lights flashing as it stopped and did not unload any kids again. It pulled away from the curb, its red lights continuing to flash, and again it proceeded without disengaging the stop sign, as if it were stuck. The car ahead of me suddenly zipped forward, leaving me totally confused with a long line of rush hour cars behind me. New to the area, I could recognize no indications of any bus stops nearby. Suddenly the bus was in front of me and pulling over again. I stopped, but as I did the bus driver honked at me. Maybe if an leo were around the bus driver would have been detained for never disengaging the stop sign, but maybe I would have been found at fault. The whole thing was so twilight zone, as if I were supposed to stop a third of a mile away and wait for the bus driver to unload nobody for almost four long blocks. What about the car in front of me who did not stop until two blocks up much closer to the bus? My point is, reality on the road can be so wacky sometimes. Would I have been more or less confused/careful if I had been high? Who knows.
 
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hibeam

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Presidential candidates will not debate this topic, so it is up to us. Just do not drive where there will be any other cars.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
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I live in WA state just south of Seattle. We got round a bouts here 15 years ago, folks had a fit at first. Instead of adding lights the area decided to go with the European way - it hasn't turned out too bad. It helped with traffic, but it's still pretty congested. Folks love their cars. We have a lot of bike routes too. It's hard getting around in the winter on bikes but folks do.

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Thought I would add the stupid sign - "big secret"
 
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kellya86

Herb gardener...
Didn't think you had roundabouts in America. Thought it was a Europe thing. I live next to the town with the first ever roundabout in letchworth uk.

Didn't think you really did corners of any sort in usa. Which is why your car's are all crap unless your going in a straight line.
 
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