KidFated.
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They must just be out of stock. I'm sure there will be more made, but I wouldn't bet on it being very soon. I could be wrong.
Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci
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Treeburner
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I think DV may be having issues with their website - looked at custom Ascent two weeks ago, then went to order and that option was gone. Checked a few days later and the custom Ascents are back, but the Add to Cart button is missing for them.
Try contacting their customer support via the live chat on their website. They are very helpful, and should be able to tell you for sure what's up with the spacers.
-Treeburner
Try contacting their customer support via the live chat on their website. They are very helpful, and should be able to tell you for sure what's up with the spacers.
-Treeburner
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That's not a defect and should not effect the way your unit functions in any way.
Hmmm... I just looked on the site and noticed the spacers are indeed absent! I may have the very last glass spacer, possibly ever..
It was actually a sample before we got them made. We sent all the spacers to our U.S. office and I needed one out here in China so I have the sample spacer which was the last one in our factory.I'll reach out and see what's going on with the spacers. If we sold out I would be surprised. I suspect there's something else going on, no one ever tells me anything
Updates for you guys soon!!
Treeburner
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Received my red and white/silver carbon fiber Ascent today and it looks great! Doing the initial burn in now, but need to wait until later to christen it since I'll have to share the 14mm adapter with my other Ascent for now: Unfortunately they sent the wrong GonG, sent the U instead of the straight so I can't use the hydrotube with it and am stuck with the stock, less effective mouthpiece for now. Fortunately, knowing DV's customer service I'm sure they'll make things right.
-Treeburner
-Treeburner
I got my hands on a hydrotube out here in Shenzhen and when I did the only water tool I could find was a U-tool since our warehouse had been locked up for the day. I used it for a few days with a hydrotube before getting a straight tool. Why do you think the U-tool wont work for you?
Treeburner
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I guess it would work if I held the Ascent upside down, but I'd be concerned about the awkwardness of the weight on the joint. The Ascent with the U adapter can't be sat on a flat surface, so I'd be forced to hold the vaporizer that entire time. Plus if I use the U adapter I'll have to clean it thoroughly before I send it back for exchange.
Thanks,
Treeburner
Thanks,
Treeburner
I would not recommend setting the Ascent down with the straight tool and the hydrotube either. I've broken many, many hydrotubes using the Ascent haha, never broken a water tool though. I suggest using both hands when using a hydrotube and the Ascent no matter what adapter you are using. If the weight is a concern, you should look into a wood water tool from Ed.
Treeburner
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No surprise at all, Davinci CS got back to me quickly and is going to send the straight adapter. Have been using the standard mouthpiece in the meantime, and it's working very well and getting me extremely medicated.
Also, I can't get over how well my custom Ascent looks - loving the white and silver carbon fiber, which contrasts the red base beautifully! The chrome trim is a nice addition, but black trim would have matched the black seam between the upper and lower pieces.
Can't find anything wrong with either of our Ascents, and they both get me and my fiancée higher than the equivalent amount combusted. So happy with the vape that I invested in an Arizer Extreme Q, should be here Friday or Saturday so can't wait to try out a desktop unit!
-Treeburner
Also, I can't get over how well my custom Ascent looks - loving the white and silver carbon fiber, which contrasts the red base beautifully! The chrome trim is a nice addition, but black trim would have matched the black seam between the upper and lower pieces.
Can't find anything wrong with either of our Ascents, and they both get me and my fiancée higher than the equivalent amount combusted. So happy with the vape that I invested in an Arizer Extreme Q, should be here Friday or Saturday so can't wait to try out a desktop unit!
-Treeburner
sickmanfraud
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Tree burner, spend a few minutes checking out the Extreme Q thread. Also, see the DDave thread in vapor related equipment.
How about a picture of your new toy?
You will enjoy the Q.
Almost forgot to shoutout a big THANKS to DV. my stealth Ascent died. The repaired unit got lost in the mail. DV sent me a new Stealth Ascent. No off gassing at all.
Seeing how white the oven is made me realize how discolored my carbon fiber Ascent 's oven is.
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Am deciding whether to get the Ascent. One thing that got me worried were all the, admittedly old, posts talking about toxic smells. From what I could gather there were 2 possible pathways:
- the top seal for the glass mouthpiece, which many people modded.
- maybe even worse, one person thought that gasses maybe getting in between the two glass sleeves.
Wondered if anyone who owns one could say if the top seal still a problem? Also if anyone else thinks gasses could enter the join between top and bottom glass tube? I suppose even if both these scenarios were true, Davinci would be telling the truth when they say,
‘Everything that your vapor touches from the heating element up to the mouthpiece is 100% pure glass’
- the top seal for the glass mouthpiece, which many people modded.
- maybe even worse, one person thought that gasses maybe getting in between the two glass sleeves.
Wondered if anyone who owns one could say if the top seal still a problem? Also if anyone else thinks gasses could enter the join between top and bottom glass tube? I suppose even if both these scenarios were true, Davinci would be telling the truth when they say,
‘Everything that your vapor touches from the heating element up to the mouthpiece is 100% pure glass’
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Happy Friday Ascent owners. @iBeta Welcome to Fuckcombustion. Dont worry about the posts that were from the beginning when the Ascent first came out. The company has fixed most of the bugs. That happens often with a new vaporizer. It sometimes takes a while to get the bugs worked out. It should be pretty smooth sailing now. Some folks are more sensitive to smells also. We arent seeing very many faulty units anymore on the forum.
My unit is 2 years old and it still works just fine. The battery length is about 1/2 as when it was new but that is to be expected. I get about 50 min of vaporizing on the battery now. Davinci has a program that you can pay and get a new battery and a checkup for your Ascent I believe it was $60 but don't quote me on that.
What I like best about this vaporizer is that you can set your oven to the exact temperature that you want also with the all glass oven and vapor path it produces great flavor. It's small enough to curl up on the couch with and watch TV. Or it's portable enough to take it on a road trip or a night on the town. This is a great portable to have.
Black Friday sales will be starting in almost a month, often we see 20% off many of the online sites. Puffitup sells the Ascent, Randy the owner gives stellar customer service and he has good prices too.
My unit is 2 years old and it still works just fine. The battery length is about 1/2 as when it was new but that is to be expected. I get about 50 min of vaporizing on the battery now. Davinci has a program that you can pay and get a new battery and a checkup for your Ascent I believe it was $60 but don't quote me on that.
What I like best about this vaporizer is that you can set your oven to the exact temperature that you want also with the all glass oven and vapor path it produces great flavor. It's small enough to curl up on the couch with and watch TV. Or it's portable enough to take it on a road trip or a night on the town. This is a great portable to have.
Black Friday sales will be starting in almost a month, often we see 20% off many of the online sites. Puffitup sells the Ascent, Randy the owner gives stellar customer service and he has good prices too.
Thanks.
Guess I just needed reassurance – it does look like a well designed device.
Ok, can that be paid at anytime? I mean could the extra warranty be bought after problems begin, or must it be got when buying the vape?
I live in the EU, but think can get around 10% off over here.
Am already sold, it was between this and the PAX2 - the glass pathway hooked me. Thanks for the great information!
OF
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IIRC it has to be within 60 days of initial purchase. I can't find it listed on their web site so either check with them or dig back a few months to where the maker informed us of this program. There's a similar program for extending the normal 2 year warranty.
'Flat rate repair offers' are different, this is insurance. Legally, I don't think it's a warranty since it wasn't part of the purchase contract (new buy). The can offer 'warranty level protection' but as I understand such things here it's insurance not a warranty or extending one that already exists as a result of the 'fine print' in the original sale.
But no, waiting until your really sick and then buying retroactive 'pre existing condition' insurance only works with 'Obamacare', our seriously flawed attempt at Socialized Medicine. Otherwise it's traditional to buy car insurance before a wreck and Life Insurance while you're still alive I think?
OF
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Hi. The mating between the two glass stems is of course not air tight, they are telescopic and it's not a GonG joint. This is by design and will not change. So yes, air from the center section will be sucked in through that gap.
Now the problem is that this center section "tube" is not perfectly isolated from the electronics nearby due to a design flaw in the buddy rim silicone piece (the top stuff holding the upper stem) To my knowledge, DaVinci folks are pretty much aware of the problem but never acknowledged it in public. I was told in private that they were trying to fix it, but they haven't released anything official for the old devices owners and so far we have no confirmation that any fix has been implemented in new devices.
This is why most of us are using one DIY fix or another to solve the problem. You can put a o-ring under the rim (better seal but risky and comes with problems) or a o-ring over the rim (worse seal but easier to implement), or use the GonG adapter in place of the upper straw (kinda okish seal, less transportable and easier to break) or just find the glass straw pair having the best match (worst seal of all, doesn't really solve the problem for me)
But keep in mind the main issue here is not the electronics proximity, it's the fact that this extra fresh air dilutes your vapor and creates a suboptimal vapor/air ratio. The foul smells are a completely different issue and are due to the silicone they use. It might be food grade but it stinks. They tell it's ok, it surely is, but I have since got in my hands many other devices with some silicone pieces inside, and none of them reeked that much. So I know it's perfectly possible to get silicone with a neutral smell, it's just not the case with the one they use.
And to conclude, everything that the vapor touches is glass, silicone and plastic (from the inner tube) That sentence is false advertizing I'm sorry. I advise you to have a look at the FlowerMate 5-Pro, as it quickly replaced my Ascent as my daily driver.
Ok, thanks. I thought I'd read where someone did this after battery problems but clearly not.
Then it is extra interesting to find out if the battery can be accessed by the user? If so it should be a simple matter to do a replacement sans DaVinci.
I also thought someone had posted that using it plugged in 80-90% of the time will considerably extend battery life. That would also help since I plan to use it mostly at home, but I think it depends on the charging circuitry. A definitive answer on this from DaVinci would be great .
Hmm, but it could be argued that your attempt at Privatised Medicine has not worked out so good, for those without $$$$$$$'s anyway.
Please do not turn this thread into a debate over American health care. We have a Lounge for that sort of thing.
Oh good grief, I missed this post. If 'air' can get in via the tube mating then it is a deal breaker. Maybe explains the guy in the review who stated a silicon taste can occur as the bowl becomes completely empty.
Do remember a rep from Davinci explaining that the curing process had been moved to the US, after problems with the silicon cured in China. Are you sure you don't have an older model?
Actually the PAX2 was going to be second choice - they state medical grade materials etc. But to what extent can any of these manufacturers be trusted?
Anyway thanks for the information, even if it was not what I wanted to hear.
OF
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As far as we know, it is not possible. First off, nobody has figured out how to get it apart other than the fellow who used his dog......the dog got it open, but it didn't survive. Then you'd be faced by the 'special batteries soldered in' problem like we face with Solo, Puffit, FM, the other DaVinci, Pentium and so on.
No, I don't agree that 'leaving it plugged in most of the time' is good for long battery life, in fact, just the opposite. IMO that's the worst thing you can do. Simply leaving the battery 100% charged (and never using it) will kill the battery in short order. Stopping charging at 90% (unplugging it) rather than letting it go 'all the way' will DOUBLE the battery life. Honest. Drop it another 10% and it doubles again. Charging to 80% when needed and unplugging means losing 20% per charge (say a single session) but four times more charges. You can do the math........ This is not an Ascent only deal, it has to do with the battery type, all vapes using these types follow the same rules. I'm sure you know a cell phone, laptop or some similar unit that was left on the charger 'ready to go' that now has useless battery life? That's why. Check out the text around table 4 for more on this:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Due to working on this with Solo I built an external charge controller. It automatically disconnects charging (12 VDC in that case) early. It worked so well there that when I got my own Ascent I modified an old prototype of 'the Gadget' to work at lower voltage:
The prototype Gadget is on top, the bottom is a voltage regulator to reduce the 12 Volts for Ascent and (of course) it uses the even smaller power connector. Pushing the blue button starts a charge cycle that automatically ends at the level set by the adjustment next to the button. It beeps to tell you it's done charging and, since the last part of charging is slower, it cuts about half an hour off of every charge you do. The same modified Gadget pictured also works with my FM V5.Os and FM Pro BTW. They use the same voltage and connector for their chargers.
Again, I don't recommend routinely leaving it plugged in. IMO it's probably the worst routine to use for most cases.
Enjoy your Ascent. Be sure to get and try the glass flowers, they do make a substantial improvement in vapor density (more clouds on less bud for a shorter time). Many on this Forum have done so and AFAIK nobody reported not liking the results???
OF
sickmanfraud
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I just received my new Stealth Ascent. My original was sent in and the new unit was due to my unit getting lost in the mail.
There was 0 off gassing. The Air path is totally Glass there is no silicone taste or smell. The electronics on the Ascent are isolated from the Air path.
If the telescoping mouthpiece worries you you could always use the straight water tool as a mouthpiece.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Ok I give up! Believe what you want to believe.
JamesTiberiousKirk
Well-Known Member
RE: Spacers. I am seeing a healthy supply at my local smoke shop. I am still using the 'test' spacers I received gratefully from davinci. They help mightily for us light weights.
Yes, but I think many internal charging circuits are designed to charge the Lion batteries to no more than 80%. Are you sure the Ascent does not do that?
Looks nice, is that a 8-bit AVR? Though I guess if any manufacturer actually allows them to charge to 100%, they are probably aware that the battery life will be reduced.
Others have mentioned this, and it sort of stands to reason that two glass pieces designed to slide apart will not be 100% airtight. Maybe if the manufacturer had placed a SS tube around the glass, stretching from oven to mouthpiece this would not be a problem.
OF
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Yes, I'm quite sure it doesn't. Specifically confirmed with the maker in fact. He gets the idea, and may include it later, or so he said.
In general, no, no commercial product I know of is limited in this way (shorter battery life), sales would never allow it...... In fact, I know of no charge controllers for commercial use set this low (generally in the 4.10 to 4.25 range including tolerances). An example would be TP4056.
OTOH, Military gear that use the same batteries are specified at something like 3.92 Volts, they will accept shorter run times for longer service life in the field.
Sorry, I don't follow the question? Can you please restate it? TIA
I maintain that basically ALL makers go for the maximum charge, in fact the ThermoVape charger for Cera was picked specifically for that (highest average terminal voltage of the units they tested). Think about it for a minute......higher voltage means more run time per charge and more (sooner) battery replacement sales. Which side do you think 'the Suits' (Sales) is on? Me too.
So much so 'nobody' makes a Li-ion charge control IC for reduced voltages, nobody would buy them.
OF
You can purchase the extra warranty anytime. The 60 days clause is that you have to use the warranty within 60 days of purchasing the service. So after you buy the warranty, you have about two months to send the unit in for repair.
We do our silicone curing here in our factory in Shenzhen. We have a room dedicated towards "sensitive materials." In this room we have our insulation assembly and silicone curing. The silicone is put through a thorough boiling treatment as well as an autoclave treatment, and that's what we do in house. Of course there are treatments by our supplier before we receive the silicone.
When materials get hot, they smell like what they are. After some breaking in, the silicone begins to smell like the material you are using, you just have to use the unit and not be afraid of the, lets call it "new car smell" of the Ascent.
Couldn't have said it better myself.