My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

invisiblefriend

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Manufacturer
@AnthoFranco ... thx for bring this up ----

we have had some amazing luck in this category although of course most sales seem to currently be for straight concentrates --

but once u start breaking it down -- thinning out / using cbd additives / using PG / and
even using extra terpenes and extra essential oils in the mix --- these all thin down the medicine !
but it can still stay between thin thin ..... and a creamy thick consistency ---


we made 2 different models -- the bottom one I feel it the best all around --- and just as compact --
but -- here are the major differences --- any questions plz just ask !


our Glass AIR unit uses the familiar setup -- and it is glass so you can look right in and re-use and re-fill from above by removing the stainless steel tip -- as you get inside it is the only product that we use high quality ni-chrome as the heating element (@ request we can use titanium2) but in this case we have swapped out the wicking with true porous ceramic wick --

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.. this is a closeup of the actual ceramic wick once I removed all the parts surrounding -- ---
the above is this model http://kindmdvapes.com/shop/kimdmd-glass-air/

and it is a very nice small cartridge ---

but IMO and after a lot of testing in and out of our lab ..... the "KindMD traditional may be more what is in search of on this thread --

"the traditional" is our newest --- test has been tested the longest -- we were trying to build an all around cartridge for all types thin and thick ! ---
I started on early models and re-purposed e-cog models -- so I wanted to make it better -- and it took a long time !
Yet we took all our technology and combined it as we bilt the traditional from the ground up with our current team and using what the industry has shown us with pass and fail products over the many years-
We stripped down our favorites ---
and we just basically tried to make everything better any way we could -- and medical grade of course -- !

we came up with a system that gets air from below -- and enough of it ! ...
and also supports a full base ceramic base cup with the KindStone(our newest healthstone) wicking which is wrapped with titanium2 wrap -- and the cup is actually surrounded around with our special metal sponge helping with airflow and keeping the product tasty !
then instead of being part of a cartridge - this is the ful 510 cartridge and it includes a black mouth tip -- perfect for on the go -- !
kind_traditional.jpg
this is photo of the new traditional - you can see deep inside in this photo ----
http://kindmdvapes.com/shop/kindmd-traditional-hash-oil-shatter-attack/


thank you all and the best of luck to finding your perfect cartridge --- I agree everyone has thur own style n feel -- then of course there is the many types and consistencies and preferences ---
we try and keep this into consideration ---
and welcome any ideas -- or requests ..

peace and so much luv 2 the community !

respect to all --- hope u all smiling n enjoin the day !
 

invisiblefriend

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Manufacturer
@zor of course respect your feelings about the website --- and I thank you for your opinions and help !

unfortunately the website is brand new -- i will be honest -- the website is a work in progress (and i see how my spellcheck has created a nightmare in posts and on the site ! ) --

MOST IMPORTANT --- we will be updating the site and bringing in a professional web designer to assist in finalizing the site ! (of course I started this way -- but we had some changes through the development )


yet the products we manufacture -- ( WE never re-sell or re-package ) --Our products are released after months and months of in house and external public tests --
and I was pretty much put in a position where I just had to put the site up so we could make available to some of our west coast customers who have been requesting our products for months -- we went from development .. then to wholesale to only medical collectives -- and now we are available to the amazing and beautiful community and the public ! ....

we started as a research and development company --- after being involved in essential oils and aromatherapy for 20 plus years ---
I then developed a rare condition called "pvns" -- so I started developing products to help myself and my in-take of medicine ! Things have just grown and grown from that point years ago --
-- First trying things out of my home -- then developing a full team of engineers and developers who has helped us get to this level !

we are a grass roots face to face company and always have been -- and always will be -- We respect our customers first and foremost --- -- we are just starting our Online - internet division (and hope we didn't offend anyone with website in progress ) it is almost there !

I am just learning how important things like spelling and other errors can effect online opinion --
we never tried to gain customers online ... but have never been behind in technology ! That is where we focus -- technology and of course medical grade through and through !

(it just so happens our team has may professionals but we do not have a permanent website developer -
I am ashamed to say -- I actually made it myself .. and it was my first time ever ! **krazy me**)

thx again -- and i welcome anyones opinions and help ! we are a growing company -- and we are nobody without our customers ! Much peace and respect !
 
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zor

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Man, awesome post @invisiblefriend, I hope I didn't come across as petulant in my message above (urgh, I did, sorry! I've got a stick up my ass this morning...).

Can you tell me more about the Glass AIR cart? Am I understanding correctly that one can load in some (how many mL?) ejuice and use that? What about replacing the coils? I'm still fairly novice to these kinds of tanks/carts but coils burning out is a concern for me. The price point is incredibly attractive and, like I wrote above, I am intrigued with the design.
 

VEGASMMJ

Member
Looks like a non-replaceable coil to me. Kinda like a fancy disposable, but I could be wrong. It certainly looks sexy from the pictures though.
 
VEGASMMJ,

AnthoFranco

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but once u start breaking it down -- thinning out / using cbd additives / using PG / and
even using extra terpenes and extra essential oils in the mix --- these all thin down the medicine !
but it can still stay between thin thin ..... and a creamy thick consistency ---
man, @invisiblefriend, this sounds delish! i hope you share some recipies.

re-fill from above by removing the stainless steel tip
how many tanks before the coils needs to be replaced? i kind of figure that w/o cotton wick, there would be NO burnt taste? maybe no coil change? seem too perfect.....

we came up with a system that gets air from below -- and enough of it ! ...
and also supports a full base ceramic base cup with the KindStone(our newest healthstone) wicking which is wrapped with titanium2 wrap -- and the cup is actually surrounded around with our special metal sponge helping with airflow and keeping the product tasty !
then instead of being part of a cartridge - this is the ful 510 cartridge and it includes a black mouth tip -- perfect for on the go -- !
kind_traditional.jpg
this is photo of the new traditional - you can see deep inside in this photo ----
http://kindmdvapes.com/shop/kindmd-traditional-hash-oil-shatter-attack/
this metal sponge sounds neat. how much material will the shatter attack hold?

we are a grass roots face to face company and always have been -- and always will be -- We respect our customers first and foremost
this is so true, thanks for your contribution to our forum! i am glad that you are not resting on your products laurels to sell atomizers.

@AnthoFranco you found it to be a good cart?

no zor, i have a slim cartridge(i ended up rebuilding w/ DT's ceramic donut).i do not have the GLASS-AIR, yet. i would order two, the Kanthal & the TiGr2 version. @invisiblefriend, has GLASS-AIR TiGr2 been used under TC regs?
 
AnthoFranco,
I picked up some ejmix off amazon before finding this thread. Read through the whole thing waiting for it to arrive. Ejmix is glorious, and i have experienced no separation nor any off flavors when vaping. I'm running an Aspire Triton on an IPV3 Li. .3 ohm coils at 75watts. I can turn it down to 50 for friends who can't handle this monster.

At 1:1 I could produce heavy clouds, recognized the smell that dissipated fast, and turn into a couch cushion after 1 hit. That's not what I was aiming for, so I added another 1ml of ejmix to dilute it a bit bringing my ratio to ~2:1 (ejmix:shatter). This is still quite strong and I will be diluting it some more, ymmv.

I was hoping someone could contribute their experience with adding flavored pg/vg, up to 30/70. I do not want to cause separation, though I have read of some having success. Ideally, I would like to dilute it with flavors so I can mask the smell and vape in public without drawing attention to what I am up to.
 
jupapabear,

VEGASMMJ

Member
I now have a line of friends waiting for me to make more 1:5 CO2 oil:puffmajic mixes :)

This is by far the best way to stealth vape THC that I have come across.

Holy shit 1:5?? You're just vaping pure Puff Majic at that point.
 
VEGASMMJ,

Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
I now have a line of friends waiting for me to make more 1:5 CO2 oil:puffmajic mixes

It sounds great to me!
A person could spend an entire evening puffing away on their vape whilst getting slowly medicated.
As opposed to flatlining on a single hit.
I gave up smoking 20 years ago, but blowing clouds still holds great appeal to me :-)

Edit:
As long as it tastes good!
 

zor

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It sounds great to me!
A person could spend an entire evening puffing away on their vape whilst getting slowly medicated.
As opposed to flatlining on a single hit.
I gave up smoking 20 years ago, but blowing clouds still holds great appeal to me :-)

Edit:
As long as it tastes good!

Yeah, it tastes great, gives much better capabilities to a user to titrate to their desired level, and I've found it conserves material quite efficiently!
 

randomtoker

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^^^ I agree completely. I understand the people who want to make the most concentrated liquid, and I see the use in that, but it's also wonderful to be able to adjust the concentration to create a casual puff liquid as well.

I've settled at about 1:3 ratio of concentrate to liquid (I'm trying flavorless Vapeur Extract brand for my liquid, and I flavor it myself with my own lemon, almond, and vanilla flavorings). My concentrate is lab tested 70% THC. It tastes great, hits great, and the vapor barely smells of anything really. I'm using a simple, single coil, ~2 ml Kanger style Pyrex tank (Gentleman's Saboteur Tank). My power unit is just the simple, 3 temp power unit from my Puffco Pro wax pen.

This thread, and this youtube video, were exactly what I've been looking for! Thanks so much to the OP and everyone who's been sharing information. I'm impressed with the commercial products that are showing up in med and rec shops, and all the DIY progress going on in this area. I love my flowers, and for over 3 years I've only vaped my buds, but liquefying concentrate and using it in these pens is nothing short of revolutionary. It's been exciting to see it evolve.
 

zor

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Ugh, once again I am experiencing gurgling with my tank, this time it's the aspire nautilus mini. Little droplets sputter into my mouth and give a horribly bitter taste, and it's very wasteful too!

I'm getting close to giving up on this kind of consumption, despite how much I've enjoyed it when it works!

:mad::cuss::bang:
 
zor,

VEGASMMJ

Member
I'm telling y'all, its these little fuckers for the win: http://m.dhgate.com/product/510-bud-touch-atomizer-o-pen-vape-cartridge/247357410.html#s1-4-1 I've been having really good success with them at around 1:1. They work consistently and at $1.25 I don't feel bad about tossing them after a single use. I've got my price down to $16 per cartridge for really strong stuff and consider that to be a bargain. Just saying, we get so caught up in the newest and best tank/mod/whatever, but it's been serving me well to just keep it simple.
 

Mr Rooibos

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Ugh, once again I am experiencing gurgling with my tank, this time it's the aspire nautilus mini. Little droplets sputter into my mouth and give a horribly bitter taste, and it's very wasteful too!

I'm getting close to giving up on this kind of consumption, despite how much I've enjoyed it when it works!

:mad::cuss::bang:
I would personally recommend using an RDA instead of a tank. I'm using the velocity mini RDA with spaced titanium coils to great effect. Zero gurgling effect, zero leaking.
 
Mr Rooibos,
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zor

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Thanks guys!

@Mr Rooibos I'm trying to educate myself on that RDA (and RDAs in general), what is the capacity you can load in yours?

@VEGASMMJ yeah, I'm considering those...I don't want to invest in 50 at a time though. Maybe I'll test with one and go that route, what voltage are you using, 3.2? No concerns about the coil material?
 
zor,

florduh

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@VEGASMMJ How is the taste with those little guys?

@zor Have you tried the Aspire K1? I've never had a leak and rarely a gurgle. Most importantly they've never caused me to lose a drop of my juice. The taste is good as long as you don't push the voltage too high.


I'm telling y'all, its these little fuckers for the win: http://m.dhgate.com/product/510-bud-touch-atomizer-o-pen-vape-cartridge/247357410.html#s1-4-1 I've been having really good success with them at around 1:1. They work consistently and at $1.25 I don't feel bad about tossing them after a single use. I've got my price down to $16 per cartridge for really strong stuff and consider that to be a bargain. Just saying, we get so caught up in the newest and best tank/mod/whatever, but it's been serving me well to just keep it simple.
 
florduh,

zor

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@florduh it's on my list! I'm holding off for now as I just ordered a vstick pen and will see how the carts for it treat me. If it's good then I'll happily get 50 or so of the carts @VEGASMMJ linked, I'm tired of spending on accessories that disappoint in the short run.
 
zor,

Flight of Fists

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Ive tried the new disposable glass carts from dhgate, they don't seem to work well with thick oil but Im going to keep experimenting.

As far as mixing, Ive been using Puff Majic with great results.

Nonetheless I just got this (after hearing it recommended by grey wolf) https://extractconsultants.com/product/terpene-sample-kit-consumer/ def expensive but Im hopeful.

And now I notice they added "Vape Ready Flavoring & Terpene Blends" section

https://extractconsultants.com/prod...-ready-flavoring-terpene-blends-for-cannabis/

interesting
 
Flight of Fists,

Mr Rooibos

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@Mr Rooibos I'm trying to educate myself on that RDA (and RDAs in general), what is the capacity you can load in yours?
Its well worth looking into wrapping your own coils and using RDAs. Once you're over the initial phase of freshening up on your knowledge of ohms law, the rest is is fairly straightforward.

I have a few RDAs but the Velocity mini is about as easy as you can get to build on. The well in it is 3mm deep. I just carry a small 10ml UV resistant dripper with my Puff Majic/BHO (3:1) liquid around with me. I drip about 8-10 drops for a good 20 puff session.

I use the Koopor Mini Box Mod with Temperature Control (TC), Organic Japanese cotton wick, 26 gauge Titanium wire (10 wraps around a 2.5mm screwdriver measuring anywhere between .2 and .3 ohms)

It really is worth investigating this path if you wish to carry on with the whole e-liquid vibe. Its my go-to method for consuming concentrates these days. Quick, clean, effective.
 

zor

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Ah I see, it might be worth a shot but I'm looking for stealth use and so a larger capacity is almost a must-have.
 

VEGASMMJ

Member
@zor I've been buying 5 at a time off eBay and have been happy enough with the product that I'm gonna spring for the 50 pack. I have 2 roommates and we all use these so we'll burn through the 50 pretty quick. Just using a regular old push button ecig battery. Not sure of the voltage, not adjustable.

@florduh the taste is pretty good. I would say the only negative being the taste of the Puff Majic which I don't really care for. You're not gonna blow giant clouds like an Aspire tank but then again that seems kinda wasteful to me.

@Flight of Fists have you seen this Connoisseur Concentrates "The Solution"? I linked to it on the last page. Its an organic terpene based dilutant that apparantly tastes amazing. Ordering some is on my to-do list. Just trying to get through the last of this Puff Majic.
 

florduh

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@VEGASMMJ Thanks. I agree about clouds. But taste is everything (ok effect is everything but taste is a close second). I just wanted to ensure there wasn't a burnt taste.

You don't happen to still have a link to the ebay 5 pack do you? I couldn't find anything but searching for an off-brand product can be wonky.

If not I may take the plunge with DHGate and offload some on ebay myself if they don't work out.



@zor I've been buying 5 at a time off eBay and have been happy enough with the product that I'm gonna spring for the 50 pack. I have 2 roommates and we all use these so we'll burn through the 50 pretty quick. Just using a regular old push button ecig battery. Not sure of the voltage, not adjustable.

@florduh the taste is pretty good. I would say the only negative being the taste of the Puff Majic which I don't really care for. You're not gonna blow giant clouds like an Aspire tank but then again that seems kinda wasteful to me.

@Flight of Fists have you seen this Connoisseur Concentrates "The Solution"? I linked to it on the last page. Its an organic terpene based dilutant that apparantly tastes amazing. Ordering some is on my to-do list. Just trying to get through the last of this Puff Majic.
 
florduh,

VEGASMMJ

Member
@VEGASMMJ Thanks. I agree about clouds. But taste is everything (ok effect is everything but taste is a close second). I just wanted to ensure there wasn't a burnt taste.

You don't happen to still have a link to the ebay 5 pack do you? I couldn't find anything but searching for an off-brand product can be wonky.

If not I may take the plunge with DHGate and offload some on ebay myself if they don't work out.

All i could find was this single one with a battery for $15. http://m.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Vaporize...artridge-Starter-kit-/262053922477?nav=SEARCH

I bought a 5 pack for $17 last week but Ebay no longer allows the sale of Ecig products so they pull the ads down as soon as they are put up. People still list stuff it just doesn't usually stay up more than a few days.
 
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