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GuyLeDuche said:

Thank you, as I mentioned I've now had several people try it on several different batteries, in every possible configuration.

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How exactly does that preclude it from simply being a center post issue? These atomizers are extremely simple in their design. There's not a lot of things that it could be.

Also, you said in your initial post that you don't know how to take a video. I find that unlikely. Also you don't need to waste oil to show them in a video that it doesn't work. Offering to send you a new one if you send them a video of it not working sounds pretty reasonable to me. And I'm not a fan of the $10 shipping either. Just calling it like I see it.

Oh and your example of returning something to Walmart doesn't even make sense on so many levels. If you buy something from Walmart and it doesn't work you DO have to return it. Right? Do they just send you a new one? Can you send them a video?? And even if they do offer free shipping on returns you're talking about maybe the largest retail company in the world. Not exactly comparable.

Not trying to be rude but this is a forum and I'm commenting

I would like to report that I have been responded to kindly, and with a more than acceptable resolution. I even offered to send back the incorrect part and I was told I could keep it. I don't have a battery that can run it, but that could always change in the future

I understand how tricky things can be with startups. And mix ups do happen (my package did say it was a 510M thread, which I passed on to the support ticket just in case I truly appreciate the support. my intention is to order a lot of these for resale, so a good test is crucial.

I will post a detailed review of both the unimizer and prime once broken in. So far the unimizer has been very interesting.. in a good way.

Jerrymech said:

How exactly does that preclude it from simply being a center post issue? These atomizers are extremely simple in their design. There's not a lot of things that it could be.

Also, you said in your initial post that you don't know how to take a video. I find that unlikely. Also you don't need to waste oil to show them in a video that it doesn't work. Offering to send you a new one if you send them a video of it not working sounds pretty reasonable to me. And I'm not a fan of the $10 shipping either. Just calling it like I see it.

Oh and your example of returning something to Walmart doesn't even make sense on so many levels. If you buy something from Walmart and it doesn't work you DO have to return it. Right? Do they just send you a new one? Can you send them a video?? And even if they do offer free shipping on returns you're talking about maybe the largest retail company in the world. Not exactly comparable.

Not trying to be rude but this is a forum and I'm commenting

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I'd really like to be done with this whole issue, please don't quote me just for some useless callout. Not sure why you feel a need to get involved, but I have no interest in defending myself point by point to some interloper. I consider it closed and thank @VaporGoddess for resolving the issue.

In my experience unless it's a giant company I've had to send stuff back that was doa. Not always, but usually.

GuyLeDuche said:

I'd really like to be done with this whole issue, please don't quote me just for some useless callout. Not sure why you feel a need to get involved, but I have no interest in defending myself point by point to some interloper. I consider it closed and thank @VaporGoddess for resolving the issue.

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Um..you posted repeatedly in a public forum in a thread I frequent and had previously commented in. FYI- you weren't having a private conversation. If you didn't want everyone to be in your business you shouldn't have posted and blathered in a public forum.

Wanted to update on my unimizer experience:

First unimizer sent out to me was DOA, and wouldn't have worked on the crappy vv unit I had picked up in town anyways. I e-mailed them, and they just wanted photo proof at that time. I put a multimeter to its lowest detectable ohm setting and took a picture showing .000 readings, then sent that in. New unimizer sent out right away.

Didn't have time to get things working/reviewed until I found a $44 invader mini I couldn't pass up. So that finally came in a while ago, I confirmed that the dead unit was really faulty (it was) and have been trying the replacement for a little while. I really like it so far, much easier to keep clean than a coil. I honestly wasn't able to figure out the black wick. I let a fairly large amount of material melt into it, but I wasn't really able to get it to do much, just said... fuck it. Didn't want to waste more until I asked around here to see the best method for using it. It's honestly been fun though, I can put my nectar collector right on top or invert it onto my d020 (I like to alternate so the oil goes back and forth.) And then I just.... what am I talking about? Right.... its been fun!

So anyway... not all bad over at OV, they are trying hard to get started and I hope people give them a chance. Looking forward to @StormyPinkness impression of the dual quartz

@seaofgreens all we need is confirmation that it is not working then we can send out replacements.

As for using it with the black ceramic wick @THC SCIENTIFIC recommends placing oil below the ceramic wick and above it, this should increase its performance and get the wick primed and ready.

I feel like brand new never used black wicks absorb a little bit extra as a buffer, even on the dual coils.

Yeah I kind of wish there was some type of splash cap on the globe and AC. Using the black ceramic donut on splattery dual coils isn't my favorite fix. The glass on the AC just gets doused in oil regardless. Wish that could be avoided somehow. Like a closed system over the coils that catches the splatter. I'm sure this has been considered. Wonder why they opted against it. Plus the globe dual coils can only hold very little oil before it spills over the sides and gets very messy. The AC is better in this regard but I still use the globe so I can use my nibbler g- there's no bubbler for the AC. Water filtration really helps my throat. But the nibbler collects so much oil after only a few days of use I can recover like a full gram of oil. Still totally satisfied with the products and setup...but some type of catchment system would be really cool. I know G can come up with an ingenious solution. Does the herc solve all these problems? I just feel weird paying 100 for an atomizer.

Yeah both AC mouth pieces collect reclaim really fast, I am using the metal one currently because I broke my first globe then broke a replacement I bought so I just got some silicone on the tip of the metal piece shoved into a rig attachment and doing that is a little cleaner on my piece seeing as how the metal tube collects all the reclaim and the metal top cap has a splash cap with holes in it for the vapor to come through.

I would really like the Herc as well my reasoning about not getting it is it's only threaded for 601 devices, I know you could get the adapter to use it on 510 but then it wouldn't be flush and look good on my mods I really wish they would make a 510 version of the Herc seeing as how there are way more powerful mods out there now that COULD power it essentially and with TC devices it would work really great; even the AC has all the different thread types.

I agree. But I have to say the converter really isn't that bad. It doesn't look great but you'd probably quickly forget about it. Someone in the Persei thread posted a pic of a herc in a Tc mod and it looked okay. I had to double check to even see the converter. But overall yeah it would be cool to have a 510 herc.

I agree the dual coils splatter on the globe more than I like, but I definitely don't feel like it leaks into the cup unless the coil is dirty. I've been impressed with how much wax they can handle. Normally I put a pretty big glob on there and whatever doesn't vape get's absorbed or even collects between them kind of stretched out like a wax hammock.

Fkn0wned said:

I would really like the Herc as well my reasoning about not getting it is it's only threaded for 601 devices, I know you could get the adapter to use it on 510 but then it wouldn't be flush and look good on my mods I really wish they would make a 510 version of the Herc seeing as how there are way more powerful mods out there now that COULD power it essentially and with TC devices it would work really great; even the AC has all the different thread types.

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Saw this in the persei thread figured I share it with you.
I hope it's ok

This looks like a nice mod for the Herc but that's the problem it looks like it's just for the Herc I just purchased an IPV D2 and even more recently an eVic-VTC Mini which you can use with any 510 atomizer; I wouldn't want to have to get another mod just to use the Herc only that isn't to universal and from the looks of it that looks like a single 18650 device like the two mods I have.

They should just make a 510 thread because doing something like that just separates the market and makes it into a really niche one why make one of your best atomizers only functional with your mods/batteries if you make an adapter to use with others why not just make a 510 thread version so you could make money across all markets.

Also it looks similar to a itaste vtr; I think it would be better to just offer a 510/601 version of the Herc instead of working on a dedicated mod when the market is already flooded with them there are way to many mods and not enough GREAT atomizers like the Herc...

The only oi vaporizer I have used in my life was a Dr Dabber light and it works great, but wanted to upgrade to something better. Just found this post and as I have a eleaf sticker 30w around my house I was thinking this products really suit me.

The thing is thatI don't know the main differences between using single coil, double, donut or quartz. And also not sure if ordering the Alpha globe (it seems like you can use all the coils on it) or an Unimizer (only uses donuts, right?) what are the main differences?

Thanks for your help to this noob in oilpens!!

Edit: You send to UK?

b0 said:

The only oi vaporizer I have used in my life was a Dr Dabber light and it works great, but wanted to upgrade to something better. Just found this post and as I have a eleaf sticker 30w around my house I was thinking this products really suit me.

The thing is thatI don't know the main differences between using single coil, double, donut or quartz. And also not sure if ordering the Alpha globe (it seems like you can use all the coils on it) or an Unimizer (only uses donuts, right?) what are the main differences?

Thanks for your help to this noob in oilpens!!

Edit: You send to UK?

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I was just about to ask an almost identical question from a similar viewpoint (noob vaper)...
Basically what are the pros and cons of each (unimizer vs either globe vs prime coils).

Also, if I understand correctly, you (samuraisam,vapor goddess, thc scientific) prefer to promote VV for these coils instead of TC like Divine Tribe....so my istick 50 is better than istick40. Yes?

I'll be tailoring my order later this week depending on your answers.

XeroRespect said:

I recently picked up a 5 pack of the new Quartz dual coils from oilvaporizer.com to give them a try in the AC with Persei.

http://www.oilvaporizer.com/alpha-quartz-dual-ti-gr2-coil-5pack-p/alpha-quartz-dual-ti-2-5-pack.htm

I promptly burned one out in half a day as I first tried pulsing at 7.4v. It was instantaneous and tasty, but that poor cart didn't last long with the 7.4v/pulse method as with the standard dual carts.

I am currently using a second one at 3.7v on the Persei. Just as tasty, and now I feel a little more control at 3.7v. They do heat up quickly, on the same par as a single coil possibly slightly longer.

The carts are deeper than the standard AC dual coils, and the coils themselves are smaller (hence why the 7.4v was probably a bad idea). The deeper cart allows crumble to work exceptionally well.

All in all, I am fairly pleased. Still a little early to replace my standard AC dual coil @ 7.4v as my daily driver, but if these new Quartz dual coils prove more durable at the 3.7v, and the taste test goes well with stickier concentrates (i.e., no burnt oil as with the crumble so far), there could be a change on the horizon.

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Bit of a cross post, but the Quartz Dual Coil for the AC... 4 out of 5 stars. Longevity is my biggest concern.

Oh boy had a terrible weekend and I am finally recovering. Lets get these questions answered.
@Fkn0wned I am not sure what @THC SCIENTIFIC is doing but we will have this mod on our site to sell, looking at his work, it will be what is needed for them, the market is over crowded that's for sure, but the market does not have what W9 Tech has, and that is Customer Services, Dedication to their customers, and the ability to innovate. Although this mod is not an innovation, it is specifically designed to work with their units and further enhancing the cartridges capabilities. I suspect the reason he is doing that is because running W9 Tech gear gives them better ability to help their customers and I can agree with this philosophy.

@b0 lets try to answer your questions. It is pretty simple, Single Coil is for the average user, the dual coil is for someone who wants larger clouds, the donut is for someone who likes low temperature sessions that is looking for a different taste profile, as well as the quartz. I suggest you try them all and see which is best fit for you.

@tdog49 not sure why they recommend variable voltage or what they have said before but using any device that is variable voltage or wattage makes no difference to me.

@XeroRespect thank you for your review, we are looking into enhancing the quartz coils even further to withstand the heavy duty user. Also would like to add that later on today I would like to show off the glass bubblers for the Alpha Globe and the Unimizer.


Update: I have the prototype picture of the Unimizer bubbler. Dubbed Nibbler U that is the bubbler on the left. The right one is for the Kiss AC only.

OMG SO NICE!;
Hopefully they are priced good as well, any news on the all black Uni?

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+ I see on the AC bubbler the base has 3 O-Rings where as my default one has only 2 is that to help hold the bubbler on better I presume?

Melting Pot said:

Saw this in the persei thread figured I share it with you.
I hope it's ok

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I can't wait for this, finally a stealth herc. It's for the herc, kiss ac (alpha globe), and gen 3 kiss carts (prime coils). It's being developed specifically for their gear though so it's 601. I don't own any 510 stuff so I like that, I won't have to use an adapter.

StormyPinkness said:

I can't wait for this, finally a stealth herc. It's for the herc, kiss ac (alpha globe), and gen 3 kiss carts (prime coils). It's being developed specifically for their gear though so it's 601. I don't own any 510 stuff so I like that, I won't have to use an adapter.

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If it is at a good competitive price, and possibly sold as a kit including the Herc I might just have to purchase a 3rd mod, I mainly use my other two for concentrates anyways as I don't smoke cigs or vape nicotine.

I’ve been using the quartz coils and I remember someone asking me to post what I thought (sorry for the blurry pics, I don’t own a camera and my phone is 3 years old).




First off it’s taller and smaller. Like you can (hopefully) see in the blurry pic the outside metal wall is double thick so everything inside is smaller. Smaller cup, wick, and coil. Also in the pic you can see the coil is farther down in. This could be a plus in that it might help prevent splatter. Also even though the cup is smaller, it being taller might let you load it up a lot more vertically like a lot of people do with the prime/gen3 kiss carts. Though if after a lot of use there is some wax in the cup, it will be very hard to get out. It’s very, very tiny and crowded in there. If your stuff is sticky it also makes it a little tougher to load it and get it right where you want on the coil. Where a lot of the other coils ramp up to temp a little this seems to just hit it. I only tried 3.7v and 7.4v with it.

3.7v:
I’m impressed with it at 3.7, the taste is pretty good and it actually hits pretty hard. Especially impressive for a dual coil at 3.7. Though my usual technique didn’t seem to work as well on 2nd or 3rd hits and they could start tasting a little burnt if any was left. I wasn’t getting much if any splatter, but I never got much at 3.7 with the other ones.

7.4v:
Nope. I’m used to feathering but I felt like I had to feather my feathering (feathers?). Too hot too fast. I could sometimes get an ok taste for the first hit, but mostly it just gave me burnt vapor. Much more splatter than at 3.7. It also wouldn’t fire on the core at 7.4v, I ended up using it on my v2 persei with batteries. It fired on there at 3.7 though.

here you go gentleman and ladies not sure whos who yet or who is sitting behind the screen. Unimizer Bubbler pre orders will go on sale as soon as @THC SCIENTIFIC does his testing.

If I purchase an "Alpha Globe" could I swap out the atomizer it comes with for one of those Dual Coil Quartz before it is shipped out?

I don't really want to purchase a 5 pack and you don't have a single option for them yet; but I really need the Alpha base I need a replacement for the one that came with my AC and just getting the Alpha Globe from oilvaporizer instead of a whole AC order would be cheaper.

I noticed the Unimizer was taken off the site, any reason why