Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

MichaelCompton

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Iso soak and air dry for a few minutes. They clean up very easily. I've been throwing them (I have six) into a jar of 91% after they all get used three or four times, let them soak for a half hour or so and rinse with hot water. If you're in a hurry to dry them you could use a hairdryer or hell, just blow on 'em.
Haha blow on them ? That might take a minute. A quick method I use when I need them dry fast is to (of course after you rinse the is off) turn the vacuum on and let the suction do the rest ! Takes less then 10 seconds.
 
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oldiebutgoodie

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Can someone point me in the right direction for deep cleaning instructions on elbs. Still playing catch up on this thread and I have got to the point in all gunked up and brushing after every use is no longer cutting it. Iso soak? But the best way to dry?

The deep cleaning will be a lot easier if you use a brush (1/2" diameter test tube brush works great, @Stu has posted a pic in this thread several times). I keep a small flask of ISO and when the brush can't get one clean enough any longer, toss into the flask. After using about half my ELB's (I have a dozen) I pour out the ISO for later re-use, and just rinse the ELB's in a sink with hot water. Air dry takes maybe an hour.
 
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@Stu has posted a pic in this thread several times
Once more for posterity;)...
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IAmKrazy2

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Cleaned out all three of my remaining HT's last night and this morning, and have been Clouding all day. Anyone else enjoy using a HT for the first two hits, and then switching to a large tube with a ton of defusion on other hits as taste is deminished and vapor is then more harsh? Sometimes i even using a dry mouth piece, HT, then large tube with a ton of defusion all on one load.
 
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Cleaned out all three of my remaining HT's last night and this morning, and have been Clouding all day? Anyone else enjoy using a HT for the first two hits, and then switching to large tube with a ton of defusion on other hits as taste is deminished and vapor is then more harsh? Sometimes i even using a dry mouth piece, HT, then large tube with a ton of defusion all on one load.
This has always been my daily routine to a degree. I have one flavorful piece for the first initial hits. Another piece with good diffusion and more size out for the bigger final harsher hits. Then we have one out strictly for dabs!
 
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MichaelCompton

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Anyone have any experience with the StoneGlassWorks waffle with an EVO?
Not waffle but the ssfg hydra line oh yes !
Having a sweet session with the evo with that ht along with the mobius. This GDP oil and Larry og botanicals are blowing me away. I love this company.....where is the portable
Edit-Does anyone have a link to a 10-12ft power cord that isn't so stiff like The oem is.
 
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IAmKrazy2

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Anyone have any experience with the StoneGlassWorks waffle with an EVO?

I have one, and it is likely my favorite pair with the Evo i have that isn't a HT. The piece i have requires a elbow adaptor to use the Evo with proper clearance but besides that it is great. Tons of airflow, minimal restriction, max taste.
 
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Dr. Plutonious

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I have one, and it is likely my favorite pair with the Evo i have that isn't a HT. The piece i have requires a elbow adaptor to use the Evo with proper clearance but besides that it is great. Tons of airflow, minimal restriction, max taste.

When I moved away from Canada I had to sell all my glass. So I'm slowly acquiring some new glass. I'm thinking about the long, straight tube with a waffle perc. Just looks like it be a great pairing with the EVO.

I recently got a hydratube and that will function as my "bubbler" with the EVO. Now I need a big hitter.

Thanks for the info!
 
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oldiebutgoodie

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. . .
Edit-Does anyone have a link to a 10-12ft power cord that isn't so stiff like The oem is.

There are links earlier in this thread; just Search on "power cord" in this thread and you'll get a bunch of hits. You can use essentially any standard 120V electronics device cord (e.g., a PC or TV cable). There was one cord reported that is flat so it doesn't tend to coil itself like some others.
 
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I recently bought a crafty and never got to try it as after numerous burn offs i cannot get the smell of burnt plastic out of it when hot. It is really noticeable and not dissipating at all. This has really put me off using plastic altogether and led me to look for alternatives. I have always been intrigued by the cloud EVO as it appears to offer a clean pathway, amazing hits and effect as well as being efficient. Please let me know if this is not the case but after a lot of research this seems to be the only product offering this.

Unfortunately I have a few concerns I am really hoping someone can placate so I can order, or failing that point me in the direction of a more suitable alternative. These concerns are what made me purchase a crafty first despite it being plastic.

The cloud EVO costs a lot of money (£349 for basic package in UK, crafty is under £200) and I will need to transport it on a weekly basis (I can carefully take in original packaging in car and it is a small journey). Is this fairly safe to do so with the internal glass if I am careful and leave a spare mouthpiece / bowl at each address? Due to costing £50 to fix and having to send the unit away this concerns me.

Secondly, I am really keen on temperature read outs. I realise they are not exact, however they are a good gauge in reducing the amount of carcinogens you inhale, especially for novices trying to exercise harm reduction. Has anyone hooked a thermometer up to this thing to get some rough gauges?

Lastly, I cannot really warrant spending extra on hydratubes for my first purchase, although I may be tempted to buy them later, even though I hear water reduces the potency. Will using the basic tube with flowers be OK for my needs and not too harsh? I have a fairly low tolerance of late so big hits are not too important.

Sorry for the long post, I just want to make sure I am purchasing the right product. I have smoked for over 15 years and although I own an arizer EQ I feel it just does not adequately replace smoking well enough. I am against combusting having giving up cigarettes a few months ago and planned to give up inhaling anything until I could find a unit that fit my needs at a more affordable price. I found the arizer to be inefficient, the ceramic mica element in the air path put me off and I have hurt my chest trying to inhale too hard off it.

Unfortunately I now require pain relief and so am willing to spend extra for the medical benefits I now urgently require.

Thank you for any advice you can offer.
 
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Lastly, I cannot really warrant spending extra on hydratubes for my first purchase, although I may be tempted to buy them later, even though I hear water reduces the potency. Will using the basic tube with flowers be OK for my needs and not too harsh? I have a fairly low tolerance of late so big hits are not too important.

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I have two hydratubes and a bong that I use with my EVO, and while I really like them a lot, I find myself coming back to the dry tube more often than I would. I really enjoy using it. If you have a bong with an 18mm joint, it works great. If not, I think you'll be happy with the dry tube until you can get a hydratube, and then maybe even after. After using the bong, I've realized that the hydratubes don't make the experience that much better. You could probably get a bong cheaper than a hydratube if you wanted, but I admit the hydratubes look the coolest.

Also, I have always found any kind of smoking extremely harsh and basically not tolerable. I don't find that with the dry tube for the EVO.
 

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Does anyone torch their ELBs or at least know if there's anything wrong with doing that?
I have 10 left but if I use the Evo a lot I can clog them all in a couple of days brush or no brush.
For convenience I torch, rinse then torch dry & brush. Is this unhealthy or going to cause any issues other than turning them black & wearing them out a little faster because I'm ok with that.
 
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Does anyone torch their ELBs or at least know if there's anything wrong with doing that?
I have 10 left but if I use the Evo a lot I can clog them all in a couple of days brush or no brush.
For convenience I torch, rinse then torch dry & brush. Is this unhealthy or going to cause any issues other than turning them black & wearing them out a little faster because I'm ok with that.
Torching them will degrade the metal and eventually they'll probably start falling apart. I used to torch my LSV screens before pretty much every bowl and eventually they'd start falling apart every time. Definitely wouldn't do it with screens as expensive as these.
 
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Seek

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I recently bought a crafty and never got to try it as after numerous burn offs i cannot get the smell of burnt plastic out of it when hot. It is really noticeable and not dissipating at all. This has really put me off using plastic altogether and led me to look for alternatives. I have always been intrigued by the cloud EVO as it appears to offer a clean pathway, amazing hits and effect as well as being efficient. Please let me know if this is not the case but after a lot of research this seems to be the only product offering this.
When the whole glass airpath and ELBs are clean, the EVO produces ultimately smooth and tasty hits.
The whole airpath except the ELB is glass so there is literally NOTHING that could offgas anything into your hit.
And the only nonglass part - the ELB - is not even getting heated that much, only when you hit it and then it can't get any hotter than your herbs.
If the heat exchanger itself was metal (which it isn't) then the metal would get much much hotter.

To be completely honest, the EVO can offgas a plastic smell from its bottom part whre the electronics are, but that is isolated from the airpath so it shouldn't be a serious problem. Stonemonkey once adressed this issue and recommended drilling few small holes in the bottom so it get ventilated, but imo advicing such a thing to a product under warranty is not ideal. It would be better if they included these holes by factory.

The cloud EVO costs a lot of money (£349 for basic package in UK, crafty is under £200) and I will need to transport it on a weekly basis (I can carefully take in original packaging in car and it is a small journey). Is this fairly safe to do so with the internal glass if I am careful and leave a spare mouthpiece / bowl at each address? Due to costing £50 to fix and having to send the unit away this concerns me.
If you keep the original packaging then transporting the EVO should be easy and safe. The original box keeps it in place and has two rubber protective caps for the internal glass bamboo. Unless that box get hulk smashed it will protect the EVO at transport. A dry mouthpiece can also fit in that box, but not a hydratube. You woul need to transport the glass separately, in another box or something.

Secondly, I am really keen on temperature read outs. I realise they are not exact, however they are a good gauge in reducing the amount of carcinogens you inhale, especially for novices trying to exercise harm reduction. Has anyone hooked a thermometer up to this thing to get some rough gauges?
I'm not sure if a thermometer would work right on glass (it could possibly read the temperature of the heater wrappend around the glass which is much hotter that anything the passing air comes in contact with).
What I'm sure about is that the temperature of the air output is very reliable and consistent.
You don't get any numbers because it's not digital, but imo the number is not that important, just tune is as you like.
The temperature on every setting will be consistent. Only raising a little bit after being on for 15 minutes as the glass gets heat soaked into temperature equlibrium. The EVO is very good at keeping up the temp ever when you hit it hard long and repeatedly.
You never wait for EVO to heat back up again after a huge hit.

Lastly, I cannot really warrant spending extra on hydratubes for my first purchase, although I may be tempted to buy them later, even though I hear water reduces the potency. Will using the basic tube with flowers be OK for my needs and not too harsh? I have a fairly low tolerance of late so big hits are not too important.
I've got an EVO with a hydratube and then bought a classic dry tube to try it.
And from the experience I say don't get an EVO without a hydratube unless you already have some compatible glass bong.
The EVO is just too powerful for dry hitting imo. It is possible, you can get a lot of small hits when you cut off the hit when it start getting hot on your lips. But's not that comfortable and it's completely against the nature of the EVO. It's meant to hit hard. Being able to start milking up any piece and keep going at that pace until the last bit of thc is extracted is one of EVOs greatest powers. You can't do that with a dry mouthpiece as it just can't cool down that much vapor. If you are not for big hits, then maybe the EVO could be an overkill for you.
They also sell an EVO with silicone hose attachment, I think that would be a better low-budget option than a dry glass tube. The silicone hose is much better at cooling down the vapor.
 
Thanks for the info, especially to Seek for the very detailed reply.

I was very pleased to read someone on this thread mention the EVO helped them quit combustion completely with no remorse, this is exactly what I need.

I am against using the silicone hose with an all glass / steel pathway. Can people recommend what mouthpiece they prefer using the most? Is it fairly safe having water above the EVO? I already own an EQ and have seen the glass bowl from that used to mount the EVO on bongs so that may be a cheaper possibility. However is turning it upside safe? Anyone managed to crack the internal glass doing this?

UK buyers: any advice on purchasing? I am looking at vapefiend as they seem good and I have heard on this thread they offer to repair the glass for £50.

Thanks again, really appreciated.
 
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Seek

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Can people recommend what mouthpiece they prefer using the most?
I've got 2 hydratubes and a hydrabase. I love using the EVO with any combination of them. The EVO is great with any watertool that it can fit.
I mostly run it through all 3 of them combined: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-evo.11357/page-296#post-778942

Is it fairly safe having water above the EVO?
It depends. All the recent official hydratubes have a very good overflow guard at the bottom that catches any water that goes down before it would go into the vape. Some very old ones or custom ones don't have such protection and blowing into them while on the vape can destroy the internal glass bamboo. I have one such hydratube and I don't let frineds use that one. But I use it quite often and never had any accident.

I already own an EQ and have seen the glass bowl from that used to mount the EVO on bongs so that may be a cheaper possibility.
If you have a bong with 18mm male joint then yes, the EQ bowl can work as adapter for EVO to attach. But I would be careful as these are made of very thin glass and could be easily broken (I've already broken 3 of them when I had my EQ).
If you have a female joint and its not too close to the body of the bong you can attach the EVO directly.
If it's something else like different size then you would need a different adapter.

However is turning it upside safe? Anyone managed to crack the internal glass doing this?
If it's not at diagonal angle it shouldn't put any stress on the glass. Just be careful and don't tip it over when attached or pull the cord.
If it's angled you can still use it and the glass probably wouldn't crack but there would be stress and it would probably tip over without holding it. So if it angled you just hold the EVO in place while hitting it and pull it out when you finish the hit. If it's not angled and you are not going to hit it again immediately you also shouldn't leave it there so it can't fall. Also when it's inverted for a long time, the bottom could heat up and give off more of that plastic smell.

UK buyers: any advice on purchasing? I am looking at vapefiend as they seem good...
I got mine there and I'm happy. Vapefiend has good prices and good recent accessories for it. I don't even know if there are any other vendors having the current models or even any EVOs at all.
 
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harmless healing

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Thanks for the info, especially to Seek for the very detailed reply.

I was very pleased to read someone on this thread mention the EVO helped them quit combustion completely with no remorse, this is exactly what I need.

I am against using the silicone hose with an all glass / steel pathway. Can people recommend what mouthpiece they prefer using the most? Is it fairly safe having water above the EVO? I already own an EQ and have seen the glass bowl from that used to mount the EVO on bongs so that may be a cheaper possibility. However is turning it upside safe? Anyone managed to crack the internal glass doing this?

UK buyers: any advice on purchasing? I am looking at vapefiend as they seem good and I have heard on this thread they offer to repair the glass for £50.

Thanks again, really appreciated.

Hi there, also a UK user and can safely say vapefiend are my go to for all my Vapor needs. There level of service is second to none and have genuinely surpassed expectation in some cases. As for fixing of the bamboo, I have also heard the same here but cannot officially confirm (and intend on never being able to officially confirm) however, if this information is of great importance to you before purchasing I'd suggest emailing them by filling in a contact form on their website (Adam has been known to get back to me at the small hours of the morning:rockon:)

As for inverted use; the EVO is designed to be used inverted but not stored for extended periods of time while hot in this way. Basically don't leave it upside down. Heat rises n all that :tup:

I went for the bomb HT as my initial mouthpiece and was not disappointed. All HTs are designed with a "splash guard" so don't worry about having water over your unit.

I wouldn't worry too much about mouthpiece or HT choice though. As someone who has never suffered from GAS before, I can tell you the EVO will sure as hell do it. Just ordered a hydrabase bomb edition, and a dry mouth piece (extending my options to; HT only for ease, dry mouthpiece only low temp flavour, HT and bomb base for massive high temp hits, and bomb base with dry mouthpiece just cause I will be able to) this should keep me happy till at least after Christmas :science:

Hope this helps

Also seek, are we the same person? I have yet to catch up fully on this thread and just saw your setup for the first time...great minds and all that jazz.

Good vibes to all

Namaste
 
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oldiebutgoodie

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I recently bought a crafty and never got to try it as after numerous burn offs i cannot get the smell of burnt plastic out of it when hot. It is really noticeable and not dissipating at all. This has really put me off using plastic altogether and led me to look for alternatives. I have always been intrigued by the cloud EVO as it appears to offer a clean pathway, amazing hits and effect as well as being efficient. Please let me know if this is not the case but after a lot of research this seems to be the only product offering this.

Unfortunately I have a few concerns I am really hoping someone can placate so I can order, or failing that point me in the direction of a more suitable alternative. These concerns are what made me purchase a crafty first despite it being plastic.

The cloud EVO costs a lot of money (£349 for basic package in UK, crafty is under £200) and I will need to transport it on a weekly basis (I can carefully take in original packaging in car and it is a small journey). Is this fairly safe to do so with the internal glass if I am careful and leave a spare mouthpiece / bowl at each address? Due to costing £50 to fix and having to send the unit away this concerns me.

Secondly, I am really keen on temperature read outs. I realise they are not exact, however they are a good gauge in reducing the amount of carcinogens you inhale, especially for novices trying to exercise harm reduction. Has anyone hooked a thermometer up to this thing to get some rough gauges?

Lastly, I cannot really warrant spending extra on hydratubes for my first purchase, although I may be tempted to buy them later, even though I hear water reduces the potency. Will using the basic tube with flowers be OK for my needs and not too harsh? I have a fairly low tolerance of late so big hits are not too important.

Sorry for the long post, I just want to make sure I am purchasing the right product. I have smoked for over 15 years and although I own an arizer EQ I feel it just does not adequately replace smoking well enough. I am against combusting having giving up cigarettes a few months ago and planned to give up inhaling anything until I could find a unit that fit my needs at a more affordable price. I found the arizer to be inefficient, the ceramic mica element in the air path put me off and I have hurt my chest trying to inhale too hard off it.

Unfortunately I now require pain relief and so am willing to spend extra for the medical benefits I now urgently require.

Thank you for any advice you can offer.

Some good advice above, a few additional thoughts . . .

You should not have a problem transporting your EVO, the shipping box or similar works fine. As an aside, quite a few folks have purchased a cheap gun case, the type with the small removable foam sections that allow you to shape the foam to whatever you're carrying. My case fit the EVO, HT, and accessories nicely, and again, it was quite inexpensive.

Re temperature display, the EVO is an analog device; it does not have a digital temperature display. One quickly learns where on the dial fits your particular style and/or preference for a given session. IMO, while the EVO is designed so it can be hit hard repeatedly (e.g., you can't get ahead of the heater), that isn't necessary and a steady comfortable draw works superbly. I can easily whitewall my glass pieces without effort. On the other hand, some users prefer a lower temp and just sipping to enjoy the flavor more and have a sustained lift. There are no health issues. Assuming there is nothing harmful in your herb itself, all the EVO will do is vaporize (i.e., evaporate) the active cannabinoids in the inert (i.e., glass) air path. Carcinogens are created when the herb's chemical composition is changed by pyrolysis (essentially, combustion); you will not combust with the EVO.

The glass accessory is a bit more tricky to judge, since everyone's preference is different. I'm an oldie with a sensitive throat and bronchial passages, so I don't do well with hot or harsh vapor. Like you, I have a Q which is a good little machine but I find it's vapor harsh by comparison to the EVO, even using a water piece. That was a primary reason I switched. But even though the EVO is gentler (as long as you don't hit it hard at a higher temp), the sherlock mouthpiece would be somewhat uncomfortable for me. Since the Hydratubes are rather expensive, I would recommend (as just an example) a piece like the D020-D bubbler (the 9" with dewar joint and matrix perc is best IMO) with the EVO used inverted (a substantial number here use the EVO inverted with larger water pieces). This piece is only 20-30 Euro at dhgate.com. IME connecting the EVO via a GonG joint is definitely better than a whip setup.

Hope some of that is useful.

Good luck! :myday: :) :2c:
 
Thanks for the great advice and info. Really helping to alleviate my concerns about paying so much money.

I may have to get a gun case, thanks - do you have a link?

There are no health issues. Assuming there is nothing harmful in your herb itself, all the EVO will do is vaporize (i.e., evaporate) the active cannabinoids in the inert (i.e., glass) air path. Carcinogens are created when the herb's chemical composition is changed by pyrolysis (essentially, combustion); you will not combust with the EVO.

I have read evidence that suggests vaporizing reduces carcinogens but doesn't eliminate them. Benzene and other carcinogenic vapors significantly increase at 200C (392F) and higher. Also there is the added concern of pesticides and fertilisers.

Like you, I have a Q which is a good little machine but I find it's vapor harsh by comparison to the EVO, even using a water piece. That was a primary reason I switched.

Can't say I ever found the Extreme Q too harsh, just disappointing and I think the chest pains I suffered from using it were due to trying to hit too hard with it's restrictive draw. I may have been conditioned from smoking all these years.

Hope some of that is useful.

Very helpful - thanks :)
 
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The dry stem cools things wonderfully for me. i end up using it on a lot of other vapes.

I would recommend vapefiend for UK purchasers. the units are already there, so no customs surprises, plus they have a good connection with vxl.

this is easily the first vape I'd recommend for a heavy smoker trying to convert to vaping. I have a few heavy hitters that fit that bill, but the water pipe feel of it makes it a familiar ritual to so many that it helps the crossover.
 

KimDracula

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Budley, the EQ doesn't have much draw resistance, imo. You'll get a much better hit from the EVO in short order, but there is some restriction there. It wouldn't usually be an issue, but I'm wondering about your thoughts on your chest pain.
 
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