Vaporbrothers VB2

Cephalotus · Aug 1, 2015

t-dub said:
That was a sneak peek at the VB2.5 . . .

Very nice!

stickstones said:
You're probably right. I'm using that one with an adapter for my ht.

I'll have to do that as well. I'm just concerned my Nectar Collector Opal Turtle's weight may force the dome off from the non-anchored side. Then again, I've yet to see how the 14mm female dome pieces work in person, so the additional adapter may not prove to be an issue.

I'll definitely be picking up both and reporting back.

On a side note, after learning what the amber light implied, I tried Level H was some rather righteous BHO.

To make a long story short, it has easily become my favorite setting on the VB2. That being said, I'm going to be doing some research on these "carb caps" spoken of earlier in this thread. The concept sounds great.

I cannot stress how happy I am to join the VB2 club. My pendant has never been put to better use...ever.

KimDracula · Aug 3, 2015

Just had my best dab ever! Twice.

I splurged on some expensive concentrates today: three half grams of escalating price (and hopefully quality). I figure that since I've got such a great way to vape the stuff I should see how much the good stuff is really worth to me.

I'm started at the bottom price-wise with some West Coast Cure King Louis OG ($25/.5g. Yeah, that's the bottom, sigh.) At first I was rather disappointed and worried because there had obviously been some extensive melting going on with this stuff. I've had to freeze shatter, etc. before to reclaim it from it's paper before (it is CA after all and gets hot) but this is the first time I noticed what looked like oil stains on the paper. These had either soaked in or spread so thin as to be irretrievable. I don't know if this stuff was under pressure as well as hot, or both of those as well as a little old as well, but it was concerning. I was going to call back and return the stuff, but reconsidered after comparing it to some other stuff I got and deciding the loss was pretty negligible even at the price.

I harvested it from the paper after freezing for a bit (leaving behind the paper that looked grease-stained) and transplanted the sugar-wax textured goo into non-stick silicone containers and took two tiny dabs in the VB2. Since the stuff smelled so terpy I decided to try a direct draw rather than through water as is usual for me. I don't have the glass straw yet so I used a short length of tube. Incredible flavorful vapor that is perfect and smooth. Wow. Huge, thick OG taste comes through and I got a much more complete high than I did with the marginally cheaper Wax Man product I had last time.

Damn I ramble when I'm high. Well, I can't delete it now and waste the time. Happy dabbing and good night, all.

pangeamus1c · Aug 23, 2015

Watup Guys, New user at Fc but read a few of these posts. Had a VB2 for about 10 months now. Had to send it in a few times for new heater. I'm really trying to figure out if I like this or not... what temperature do you guys dab shatters/waxes on your vb2 med or high? and if on medium have you ever noticed that it seems a ton of your dab sinks into the ceramic disc and doesn't get dabbed but instead slowly burned off later? Last Question - When you guys dab it on highest temperature do you ever notice that it seems you only get around 60-70% feeling/size of dab cloud compared to hitting off a nail? Been doing a lot of testing and these are all the things I have found - I mean I literally have had my vb2 just returned from the factory last week but sitting in my closet and using my cheap $200 rig and TI nail instead because of the questions I stated before....Literally feel like I am only getting about 60-70% of the dab I should on high temp and 50% max on medium temperature due to dab heat. Im so lost on how I feel about it - can a vb2 lord please set me straight and make me love this thing?

KimDracula · Aug 23, 2015

I feel it performs best on high and I feel like it's efficient although I can't compare to a nail. I'm sure others will, though.

Do you recall the longest period of time between repairs?

Is anyone not having problems with the heater?

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

When I spoke on the phone with them about the heater issue they said there was one person who has had the vb2 for a while without having to swap the heaters out and when I asked how they said they were unsure but im assuming he just keeps it in his closet and doesn't use it much? In my experiences once it takes about 9-12 minutes to heat up to full heat (turn on full heat for 3 mins, flick off then back on full heat- repeat till hot enough to dab) thats when I have sent it in for returns, tried to pay the difference and upgrade to vb 2.5 but vapor brothers said that was a no go - but one thing I've noticed between those sessions is that when using the vb2 I feel like I am blowing through my concentrates due to such lack luster big dabs (again when I sit and take same size dabs from vb2 then nail - the smoke cloud when im exhaling after hitting a nail is always around 30-40% bigger as well as feeling in lounges like i just took a 30-40% bigger hit - so medically speaking i'm literally not sure if full quantity of meds are reaching my body on both medium and high (medium is too low and too much dab sinks into ceramic disc, high might be too hot?) - I had my brothers friend over here last week with two motherships (google if you dont know) and we had all 4 rigs out - his 2 motherships - my vb2 - and my rig - we hit all 4 and honestly I was soo embarrassed by how the vb2 hit - I didn't even put the party dome on and attach all 3 rigs - so we just hit his motherships and I was doing my little inside comparison on everything - I have seen so much praise by people for their vb2's on this forum and I can't tell why, honestly not trying to bash at all just trying to make sense of it. I have done the same comparison with my vb2 sitting right next to a top of the line e-nail (guy claimed IT WAS THE TOP OF THE LINE) ok so anyways, same thing happened - I bust out the vb2 we hit it 1-2 times - I feel embarrassed by how it hits - and we go back to the nail. Is it that the people loving the vb2 have never tried a very good enail and or arent used to heating a nail correctly to get a good temperature dab or am I just using this beast wrong? If anyone out there has an enail or knows how to properly toch a TI nail so you get your full dab at a lower temp that has also used/hit the vb2 please lets talk - post up! -- I really wanted to get the new VB2 inline bubbler but after watching the video and such a tiny smoke cloud after she hits it on medium I just was totally turned off from it. I just cant stand the feeling of putting a huge dab on the vb2 that I know if I put on a nail the smoke cloud would nearly fill up the room and have me on the floor but with the vb2 its always just meh.

stickstones · Aug 24, 2015

first off, let's quit talking about smoke around here!

I'm no vb2 lord, but how are the effects you are getting? Is it getting you hammered? I've noticed that I don't have huge exhales that fill the room, but I am absolutely torn up. I don't have a nail to compare it to, but will do so at a meetup in September.

I think you are hung up on what you see exhaled. My guess is that the VB2 is doing a better job of vaporizing the goodies and leaving the impurities behind and you are used to seeing those impurities in your exhale. But they taste like shit and don't seem to have much effect. When I hit the VB2, I hit it until the vapor stops being produced. But if you wait longer you can hit all that stuff burning off afterwards as well and it looks impressive when exhaled. I have always found the effects from the VB2 to be stronger with less material than other methods, but without the huge exhale.

Focus on the effects and tell us about that.

KimDracula · Aug 24, 2015

I tend to agree with Stickstones, but also feel like I got a great amount of vapor from very small dabs (I always use the high setting - I think it does better on quick dabs). I get impressive clouds and just avoid the wisps that linger as they will not taste as good.

Do you feel like the VB2 NEVER provided satisfying hits to you, or could it be another heater problem (or in this case, one that wasn't truly fixed?)

When it comes to that video where Vapor Rae hits that bubbler, in many of those it seems she prefers very small dabs (even smaller than me, it appears). I have never had to toggle the switch to get it to heat properly, either. The normal three minutes plus another two just in case was my usual routine.

I'm a little worried about the frequency of heater failures, though. My first one happened with dismaying speed. I really love this thing. I'm really hoping being sent in for repair 3 times (at least) inside a year is atypical.

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

Okay cool, I'll bust it out later and do some smaller dab testing, I think since the heater has gone out a few times I'm always paranoid it's not burning correctly and in wasting expensive product but more testing later and I'll let you guys know! Thanks sticks!

KimDracula · Aug 24, 2015

I wasn't necessarily saying you need to dab very small on the VB2. I was using the size of the dab to explain the relative lack of vapor in that vid. She also seems to dab on M. I think you should be able to take some large dabs, especially on H. Then again, a small dab to you may be a large one to me.

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

So just took 4 dabs off the vb2 all different sizes - purely focusing on effect and not size of exhale - I took 2 very large dabs that your novice dabber would probably be in the bathroom coughing lounges up as well as two little dabs - also worth mentioning that it was first smoke of day after not smoking for about 12-16 hours. Had I taken them off my nail I feel as if I'd be tko, but after this post I am gonna go take another dab but off my nail instead to get on the level I already would like to be on. I really wish I could get the guys from mythbusters over to help test

-- On another note I really do wish I could take large dabs on low-medium temperature - but from my experience is not possible due to the dab soaking into the ceramic disc then slowing being burnt off - forget even trying low - can anyone comment on that? I feel like the vb 2.5 probably solves that as it doesn't use a disc and may not allow the dab to seep into heated surface area. Everyone may just be thinking well just take smaller dabs - but what I use to medicate throughout the day are cartridges of this sort ( https://order6.gomjfreeway.com/HHC/node/300497 - Link to Harborside HealthCenter Menu) so when I reach the end of the day I have always liked just taking monster hits on a medium temperature nail - which is what I was expecting the vb2 to perform like me hitting my buddies enail on a low temp with a hugge dab and just being tko game over after one hit. As far as product I am using that could effect it I have used it all the way up to $100 grams of the most fuego Moxie/Clear Concentrate to you're everday $40 gram of chronic wax but I dunno - I think I am a sad panda when It comes to not being able to take the monster dabs on medium/low - although once again I feel like the vb2.5 would solve these problems. Maybe some of the testers who have been using the 2.5 can comment? On the upswing hope you guys are all having a great day! and let the ganja be with you!!

-Tay

t-dub · Aug 24, 2015

pangeamus1c said:
forget even trying low

Low is for the aromatherapy dish only. It sounds to me like your VB2 is running cool. Do you have an accurate way of measuring the temperature of the ceramic disc? I never had concentrate soaking into the disc except when the heater was in the process of failing. I suspect something is not right with your device.

vaporbrothers · Aug 24, 2015

Appreciating your reports from the medicated side, everybody... Was cracking up over @KimDracula posts and other hard core members.

Welcome @Cephalotus , I see Kim answered it.

I've been waiting for people to need the 14mm male dome, so now that it's mentioned more than once I'll make a drawing and get samples, although it may take some months. Use an adapter for now. If it's for a Nectar Collector yes the glass is heavy. It could cause the dome to rotate off, especially when the unit goes on auto-off and cools down. A tighter dome can be made by putting a silicone ring inside the grip- I can send you one of these if you message me. Although, I could keep the ground joint very vertical, slightly less convenient vaporizing posture, but safer- sounds good?

Thank you everybody who has supported us so far!

Yes, "Level H" which is an ungodly number of degrees above what is popularly acceptable in dabbing circles. The oils don't settle into the surface and they vaporize before they know what the heck happened to them. It's my setting of choice- any less and it gets that "low temp dabbing" which to me is a hit or two of terpine wonder followed by a long road of smoky hell- even when properly capped.. I'm trying to like it though.

Today, talking to @GR we are pretty sure that the VB2.5 surface is really good for converting dabs to vapor- something about how it's not perfectly smooth, but also that it does not form a cold spot when the dab is applied. Ceramic has a much higher heat capacity than metal, which means it stores a lot more energy in the material per degree F that it gains/loses.

@KimDracula You asked what's the longest period of time between repairs- that might be @Vitolo 's unit, and some demo units here that have lasted for years. Some people have zero repairs despite constant use. But heated ceramic cracks at random so some people have multiple repairs. VB2.0's bain is one or both heaters cracking. VB2.5 is a different story- the heater is indestructible, but lately they've been cooking their electronics when left on long periods. Working on that constantly.

@pangeamus1c I've had both experiences, where I think VB2 gives more or less. With nails, the ability to carb cap tightly is definitely a thing. But with VB2, especially with my micro dabs I get a thick hit on something that would get lost on a nail. We need to learn from your experience though, so I'd really like to find out if it's just one of the dual heaters cracked. You should obliterate people, not have them able to tell you coherent feedback and such like that. @stickstones may have the answer about quality over quantity although I'd like to have my finger on both those things at once, if possible. Let's see if your unit is at full temperature:

Verify VB2.0 is functioning correctly: It should self clean back to pure white in at least one cycle (20min), if black puddles stay around you've lost one of the heaters and you're locked in the low temp dabbing zone.

I think paranoia is warranted here because this thing costs real money and repair takes time, but at this moment... 2015, this is the only safe easy efficient dab we know. I know people are trying and failing to duplicate us. Our self imposed demand to base this thing on ceramic took us down a very difficult road. I'm hoping the expanded "super warranty" we've been giving to everybody in addition to their standard one keeps their units going strong for years. Think of it like a subscription..? It's not for everybody but for the people who need this sort of medication it's a life saver.

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

vaporbrothers said:
Appreciating your reports from the medicated side, everybody... Was cracking up over @KimDracula posts and other hard core members.

@pangeamus1c I've had both experiences, where I think VB2 gives more or less. With nails, the ability to carb cap tightly is definitely a thing. But with VB2, especially with my micro dabs I get a thick hit on something that would get lost on a nail. We need to learn from your experience though, so I'd really like to find out if it's just one of the dual heaters cracked. You should obliterate people, not have them able to tell you coherent feedback and such like that. @stickstones may have the answer about quality over quantity although I'd like to have my finger on both those things at once, if possible. Let's see if your unit is at full temperature:

Verify VB2.0 is functioning correctly: It should self clean back to pure white in at least one cycle (20min), if black puddles stay around you've lost one of the heaters and you're locked in the low temp dabbing zone.

I think paranoia is warranted here because this thing costs real money and repair takes time, but at this moment... 2015, this is the only safe easy efficient dab we know. I know people are trying and failing to duplicate us. Our self imposed demand to base this thing on ceramic took us down a very difficult road. I'm hoping the expanded "super warranty" we've been giving to everybody in addition to their standard one keeps their units going strong for years. Think of it like a subscription..? It's not for everybody but for the people who need this sort of medication it's a life saver.

I totally hear you on the safety, and efficiency, I also think when it comes to introducing people to the dab world there is not a finer device. I also especially agree with you on the smaller dabs that would otherwise get lost in a nail - you can literally just crumble the smallest amount over the top which is awesome. I just tested the cycle and took a medium sized dab that and the disc was cleaned off far before the 20 minute marker so doesn't seem like any heater problems. However on medium temperature - I really find that dropping a medium to large size dab is wasted so as far as big dabs go you pretty much gotta rock the high temp. I just took the same size dab off the vb2 as before off a TI nail and there is no question on the smoke cloud exhale (way bigger cloud hitting from nail) which will forever have me curious as to why it is so much smaller coming from the vb2 - is the science behind it that the vb2 is at such a perfect temperature "Laden frost effect" that it only burns the thc goodness off into your lounges and leaves everything else on the disc to clean off later? Lots of testing has me off in my thoughts if you know what i mean

-- Appreciate you posting back VB - always awesome customer service.

-Tay

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

vaporbrothers said:
Today, talking to @GR we are pretty sure that the VB2.5 surface is really good for converting dabs to vapor- something about how it's not perfectly smooth, but also that it does not form a cold spot when the dab is applied. Ceramic has a much higher heat capacity than metal, which means it stores a lot more energy in the material per degree F that it gains/loses.
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I think the cold spot it what really hurts the larger dabs making the vb 2.5 more geared to the users who prefer the larger sized dabs

herbivore21 · Aug 24, 2015

vaporbrothers said:
Appreciating your reports from the medicated side, everybody... Was cracking up over @KimDracula posts and other hard core members.

Welcome @Cephalotus , I see Kim answered it.

I've been waiting for people to need the 14mm male dome, so now that it's mentioned more than once I'll make a drawing and get samples, although it may take some months. Use an adapter for now. If it's for a Nectar Collector yes the glass is heavy. It could cause the dome to rotate off, especially when the unit goes on auto-off and cools down. A tighter dome can be made by putting a silicone ring inside the grip- I can send you one of these if you message me. Although, I could keep the ground joint very vertical, slightly less convenient vaporizing posture, but safer- sounds good?

Thank you everybody who has supported us so far!

Yes, "Level H" which is an ungodly number of degrees above what is popularly acceptable in dabbing circles. The oils don't settle into the surface and they vaporize before they know what the heck happened to them. It's my setting of choice- any less and it gets that "low temp dabbing" which to me is a hit or two of terpine wonder followed by a long road of smoky hell- even when properly capped.. I'm trying to like it though.

Today, talking to @GR we are pretty sure that the VB2.5 surface is really good for converting dabs to vapor- something about how it's not perfectly smooth, but also that it does not form a cold spot when the dab is applied. Ceramic has a much higher heat capacity than metal, which means it stores a lot more energy in the material per degree F that it gains/loses.

@KimDracula You asked what's the longest period of time between repairs- that might be @Vitolo 's unit, and some demo units here that have lasted for years. Some people have zero repairs despite constant use. But heated ceramic cracks at random so some people have multiple repairs. VB2.0's bain is one or both heaters cracking. VB2.5 is a different story- the heater is indestructible, but lately they've been cooking their electronics when left on long periods. Working on that constantly.

@pangeamus1c I've had both experiences, where I think VB2 gives more or less. With nails, the ability to carb cap tightly is definitely a thing. But with VB2, especially with my micro dabs I get a thick hit on something that would get lost on a nail. We need to learn from your experience though, so I'd really like to find out if it's just one of the dual heaters cracked. You should obliterate people, not have them able to tell you coherent feedback and such like that. @stickstones may have the answer about quality over quantity although I'd like to have my finger on both those things at once, if possible. Let's see if your unit is at full temperature:

Verify VB2.0 is functioning correctly: It should self clean back to pure white in at least one cycle (20min), if black puddles stay around you've lost one of the heaters and you're locked in the low temp dabbing zone.

I think paranoia is warranted here because this thing costs real money and repair takes time, but at this moment... 2015, this is the only safe easy efficient dab we know. I know people are trying and failing to duplicate us. Our self imposed demand to base this thing on ceramic took us down a very difficult road. I'm hoping the expanded "super warranty" we've been giving to everybody in addition to their standard one keeps their units going strong for years. Think of it like a subscription..? It's not for everybody but for the people who need this sort of medication it's a life saver.

I've gotta say man, not at all meaning to company bash - your service seems quite good and your presence here is something I do really appreciate - you make an effort to connect with the community and that is admirable

However, for those who live on the other side of the world from you (who frequently ask if I would recommend your product), I couldn't recommend a VB2.0 at all. Knowing they may have to send the unit away for repairs and be without for weeks (even if express shipping is used both ways, which can cost hundreds of dollars alone) to months is just unacceptable, especially for such a pricey product (and everyone here knows I am not just being cheap, and certainly am not afraid of dropping 4 figures on a single vape item, let alone the 3 for this one).

For people that live in Asia, Europe and Oceania it is really pretty out of the question to even think about buying something from an American manufacturer that is likely to need returning due to heater malfunction.

Is the heater failure issue being revised in a new 2.0 model, or is this heater failure thing potentially gonna keep happening? I wanna gauge the state of R & D into fixing this problem as I regularly get people asking me if I would recommend your products. As such, I want to understand the situation more clearly so I can respond to them accurately.

By the way, with regard to the extra vapor production on the 2.5 heater, I have noticed the same on Silicon Carbide vs standard ceramics. Much denser aerosol is produced with SiC and since SiN has very similar thermal properties, I would not be surprised if the same thing happens.

vaporbrothers · Aug 24, 2015

pangeamus1c said:
I totally hear you, especially on the smaller dabs that would therefore get lost in a nail - you can literally just crumble the smallest amount over the top which is awesome. I'll test out the full cleaning cycle and get back to you. --- So just tested the cycle and took a medium sized dab that was cleaned off far before the 20 minute marker so doesn't seem like the device is off. However on medium - I really find that dropping a medium to large size dab is wasted so as far as big dabs go you pretty much gotta rock the high temp. I just took the same size dab as before off a nail and there is no question on the smoke cloud (way bigger cloud hitting from nail) which will forever have me curious as to why it is so much smaller coming from the vb2 - is the science behind it that the vb2 is at such a perfect temperature "Laden frost effec" that it only burns the thc goodness off into your lounges and leaves everything else on the disc to clean off later? Lots of testing has me off in my thoughts if you know what i mean

OK sounds like the unit is at temperature if it self cleans before 20 minutes.

I've heard of medium not keeping up with a big dab. On VB2.0 the disc drops temperature if you really fill it with oil. VB2.5 doesn't give a crap about what you put in it- there is no ceramic disc and the heater is a 1/4" thick chunk of silicon nitride. But back to VB2.0 (the white model) I'd like to hear what the H setting does for you. I believe the H setting vaporizes the whole dab at once (fully decarbing as well), leaving nothing to clean except a little residue. You can take the next hit before the residue is gone btw... it's not much.

So far our theory on dabbing is that a "perfect temperature" depends on so much (the wax itself, winterized or not, temperature drop, etc) that perfection can only be found using a temp gage and the same wax over and over. When I use VB2, I turn it to the highest setting and forget temperature. Over about 750 or 800F, the "leidenfrost effect" means the oils dance on the surface, held in the air above the plate by their own evaporating. The exact temp kind of doesn't matter anymore. The oils are inhaled completely in a second or less- before they can even think of changing flavor.

For me, when a dabbing device gives you thc goodness then leaves stuff behind to smoke away slowly... that's "low temp dabbing," known to cause "fractional distillation." The lighter more volatile components come off first, leaving the rest of the medicine behind to cook off slower. Disclaimer... This is an evolving opinion of mine over a few years, influenced by what we hear from our customers and people who study extracts- not actually verified by scientific study. I'm open to hearing arguments for/against different temperature strategies. Thank you.

pangeamus1c · Aug 24, 2015

herbivore21 said:
I've gotta say man, not at all meaning to company bash - your service seems quite good and your presence here is something I do really appreciate - you make an effort to connect with the community and that is admirable

However, for those who live on the other side of the world from you (who frequently ask if I would recommend your product), I couldn't recommend a VB2.0 at all. Knowing they may have to send the unit away for repairs and be without for weeks (even if express shipping is used both ways, which can cost hundreds of dollars alone) to months is just unacceptable, especially for such a pricey product (and everyone here knows I am not just being cheap, and certainly am not afraid of dropping 4 figures on a single vape item, let alone the 3 for this one).

For people that live in Asia, Europe and Oceania it is really pretty out of the question to even think about buying something from an American manufacturer that is likely to need returning due to heater malfunction.

Is the heater failure issue being revised in a new 2.0 model, or is this heater failure thing potentially gonna keep happening? I wanna gauge the state of R & D into fixing this problem as I regularly get people asking me if I would recommend your products. As such, I want to understand the situation more clearly so I can respond to them accurately.

By the way, with regard to the extra vapor production on the 2.5 heater, I have noticed the same on Silicon Carbide vs standard ceramics. Much denser aerosol is produced with SiC and since SiN has very similar thermal properties, I would not be surprised if the same thing happens.

Id say that is pretty fair and spot on - It is just a tough position with the vb 2.5 out now and doing so much better - and not having access to upgrading to it for the price difference after so many heater issues with the vb2 - feels a bit like giving a company money for beta testing then not getting any sort of discount once the product is out of testing phase but I guess repeatedly fixing a broken product is their way of handling the vb2 issue for people, not exactly my style of business as I would have preferred to know I was basically a beta tester for the vb2 heaters before making such a large purchase but they made their mind up on allowing customer upgrades once they made the vb2.5 so guess it is what it is :/

vaporbrothers · Aug 24, 2015

pangeamus1c said:
Id say that is pretty fair and spot on - It is just a tough position with the vb 2.5 out now and doing so much better - and not having access to upgrading to it for the price difference after so many heater issues with the vb2 - feels a bit like giving a company money for beta testing then not getting any sort of discount once the product is out of testing phase but I guess repeatedly fixing a broken product is their way of handling the vb2 issue for people, not exactly my style of business as I would have preferred to know I was basically a beta tester for the vb2 heaters before making such a large purchase but they made their mind up on allowing customer upgrades once they made the vb2.5 so guess it is what it is :/

I totally get you, and we are not a normal business, although the beta is a few years gone- now it's just a vaporizer that we continually tweak and improve. This might seem like what other business do although the typical American cycle means hurrying to release new product every year with additional features, not necessarily fixes to the old ones. We also are completely self funded, meaning what you pay keeps us open. No dot.com or bubble burst millionaires making this possible. We're also a bit different in that our VB1 and VB2 products are invented by us out of thin air, with no existing designs to copy or follow. You can't imagine how much a knockoff company is saving by just picking up the design once we've got it going. (R&D and tooling is 6-7 figures over several years) So in a way, well maybe yes you are funding development (which is how the world was supposed to work back in the day...), if a knockoff to VB2 comes out you can purchase it just for the material cost, not the development cost. We make no profit (any we do helps medical patients) so every dollar earned from VB1, 2, 11 is very carefully spread among bills, most often not covering the due. What we give in return is the best hit from a device that settles into the home nicely, no lead dust, plastic smell no, and it's sweatshop free as well. Feel good you have a piece of American ingenuity

... Although, again, your hits should be obliterating-- keep testing and I'll get to the bottom of what's going on if you're not satisfied.

Fyi, we can offer an trade of VB2.0 for VB2.5 although they both have their benefits & limitations (mentioned above) and VB2.5 is completely different in cost and how it works. "No" is not really an answer that we stick with. Try us again (Actually, Steph is trying to figure out who you are so she can call you to describe the upgrade possibility)- or direct message me.

KimDracula · Aug 24, 2015

My VB2 is on its way home. :tup:

Thanks for the awesome customer service, VB. With this kind of support it's hard to complain.

I'm not yet certain if it was a heater issue (although a heating element issue is what was suspected initially), but regardless of my particular issue, is there anything we can do as VB2 users to protect it a little bit and perhaps lengthen it's life between servicings? I know you said it's basically random, but have you got any tips?

pangeamus1c · Aug 25, 2015

vaporbrothers said:
Fyi, we can offer an trade of VB2.0 for VB2.5 although they both have their benefits & limitations (mentioned above) and VB2.5 is completely different in cost and how it works. "No" is not really an answer that we stick with. Try us again (Actually, Steph is trying to figure out who you are so she can call you to describe the upgrade possibility)- or direct message me.

Sent you a Direct Message

KimDracula · Aug 26, 2015

My buddy came back home this morning. We bonded all over again over some Amnesia Haze and some Cookies CO2 shatter. The heat is high and the vapor is thick. VB customer service on this unreal warranty has been unbelievable. If you're not real far away from VB and you're worried about failures on this unit: as long as you can be patient for a week their unbelievable warranty and support staff will take great care of you.

I am so spoiled lately.

(those two little dabs are creeeeepin' on me)

mixchu69 · Sep 5, 2015

Went on the website and saw the inline bubbler. Very nice. Especially those who don't like whips.

KimDracula · Sep 7, 2015

mixchu69 said:
Went on the website and saw the inline bubbler. Very nice. Especially those who don't like whips.

I can't wait to ditch whips for good. This inline bubbler is a better version of what I'm already using with my VB2, but with a whip unfortunately. I'm becoming an unbelievable snob when it comes to flavor and you just can't keep tubing clean. It doesn't really taste bad to me but ends up canceling the flavor of new flowers/concentrates somewhat. I feel I should give my bank account some time to recover, though, after the unusual one-two punch of purchasing the VB2 and the EVO. It's funny how much spending money seems to encourage spending more money. That bubbler is nice, though. I'm definitely grabbing one if they keep it around for a bit. I'll likely pick up one of the glass direct draw straws, too.

A1FBG · Sep 9, 2015

KimDracula said:
I can't wait to ditch whips for good. This inline bubbler is a better version of what I'm already using with my VB2, but with a whip unfortunately. I'm becoming an unbelievable snob when it comes to flavor and you just can't keep tubing clean. It doesn't really taste bad to me but ends up canceling the flavor of new flowers/concentrates somewhat. I feel I should give my bank account some time to recover, though, after the unusual one-two punch of purchasing the VB2 and the EVO. It's funny how much spending money seems to encourage spending more money. That bubbler is nice, though. I'm definitely grabbing one if they keep it around for a bit. I'll likely pick up one of the glass direct draw straws, too.

happens to the best of us. i understand you dont want to purchase any more items but maybe purchase some new silicon tubing which would be a cheap fix for your issues

7th floor has 20ft for $20 dollars. You can cut/divide the tubing with scissors and have multiple whips ready for when that replacement starts to taste bad

Silver420Surfer · Sep 9, 2015

Anybody near Boulder, Co, have a VB2.5?
If so, I'll provide the meds for a session(top shelf, no tane soup)!

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