Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
No. At first I thought this was a convection dab, but it's not. the dab sits on the bottom of the hot glass nail until is starts to boil from conduction. Then you start sucking, which introduces an element of convection, but I think it is still mostly conduction. imo, the great results come from the all glass system and the heat control which makes it easy to duplicate results. it's an all glass heater heating up a glass surface and delivering the vapor through an all glass air path...yummy!
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
@Seek did a great job above responding to your questions. To your points just above . . .
Not weird, typical. You are, as you suggest, probably inhaling harder than needed. The EVO is intended for taking a comfortable, steady draw. Usually a draw that is near the whistle is near the optimum in terms of airflow efficiency.
And yes, quite a few have posted about how surprisingly light the unit is (and have also suggested a foot weight). One reason that material was chosen was because of its temp properties. EVO is able to maintain temp regardless of how it's being hit, which can result in a mighty hot interior. The material helps keep the lower section cool to touch and protects the electronics (behind the switch & knob), while throwing off heat at the top. You could fry an egg on the original Cloud's aluminum housing.
KimDracula
Well-Known Member
My hydrafoot, though hollow, doesn't have a big enough space to fit the VXNails, either. Perhaps this is the new standard. I was also expecting it to fit. I was wondering about those quartz VXNs. What is the advantage here? Are they more durable or are there other factors?
The gold VXH logo on the front of my HT is fading fast as well, due only to handling it seems, as I don't immerse it in iso or any other cleaning solution when I clean it.
I tried using the heat shield. I like the look and the feel of it, but I just can't handle the smell of the material whether being heated or not. Luckily the unit is easily handled by the bottom portion.
I think you're right when it comes to the results produced with the VXNails via convection. The combination of the relatively low temperature slowly applied, all glass pathway, and convection heating contribute to a pretty unique experience. (EDIT: Looks like Stickstones is right about this now that I think about it. There is a good bit of conduction involved after all) I tend, usually, to dab with the VB2, but am always delighted with the VXNail. I wonder if it is actually more efficient than other methods or if the vapor is just less dense when done with the VXNs.
The gold VXH logo on the front of my HT is fading fast as well, due only to handling it seems, as I don't immerse it in iso or any other cleaning solution when I clean it.
I tried using the heat shield. I like the look and the feel of it, but I just can't handle the smell of the material whether being heated or not. Luckily the unit is easily handled by the bottom portion.
I think you're right when it comes to the results produced with the VXNails via convection. The combination of the relatively low temperature slowly applied, all glass pathway, and convection heating contribute to a pretty unique experience. (EDIT: Looks like Stickstones is right about this now that I think about it. There is a good bit of conduction involved after all) I tend, usually, to dab with the VB2, but am always delighted with the VXNail. I wonder if it is actually more efficient than other methods or if the vapor is just less dense when done with the VXNs.
Vessel
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For the warranty repairs- Is anyone aware of how long the turn around usually is now that their operation is running more smoothly? My unit arrived last Fri.
Previously my units have always broken right when they were having problems with production or something else, it's has been twice now that I've waited over 3 months to get a working unit again.
Previously my units have always broken right when they were having problems with production or something else, it's has been twice now that I've waited over 3 months to get a working unit again.
YaFreekin Right
Well-Known Member
My turn around to Canada was less than 2weeks. They should only need to have it in-house for less than a week.
A1FBG
Active Member
Stickstones is correct about the process. Check out this post https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/vaping-versus-dabbing-why-you-should-care-about-heat
The main paragraph i wanted to share is :
"In an attempt make the process healthier, Shen and his team have designed a concentrate attachment that lets consumers vaporize cannabis concentrates rather than dab them, which uses a mixture of vaporization and combustion to transform concentrate into a smokeable form."
I definitely do agree with the all glass air pathway being so beneficial to the taste the VXN produces
but im mainly so curious to how the VXN is so efficient. i see people using these uber super small dabs!
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
The first shield I received had no neoprene odor at all, but one I received last week which was enclosed in a sealed plastic wrap, certainly had a strong smell. I put the shield on my EVO and ran it through about a half-dozen hour cycles, and the smell has mostly dissipated. I have to get my nose fairly close to smell it now. Of course, my schnoz may be a lot less astute than yours, so YMMV. At any rate, appears the smell goes away before too long.
EDIT: Fwiw . . . I don't like the bottom velcro strap. I've fit 2 wrist bands around the shield below the logo and below the knob cutout. IMO holds the shield in place just as well if not better.
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Dr. Plutonious
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Has anyone used more than one of the current hydratubes?
I'm going to be buying an EVO in the next couple weeks (my second one, actually) and plan on getting a tube with it. I'm leaning towards a hydrabomb right now, with the intention of using it mostly with herb. Anyone have some comparisons of the tube that might be of value to me? The turbine also looks interesting.
I'm going to be buying an EVO in the next couple weeks (my second one, actually) and plan on getting a tube with it. I'm leaning towards a hydrabomb right now, with the intention of using it mostly with herb. Anyone have some comparisons of the tube that might be of value to me? The turbine also looks interesting.
bigtvapes
Well-Known Member
The smell of the neoprene sleeve never went away for me. It reeks longer and stronger than the materials I vape. For real. People notice the chemical smell from the neoprene before they smell herb in my limited experience. Maybe thats a plus to some, but I cant stand the smell so I stopped using it all together. I just took it off.
I started to hold it by the base and gently support the hydratube. NBD. The base never gets super hot anyway. The top half can be uncomfortable to touch. But nothing that cant be fixed with a wristband if you wish.
I started to hold it by the base and gently support the hydratube. NBD. The base never gets super hot anyway. The top half can be uncomfortable to touch. But nothing that cant be fixed with a wristband if you wish.
c76man
In search of the best terps and smoothest vapor
I have 4 hydratubes. The hydrabomb is my second favorite after my custom recycler piece. Good balance of diffusion and flavor. The bomb is a good choice.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
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Custom Recycler?? Pics please!! And uhhhhh I want one!!!
c76man
In search of the best terps and smoothest vapor
Sorry to get your hopes up. I was referring to my Doughboy Klein piece. IIRC you are very familiar those, since I think you have one as well.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Thanks man. I'm going with the bomb then. I didn't need much persuading lol.
A. I like pieces with some extra diffusion.
B. I've always wanted a matrix perc but have yet to own one.
C. I like effortless pulls.
harmless healing
Well-Known Member
Also went for the bomb and haven't been disappointed. Great balance of diffusion and flavour. An easy draw is vital for me as my temporal mandibular joint is all kinds of out of line, the bomb delivers so well on this front its all I have been using.
The beauty of the perc is also rather astounding (my first matrix also)
You won't be disappointed.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
I have high hopes!
Though I've owned an EVO for a long time, this will be my first hydratube purchase. I've only used pinnacle water tools/ the FBomb with it before. They worked ok for oil and flowers, but I feel like I've been missing out (though, the EVO just kicks ass with glass regardless).
Cannabis Connoisseur
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Just got this today
http://www.brotherswithglass.com/Grav-Labs-Hydratube-for-VapeXhale-with-Circ-Perc-p/bwg-glvxcr.htm Paid $135 shipped, had a $15 coupon!
I sold the Tree version because it was too restrictive. This one is awesome!
http://www.brotherswithglass.com/Grav-Labs-Hydratube-for-VapeXhale-with-Circ-Perc-p/bwg-glvxcr.htm Paid $135 shipped, had a $15 coupon!
I sold the Tree version because it was too restrictive. This one is awesome!
DaftDrunk
Well-Known Member
Weird, mine smelled terrible at first but went away 2 days later, maybe try leaving it outside for a day or two?
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
I notice it's a circ; how smooth is it, any chugginess? How tall is the body?
bigtvapes
Well-Known Member
Tried that. Still stinks. I thought it was just me but guests smell it to. Its REALLY not THAT big of a deal. I just prefer the unit sans neoprene smell.... so I took away the sleeve. Just a personal choice.
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It's very smooth, no chug. A mini rumble of water. It's 5.2 inches to the top of the can and 7.2 to the top of the mouthpiece. It doesn't require any water really. It's awesome in flavor and still really smooth. It also doesn't require a stand(hydrafoot). For the price a steal. Aesthetically it's flawless.
We've been doing lots of testing to determine if it is conductive, convection, or radiant heat. Our conclusion is that is a combination of all three but the net/net is that whatever you want to call it, it is far more efficient than conventional dabbing.
I also wanted to make a quick announcement that @stickstones has been appointed our official VapeXhale point of contact for the FC forum. My only regret about starting this company is that I am no longer able to consistently spend time here. I've known Sticks since 2008 and he is someone I completely trust and has intimate knowledge of the device.
Lastly, I thought you guys might get a kick out of this VapeXhale appearance on the Cannabusiness Report
harmless healing
Well-Known Member
Both green and red light lit up at the same time on an international unit. What does this mean? First time seeing this, and I am concerned even though a simple power cycle seems to have solved it...
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
@stickstones is the absolute man! There isn't a better person on here for the job. He really brings the VXH love to all the users here. He hooked me up with my replacement EVO and has given a lot of other users great support and info over the years.