Recommend me a portable/handheld capable of vaping herb and hash.

I tried the search function (since I expected this to have been asked again and again) but I didn't have any luck - forgive me if it's a duplicate post and please direct me to existing threads. I find the market totally overwhelming and review sites rife with contradictory testimony.

My only vapeorizer is a Vaponic. I am very pleased with the taste and simplicity of the Vaponic, being 100% borosilicate glass. However it is a bit fragile, and using a crack-pipe lighter can be a pain at times (they're always breaking). My new device must be electric.

I consume mostly dry herb (non-skunk/thai/bush weed) but I also like hash (solid or squidgy) when it's available. My new device must be able to cope with both types. At a push, I will settle for something that's better with plant matter, but can still manage hashish.

I'm not looking to take the device out of the home very often, perhaps to the park occasionally. Stealth is not a high-priority issue.

I tend not to consume vast quantities in a sitting, so anything that demands you stuff it with tons of product is probably unsuitable.

I am skeptical of many cheap designs I see, with circuit boards close to hot components. I am moving to vapor for health concerns, so non-off-gassing is a high priority for me. Having been spoilt by the cleanliness of boro glass, taste is also a fairly high priority.

I would like to spend about 150GBP ≈ 230USD, but suggestions below this price are most welcome. I have a maximum of about 200GBP ≈ 300USD to invest in my new device. I may flex a little if my expectations are too high for this price bracket.

Thanks, Vaporados.

There are probably several that would meet your needs. I can recommend the Firefly because I've owned one for over a year. They had battery issues a while back but have since updated to a new battery that has corrected that issue. You also get a 5 year warranty and great customer service.

Check the reviews out on youtube and the thread here at FC. I have strayed more towards some other vapes but they are not electric portables. For this category I really like my FF and it gives real tasty hits without requiring a lot of herb. They cost $270 and I would buy from the manufacturer because there are a lot of knock offs.

The Davinci Ascent is a flavor monster and does quite well with flower. The hash would probably need to be mixed with flower, but I've not tried it myself.

However, I think the Haze vaporizer is right up your alley. It can handle flower and concentrates very well, and I believe people have reported good success with Hash in the cans. The Haze just received a pretty solid upgrade as well that will likely improve upon what was already a really solid and flexible little device.

And should you decide to go outside the home, the Haze is easily pocketable and travels really well. There are also some killer accessories Haze produces for the unit, and a rock solid 10 year warranty comes along with the unit, plus you have the expertise of our own @scottg402.

Although I've had great customer service with most of my vapes, Haze has stood at the very top and have always been responsive to feedback.

Try looking at the Rastabuddhatao threads. The first 100 Zion's are in production and due out next month with two different developments of the same technology to follow. There is also a web site in the same name. The Zion is far from fragile one of the beta units had a car parked on top of it. Ask any questions on one of the threads everyone is helpful and friendly.

Thanks for the responses. I think I'm going to go with the Haze. Reviews have been excellent, customer service sounds second-to-none, and the 10 year warranty is very appealing. A UK site is selling them for 148GBP = 226USD.

bibblybobbly said:

Thanks for the responses. I think I'm going to go with the Haze. Reviews have been excellent, customer service sounds second-to-none, and the 10 year warranty is very appealing. A UK site is selling them for 148GBP = 226USD.

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This is what I would have recommended. My first and only vape is the Haze (though now I am coveting an Underdog).

You may want to contact Haze with the name of the UK vendor just to be sure they are the real deal. I do not think there are replicas of the Haze out there yet, but it pays to be cautious when you are spending this much money.

I really only vape flower, but have vaped wax as well. The Haze customer service is fantastic, as is the warranty.

Enjoy!

bibblybobbly said:

Thanks for the responses. I think I'm going to go with the Haze. Reviews have been excellent, customer service sounds second-to-none, and the 10 year warranty is very appealing. A UK site is selling them for 148GBP = 226USD.

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Before you order see if you can check if you would be receiving the newest version otherwise I would order directly from Haze or contact them to see the best way of ordering the V3 locally. Wouldnt want to buy the V2.5 at almost full price at the same time the upgrade is released... but great choice

Hes talking about eu import hash ... dont get a haze. The best vape for import hash is the vapman ... just ask @NorVape (our resident import hash specialist!!)

You will have to learn to drive a manual so to speak .. but it will be worth it. Make sure to pick up some concentrate screens though.

You mean pressed import hash? Trust me on the Vapman

Does the Haze not work with solid hash (the type commonly found imported from Morocco etc. in Europe)? What if I warm it up and smoosh it out a bit, to increase its surface area?

I sometimes have access to better quality squidgy hash, but you're correct to assume that this is my main type of hashish. I've only ever read about these exotic "oils" and products made with butane and so forth.

As I said, my new device must be electric. I already own a blowtorch-powered device that copes with pressed hash incredibly well (the Vaponic). I certainly have no desire to spend 80GBP+ on a device with no batteries when the 25GBP Vaponic works so well. Plus it's all glass .

But thanks all the same.

bibblybobbly said:

Does the Haze not work with solid hash

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Best way to find out is to post in the Haze forum where you will get the largest number of Haze users to read it. Surely SOME Haze user will have tried this.

bibblybobbly said:

Does the Haze not work with solid hash (the type commonly found imported from Morocco etc. in Europe)? What if I warm it up and smoosh it out a bit, to increase its surface area?

I sometimes have access to better quality squidgy hash, but you're correct to assume that this is my main type of hashish. I've only ever read about these exotic "oils" and products made with butane and so forth.

As I said, my new device must be electric. I already own a blowtorch-powered device that copes with pressed hash incredibly well (the Vaponic). I certainly have no desire to spend 80GBP+ on a device with no batteries when the 25GBP Vaponic works so well. Plus it's all glass .

But thanks all the same.

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Take a look at making rosin from your solid hash. Link

This should open up the number of devices that will work for you.

What about the Arizer Air, it has the all glass air path. It's a well made vaporizer that is new to the market as of last November (2014) There have been very few faulty units on FC. It looks like an E-Cigar check out the Air thread. It's very stealth, easy to use and has good flavor.

Most important thing that I forgot about the Air, it has user replaceable batteries. You can buy as many as you think you will need so your vaporizer will be ready at a moments notice.

The Solo is also an Arizer product a larger version of the Air, bigger around. It's about the size of a can of Red Bull. It the tank of portables IMO.

The Grasshopper vaporizer isn't really available to order and get within a week. It's very small, pen like vape that will actually vaporize flowers. The company just started putting these units together and they are high in demand. If you buy one now you might get one next spring or summer. Hopefully it will be a success story.

NorVape said:

You mean pressed import hash? Trust me on the Vapman

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Could you expand on this a little further? Is the problem that the EU hash is too chunky and rock solid, so it doesn't release vapour evenly? I feel like I could remedy this by gently warming it and spreading it around to increase its surface area.

I'm now debating whether to get a Haze or an Arizer Air/Solo since they are similarly priced. To be honest, it doesn't bother me that much if solid hash doesn't work perfectly in my new device; I still have my trusty Vaponic if I really need.

Using a butane lighter is personal preference. The Vapman gets a lot of praise from a lot of FCers it's a very popular vaporizer. They last a long time is what I hear, so they must me well made . It sounds like there have been a few vaporizers that you can look into. We love our vapes around here.

@bibblybobbly Welcome to the fun of FC. You may also learn a lot too, some very nice folks around here.

The vapman would be my first recommendation for hash and herb. The haze is also pretty good with both just not as efficient as the vapman imo.

With the vapman you put hash on screens and slide them in the bowl. Judt crumble or smear a tiny ammount on the screen, depending on what texture the hash is.

The problem with vaping middle eastern style hashish with a lot of vapes is that it gunks up a vape quick, and is hard to clean.

The removable hash screens for vapman make it ideal for this purpose

I think maybe the GoBoof Alfa have a similar screen thing, and that's electric.

I know nothing more about that vaporizer in particular.

Crumbling some hash and putting it in cotton also works with quite a few vapes.

bibblybobbly said:

Could you expand on this a little further? Is the problem that the EU hash is too chunky and rock solid, so it doesn't release vapour evenly? I feel like I could remedy this by gently warming it and spreading it around to increase its surface area.

I'm now debating whether to get a Haze or an Arizer Air/Solo since they are similarly priced. To be honest, it doesn't bother me that much if solid hash doesn't work perfectly in my new device; I still have my trusty Vaponic if I really need.

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I have and like both. One thing to consider with the haze is that, when you're ready, you can buy an upgrade and have upgrades with no additional expense with each new model.

NorVape said:

With the vapman you put hash on screens and slide them in the bowl. Judt crumble or smear a tiny ammount on the screen, depending on what texture the hash is.

The problem with vaping middle eastern style hashish with a lot of vapes is that it gunks up a vape quick, and is hard to clean.

The removable hash screens for vapman make it ideal for this purpose

I think maybe the GoBoof Alfa have a similar screen thing, and that's electric.

I know nothing more about that vaporizer in particular.

Crumbling some hash and putting it in cotton also works with quite a few vapes.

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Thanks for the info. AAARGH I'm so confused, but your help (and others') have allowed me to narrow it down some. I'm flitting between the Haze (with its explicit hash and herb capability, warranty and customer service) and the Arizer Air (with its simple design, robust build quality and stellar reviews.) I think if I also started researching the GoBoof I would go insane.

Just out of interest, when Haze markets their device as "hash-capable", what kind of hash are they talking about? The fact that the Haze is explicitly a herb-and-hash device (whereas I believe the Air is herb-only) makes me lean more towards it, but maybe this is moot if they're talking about some drastically different kind of hash. I can imagine any hash will gunk up a heating chamber as it melts, unless it is suspended in some kind of pipe-screen mesh. It certainly leaves a lot of mess in my Vaponic.

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when Haze markets their device as "hash-capable", what kind of hash are they talking about?

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I believe most vapes that say they do "Concentrates" or "hash" mean they do hash oils, waxes and other "full melt" concentrates you find mainly in the USA and not pressed "old world" style hash, which is why people who vape your style of hash tried to steer you towards the vapman which will vape the solid Hashish of which you speak.

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I believe most vapes that say they do "Concentrates" or "hash" mean they do hash oils, waxes and other "full melt" concentrates you find mainly in the USA and not pressed "old world" style hash, which is why people who vape your style of hash tried to steer you towards the vapman which will vape solid the Hashish of which you speak.

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I was thinking of this thread when I read the recent review of the Haze V3 the vapecritic just posted. He specified "full melt" concentrates.
So, as much as I love the Haze, I, too, wonder if it will work.
@bibblybobbly you may want to contact Haze directly (their customer service is great) and ask. If they cannot say for sure but you really want to try it, ask them if they will refund your money if it DOESN'T work for your hash, if they say "yes," you could try it. I imagine a lot of lurkers are wondering and you could be doing them, and Haze a favor by being the guinea pig.

RUDE BOY said:

I believe most vapes that say they do "Concentrates" or "hash" mean they do hash oils, waxes and other "full melt" concentrates you find mainly in the USA and not pressed "old world" style hash, which is why people who vape your style of hash tried to steer you towards the vapman which will vape the solid Hashish of which you speak.

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Thanks for the advice. I think we may be in need of an American-British dictionary/glossary of "concentrate" terminology to clear up confusions like this in the future.

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I was thinking of this thread when I read the recent review of the Haze V3 the vapecritic just posted. He specified "full melt" concentrates.
So, as much as I love the Haze, I, too, wonder if it will work.
@bibblybobbly you may want to contact Haze directly (their customer service is great) and ask. If they cannot say for sure but you really want to try it, ask them if they will refund your money if it DOESN'T work for your hash, if they say "yes," you could try it. I imagine a lot of lurkers are wondering and you could be doing them, and Haze a favor by being the guinea pig.

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I have had some correspondence with the Haze team and they seem mighty helpful. But I think a refund contract contingent on my ability to vape a particular kind of hash might be a tall order. And at 200GBP (including international shipping) it's too dear for me to experiment with! Hopefully with @peterpiper's advice, I'll be able to use any kind of hash in the cheaper Air.

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Thanks for the advice. I think we may be in need of an American-British dictionary/glossary of "concentrate" terminology to clear up confusions like this in the future.


I have had some correspondence with the Haze team and they seem mighty helpful. But I think a refund contract contingent on my ability to vape a particular kind of hash might be a tall order. And at 200GBP (including international shipping) it's too dear for me to experiment with! Hopefully with @peterpiper's advice, I'll be able to use any kind of hash in the cheaper Air.

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Have you asked about hash on the Haze forum? I only use mine with dry leaf but it's designed to be able to vape anything. The upgrade program covers not only repairs but new upgrades. The newest version is out now so many owners are trading theirs in. You can message Scott who is on the Haze forum and he will find out if you can return yours if you don't like it.
I also love my Air and tend to use it a bit more than the Haze.

bibblybobbly said:

Thanks for the info. AAARGH I'm so confused, but your help (and others') have allowed me to narrow it down some. I'm flitting between the Haze (with its explicit hash and herb capability, warranty and customer service) and the Arizer Air (with its simple design, robust build quality and stellar reviews.) I think if I also started researching the GoBoof I would go insane.

Just out of interest, when Haze markets their device as "hash-capable", what kind of hash are they talking about? The fact that the Haze is explicitly a herb-and-hash device (whereas I believe the Air is herb-only) makes me lean more towards it, but maybe this is moot if they're talking about some drastically different kind of hash. I can imagine any hash will gunk up a heating chamber as it melts, unless it is suspended in some kind of pipe-screen mesh. It certainly leaves a lot of mess in my Vaponic.

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My choice would be the solo/ air if it's to be a portable,, I've been using herb, eu hash, Middle Eastern hash , bubble and oil thru my solo, the solo/air seems to handle everything I've put in there. The only down side for me is when using just hash it would be nice to have another couple of higher hear settings, but I norm vape at number 7 and clouds are thick and huge,for all materials that is. The Arizer are a very reliable product and glass pathway is the best I've tried in a portable.. Soooo many to choose from!!

Pay for the Crafty. You'll be happy.