Dynavap VapCap

Petro

Petro

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I wouldn't take @King_Bob 's pictures as the best representation of the VapCap's potential, looks like he is still getting the hang of using it. I'm pretty confident we will be able to get a full extraction out of the VapCap once we get the grind and heating methods sorted out.

@natural farmer The Vapman is a precision instrument, I wouldn't expect the VapCap to have the same control over the temps. While they both use torches the VapCap seems more like a baseball bat to the Vapman's scalpel, if you get my meaning. Nothing wrong with either approach but I really think the Vapman is something special - it won't be made redundant by the VapCap. This is not a slight on either vapes.

EDIT: Please re-upload the pics of the woody @King_Bob !!
 
little maggie

little maggie

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I just read back over the thread. There are comments on cases and gongs in earlier posts. I don't see those on the order page and they weren't there when I ordered several weeks ago. Can someone explain what happened to them?
 
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King_Bob

King_Bob

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Sorry about the pics - not sure what happened. I will repost them, tonight.

I just played with the VapCap for 20 minutes before I took the first pics, and two hours before I took the second abv pic. I agree that my extraction will get better as I continue to play with the vape. I was used to the Vapman combusting if I tired to extract too much from it. Was afriad that would also be the case with the VapCap...but so far I have not combusted like I do with my Vapman.

The flavor reminds me of the Daisy ...not sure if its because of the wood. The most important thing for me is that this produces the desired effect very quickly, efficiently, and it is so simpe to use.
 
Shit Snacks

Shit Snacks

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little maggie said:
I just read back over the thread. There are comments on cases and gongs in earlier posts. I don't see those on the order page and they weren't there when I ordered several weeks ago. Can someone explain what happened to them?
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Cases come with every VapCap, and GonGs are still under development as far as we know
 
King_Bob

King_Bob

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Here are some new pics





I was concerned that the Titanium with wood was hard to clean. But after checking with George I was able to easily take it apart and re-assemble it. This will be very easy to clean. I am enjoying this more with each use. it also seems to be producing much better vapor after I took it apart and re-assembled it.


 
natural farmer

natural farmer

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Petro said:
I wouldn't take @King_Bob 's pictures as the best representation of the VapCap's potential, looks like he is still getting the hang of using it. I'm pretty confident we will be able to get a full extraction out of the VapCap once we get the grind and heating methods sorted out.

@natural farmer The Vapman is a precision instrument, I wouldn't expect the VapCap to have the same control over the temps. While they both use torches the VapCap seems more like a baseball bat to the Vapman's scalpel, if you get my meaning. Nothing wrong with either approach but I really think the Vapman is something special - it won't be made redundant by the VapCap. This is not a slight on either vapes.

EDIT: Please re-upload the pics of the woody @King_Bob !!
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I just hope we also get a lower temp cap in the future and an explanation of how the airflow works… Convection, conduction?
 
King_Bob

King_Bob

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@natural farmer I am not convinced that a lower temp cap is needed or that it will work. I find that on the first heat cycle I need to keep the flame going for 1 second after the click in order to get vapor. After that each subsequent heat cycle lasts longer and produces more vapor.


Its also worth noting that the avb you saw in the pics was from material that was still moist and could not be ground up properly. I believe that is why it was difficult to get a full and even extraction. Once I have something a little drier I am sure the results will be better. I tried the same material with my Vapman and the avb from that is also looking uneven and not fully extracted. I agree that those pics are not a good representation of what the VapCap is capable of. I will post some new avb pics soon.
 
IAmKrazy2

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
natural farmer said:
I just hope we also get a lower temp cap in the future and an explanation of how the airflow works… Convection, conduction?
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How low you looking to go? If you use a lower flame, and heat the Vapcap slowly you can let off as soon as you hear the click and get low temp vapor. What i would consider very light brown to almost gold. Not low enough? It would be easy to use a VM style count where you hit the VC with two seconds of heat at a time and within a few uses you could easily zero in on exactly where you want to be with temp. I actually usually heat past the click by a couple seconds for full extraction.

I have both the VM and VC and i certainly don't believe that the VapMan has "a much better control over the temp" in fact i would say the opposite. Combusting with the VM is a serious concern that i don't have with the Cap. I am not ripping on the VM, but these are my observations.

A different low temp cap won't be produced or needed. The current click is in relation to the temp that SS flexes and constrict at and can't just be changed.

Some of the concerns i see people having won't be concern once you get a unit in hand IMO.

Alright. I know i have been slacking on the video. But it looks like some ABV shots are needed. I will go nug and ground material, high and low temps, and maybe some water hash for fun before and after. Should have time tomorrow afternoon.

Edit. Shit. Sorry for the double post mods.
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bounce5

bounce5

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King_Bob said:
Here are some new pics





I was concerned that the Titanium with wood was hard to clean. But after checking with George I was able to easily take it apart and re-assemble it. This will be very easy to clean. I am enjoying this more with each use. it also seems to be producing much better vapor after I took it apart and re-assembled it.


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@King_Bob That looks really great. You even got the updated version with the extra wide cooling rings that George posted a few days ago. A few questions: Could you show us how does oil tube sit up against the titanium piece? When it's all put together does it fit snugly, or does the glass inside jiggle at all when you shake it? It looks like there is an extra metal stopper on the mouthpiece...could we get a picture of that? Does that get hot? Can you easily remove it? Do you know how long the silicone O-rings should last? Does George send any extras? Also, it Would be awesome to see a video of you taking it apart and putting it back together and another one of you showing it in use. Thanks for sharing pictures!
 
vaporonly

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King_Bob said:
@natural farmer
Its also worth noting that the avb you saw in the pics was from material that was still moist and could not be ground up properly. I believe that is why it was difficult to get a full and even extraction. Once I have something a little drier I am sure the results will be better. I tried the same material with my Vapman and the avb from that is also looking uneven and not fully extracted. I agree that those pics are not a good representation of what the VapCap is capable of. I will post some new avb pics soon.
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Yes from the sounds of it this is the reason for the uneven extraction. If you had the basic you'd see the moisture in the tube before you started to see vapor. It's kind of cool.

Try regrinding it after a few times from the vape and it should grind down further...


IAmKrazy2 said:
How low you looking to go? If you use a lower flame, and heat the Vapcap slowly you can let off as soon as you hear the click and get low temp vapor. What i would consider very light brown to almost gold. Not low enough? It would be easy to use a VM style count where you hit the VC with two seconds of heat at a time and within a few uses you could easily zero in on exactly where you want to be with temp. I actually usually heat past the click by a couple seconds for full extraction.

I have both the VM and VC and i certainly don't believe that the VapMan has "a much better control over the temp" in fact i would say the opposite. Combusting with the VM is a serious concern that i don't have with the Cap. I am not ripping on the VM, but these are my observations.

A different low temp cap won't be produced or needed. The current click is in relation to the temp that SS flexes and constrict at and can't just be changed.

Some of the concerns i see people having won't be concern once you get a unit in hand IMO.
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My experiments thus far have shown if you use a lower flame and heat more slowly then it actually heats to a higher temp because of heat lag in clicking the click. It's when I use the triple torch on high that it feels like lower temps because there is less of a lag in the click...

I believe the click temp is alterable, but George would have to confirm. I believe it als o has to do with cap thickness
 
King_Bob

King_Bob

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@bounce5 There is no extra metal stopper on the mouthpiece, its just the lighting that makes it seem that way. The mouthpiece never comes close to getting hot or even warm.

When I shake it with some force it does rattle a little. But under normal use it feels very snug and there is no rattle.

You bring up a good point with regards to the O-rings. I believe George could inlcude an extra set as they will need to be replaced at some point. Maybe George can also offer a wear and tear kit which would include a Cap, o-rings, and an extra inner glass.

I like the idea that I can customize this with different wood or all titanium as those options become available.

As for taking it apart and together...you really don`t need a video for that. You simply pull out the titanium tip, and that releases the inner glass. To put it back together, first insert the inner glass and then put in the Titanium tip. It all fits together very easily and snugly.
 
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Mister G

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
So on the woody, how does that little carb hole work and/or interact with the glass liner, serves a purpose or how does that hole aid function? Are there openings in the glass insert? Or maybe the carb hole adds cool air with a separate airpath as the vapor? I'm guessing i'm close, but would like to hear an official explanation from George or an owner.
 
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Adobewan

Adobewan

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To all FC brethren who already have a VapCap,

I've talked to George about collecting tips, techniques, and tricks you've been using with your VCs, so that I can put together a modest users manual that could be release with the production units.

I think George will be reaching out to you guys, and some non FC users, but thought I'd reach out myself and ask you guys to PM me with any/all of your input.

Best,
Adobewan
 
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