Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
So does anyone think the halogen lightbulb of my Aromed might do the job? Or what about keeping herbs in a warm oven for a while?

Do you think the dark surface of the cast iron affects the results more positively than if it wasn't dark?

Sorta unrelated: Most people think seasoning pizza pans is about creating a nonstick surface on the inside or top of the pan, but it's actually about giving the bottom (or outside) of the pan a dark surface, to make it absorb heat faster, which most efficiently bakes your pizza. To be even more efficient, you don't use a pan, and instead you bake directly on hot stone (like NY style). (The pan in my profile pic is merely a serving tray.)

EDIT: If anyone reading this may be in the market for a pizza stone, here are some very useful tips:
  1. Don't even consider paying anywhere near $100 (or even $10) for a 1/4" pizza stone. I find 1/2" ideal for baking at home, and 1/4" WILL break; possibly the first time you use it. (Before I really knew my shit, I went through at least three 1/4" stones.)
  2. Don't even consider buying a stone which the manufacturer recommends never using at temperatures above 450°. Pizza stones really aren't even useful until they're above 450°, and a quality stone will be able to handle any pizza baking temperature easily without breaking (1000°F or more). If you buy a pizza stone with such a temperature warning, it will break (because it's worthless). Consequently, I think it's freaking hilarious that people keep buying them, even though there are countless reviews from people who say their very expensive/worthless 1/4" PAMPERED CHEF stone broke. (I haven't been able to find the Amazon listing yet for the stone I'm thinking of. Might be this one: http://www.amazon.com/The-Pampered-Chef-Large-Handles/dp/B0012UKXCC. If so, I'm pretty sure this thing used to be priced at $90. Worthless.)
I've had two of these stones (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000...izza+stone&dpPl=1&dpID=41JEJM7BVWL&ref=plSrch) for years, and they don't break.

First thing I do when I'm thinking about buying something I don't know much about is read the negative reviews. Sometimes they tell you everything you need to know. And sometimes you read the reviews because you already knew there would be a ton of these horrible reviews, even though you've never used the product. It's funny for me to read what people say in these reviews, partly because most of the reviewers obviously have no idea what a pizza stone even does, yet so many of them act like they know a lot. No, if you knew anything, you wouldn't have bought it.
 
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Bravesst

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@Aimless Ryan
I'm sure the Aromed is doing the same thing, just IN the vaporizer (but it makes it work harder and not as well). I think a warm oven might be overkill, but would work. I think black absorbs heat better, and the fact that's it is cast iron helps, but in this situation, you could leave in an open Cvault and get same results (SS). I don't know about the pizza thing, but here, most of the drying is coming from above.

I just checked cast iron pan, still warm to the touch, but way before burning you. I removed solid buds, and the surface of herb now is shredded and spread evenly across the bottom of pan. Tends to dry out faster if spread thin.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

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@OF, I understood that the action of decarboxylation process (turning THCA to THC) was achieved by time and proper storage of the material or by heat, speeding up the drying process.

I know that I have read somewhere that you can decarb cannabis in a food dehydrator.
Very small amounts. Also happens with alcohol. It really doesn't seem to matter as the acidic forms are non psychoactive, and decarbing only really matters when you intend to eat it, or if you have a transdermal patch system. Heat from a vaporizer or lighter or nail will remove the COOH group and become active before it makes it to your mouth.
 

OF

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Very small amounts. Also happens with alcohol. It really doesn't seem to matter as the acidic forms are non psychoactive, and decarbing only really matters when you intend to eat it, or if you have a transdermal patch system. Heat from a vaporizer or lighter or nail will remove the COOH group and become active before it makes it to your mouth.

Exactly so for making vapor. The key is the last sentence from the Q man, 'it's goona be right before it makes it to your lungs.......least as I understand stuff.

The idea is to get the water out of the way before it hits the vape?

OF
 

sickmanfraud

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Exactly so for making vapor. The key is the last sentence from the Q man, 'it's goona be right before it makes it to your lungs.......least as I understand stuff.

The idea is to get the water out of the way before it hits the vape?

OF

@OF did you see post 6414?
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
@OF did you see post 6414?
Refer to my last post. The temperature at which the decarboxylation process occurs is at least 50-70 degrees Fahrenheit lower than the temperature at which THC will vaporize. By the time THC is vaporizing, it's already been exposed to a temperature that has decarbed it. Again, in the application of inhaling cannabinoids, it doesn't matter in my opinion. Natural decarbing will not harm terpenes, decarbing via heat (like in an oven) will. The only thing I think that would be relevant to vaporizing and decarbed products is the fact that I've seen syringes of CO2 concentrate in dispensaries that are fully activated, that is the product has been decarbed. It doesn't taste as nice as the non-activated stuff, but on the upside you can eat this activated CO2 oil and get effects. The only reason it's possible is because it's decarbed. I've never been not-high from that decarbed oil when vaping it. We're getting a little off-topic here, feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this further.
 

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
The Aromed lightbulb may do the trick (dry my herbs), at least for now. I thought the bulb might shut off or dim after a couple minutes, once it reached temperature, but it has now been on for probably 15 minutes. I guess it's staying on because the lightbulb is not in the herb holder, where heat would be trapped. Consequently, the sensor never has a reason to shut off the bulb.

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Since I'm going to leave this how it is for at least a little bit, it will be interesting for me to see if I notice a detectable difference between my current load and my next load.

EDIT: I think I'm going to move the herbs to a seasoned (dark) pizza pan, to see if the pan absorbs more heat than this grinder, which has absorbed very little heat.

EDIT: I moved the herbs to a seasoned 6" deep dish pan.

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EDIT: I just remembered I have a large 2-piece titanium Space Case. That might work even better than the pan.

EDIT: Another common tool for pizza geeks is infrared laser thermometers. Mine says the area of the deep dish pan nearest the lightbulb is about 85°F right now. (This is after I raised the lightbulb an inch or two.)

EDIT: After lowering the lightbulb again, the temperature is around 95°F.

EDIT: The inside sides of the pan are 86°F. (The room temperature right now is 74.)

EDIT: This pan might actually replace the rolling trays I use to keep from losing dropped herbs, which require considerably more space.
 
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Bravesst

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I have to mention this, and I don't get the science behind it, but with all of this drying stuff going, and sessions improving, today, I was major drop on performance. I had been using nugget method prior (small nugget in, stir later) to drying, and today I dropped in a couple of big buds (take a peek at pic above) and dried with the shredded herb. With this new red bulb, even though I kept drying time short, it somehow effected my sessions negatively. I broke off a small nugget form a dried bud (see pic above), broke up a bit, put in the stem whole, it vaped / is vaping amazingly. I have a few strains with giant buds I may experiment. There is no need to grind at all, as the dried bud will break apart pretty easily. Taste is quite nice as well.

Just when you think you have it all figured out, time to adjust once again. Now with this more powerful bulb, I need to dry buds for 10 minutes. Grinding is unnecessary as the bud will crumble (I have to work at getting it in the stem in relatively one piece). Blasphemy I know, but it worked amazingly.

Could it be there is more a drying from the inside out with the "infrared" bulb? That might sound ludicrous, but I'm trying to figure why a nugget is delivering better.

EDIT - I'm in one of those sessions that you have once in a while, where you can believe how long it's lasting, how good it tastes, how big clouds are, how high you are.... NICE

Love the presentation
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

This was after working out in the yard the other day. I'm using the shorty PVHE stem. Taking a break at the back patio. I don't mean to advertise GV. That is a free grinder that I received about 4 years ago. I had bought a Vapir No 1, a pretty good grinder.

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The tomato a bountiful harvest from our garden. Many tomatoes this year.
 
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NuhJokaSmoka

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Was bored a bit last weekend and i decided to design a stand for my AA. I spend about 15 minutes for the design. It has become more a desktop station, than a stand. :) The station has space for the AA of course, four stems, the stir tool and a small space for the caps, screens and other stuff. I don't really need this, but i think it looks cool. Now i can change the room without searching for any parts or having everything loose in a bag or box.

Here is a rendering of my station.
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At the moment it is printed in the 3D printer. The color will be black.
maybe i'm going to upgrade this station with some space for loaded batteries and containers for herbs and ABV.
i'll show off the real pics, when the station has arrived.
 

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Yesterday the little lid thingy on the top of my AA broke off. I have never had any need for the lid, but I have also only used the AA at home. I would imagine pretty much everybody breaks this piece, and that it has no real purpose.

Is there any reason I might ever need to replace this thing?
 

OF

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Is there any reason I might ever need to replace this thing?

Formal Inspections.

You might want to hang on to it.......

I suspect most of us lose it. Sucker is even more a PITA on Air than Solo (where at least it doesn't stick over the edge when a stem in installed).

For my money, the same guy that put the 'aroma therapy dish' in Solo is responsible?

OF
 

NuhJokaSmoka

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@Bravesst
This prototype doesn't come with any space for batts. I'm planning to do an upgrade with the space for two batts and space for herb and abv container. But at first i have to find tiny containers which will fit in my station.
 

Bravesst

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@NuhJokaSmoka

Even just one battery spot would be cool. I like to grab my AA, not check the current battery if I'm in a rush, and just grab an extra battery or two, so I know I've got 5 or 6 stems full if I need it.

There are some great SS, glass containers out there. I'm a nut for this stuff. Think ACE hardware, HomeGoods, Amazon. SS, glass, wood, options are endless. I've got just about every shape and size little container there is. My wife thinks I'm crazy.... :science:

Wish I had your talent and could design/build a stand like that!

@OF - yeah, my first AA from the LHS, was a "floor model", cap was already lost.
I HATE THE CAP, just kinda in the way. Not bad on Solo, but on Air, it's relatively useless.
 

OF

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So, a while back, there was a useful discussion of the advantages of drying and some lively experimenting with techniques.

I still love the mini cast Iron pan, and don't mean to slight that effort, but it occurs to me that a desk top coffee warmer might be just the ticket, for instance:
http://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Coffe...=1440614270&sr=8-6&keywords=coffee+cup+warmer

For a bit more you can get one complete with Mickey Mouse cup. If you get busted, blame Walt Disney:
http://www.amazon.com/Disney-DMP-16...=1440614270&sr=8-3&keywords=coffee+cup+warmer

They run about 17 Watts, a bit of experimenting should get you to the 'right' temperature (insulate to raise, vent to lower). There's even a USB powered option, but it's about 1/3 the power.......should still work fine?
http://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Heate...=1440614270&sr=8-9&keywords=coffee+cup+warmer

Thinking out loud. For now, my router works fine......I've got it 'dialed in' I guess.

Regards to all.

OF
 
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