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DDave Mod, New DDave Mini Mod & Kit for Arizer EQ/VTower Vapes

fubar

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I'm a happy new mod kit owner and can confirm that the modified glassware makes my extreme q much more flexible and useful for me.
I've posted in that forum, so forgive me if you've already heard, but the new 18mm equivalent of the old elbow pack (my personal current fave) allows a small load (0.1g or so) to be fully extracted in few really satisfying old fashioned lung stretching rips.
I still use both air and solo when away from my desktop since they're also very efficient and I really value the portability - but you can't beat the power output of the extreme q to provide temperature stability during sustained high air flow through the load. Even beats my older solos with a PA - which is saying something if you know what I'm talking about. Only had the kit a couple of days, but can recommend it unreservedly if you're underwhelmed by performance with stock glassware - especially with smaller loads.
 
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DDave

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@fubar

Glad to see you're enjoying the kit! Thanks for your review!

You touched on a few of the session characteristics I was targeting with the mod... greatest extraction from least draws and variety. The later 14mm mod adds efficiency.

Don't know if you grind your herb and if you do, how finely, but you should try the 14mm setup with a really small nug or some nug chunks clipped off a nug. No grinding, just toss them in. The short 14mm will rip all the flavor off the nugs in the first draw. The taller 14mm will allow you to get a few lighter flavor blasts.

When flavor's gone, you can always grind or crumble your herb nugs and revape to finish off the extraction, but flavor will be gone on the remainder of the hits.
 
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fubar

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@fubar
Don't know if you grind your herb and if you do, how finely, but you should try the 14mm setup with a really small nug or some nug chunks clipped off a nug. No grinding, just toss them in. The short 14mm will rip all the flavor off the nugs in the first draw. The taller 14mm will allow you to get a few lighter flavor blasts.

The 14mm basket is probably a tiny bit on the small side for the kind of herb I usually get - but the 14mm modified (short) cyclone actually does work reasonably well with small loads although I usually end up packing the 18mm basket.

Herb properties probably have a lot to do with how well various techniques generate vapour and you legal state dwellers probably get better quality herb than we do. When I have high yield skunky indica dominant herb, it's easy to get lots of cloudy vapour whether I grind or not - but to maximise yield from mid grade material we usually get here, I think more surface => more rapid extraction - so a finer grind seems to yield better results with poorer material?

Which brings us to a slight tangent on grinding and packing - I'm (also) an espresso nut (fuck nescafe and fuck dunkin donuts!), and if you are passionate about drinking great espresso, you will take great care getting all the controllable variables right - the grind, tamp, temperature (my coffee machine is also heavily modified - a Rancilio Sylvia with an Auberins PID!) and so on. With the cup shaped screens, it seems to me that I can get very consistent extraction with the right grind/tamp ratio. Not sure how to explain but when you think about hot water under pressure hitting an artfully ground/tamped basket of freshly ground coffee to extract that foamy miracle in a cup we call espresso, there are obvious analogies with hot air hitting freshly ground herb to extract all that good stuff.

Any other espresso freaks out there care to comment?
 
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DDave

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The 14mm basket is probably a tiny bit on the small side for the kind of herb I usually get - but the 14mm modified (short) cyclone actually does work reasonably well with small loads although I usually end up packing the 18mm basket.

Herb properties probably have a lot to do with how well various techniques generate vapour and you legal state dwellers probably get better quality herb than we do. When I have high yield skunky indica dominant herb, it's easy to get lots of cloudy vapour whether I grind or not - but to maximise yield from mid grade material we usually get here, I think more surface => more rapid extraction - so a finer grind seems to yield better results with poorer material?

Which brings us to a slight tangent on grinding and packing - I'm (also) an espresso nut (fuck nescafe and fuck dunkin donuts!), and if you are passionate about drinking great espresso, you will take great care getting all the controllable variables right - the grind, tamp, temperature (my coffee machine is also heavily modified - a Rancilio Sylvia with an Auberins PID!) and so on. With the cup shaped screens, it seems to me that I can get very consistent extraction with the right grind/tamp ratio. Not sure how to explain but when you think about hot water under pressure hitting an artfully ground/tamped basket of freshly ground coffee to extract that foamy miracle in a cup we call espresso, there are obvious analogies with hot air hitting freshly ground herb to extract all that good stuff.

Any other espresso freaks out there care to comment?

I'm not an expresso drinker, but after that naration I am sure craving a cup! If I'm ever in Australia, mind if I drop by for a cup? (I'll handle the rounds of herbs, but will probably need some assistance locating a supply!)

And the herb - expresso anology is spot on! It's all about the method to the madness!
 

CuckFumbustion

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The 14mm basket is probably a tiny bit on the small side for the kind of herb I usually get - but the 14mm modified (short) cyclone actually does work reasonably well with small loads although I usually end up packing the 18mm basket.

Herb properties probably have a lot to do with how well various techniques generate vapour and you legal state dwellers probably get better quality herb than we do. When I have high yield skunky indica dominant herb, it's easy to get lots of cloudy vapour whether I grind or not - but to maximise yield from mid grade material we usually get here, I think more surface => more rapid extraction - so a finer grind seems to yield better results with poorer material?

Which brings us to a slight tangent on grinding and packing - I'm (also) an espresso nut (fuck nescafe and fuck dunkin donuts!), and if you are passionate about drinking great espresso, you will take great care getting all the controllable variables right - the grind, tamp, temperature (my coffee machine is also heavily modified - a Rancilio Sylvia with an Auberins PID!) and so on. With the cup shaped screens, it seems to me that I can get very consistent extraction with the right grind/tamp ratio. Not sure how to explain but when you think about hot water under pressure hitting an artfully ground/tamped basket of freshly ground coffee to extract that foamy miracle in a cup we call espresso, there are obvious analogies with hot air hitting freshly ground herb to extract all that good stuff.

Any other espresso freaks out there care to comment?
I'm a coffee freak. Have used a few professional espresso machines and tried to get the technique down. There is a genuine knack to it also. Roasting coffee is a whole realm of study unto itself. And I live in a town with over 4 coffee roasters, but I insist on ordering mine from a estate roaster. It's roasted just before shipped. So fresh, I can sometimes hear some of the beans crack. I also use a mill grinder and have it set to chip the beans more than say a medium grind. My coffee grounds look flinty. Then I use my french press for the extraction of the oils.
:p Yea, it's a passion of mine.

Hops is analogous to herbs to. But I forgot what the point of mentioning that was. But sticking to what I know. With the perfect espresso tamp and controlling the variables you described you get the extraction with the right controls over heat and pressure. The tamp is where the knack belongs. You want each particle to rest on the other grounds and not be squeezed. But to utilize the pressurized heated water to extract the oils from each ground. You don't want to press down the tamp when setting up, but rest it down.

To fit your analogy. I don't fully tamp or press with the EQ anymore. I hold the business end over the finer particles and inhale into the screen. 1 gentle tamp like I described earlier and it's the perfect 'tamp' setting for the EQ. I've mentioned before that I wouldn't mind being an EQ Barista.:drool:
 
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fubar

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being an EQ Barista.:drool:

Perhaps we can all become EQ baristas ?

On tamping coffee: if the grind is right, a very light tamp to even out any bumps in the surface is all that's needed - a nice solid puck of grounds forms after it's been hit hard by hot water at 8.5 bar. Trick is not to compress it to the point where the hot water is restricted from seeping freely through the entire mass of coffee - an over enthusiastic tamp can result in cracks and fissures when the water hits the coffee - channels form where the hot water breaks a path through and flows leaving large portions of the coffee powder dry and unextracted and delivering a dull, watery shot. This is all familiar to coffee freaks and I suspect some equivalent things might happen to crushed dried herb in the screen during a vape session when it's hit by 200C air?

My theory is that for any given grind (other than in the cyclone bowl) optimal extraction requires an optimal degree of tamping? I also load the wand by sucking herb into the basket - then usually a light finger tip tamp to stop it all falling out when it's hanging upside down.

Calling all potential EQ baristas!
There's going to be lots of fun to be had comparing the combined effects of different grinds and different tamping pressures on flavour and vapour production - go to it and let us know what you learn!
 
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CuckFumbustion

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Perhaps we can be EQ baristas ?
A bistro usually means food with optional coffee or alcohol here...

On tamping coffee: if the grind is right, a very light tamp to even out any bumps in the surface is all that's needed - a nice solid puck of grounds forms after it's been hit hard by 86C hot water at 8.5 bar. Trick is not to compress it to the point where the hot water is restricted from seeping freely through the entire mass of coffee - an over enthusiastic tamp can result in cracks and fissures when the water hits the coffee - channels form where the hot water breaks a path through and flows leaving large portions of the coffee powder dry and unextracted and delivering a dull, watery shot. This is all familiar to coffee freaks and I think something equivalent happens to crushed dried herb in the screen during a vape session when it's hit by 200C air?

My theory is that for any given grind (other than in the cyclone bowl) optimal extraction requires an optimal degree of tamping? Calling all EQ baristas - there's going to be lots of fun to be had comparing the effect of different grinds and different tamping pressures - go to it and let us know what you learn!
Couldn't edit bistro into Baristas in time. Better have another cup before editing then posting here. :haw: Totally with you about the perfect tamp and amount being more critical with lower
temps. This is why I'm exited about the 14mm in the kit. Less width means less of the channel problem like you described.:nod: I also try to incorporate the chimney heat effect before hitting the fan which is why I like the thick glass wand over an elbow. All part of my EQ-uation. :science:
 
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fubar

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Less width means less of the channel problem like you described.

Yes, and to some extent, vacuum loading is tamping too.
The extent and effects will depend on specifics like moisture, grind and vacuum...
Interesting.

tl;dr
If I stir during a session, I tend to empty the basket, crush any big bits and then vacuum# it up again.
Really finely powdered material sucked hard into a basket => restricted draw - that's hardly surprising - the powder particles get squeezed together by air pressure.
Compression leaves less room for air flow.
For the record, I usually seem to get relatively little active material from this procedure since a properly loaded eq, like the solo and air seems efficient enough not to need it. YMMV

# Warning. Loading the wand like this may briefly make you feel like an elephant sucking up a peanut with its trunk. This is most likely a consequence of vapour from the first part of the session.
 

CuckFumbustion

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Am I vacuum packing/loading when I inhale into the screen? like I mentioned earlier? :p I do take into account how close I'm holding the screen over materials and my draw strength.
Conversely, With a convection vape. Denser is better.

With the 14mm I might be using scissors instead of a grinder.

Another factor is the materials will curl with heat. Conversely again, In my PAX it will sometimes form bricks.:hmm:
I re-crush sometimes too. Other times with smaller amounts, I'll just bring the business end and the blunt end of the EQ stir tool together and give the wand a 1/4 turn and put it back in the EQ for the next session. Sometimes a little finesse is all that's needed.:nod:
 
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CuckFumbustion

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I believe so. Air acts like a fluid. Sucking/inhaling decreases pressure inside the tube. Air pressure outside the tube flows in to the other end to fix the imbalance dragging your bud with it.
I thought I was having a Eureka moment with my technique. Talk me thru this. If I'm not quite grok-ing you.
So we are clear on my pack technique. I'd take a wand with the screen inserted. Hold the wand over the materials-perhaps taking how close into account, Draw in the with the desired draw strength-much like a straw, light tamp with the EQ stir tool-just enough like a barista.:tup: Ready freddy.

To perhaps broaden your point:hmm:? 'Sipping' while using a conventional cyclone for instance, might be on the other side/end of the spectrum of the fluid properties of air/vapor and less relevant on air pressure. Old school 'lightbulb' vaping and non electronic vapes seem to focus on honing that skill for instance. Am I making a correlation here?

As far as dragging materials in with draw strength, I can perfect it to lift just the lighter particles into the wand. Why? because I haven't combust-ed (on purpose anyway:cuss:) for several months.

So how does the DDAVE kit fit into your EQ-uations? Hope I'm helping you with becoming your dream of being an FC EQ barista? Thanks for the discussion!
 
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fubar

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'Sipping' while using a conventional cyclone for instance, might be on the other side/end of the spectrum of the fluid properties of air/vapor and less relevant on air pressure. Old school 'lightbulb' vaping and non electronic vapes seem to focus on honing that skill for instance. Am I making a correlation here?

Ah, yes. The cyclone. I like the visuals, but I seem to get diluted vapour streams - maybe because we tend to have mid grade material here - so I tend to stick to the wand screen - hence the whole barista thing with a bud puck and all.

So how does the DDAVE kit fit into your EQ-uations?
I like it. Good solid gear. Plenty of options. Definitely ramps the EQ up a notch or two for me.
 

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
The 14mm basket is probably a tiny bit on the small side for the kind of herb I usually get - but the 14mm modified (short) cyclone actually does work reasonably well with small loads although I usually end up packing the 18mm basket.

Herb properties probably have a lot to do with how well various techniques generate vapour and you legal state dwellers probably get better quality herb than we do. When I have high yield skunky indica dominant herb, it's easy to get lots of cloudy vapour whether I grind or not - but to maximise yield from mid grade material we usually get here, I think more surface => more rapid extraction - so a finer grind seems to yield better results with poorer material?

Which brings us to a slight tangent on grinding and packing - I'm (also) an espresso nut (fuck nescafe and fuck dunkin donuts!), and if you are passionate about drinking great espresso, you will take great care getting all the controllable variables right - the grind, tamp, temperature (my coffee machine is also heavily modified - a Rancilio Sylvia with an Auberins PID!) and so on. With the cup shaped screens, it seems to me that I can get very consistent extraction with the right grind/tamp ratio. Not sure how to explain but when you think about hot water under pressure hitting an artfully ground/tamped basket of freshly ground coffee to extract that foamy miracle in a cup we call espresso, there are obvious analogies with hot air hitting freshly ground herb to extract all that good stuff.

Any other espresso freaks out there care to comment?
Reread our posts to refresh myself. This DDave kit has caused me to revisit some of your points about packing. :hmm: Plus I'd like to know more about if say climate is a factor for herb types on your spot on the globe? Is there a coffee climate? And do you have a favorite coffee bean/grind BTW?

Yes, and to some extent, vacuum loading is tamping too.
The extent and effects will depend on specifics like moisture, grind and vacuum...
Interesting.

tl;dr
If I stir during a session, I tend to empty the basket, crush any big bits and then vacuum# it up again.
Really finely powdered material sucked hard into a basket => restricted draw - that's hardly surprising - the powder particles get squeezed together by air pressure.
Compression leaves less room for air flow.
For the record, I usually seem to get relatively little active material from this procedure since a properly loaded eq, like the solo and air seems efficient enough not to need it. YMMV

# Warning. Loading the wand like this may briefly make you feel like an elephant sucking up a peanut with its trunk. This is most likely a consequence of vapour from the first part of the session.

This is where I would hit a wall often with revaping/re using ABV. Clog my baskets, screens. Conforms that problem. Thanks for the visual.
The round screens seem to work better with this problem and conversely why the 14mm 'tip' hats would be more prone to collect at the hat end.
I sometimes do think a good EQ mod/setup involves 'telescoping' in some form, from the widest opening in the adapter up to say the hole in the wand.
You mentioned how finer more powder like materials behave and that came in handy when checking out 14mm Tall bowl. I have had some success revaping with a bowl session.
Because the particles stack in that hat a little different. Plus the telescoping before entering a straight tube (the wand) helps the lesser vapor form a gas/gas effect.
:sherlock: I have been posting my first impressions in the EQ forum and trying to figure out where DDave made the changes. I actually had to rethink screens. well back on the case...
 
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Hi FC,

Happy Monday!

Due to the huge amount of incoming requests for "split kits", I've created three other listings on eBay. (The complete kit listing is on top for reference).

This should offer options for those looking for...
* The Complete Kit - featuring both 18mm & 14mm components.
* The 18mm Kit - Contains only 18mm components.
* The 14mm Kit - Contains only 14mm components.
* The DDave Adapter Kit - The DDave 18mm Short F/F adapter & 3 screens.

DDave Mod, New DDave Mini Mod & Kit for Arizer EQ/VTower Vapes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/121738123332?

The DDave Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747175304

The DDave Mini Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (14mm Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747178626

The DDave Adapter for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747188233

FC Discount Note:
Please note the $10 discount FC special pricing only applies to the Complete Kit which contains both 18mm & 14mm components. (The International Shipping discount applies to all DDave eBay listings!)

Vape On! :rockon:
DDave
 

DDave

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Have received a lot of inquiries and requests for instructions for the mod V2. So have decided to post them here... these instructions were written for the complete kit which contains both 14mm and 18mm components. (To those who ordered partial kits, only applicable parts of these instructions apply)

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DDave Mod & DDave Mini Mod Kit Instructions

Now including the "DDave Mini Mod" Adapter and Wand (for herb-conserving sessions)

Each Complete Kit includes:
The Original DDave Adapter - 18mm F/F that accommodates a screen. (Plus 3 screens).
An 18mm Clear Borosilicate glass wand + 3 tip basket SS screens
The DDave Mini Adapter - 14mm to 18mm F/F adapter that accommodates a screen. (Plus 3 screens).
An 14mm Clear Borosilicate glass wand + 3 tip basket SS screens
An 18mm & 14mm Tall DDave adapter. (for a limited time).
A test tube clamp - the perfect holder for a hot adapter!
Wood block adapter holder (for a limited time) - untreated, holds hot adapters, poker (not included)
& wand
Two Whip Tubes - 2.5 feet long each

Please note, these wands do not accommodate the internal screens you've seen described in the DDave Mod information online. This is a later update to the DDave Mod which was found to be an improvement over the previous release, as your product sits even closer to the heater than if housed inside the wand itself. See the below instructions for suggested operating methods.

Instructions:
There are two methods to using the new DDave Mod. Power and Smooth. Each are described below.

Power Session Mode: In this mode, you will pack the basket screen with your product, lightly tamping it down so it stays in place when you insert the wand into the DDave Adapter. This works with both the DDave Standard Adapter and DDave Mini Adapter. This method can be directly compared to the "Elbow Pack" method mentioned when using the Arizer Elbow and associated basket screen. For ease of loading, simply vacuum up the herb by drawing on the whip then tamp down when the basket screen is filled to desired level. Then insert in a preheated tower / DDave adapter and enjoy your session.

Smooth Session Mode: In this mode, you will use either the DDave Standard Adapter or the DDave Mini Adapter to hold your product. Ensure your product quantities are of volume so that the product moves freely within the adapter during an inhale. Load product directly into the DDave Adapter (either Standard or Mini) A slow draw will give you an lighter hit, which will be a bit more flavorful. You will also get more of these light hits per product load. If you hit it a bit heavier, you will obtain results a bit closer to the Power method above, as you will force your product to compress itself into the basked screen while drawing.

Tall Adapters: Included for lighter, more flavorful sessions. Herb will be approx same distance from heater as with stock Cyclone bowl, but without the wobbly center screen and without the center ring restricting airflow.

Don't forget to use the included Clamp to remove and/or hold any hot pieces of glass included in the kit during your session... loading or unloading product. Also, you can remove any of the DDave Adapters hot and place them directly into the wooden holder provided. Your furniture will be safe.. The wood will not burn. The clamp can be left in place during a session, even if clamped to a hot DDave Adapter, it does not become hot enough to burn. However, to avoid accidents, by bumping into the clamp and possibly knocking over your vaporizer, this is not advised.

There are four large holes drilled into the wooden holder. To accommodate the DDave Adapters included in your set.. Also accommodates a hot wand during your sessions, so you may temporarily store the hot-tipped wand while loading your adapters.. or you can allow you wand to cool so you can reload it's basket screen (if using Power Mode). There are also one small hole drilled into this adapter to house your poker or stirring tool.

Heat Disclaimer: During use of the DDave Mod, as with any heated vaporizer components or add-ons, care must be taken to avoid being burned! We all have different tolerances, to heat (and other things), so using personal best judgement is advised and properly warning guests of this would probably be appreciated as well. Glass gets hot!
 

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Please note, these wands do not accommodate the internal screens you've seen described in the DDave Mod information online. This is a later update to the DDave Mod which was found to be an improvement over the previous release, as your product sits even closer to the heater than if housed inside the wand itself.

Would you mind elaborating on this piece? I'm afraid I don't follow :(
 

DDave

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Would you mind elaborating on this piece? I'm afraid I don't follow :(
Absolutely. The original mod's purpose was to bring the herbs to be extracted from as close to the heater as possible. Using the SSV Wand with a double screen setup was defeating that purpose a bit by moving the herbs back farther away from the heater. It also made lung-bursting single hit extractions less possible.

There's an awesome video online showing this method in action. Once I find it again, I'll post the link.

The V2 Mod does away with the wand encapsulation, using only basket screens in the wand ground glass openings and herbs are loaded in "elbow pack" manner, now being referred to as a wand pack. Or if one prefers, they can load the F/F short adapters with herbs, then insert the wand. A decent/medium draw on the whip and the herbs will fly into the basket screen of the wand and lightly "wand pack" themselves.

I really missed that part of the combusting days, where I could run out to the garage, take a rip off a pipe and be good to go and get back to what I was doing. The short adapters and wand packs bring that capability back.

@CuckFumbustion has discovered the best of both worlds... Encapsulating herbs in two basket screens when inserted in the wand. Using the mod in that manner, you get encapsulated herbs while not moving your herbs any farther from the heater of the vape. I'm eagerly awaiting pics! (Hint Hint :brow:)
 

snackmaster

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Absolutely. The original mod's purpose was to bring the herbs to be extracted from as close to the heater as possible. Using the SSV Wand with a double screen setup was defeating that purpose a bit by moving the herbs back farther away from the heater. It also made lung-bursting single hit extractions less possible.

There's an awesome video online showing this method in action. Once I find it again, I'll post the link.

The V2 Mod does away with the wand encapsulation, using only basket screens in the wand ground glass openings and herbs are loaded in "elbow pack" manner, now being referred to as a wand pack. Or if one prefers, they can load the F/F short adapters with herbs, then insert the wand. A decent/medium draw on the whip and the herbs will fly into the basket screen of the wand and lightly "wand pack" themselves.

I really missed that part of the combusting days, where I could run out to the garage, take a rip off a pipe and be good to go and get back to what I was doing. The short adapters and wand packs bring that capability back.

@CuckFumbustion has discovered the best of both worlds... Encapsulating herbs in two basket screens when inserted in the wand. Using the mod in that manner, you get encapsulated herbs while not moving your herbs any farther from the heater of the vape. I'm eagerly awaiting pics! (Hint Hint :brow:)

Ah ok. I don't think I've ever seen double screens in the wand, but I think I get the picture. @CuckFumbustion's dual basket screen method sounds like a pretty good idea. I actually just watched a YouTube video where I thought that's what a guy was doing but he just used the second elbow to help pack the first one. Didn't leave them together.
 

CuckFumbustion

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@CuckFumbustion has discovered the best of both worlds... Encapsulating herbs in two basket screens when inserted in the wand. Using the mod in that manner, you get encapsulated herbs while not moving your herbs any farther from the heater of the vape. I'm eagerly awaiting pics! (Hint Hint :brow:)

Ah ok. I don't think I've ever seen double screens in the wand, but I think I get the picture. @CuckFumbustion's dual basket screen method sounds like a pretty good idea. I actually just watched a YouTube video where I thought that's what a guy was doing but he just used the second elbow to help pack the first one. Didn't leave them together.
I was talking about using double screens in the bowl. My F/F bowl has no center ring. Unlike the kit. There is no lip like the cyclone bowl. All smooth. So I came up with the screen within a screen trick. You might be talking about a wand screen and an elbow screen perhaps? Wand packs with the short DDave bowl and say an SSV
might what your describing. I just refereed to that as the 'old school' DDave method. That setup has it's problems. Yea that was abandoned for the 'open throat' approach.

@DDave, Pics? My problem/quandary is I don't have a mod for very long. Happens when you keep having to hit the reset.:bang: Also I have a somewhat modular approach with glass pieces and my homemade silicone adapters. :mental: As for the double screen method, You can try any basket screen within a basket screen with whatever wand setup you have. Just remember how to mushroom cap any that are worn. Haven't had the ones with the kit long enough to comment except that the new screens grip better and are a tight fit with the wand. The 14mm might have a few clog issues. But typically, the materials usually want to stay in on their own.

@DDave, took that principle that you are fond of and used it with your wand setup. Already had the center bowl screen bent in upward fashion. Then placed the 18mm wand with the short bowl to 'pin' my materials in place. Instead of 'packing' the bowl/screen. I did use the scissors on the materials instead of the SCS. :pInteresting flavor profile.
I imagine this must be what it is like to use a Silver surfer/Da Budda. Still wouldn't mind a thick wand with say a 16mm opening if I go custom.
 

DDave

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Hey FC,

Happy Wednesday! It is "hump day" after all... :brow:

Latest links below (complete kit link has changed).

DDave Mod, New DDave Mini Mod & Kit for Arizer EQ/VTower Vapes
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121755740518

DDave Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747175304

DDave Mini Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (14mm Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747178626

DDave Adapter for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121747188233

The FC Discount Remains!
FC Discount Note:
Please note the $10 discount FC special pricing only applies to the Complete Kit which contains both 18mm & 14mm components. (The International Shipping discount applies to all DDave Mod eBay listings!)

Vape On! :rockon:
DDave
 

DDave

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Updated Listings! Permanent price reduction on the full kit! :rockon:

eBay helped out with the International Shipping configuration... so now one listing to rule them all... (Well, maybe not all, but Domestic and International shipping is handled!)

DDave Mod, New DDave Mini Mod & Kit for Arizer EQ/VTower Vapes
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121761080644

DDave Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121761092117

DDave Mini Mod V2 for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (14mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121761091192

DDave Adapter for Arizer EQ and VTower Vaporizers - (18mm Only)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121761093376

Had to end old listings and create new ones to make the changes though! :doh:
 

DDave

Vape Wizard
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Stu

Maconheiro
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Well like someone else who I can't remember said
I found the quote....

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:peace:
 
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