High only once a day

Ricardo

Ricardo

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I'm really glad I opened this thread - it's clear I'm not the only one who has this issue. I recently got back from vacation and a 2 week T-break. I had a light session in the early afternoon and enjoyed a pleasant high but my plan to get super-stoned later in the evening just didn't work, despite using way more product and inhaling deeper and longer. I felt fine, mellow but not spaaaced :hmm:
 
Chezgreendream

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
In my experience, I only get really high the first time of the day. Then after that, as @Stu, had mentioned it is more of a maintenance of that high.

There are many good suggestions on this thread, switching between strains is one of them, though I, like you dont have the luxury that some people have here, of having different strains readily available, I have to settle for what is available at the time.

Recently, though I did notice that no matter whether it was the first session of the day, or the number 25 I was just not getting high enough. I read through some posts and saw something that I switched in my daily routine.

I usually buy my flowers by the ounce, out of convinience, I grounded up about a quater and kept it in a mason jar ready to be vaped. What noticed is that halfway after that grinded herb, the herb became stale and didnt have alot of flavor, since I dont vape that much.So I decided, to grind up fresh herb that was still intact from the original ounce.

I found the taste amazing, something that I had been lacking since the beginning of the qauter that was grounded up and I noticed the fresh herb was still sticky and smelled pretty good, since I had stashed it in even a bigger mason jar. So nowadays, I only, grind up the bud I will use in each session.

Now, the interesting thing I saw in one of the posts on this forum. I forget who or where I saw it, but they mentioned that they store their herb in different mason jars and in the dark. The biggest stash stays in the jar that is hardly opened, then it goes to lesser jars. This way, a single jar is never opened repeadelty, detering oxygen and light from breaking down the goodies in your bud.

Also I have learned to enhance my highs by drinking a beer or two, or vaping and eating an edible afterwards. The latter, makes for some lazy days, so I only mix it that way when I have absolutely nothing to do but rest, I do however get alot of restful sleep from it, though I mostly feel like edibles make me almost zombie status sometimes, so I rather do it when I am home alone.Hope this helps.
 
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Ricardo

Ricardo

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@chezsgreendream - There's a lot to what you say, I'd agree that fresh from the bud must be better but that doesn't change the fact that the first blast of the ready-ground hits the spot (right this minute :peace:) and I know that twice or three times as much later in the day won't get me this buzzed:leaf:
 
Ricardo,
vapirtoo

vapirtoo

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Hey folks,
I'll vape a bowl or two and sit around for a while thinking that this herb has become weak.
Then I go to the store, walking, and realize I'm stoned to all hell and can barely handle the store experience !
Take a walk or just go outside and check your head in different surroundings.
For me being outside enhances the high.
 
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Reliable ShotZ

Active Member
I think the trick is to maintain the high rather than letting it ware off, I think the groggyness from the previous session can over ride the next. I suffer from this problem too but due to my low tolerance I just make sure I have more but its still never the same as the first. Its a similar feeling to getting high when youve only had 4 hours sleep, its not enjoyable and just makes you feel more groggy.
 
Reliable ShotZ,
Chezgreendream

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
vapirtoo said:
Hey folks,
I'll vape a bowl or two and sit around for a while thinking that this herb has become weak.
Then I go to the store, walking, and realize I'm stoned to all hell and can barely handle the store experience !
Take a walk or just go outside and check your head in different surroundings.
For me being outside enhances the high.
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This is true indeed. Sometimes when you get used to your surroundings everything becomes so familiar, you dont even see things anymore.

I remember back in my ealier smoking years, a couple of buddies and I did not have a place to smoke our weed, so we smoked it in the street.

Just from the Adrenaline alone; I was high before we sparked it.....The adrenaline running through my veinS because it had and it still has stigma tied to it, will the cops see me? Will people that know me see me? Even worse.....Will my mom see me??

Then when everything was said and done, we went merily on our way. Sometimes so blasted I couldnt even talk. I used to find it difficult to function in the outside world, but that was the fun of it, trying to walk the line and balance, while trying to maintain your frame of mind.

There so much more outside stimulating your senses and its even more noticeable when your high.

Then again, theres were times where I sat in a very familiar surrounding, like my couch and the joint hit me up like....POW!
 
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Hubs88

Hubs88

Feeling The Buzz
On the weekends (like today) I like to start the day with a spoonful of ABV followed with my first vape session a few hours later. I keep the buzz going with more vaping all day until I need to get some sleep after about 12 hours of chillin'. It's a rough life but I do my best.

My parents treat me rough
With all the marijuana
They won't give me a puff
"Gee, Officer Krupke!" - West Side Story
 
Chezgreendream

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
Hubs88 said:
On the weekends (like today) I like to start the day with a spoonful of ABV followed with my first vape session a few hours later. I keep the buzz going with more vaping all day until I need to get some sleep after about 12 hours of chillin'. It's a rough life but I do my best.

My parents treat me rough
With all the marijuana
They won't give me a puff
"Gee, Officer Krupke!" - West Side Story
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This abv..... do you just eat the abv or do you mix it with something?
 
Chezgreendream,
Hubs88

Hubs88

Feeling The Buzz
Chezgreendream said:
This abv..... do you just eat the abv or do you mix it with something?
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I take a spoonful and hold it in my mouth until it's a little moist then just swallow without any chewing, I'll drink something to wash it down. I can't be bothered with trying to make a tasty treat out of something that has very little flavor. It also comes on faster with an empty stomach.
 
Madcap79

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Hubs88 said:
I take a spoonful and hold it in my mouth until it's a little moist then just swallow without any chewing, I'll drink something to wash it down. I can't be bothered with trying to make a tasty treat out of something that has very little flavor. It also comes on faster with an empty stomach.
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I usually do the same thing. If I'm feeling frisky, I'll put it on peanut butter toast.
 
Herb-nerd

Herb-nerd

7th Floor: Engineer & Designer
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Another thing to bear in mind is the relatively infinite complexity of the confounding variables when it comes to our perceptions and understanding of the neuro-chemical process following exogenous cannabinoid modulation.

For example, dopamine response and sensitisations plays massively into the effects of cannabis - and many more substances.
In a study, heavy cannabis users (2oz a month) required an increased dose of methylphenidate for equal symptom control in ADHD (if i recall the context of the study correctly). Thus indicating dopamine down-regulation (or dulled response through many possibly mechanisms).

Another study that will show the staggering complexity of drug effects is that which compares morphine tolerance and response in familiar and unfamiliar settings respectively.
In this study one mouse was administered saline and the other morphine daily, a test is performed to quantify the pain threshold of both the control and opiate injected mouse.
After time the opiate injected mouse's pain threshold fell to that of the control subject indicating a tolerance to morphine and its analgesic effects.

It is at this point they remove the mouse from their familiar settings and repeat the daily routine - however the lighting, temperature, texture and material of the surroundings were changed.
It was found that the pain threshold of the opiate-injected mouse jumped right back up to the same level as first time opiate administration.

This could explain why heroin addicts seem to overdose out of no-where - it seems the mind has a way of preparing the body for processing of a substance based on situational cues. Simply taking a person out of their realms of familiarity can completely alter the effects of a drug.

This is why i ALWAYS get higher when i should be sober, like before a class or meeting an ignorant family member :p

I do agree, getting high in the morning will mean you will get less high in the evening.
Though i would outright refute that how high you get first in the day imposes a limit until you sleep and awake once more.
I regularly consume a small amount in the morning and then the same amount in the evening, sometimes i don't get as high - sometimes i do.
I notice that a day of novelty and physicality will make me much higher than my morning smoke even with the same quantity.

Shit is way to complex to pretend any of us know the answer haha, even the most revered academic and expert in the field is a long-shot from a holistic understanding of the situ.
 
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Ricardo

Ricardo

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Yeah, I did a wake and bake too :peace: Coming to the end of vacation time and can't figure out how to fit work back in to my life :\
 
Ricardo,
Chezgreendream

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
Maybe you can leave the wake and bake to celebrate the new day on your days off and when working, vape in the evening/nights to help you go to sleep.

Thats what I do.
 
Quetzalcoatl

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Herb-nerd said:
Another thing to bear in mind is the relatively infinite complexity of the confounding variables when it comes to our perceptions and understanding of the neuro-chemical process following exogenous cannabinoid modulation.

For example, dopamine response and sensitisations plays massively into the effects of cannabis - and many more substances.
In a study, heavy cannabis users (2oz a month) required an increased dose of methylphenidate for equal symptom control in ADHD (if i recall the context of the study correctly). Thus indicating dopamine down-regulation (or dulled response through many possibly mechanisms).

Another study that will show the staggering complexity of drug effects is that which compares morphine tolerance and response in familiar and unfamiliar settings respectively.
In this study one mouse was administered saline and the other morphine daily, a test is performed to quantify the pain threshold of both the control and opiate injected mouse.
After time the opiate injected mouse's pain threshold fell to that of the control subject indicating a tolerance to morphine and its analgesic effects.

It is at this point they remove the mouse from their familiar settings and repeat the daily routine - however the lighting, temperature, texture and material of the surroundings were changed.
It was found that the pain threshold of the opiate-injected mouse jumped right back up to the same level as first time opiate administration.

This could explain why heroin addicts seem to overdose out of no-where - it seems the mind has a way of preparing the body for processing of a substance based on situational cues. Simply taking a person out of their realms of familiarity can completely alter the effects of a drug.

This is why i ALWAYS get higher when i should be sober, like before a class or meeting an ignorant family member :p

I do agree, getting high in the morning will mean you will get less high in the evening.
Though i would outright refute that how high you get first in the day imposes a limit until you sleep and awake once more.
I regularly consume a small amount in the morning and then the same amount in the evening, sometimes i don't get as high - sometimes i do.
I notice that a day of novelty and physicality will make me much higher than my morning smoke even with the same quantity.

Shit is way to complex to pretend any of us know the answer haha, even the most revered academic and expert in the field is a long-shot from a holistic understanding of the situ.
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Seems like I had this thought 7 hours late ;) Was about to make a post regarding @shredder's post on the first page, specifically the "Sometimes she realizes she is stoned when she tries to do something." part. This effect is also called "learned tolerance" and doesn't only have an effect with cannabis and opiates but with alcohol as well. I've definitely felt differences in effects when I vaped at home at my desk vs the same amount while out hiking on a trail. Your mind gets "used" to and expects certain effects in situations that happen consistently after so long. Sometimes even just vaping inside the house vs outside is enough.

Also agree with everything else, strains and cannabinoid/terpene profiles and vape signatures play a role in tolerance. Different effects from conduction vs convection. I also only really get high high once or twice a day depending on how much I vape that day. Usually the first time (assuming I only use one vaporizer and the same material), I'll really feel it the first time. The second time about 75%, third time about the same or a bit less. I use it for its medical properties, pain control and anti-inflammatory as well as anti-emetic effects, so sometimes I vape more than three times a day. I find that if I can wait at least 4 hours, preferably 6, between vaping I get the most out of it. I get diminishing returns a lot faster with a tolerance than I do without, and like others have said some strains seem to get it faster than others, and some strains don't really have it. I also get the same thing with concentrates, but at least with concentrates it's much easier to take a bigger amount. If I start with flower in the morning and use concentrates in the evening I get more effects throughout the day. Recreational for me usually ends up being sativas, or big dabs/loads of hybrid indicas, so that helps with effects and tolerance, and like others I like to wait if I can. Edibles are nice too but they can also mess with tolerance, if you eat them a lot you constantly have them on your receptors longer than with vaping. That's not a bad thing if that's what you want/need though.
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I also only mix concentrates at night and I use cannabis for pain and inflammation. I like to mix the concentrate with my herb. Some days I use my vaporizer more than other days. I use several different strains and use my Nano and a couple of portables.

I use a bubbler some evenings before bed so I can use the higher temperatures. At night I sometimes use edibles to help with sleep and pain.

It depends on what mission that you are trying to achieve. Do you want to get stoned for fun or do you want your pain to go away?
 
GetLeft

GetLeft

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When I vape three times in a day, I get buzzed three times in a day.
Did three separate hits yesterday, probably 2 to 3 hrs. apart each.
Each highly enjoyable and highly noticeable.
After the first, though, I admit to a) leaving my debit card in the atm (back just in time to grab it before it got swallowed) b) missing a turn that I shouldn't have missed while driving someone somewhere, and c) being very confused by the very fast speaking attendant at the mcdonalds window. (NB. The food wasn't for me.)
 
HellsWindStaff

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
I have to quit this week, was going to today but I woke up last night and couldn't sleep after a long weekend, but I haven't since then....may have one before bed though.
 
HellsWindStaff,
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justcametomind

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Hubs88 said:
On the weekends (like today) I like to start the day with a spoonful of ABV followed with my first vape session a few hours later. I keep the buzz going with more vaping all day until I need to get some sleep after about 12 hours of chillin'. It's a rough life but I do my best.

My parents treat me rough
With all the marijuana
They won't give me a puff
"Gee, Officer Krupke!" - West Side Story
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You get high once a day, for the whole day! ;)
 
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