Alfa Vaporizer by goboof

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Jack Sprat said:
The folks from Goboof are some of the same people who started Iolite. They do in fact have a history in the industry.

As for the Chinese version, you'll notice that the charging port is different from the Alfa, as is the screw on the side. Clearly it's not the same device. China is famous for copying products and lying about their origins.

I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that Goboof is not being truthful, but plenty over the years not to trust dodgy Chinese suppliers claiming to sell factory direct or whatever.
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yes the dhgate device is different. But the one SLB tech is offering is the same exact device, same charging post. Also, goboof is generally run by one person, Ciaran, he may have used to work with the Iolite people, but not anymore. I agree, previous to this, I had nothing to lead me to suspicion, but there's so much evidence stacked against goboof in my opinion. Maybe if goboof responds already..but hopefully you're right. How would you explain the lack of goboof's manufacturing facility though?
 
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What evidence? The claims of some unknown Chinese seller?

You seem to understand that the DHgate one is a fake, why would you think that the other one, coming out of China at the exact same time as the fake one is real? Also, the photo I saw of the one you are claiming is real had a micro USB port to charge it. The Alfa has a barrel connector.

As for Goboof's internal workings, it's bizarre that you expect a company to post photos of their facilities. Occasionally companies do, but it's far from common, and certainly not something that they are obliged to do.

I have yet to see any 'we are the OEM manufacturer for a western company! ' deals out of China be original products, in any industry. It just doesn't happen, although lots of counterfeits do flood the market to appeal to uninformed consumers looking for a 'deal'.

EDIT: You are claiming that the 'Ninja' brand Alfa copy that DhGate sells is different from the 'Ninja' brand Alfa copy that SLB sells? Seriously? They are both the same copy of an Alfa in my opinion, and have nothing to do with the original, regardless of whatever sweet song SLB is telling you.

As for the photo on DHgate showing the Alfa logo, it was lifted from a review video.
 
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If this is true and Goboof did in fact out source to having these made by this chinese company it would be really upsetting news as they mislead us and stated these were made in Dublan , Ireland. Now i do see the usb on the actual device in question and for me , every vape i have owned , well almost all have had that usb port fail on me in some way. I am happy with my Alfa , it works well , feels like its made of decently high quality and would b e pretty upset to see the $20 version being the same thing.
 
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Is there anything to actually lead you to believe that it wasn't made in Ireland? Anything at all? All this totally unfounded speculation is doing nothing but harm to Goboof as people searching for information on the Alfa could come across this thread and actually believe these totally unfounded rumours based on pure speculation and dodgy Chinese sellers. All those cut rate Pax and Firefly vapes are real according to the sellers on Alibaba and the like...
 
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Hey guys.. Excuse the long post.

Long time lurker here. Made my way through so many wonderful threads, slowly reducing my potential picks but I post now to get confirmation :)

It all started with the Pax1, which I had tried down the coast on a surfing trip and I fell in love with the concept of a portable Vape. Naturally from there, I started to research and was surprised by how big this industry has become! I remember hitting a Volcano about 5 years ago but the desktop units wouldn't be practical/affordable for me so I thought nothing more of it.

Iv only ever combusted and after many years I feel it's weight. I don't enjoy cigs, but smoke plenty tabacco because of how we mix it in to stretch our supply. This creates a double edged sword because of how much harder it becomes to take t-breaks when nicotine has been fused with the herbal/habitual experience. So in addittion to stopping combustion, Im cutting tabacco out!

I feel I have finally found a way to FC and evolve my consumtion:)

So getting back on Topic. Iv narrowed down my choices to this sleek Alfa or the beast that is the Crafty...(dam u S&B! I say Dam u!!)
I ask you good people because personally I can't decide but these 2vapes have ticked all/most the boxes and now it's a 1v1. Bare with-me if I mention something that has been dealt with. Finished the Alfa thread but 150pages into the crafty thread I started to droll and realised it was time !!

Ok so,

Is the Crafty worth the extra cash?
Crafty : R4000 vs Alfa: R2600 (South African Rand)

Keeping it simple, I want to know if the Alfa can hold its own with regards to:
-Daily Vaping (solo)
-Vaping with friends (occasions)
-Effeciency with the herbs
-Small loads
-Design build and durability (latch oven lid vs twist oven )
-Vapour quality and quanity (would love to see big clouds)
-Cleaning
-Staying cool (Read the Alfa getting warm even when out in the snow. I live in a hot climate and outdoor Vaping would be great)

Most importantly, longevity. Now I know the warranties are both 2 years but On VapeStore SA, it says under the warranty for Crafty :: "The warranty is subject to the proper storage, transportation and use of the Crafty and does not include defects due to normal wear and tear or deterioration, including defects in batteries, screens and similar parts subjects to wear and tear."
I need my Vape to give me atleast 8-12months of service to be happy but I won't be able to afford sending these units overseas every time something goes wrong. It's crazy expensive but S&B mentioning the battery doesn't help my confidence. How are your batterys doing after 7+ months of use and what negitives have you noticed?

I would like to save the cash and with it buy a good supply/hydrotube(PP 14mm hydrotube is R950) for the Alfa but I reeeaally like the idea of reclaim and having a product that can step it up and really medicate the user without attachments. The ease of use also seems great on the Crafty, compared to a wierd lid and tiny mouth piece on the Alfa. I just love the look of that tiny thing tho, I would use it everywhere! Maybe that's another negitive factor to consider haha.

So to cut a long question short, I just want to know.. Can the Alfa do the job alright or is the Crafty just that more worth it for my first primary Vape that I want to rely on?
I seek out value but will always respect quality and am willing to pay the extra for that piece of mind. I can always pick up the Alfa Next year when they hopefully fix that oven(not crazy about that latch?)

Shoutout to all you members at FC, this community seems great.

Tagging afew peps that iv seen own both. Any advice or observations are appreciated. Want to make the choice in the next few days :D

Thanks everyone
@t-dub @Mike M @Volteric @pakalolo @vineetvel @Stu
 
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go with the alfa.

-it's smaller and discrete then the crafty
-it works very fine with little loads (you have to use the double screen sandwitch method for best results).
the crafty also work very fine with the liquid pad and small loads.
-the mouthpiece is better in the crafty
-the cloud production is also very very good (i tried many many times the crafty in amsterdam and the cloud are the same or slightly slightly better), with my low quality herb here in my country i have decent clouds even at low temperature (190C not so low :D) with 4-5 second puff...the crafty request longer puff for the same result (maybe is the pin in the chamber of the alfa the secret)
-the taste is good, but the crafty is better in this area (not so much anyway)
-the overall cooling (vapor, unity, mouthpiece) it's far better in the crafty, this is maybe the only noticeable flaw of the device, sometimes my unit\mouthpiece is very hot, not so much that you burn your lips, but uncomfortable.
-the battery is far better in the alfa, the crafty has 35-45 min of battery life depends on the temp that you use.
-the easy of use is subjective, i hate the app method for the temp control of the crafty...why i have to hold 2 device for a relaxant session? and the 1 minute shut-off of the crafty is a pain in the ass because it don't recognize the slow draw and you have to press the red button all the time if you are a sipper and not a strong drawer (sorry for my english:p)
but the crafty allows you to set any temperature you want and is more precise with the temp control.
-the loading method is easier in the crafty (great idea the load tool), but the alfa is not difficult at all.
-the vapor quality is better in the crafty but not a giant different.
-the efficiency is a strange question...maybe the crafty is better overall, but i hate the few minute session with a full pack...yes you have a super estraction but with 6-8 puff you're done and if you are an hard users like me, a session last a couple of minute...the alfa with a 3/4 load give to me 20+ puff, so with friends (or solo) a session last longer and it's more enjoyable (for me at least)
the effect are pretty similar, maybe the crafty punch a little better, but once again for me the difference is not that much...
-the cleaning it's pretty much at the same level but i prefer the alfa in this aspect.


i buyed a crafty in amsterdam and after 3-4 days of intense use, i decide to change it with an alfa for half the price...

this is my two cents, if the device cost the same i say take the crafy, but for half price the alfa is the real deal.


sorry for my terrible english, i'm italian.
 
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My Alfa just started doing the max heat setting regardless of where the dial is set. We shall see how the CS holds up. I really like the Alfa, and I hope to get a replacement.

Edit: Just used the livechat feature with Goboof. Quick response, will be shipping the device to Seattle for an autopsy/replacement. Definitely worth my money. I think this vape suits me better than the Hipvap due to its smaller size, smaller oven. I never use the auto features. Usually just a few puffs on Med. and then later finish up on "high"
 
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Hey guys.. Excuse the long post.

Long time lurker here. Made my way through so many wonderful threads, slowly reducing my potential picks but I post now to get confirmation :)

It all started with the Pax1, which I had tried down the coast on a surfing trip and I fell in love with the concept of a portable Vape. Naturally from there, I started to research and was surprised by how big this industry has become! I remember hitting a Volcano about 5 years ago but the desktop units wouldn't be practical/affordable for me so I thought nothing more of it.

Iv only ever combusted and after many years I feel it's weight. I don't enjoy cigs, but smoke plenty tabacco because of how we mix it in to stretch our supply. This creates a double edged sword because of how much harder it becomes to take t-breaks when nicotine has been fused with the herbal/habitual experience. So in addittion to stopping combustion, Im cutting tabacco out!

I feel I have finally found a way to FC and evolve my consumtion:)

So getting back on Topic. Iv narrowed down my choices to this sleek Alfa or the beast that is the Crafty...(dam u S&B! I say Dam u!!)
I ask you good people because personally I can't decide but these 2vapes have ticked all/most the boxes and now it's a 1v1. Bare with-me if I mention something that has been dealt with. Finished the Alfa thread but 150pages into the crafty thread I started to droll and realised it was time !!

Ok so,

Is the Crafty worth the extra cash?
Crafty : R4000 vs Alfa: R2600 (South African Rand)

Keeping it simple, I want to know if the Alfa can hold its own with regards to:
-Daily Vaping (solo)
-Vaping with friends (occasions)
-Effeciency with the herbs
-Small loads
-Design build and durability (latch oven lid vs twist oven )
-Vapour quality and quanity (would love to see big clouds)
-Cleaning
-Staying cool (Read the Alfa getting warm even when out in the snow. I live in a hot climate and outdoor Vaping would be great)

Most importantly, longevity. Now I know the warranties are both 2 years but On VapeStore SA, it says under the warranty for Crafty :: "The warranty is subject to the proper storage, transportation and use of the Crafty and does not include defects due to normal wear and tear or deterioration, including defects in batteries, screens and similar parts subjects to wear and tear."
I need my Vape to give me atleast 8-12months of service to be happy but I won't be able to afford sending these units overseas every time something goes wrong. It's crazy expensive but S&B mentioning the battery doesn't help my confidence. How are your batterys doing after 7+ months of use and what negitives have you noticed?

I would like to save the cash and with it buy a good supply/hydrotube(PP 14mm hydrotube is R950) for the Alfa but I reeeaally like the idea of reclaim and having a product that can step it up and really medicate the user without attachments. The ease of use also seems great on the Crafty, compared to a wierd lid and tiny mouth piece on the Alfa. I just love the look of that tiny thing tho, I would use it everywhere! Maybe that's another negitive factor to consider haha.

So to cut a long question short, I just want to know.. Can the Alfa do the job alright or is the Crafty just that more worth it for my first primary Vape that I want to rely on?
I seek out value but will always respect quality and am willing to pay the extra for that piece of mind. I can always pick up the Alfa Next year when they hopefully fix that oven(not crazy about that latch?)

Shoutout to all you members at FC, this community seems great.

Tagging afew peps that iv seen own both. Any advice or observations are appreciated. Want to make the choice in the next few days :D

Thanks everyone
@t-dub @Mike M @Volteric @pakalolo @vineetvel @Stu
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Hey! Not gonna lie, if you have the money, I'd go for the crafty. Either the crafty of the alfa should last you a few years, but the crafty is significantly better (imo) and cooler vapor. Gives you bigger and stronger vapor at lower temperatures. Is easier to pack and load. Works better for groups due to the larger bowl size, and work good for individual use due to it working well with small loads. The crafty will stay cooler and is easier to clean. However the alfa's battery life is 60 minutes (mine hasn't shown any signs of deterioration), and the crafty is 45. But, even though the crafty is less, it has a larger bowl. Also both are pretty discreet, and yeah I like the look of the alfa better, but that and the battery life are the only things better with the alfa, and the battery life is made up for. So the only real advantage the alfa has imo is size. If I had the money, I'd pick the crafty personally. Also sorry for the blatant advertising, but check out Reddit.com/r/vaporents, we have a ton of comparisons (even of these two vapes), and I'm a pretty active member there. Good luck!
 
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I own an Alfa but do not own a Crafty due to the cost and limited funds available for new toys. So a comparison is one I can not offer but I really do like the size of the Alfa, its different settings, ease of cleaning and filling. I know that according to many reviews the Crafty rates higher but not enough for me to lay down the extra cash…..maybe someday I'll procure the Crafty as it does look Cool and works very well to boot!!!
 
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If your gonna be taking your Vape on the go allot than hands down grab the Alfa for its size and better battery life. If it's mostly home use than crafty or even a desk top .
 
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Thanks everyone, this is great info!

At the moment im leaning towards the Crafty ...

-Main reason is the mention again of heat when using the Alfa. I know many peeps have zero issues but my overall feeling when reading the Alfa thread was that alot of members felt the need to pick up a hydrotube or the mflb glass/wooden stems, even tho both additions look very cool. Its just extra $$ :\

@Wolf46 Thanks, you bring up great points! I also really like the puff aspect of the Alfa and longer sessions, but maybe not all the time? You say you can finish a crafty bowl in afew minutes but can you also take it really chilled and enjoy short small draws but a longish session? Does any1 else notice that?
The app seems alright but its more the precise temp control that im interested in. Im thinking different herbs with different make ups will require their own temps. This sounds like an awsome skill to master :myday: Lastly, with regards to heating lower quality herbs, how do they both compare? I would think a full conduction oven would do a better job on the stubborn herbs? Iv just kinda assumed this whole time , that if im buying a prem vape device, that i would have to smoke ze cronic and hopefully save my wallet and lungs by smoking small amounts!!

@vineetvel
Im so keen to clean that Crafty chamber, iv never smoked reclaim or bho/dab? but its a massive reason i like this Crafty so much:rofl:. Someone posted a picture of like a 4 layer Cronic sandwich with oil in the middle, i nearly fainted:bowdown:
you mention cool vapor which is something that comes up alot but i have no personal experience. How big is the gap between their temps and is it something you notice with extended use of the Alfa? I didnt enjoy the temp of the Pax at all but i think it was a knock-off

Justpassedu said:
If your gonna be taking your Vape on the go allot than hands down grab the Alfa for its size and better battery life. If it's mostly home use than crafty or even a desk top .
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I would say that extra (extreme?) portability is not really needed now that i think of it. If im going for a hike, the Crafty can come along. If surfing, a well rolled skinny is always the way forward (easy to toss if needed, and i would hate to leave my Vape in the car!) If fishing , shit, that would be interesting
I can actually see myself getting carried away if i had such a tiny vape that can medicate well.
Thanks for this.

Edit: I realised after posting this message that im talking abit to much about the Crafty. Sorry mod.
 
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MoonMonk said:
Thanks everyone, this is great info!

At the moment im leaning towards the Crafty ...

-Main reason is the mention again of heat when using the Alfa. I know many peeps have zero issues but my overall feeling when reading the Alfa thread was that alot of members felt the need to pick up a hydrotube or the mflb glass/wooden stems, even tho both additions look very cool. Its just extra $$ :\

@Wolf46 Thanks, you bring up great points! I also really like the puff aspect of the Alfa and longer sessions, but maybe not all the time? You say you can finish a crafty bowl in afew minutes but can you also take it really chilled and enjoy short small draws but a longish session? Does any1 else notice that?
The app seems alright but its more the precise temp control that im interested in. Im thinking different herbs with different make ups will require their own temps. This sounds like an awsome skill to master :myday:

@vineetvel
Im so keen to clean that Crafty chamber bro, iv never smoked reclaim or bho/dab? but its a massive plus for the Crafty:rofl:. Someone posted a picture of like a 4 layer Cronic sandwich with oil in the middle, i nearly fainted:bowdown:



I would say that extra (extreme?) portability is not really needed now that i think of it. If im going for a hike, the Crafty can come along. If surfing, a well rolled skinny is always the way forward (easy to toss if needed, and i would hate to leave my Vape in the car!) If fishing , shit, that would be interesting
I can actually see myself getting carried away if i had such a tiny vape that can medicate well.
Thanks for this.
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Yeah, if you don't need something ultra-discreet and very portable, the crafty is the better choice imo. The alfa vapor does feel hot to me, not at low temp, but medium temp scratches your throat. Crafty vapor on the other hand works great at lower temps and has a cooling chamber, so its way smoother on your throat than any other portable i've tried. With the crafty, you can definitely stretch out your chamber to 20 minutes of vapor, maybe even more. Me and my buddy were vaping a half pack in the crafty for half an hour, we started at 340F, and moved up 5F whenever vapor started diminishing. True, the app isn't the best thing, but it works well, and actually, once you have two set temps, you really don't need the app. You can set your two favorite temps on the crafty, and thats all you'll need to get the most out of your herb.

And yeah, different herbs, require different temperatures. And yeah the reclaim dabs work really well on the concentrate pad or sandwiched in some bud. But remember that if you use the concentrate pad with concentrates, put a layer of bud underneath it. But overall, if your main concern is heat, crafty will suit you very well.
 
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Yeah, if you don't need something ultra-discreet and very portable, the crafty is the better choice imo. The alfa vapor does feel hot to me, not at low temp, but medium temp scratches your throat. Crafty vapor on the other hand works great at lower temps and has a cooling chamber, so its way smoother on your throat than any other portable i've tried. With the crafty, you can definitely stretch out your chamber to 20 minutes of vapor, maybe even more. Me and my buddy were vaping a half pack in the crafty for half an hour, we started at 340F, and moved up 5F whenever vapor started diminishing. True, the app isn't the best thing, but it works well, and actually, once you have two set temps, you really don't need the app. You can set your two favorite temps on the crafty, and thats all you'll need to get the most out of your herb.

And yeah, different herbs, require different temperatures. And yeah the reclaim dabs work really well on the concentrate pad or sandwiched in some bud. But remember that if you use the concentrate pad with concentrates, put a layer of bud underneath it. But overall, if your main concern is heat, crafty will suit you very well.
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Have you tried the Alfa with a stem before? I would imagine it would help but on par with the stock Crafty?

Also, does the Crafty's boost button always boost by that same amount or is it a single jump. So like when you were smoking with your bud, did you set the boost temp to 5, then just keep boosting by 5 all the way up to max? That sounds epic either way



-Sorry again for the crafty questions mod. I know this is probally thread rule breaking but i enjoyed this thread more tbh and would like to revolve the decision on one thread. Its just between these 2 vapes and its close:)
 
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Tha weed in my country is much better with convection vaporizer.
A full pack in my solo give me at least 20 puff, my dead inhalater xp like 30-40 minutes of vaping (i know its incredible).
With the conduction vape i have worst results, and i own an indica and an alfa, 2 very good vaporizer.

Vineetvel, how do you accomplish a 20 min session with the crafty? With a very full pack of premium herb from amsterdam i endure 7-8 minute with 8-10 long draw at best...

Closed ot, sorry mod.
 
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Have you tried the Alfa with a stem before? I would imagine it would help but on par with the stock Crafty?

Also, does the Crafty's boost button always boost by that same amount or is it a single jump. So like when you were smoking with your bud, did you set the boost temp to 5, then just keep boosting by 5 all the way up to max? That sounds epic either way



-Sorry again for the crafty questions mod. I know this is probally thread rule breaking but i enjoyed this thread more tbh and would like to revolve the decision on one thread. Its just between these 2 vapes and its close:)
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The alfa with a stem definitely works well, but the crafty at lower temperatures is still less hot and scratchy. And the crafty gives better results at lower temps compared the the alfa. The boost button basically acts as a second temperature, so the main temp can be set to 350F, and the boost temp to 380F. The boost does not increase the temp each time you click it, it just increases the temp to the set boost temp. We increased the 5F each time by using the app.

Wolf46 said:
Tha weed in my country is much better with convection vaporizer.
A full pack in my solo give me at least 20 puff, my dead inhalater xp like 30-40 minutes of vaping (i know its incredible).
With the conduction vape i have worst results, and i own an indica and an alfa, 2 very good vaporizer.

Vineetvel, how do you accomplish a 20 min session with the crafty? With a very full pack of premium herb from amsterdam i endure 7-8 minute at best with no more than 8-10 long puff...
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Low temperatures. Like starting at 330 or 340, and working my way up. I also have very good bud so that definitely helps. Also, the solo is only convection for the first couple hits until the stem heats up. We packed 0.3 grams into the crafty, started at low temp, and increased the temps on the app as vapor decreased. Gave us about 40-50 decent puffs, and about 20 minutes of vapor.
 
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This is not the right place to discuss of the crafty.
I answer to you in the right topic.
 
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I bought the alfa over the crafty because I don't have a smartphone, nor bluetooth, and was looking for the more discreet tool.
I've put the glass mouth adapter from my SSV in the alfa because it really tends to be hot for the lips.
Overall it's pretty amazing what this little black box is capable to do, very tasty vapor, easy draw (unlike the solo), easy to use and to clean.

I don't regret my choice, thank you all for the 52 pages, you've helped me a lot.

My next portable vape will be the mighty, but for the size, and the price, I'm pretty convinced the alfa is the best.
 
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I bought the alfa over the crafty because I don't have a smartphone, nor bluetooth, and was looking for the more discreet tool.
I've put the glass mouth adapter from my SSV in the alfa because it really tends to be hot for the lips.
Overall it's pretty amazing what this little black box is capable to do, very tasty vapor, easy draw (unlike the solo), easy to use and to clean.

I don't regret my choice, thank you all for the 52 pages, you've helped me a lot.

My next portable vape will be the mighty, but for the size, and the price, I'm pretty convinced the alfa is the best.
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Oh interesting. Could you share a picture of the glass mouthpiece in the alfa? Is it a snug fit?
 
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Alfa or the Airizer Air?

I want to buy a new vape, which one would you all pick. Don't care about the money, flavor is my #1 concern.

Thx in advance.
 
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