Custom Glass Ideas/Designs Thread

Hello everyone.
I have an idea for a piece..an idea is all tho sadly,..I have no drawing or sketches,..or prototype or what not...
But I figured I'd throw it out here and perhaps it could be done someday.
The piece would stand about 10".
...w/ a 4.5" base.
The body would however be "parfait" shape I guess I'd say..and quite slim to a flared out top with a stubby bent neck.
The wide base is for e nail tipping issues.
The perc would resemble a human heart,...as an incycler with the 4 chamber's veins running from the heart out of the body of the piece and back in as a 4 way recycler...if that's even possible.
..i think that would make for a killer piece.
Thsnks for your time.

I just got word that Steven is now working on the DP-mini, and the first prototype should be finished this week. The first production batch will be 50 pieces.

I know there's been talk regarding what's a good size for a diffusion pump piece. This piece should be about 220mm, or just under nine inches tall.

So the dp mini is taller than the regular?

I don't have an fc-710, but the dp-mini should be about the same height as a ccg or cmeng fab egg. The "mini" part of the name isn't a reference to size, but instead the aesthetic of the fc-mini, which the design of the dp-mini draws from.

If anyone has an fc-710 I'd be interested to know how tall it is- I wasn't able to find that information through forum search or on the product listing page.

shark sandwich said:

I don't have an fc-710, but the dp-mini should be about the same height as a ccg or cmeng fab egg. The "mini" part of the name isn't a reference to size, but instead the aesthetic of the fc-mini, which the design of the dp-mini draws from.

If anyone has an fc-710 I'd be interested to know how tall it is- I wasn't able to find that information through forum search or on the product listing page.

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It's about 6" to the top of the joint and 9" to the top of the mouthpiece.

How do you guys like the Fc-710 with flowers? Are the hits noticeably denser than with other pieces?

Thanks, Monsoon! That means the dp-mini should be roughly the same size. I'm excited to see what the first production sample will actually look like.

EverythingsHazy said:

How do you guys like the Fc-710 with flowers? Are the hits noticeably denser than with other pieces?

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Lol, just posted yesterday over on the cheap bubbler thread about this.

After hearing such good things about the FC-710 for dabbing, I decided to give it a shot for flowers (no concentrates for me). The small volume means you won't really get to milk a huge can (high water level). And it is loud as anything with the ball clinking around. But it does seem to work nicely with my E-Nano.

Flavor wise I can certainly agree it seems to really preserve the flavor of the hit. Although depending on what temperature you vape at, it might be too little diffusion. How much do you cough while vaping? If you cough often, you probably want something with more diffusion than the 710

Ratchett said:

Lol, just posted yesterday over on the cheap bubbler thread about this.

After hearing such good things about the FC-710 for dabbing, I decided to give it a shot for flowers (no concentrates for me). The small volume means you won't really get to milk a huge can (high water level). And it is loud as anything with the ball clinking around. But it does seem to work nicely with my E-Nano.

Flavor wise I can certainly agree it seems to really preserve the flavor of the hit. Although depending on what temperature you vape at, it might be too little diffusion. How much do you cough while vaping? If you cough often, you probably want something with more diffusion than the 710

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I find coughing occurs most in the first few hits of every session, and more so during the first session than anything else. It's never too bad tho. Even with dry stem hits. Sometimes it's nice to feel the hit in your lungs a bit more than you do with a lot of diffusion.

I already have a gb-186 and an fc-1000, so I have medium diffusion covered already. Thought the fc-710 might be a compromise between a water piece that will cool the hot vapor, and a dry stem for cloud density and flavor retention.

Cross post from the open source glass thread:

CrazyCannuck said:

Look what just popped up on Steven's YouTube, the Devastator clone:
Looks pretty good

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Anyone got any thoughts on how the devastator is coming along?
Especially as compared to this pic of the real deal:



I'm thinking:
Possibly move up 10mm more joint size (I can't tell exactly the joint size in the vid, but for example, if it's 40mm, make it 50mm.

And then add like 1-2 inches of height to the main can, and like 1/2 - 1 inch to the height of the A/C

Then add a brace under the main cans mouthpiece joint and it's golden Imo.

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And IMO the base should be at least as wide as the mouthpiece joint, though the current base also looks fine

Thoughts?

There are at least 3 or 4 ways to do the devastator that would make me happy. I think I am just gonna stay out of the way and let y'all figure it out. But hurry up, damnit!
I DO hope that the pieces will also be available separately.

shark sandwich said:

I'm trying to incorporate what people want with this design. I don't want to go with a dewaar because clearance issues limit the use of drop downs. Having the joint out front rather than on top allows a little bit more distance from the face when in use, and a clear view of the top of the can.

Here's the most recent version:

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That's a really interesting design. I would like to suggest two changes: A 18mm female joint instead of 14mm. I need a 18mm joint for my vape adapter - with a 14mm joint I would need 2 adapters. And maybe a dcycler style mouthpiece would be nice. I made a quick mockup:

luigii said:

That's a really interesting design. I would like to suggest two changes: A 18mm female joint instead of 14mm. I need a 18mm joint for my vape adapter - with a 14mm joint I would need 2 adapters. And maybe a dcycler style mouthpiece would be nice. I made a quick mockup:

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The design of the dp-mini is well reasoned and there's a lot of discussion about it on previous pages. The design couldn't please everyone, as everyone wants something slightly different, however the design was made to be sensible and offer something new.

The joint is 14mm because on a piece this size, an 18mm joint would be way too big. This design originally had the joint placed low on the can, but that was unpopular so it was moved to where it is now, but that allows for (and kind of banks on) a drop-down adapter being used. If this piece becomes available, I won't be using it without a drop down, as it's a pretty tall piece already. So if you need an 18mm female, a drop down can get you that, as well as a more ideal joint placement. Again, this piece was designed to be used with a drop down adapter.

The mouthpiece was placed on the side to get more distance back from the joint, as well as a good view of the can. If the same size mouthpiece were placed on top it would limit your view, not allowing you to watch function or vapor density through the top of the can. A top mounted mouthpiece also makes an already tall and narrow piece even taller, as well as moves your face an inch or more closer to the joint.

Please envision using this device with a drop down, and see if the original mouthpiece and joint don't make a lot more sense. I'm not trying to shoot down your ideas, just attempting to show that the dp-mini design may fit your needs as is.

It's been challenging working with Steven to produce this piece. While he offers numerous pieces with a matrix perc, it's been difficult to explain that people would also be interested in having the diffusion pump perc available in different designs. I would like to see the dp-mini made and sell a few- I think that will open the doors to getting more new pieces made that aren't exact copies of brand name pieces, and have percs other than the matrix.

I sent Steven a message a couple days ago to ask about the progress on this piece, and have not heard anything back. Last I heard they were building a prototype, followed by an initial batch of 50 pieces.

I like the pump perc, but I hate the high water levels they are all designed for.

Would shortening the end of the pump allow using lower water levels?

FlyingLow said:

I like the pump perc, but I hate the high water levels they are all designed for.

Would shortening the end of the pump allow using lower water levels?

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When designing the dp-mini I did try to figure out ways of making the perc shorter.

The vapor traveling through the up tube in bubbles is what causes the cooling and humidification in the pump perc. That means the length of the up tube determines the effectiveness of the perc, and shortening the tube in the existing design would make the perc less effective. There are two ways, I think, to get a similar effect with a more compact design.

First would be to coil the up-tube around the down-tube, so it spirals around. This would allow for more cooling in a shorter pump-style perc. I found an image on dhgate that shows this construction, only upside-down. Here it is:



If this coil were flipped, and a little ball chamber added to the (new) bottom end of the coil, it would be a wrapped pump like I describe. It would look better with tighter coiling and clear glass, but the only images I could find to approximate that are lab glass like this:





The second idea is to put a spiral (stovetop style) coiled tube in the base of a hollowfoot body. With this design the downtube is very short- from the joint into the hollowfoot; and the up tube is the flat spiral tube inside the hollow base- it would terminate upwards in the center into a very small can. Here is an image of the body style I envision, but the can could be much smaller:



And here's a glass coil, like what would go in the base, only it should be more tightly wound, and the center would be an open end pointing up:




I think Steven could pull off either of these designs, but the design process would be challenging. I started working with Steven on the dp-mini design over a month ago, it's an mix of elements Steven already manufactures and is familiar with, and it's still in progress.


Edit: I drew up some designs- this one using the first type of modified pump I described. It's based on the body of Stevens new bubble bottom matrix, but with an 18mm banger hanger in place of the dewaar.



The second design illustrates the second type of modified pump I described. This one is a ufo style piece usage-wise, with an 18mm Male mouthpiece connection and an 18mm female joint. It's not illustrated well, but the little ball chamber is still there- attached inline opposite the coil end, at the bottom of the downtube, which is connected vertically to form a "T".

shark sandwich said:

Edit: I drew up some designs- this one using the first type of modified pump I described. It's based on the body of Stevens new bubble bottom matrix, but with an 18mm banger hanger in place of the dewaar.

The second design illustrates the second type of modified pump I described. This one is a ufo style piece usage-wise, with an 18mm Male mouthpiece connection and an 18mm female joint. It's not illustrated well, but the little ball chamber is still there- attached inline opposite the coil end, at the bottom of the downtube, which is connected vertically to form a "T".

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1st one:
MOTHER OF GOD...
I can't describe how quickly the money would leave my wallet if that gets made...
Seriously, I want that NOW...

2nd one:
I am also intrigued
I think it would be a badass piece

Frederick McGuire said:

1st one:
MOTHER OF GOD...
I can't describe how quickly the money would leave my wallet if that gets made...
Seriously, I want that NOW...

2nd one:
I am also intrigued
I think it would be a badass piece

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That'll be 2 sold! Count me in!

Great sketch @shark sandwich, this FC-COILDP is SOLID! I think you have a winner on your hands!

We need this in our lives!

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Thanks for the feedback everyone! After seeing the positive response here I sent a message to Steven along with the sketches. In the message I the explained the concept and design of the dp-twist and dp-ufo (as I referred to them), relayed the enthusiasm for those designs on this forum, and asked if they could be made. I will post more information when I find out more.

Edit: Here are the updates!

The dp-mini prototype will be finished September 9th

Work on the dp-twist (the first design) prototype begins once the dp-mini is complete!

The dp-ufo wasn't comprehensible- I'll need to make more drawings, which I'll post here as well.

My only thought is the water level would be flush with the bottom of the joint?

Maybe the top of the stem needs to be a bit higher before dropping down to the joint? There is room in the top of the can for it.

Or just push the joint to the top of the can? Then its just one right angle turn in the stem rather than an S bend. Less places for reclaim to build up?

Edit: Forgot to mention that I love the design! Good work on the sketches too @shark sandwich.

You're right- the joint and the top of the perc could use more clearance. I'll definitely let Steven know, and will probably do a revision of the drawing.

I designed the dp-twist with the banger hanger so it can be used with a drop down. Larger dabbing pieces should accommodate drop downs, which are a popular way to protect the piece from thermal or shock stress, and to keep the piece clean of reclaim. A dewaar joint would limit the use of drop downs and obscure the view of the can, which may have a cool vortex effect with this perc. Jane asked what the end of the twist should be like. I explained cutting the coil tube at an angle, but not bending it out of shape, just cutting at the right point it so it points away from the mouthpiece.

I will tell Steven the coil should be cut so it terminates an inch below the joint.

Edit: Here are additional drawings I provided to Steven/Jane. The first is the revised twist with the perc cut lower. Second is a top down view to complement the side view I did earlier. The third is a side view of a ball chamber that has been modified for horizontal use.

DP-Twist looks very promising.
Posting here so I don't forget about this thread.

Thank you gentlemen.

I. FEEL. GAS!!!

What sizes were you thinking for these?

The dp-mini will be about 8.75 inches tall.

The dp-twist uses the body of the fc-201 and should be the same size- 8.75 inches tall with ~5 inch tall can.

I had no idea about the dp-ufo so I just did the calculations, it should be 8 inches across and 5 inches tall without a mouthpiece attached.