Discontinued The Grasshopper
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Mr. Me2
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Agreed. Others have posted great looking cigar cases that seem to work too.
Good morning, thanks for the kind words my friend, I wouldn't say I am anywhere the best at anything, feel I just get lucky is all! One thing is certain I would damn sure give it a go, just need to have a unit in my hands, anyone wanna send one my way? Thanks for thinking of me bro, means alot!
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Cheers matey that was brilliant.I've put together another video.
A few more comments, more clouds.
The real cloud chasers will want to pay attention to the part starting around 4:40.
Highlight: Finish a whole load in two hits.
Thanks for the shout out too, and also for the up close unsheathed Ti. Colour comparison was given in up close and personal vivid imagery. Much appreciated, I think I'll go with the plain metal - although the dark grey looks sublime. I just think the gleam of the raw metal will match my glass better. And they are going to be together nearly exclusively, judging from your video.
Cheers again!
Enjoy
PS nice grinder
EDIT: If I can pester you with one more question; I'm interested to hear how the airflow through a piece is with the GH, I noticed it seemed to be quite restrictive whilst filling the chamber, and there seemed to be a huge difference in perc function between GH on and GH off for clearing?
How much harder is the draw compared to an open bong hole?
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jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
There is definitely a difference in air flow, if you notice when I pull th GH away after the second hit the water shoots up the mouthpiece. I was pulling on it pretty good.
Draw restriction seems to be a product of the load volume, load a large bowl and it is a bit restrictive.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Np Ed , well i don't know many woodworkers , i have ordered some items online made of wood & have got some things from you and i have to say yours has been way better in quality , material used and looks alone so to me i'd have to say your work is up there with the best man. As for acquiring a grasshopper to make something , there are not many out there yet in the wild so it may be hard. There are a few members that have had some problems so maybe someone see's this and can help out by at least sending a defective unit your way that's not in use. If anyone can help please message Ed , i am more than sure he would make you very happy for helping out.
Just wanted to pop in and say that I am having the identical results as @jojo0420 but with my standard SS version. This thing is an absolute beast! I haven't used my e nano since I got it if that tells you anything. As long as the unit isn't defective then this vape hits every benchmark that GHL set for it. It's really quite a revolutionary piece of vaping equipment.
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I've been thinking a bit about the tech behind the Grasshopper's heater. The hopperheater? Der Hoppenheater von Grazenhoppen...
Given how much engineering has gone into the pen form, including the wire-less communication and the complicated high-amperage switch and dial, it seems like it would take considerably less effort to bring this heater tech to a simpler form-factor than it did to bring the Grasshopper to (slow) production. I'm thinking something shaped like one of those "box mod" e-cigs. Bigger battery, more insulation, longer vapor path… A zenbox?
There's so much going on with the design of the Grasshopper; the size, shape, and material all lend serious design challenges. It seems to me that they've done a hell of a job dealing with those limitations, and I'm curious what they'd come up with if they were free of them.
Here's to hoping Hopper Labs pulls through the full launch of the Grasshopper. I'm really enjoying mine and can't wait for more folks to have one. It's great seeing more positive reports, and those videos!
Given how much engineering has gone into the pen form, including the wire-less communication and the complicated high-amperage switch and dial, it seems like it would take considerably less effort to bring this heater tech to a simpler form-factor than it did to bring the Grasshopper to (slow) production. I'm thinking something shaped like one of those "box mod" e-cigs. Bigger battery, more insulation, longer vapor path… A zenbox?
There's so much going on with the design of the Grasshopper; the size, shape, and material all lend serious design challenges. It seems to me that they've done a hell of a job dealing with those limitations, and I'm curious what they'd come up with if they were free of them.
Here's to hoping Hopper Labs pulls through the full launch of the Grasshopper. I'm really enjoying mine and can't wait for more folks to have one. It's great seeing more positive reports, and those videos!
I've been thinking a bit about the tech behind the Grasshopper's heater. The hopperheater? Der Hoppenheater von Grazenhoppen...
Given how much engineering has gone into the pen form, including the wire-less communication and the complicated high-amperage switch and dial, it seems like it would take considerably less effort to bring this heater tech to a simpler form-factor than it did to bring the Grasshopper to (slow) production. I'm thinking something shaped like one of those "box mod" e-cigs. Bigger battery, more insulation, longer vapor path… A zenbox?
There's so much going on with the design of the Grasshopper; the size, shape, and material all lend serious design challenges. It seems to me that they've done a hell of a job dealing with those limitations, and I'm curious what they'd come up with if they were free of them.
Here's to hoping Hopper Labs pulls through the full launch of the Grasshopper. I'm really enjoying mine and can't wait for more folks to have one. It's great seeing more positive reports, and those videos!
My thoughts exactly, I'd love to see what their next vaporizer (the Locust??) will look like. Maybe a standard 18650 battery this time around?
ragnorokk
DERP
Someone else was thinking near-instant convection is easier to achieve outside of the pen format.Given how much engineering has gone into the pen form, including the wire-less communication and the complicated high-amperage switch and dial, it seems like it would take considerably less effort to bring this heater tech to a simpler form-factor than it did to bring the Grasshopper to (slow) production. I'm thinking something shaped like one of those "box mod" e-cigs. Bigger battery, more insulation, longer vapor path… A zenbox?
There's so much going on with the design of the Grasshopper; the size, shape, and material all lend serious design challenges. It seems to me that they've done a hell of a job dealing with those limitations, and I'm curious what they'd come up with if they were free of them.
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I really want to get my hands on one of those. With that said, IMO Hopper Labs has succeeded well enough in dealing with the Grasshopper's form-factor limitations to let its form-factor strengths shine. I enjoy the superb pocket-ability and the hand-feel while in use. As a vape fanatic I might consider offering to trade my Grasshopper for someone's Zion or one of its little siblings, if only just to try it, except I would miss my Grasshopper…
I'd like both!
Edit: And also the Grasshopper's big sibling…
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ragnorokk
DERP
Why not Zoidberg?
I ordered both, cause they're both what I was looking for to some degree, based on reports, and cause I like rooting for the little guy sometimes (Sorry, S+B). Both companies use American-made heater tech, and I think it's about time for a revolution in the vape industry. We'll see, but it seems like a very exciting couple years are ahead of us.
Those smaller Zion-tech units are available for preorder, too. I can't wait to evaluate them and my hopper, assuming preorder hoppers ever happen
Spinuch
Well-Known Member
I have enough 18650's to power a Tesla. I'd be a fucking king. Who cares if it's a tiny bit bigger? That thing would be a cordless desktop. I'd run out of herb long before I run out of power.
I've had my SS GH for about a week now, and have a few comments, as well as a few questions. Comments first:
As others have said, it really does appear to be well-engineered. Looks great, feels great in the hand, and everything fits together solidly and smoothly like a well built watch.
I was a little bit confused at first by on/off switching. Click it and it turns on and lights up, and then after a short while the lights go out and it cools off. So it must be off, right? Wrong. You still have to click it again to turn it off. Then click it again to turn it back on again. None of this is explained in the instructions though, so I had to write to Trevor to get clarification. I think the instruction booklet should get a bit of a rewrite to explain some of the important details before the next time they have some printed up.
And to reiterate what others have said, this thing does get hot. I couldn't use it for more than one hit without the silicone mouthpiece.
A few questions for current GH users:
I've noticed that mine gets VERY hot, but only very briefly, around the temperature dial right after turning it on. Almost too hot to touch with my hand. It quickly cools off, and by the time the front/mouthpiece gets hot, the backend has already cooled off. (I'm aware that some others have had backend heat up issues, but I got the impression these were units that then went bad and didn't work at all. Mine seems to be functioning ok, it just gets hot.) When I wrote to Trevor, I asked him about this, and he said this was normal. But based on other comments I've read here, some folks don't seem to be having the same "normal" experience I am. So - is anyone else having the same heat issue with the backend on an otherwise working unit?
I've also noticed that when charging, sometimes the red LEDs continue to blink slowly (indicating that it's charging) no matter how long I leave it on the charger. The booklet indicates that once fully charged, the LEDs will blink blue slowly. With mine, sometimes this eventually happens, but most of the time it doesn't, no matter how long I charge it. Anyone else have with experience, or know anything about it?
As others have said, it really does appear to be well-engineered. Looks great, feels great in the hand, and everything fits together solidly and smoothly like a well built watch.
I was a little bit confused at first by on/off switching. Click it and it turns on and lights up, and then after a short while the lights go out and it cools off. So it must be off, right? Wrong. You still have to click it again to turn it off. Then click it again to turn it back on again. None of this is explained in the instructions though, so I had to write to Trevor to get clarification. I think the instruction booklet should get a bit of a rewrite to explain some of the important details before the next time they have some printed up.
And to reiterate what others have said, this thing does get hot. I couldn't use it for more than one hit without the silicone mouthpiece.
A few questions for current GH users:
I've noticed that mine gets VERY hot, but only very briefly, around the temperature dial right after turning it on. Almost too hot to touch with my hand. It quickly cools off, and by the time the front/mouthpiece gets hot, the backend has already cooled off. (I'm aware that some others have had backend heat up issues, but I got the impression these were units that then went bad and didn't work at all. Mine seems to be functioning ok, it just gets hot.) When I wrote to Trevor, I asked him about this, and he said this was normal. But based on other comments I've read here, some folks don't seem to be having the same "normal" experience I am. So - is anyone else having the same heat issue with the backend on an otherwise working unit?
I've also noticed that when charging, sometimes the red LEDs continue to blink slowly (indicating that it's charging) no matter how long I leave it on the charger. The booklet indicates that once fully charged, the LEDs will blink blue slowly. With mine, sometimes this eventually happens, but most of the time it doesn't, no matter how long I charge it. Anyone else have with experience, or know anything about it?
YaFreekin Right
Well-Known Member
I think your grasshopper has backend issues, even if Trevor says no. There is no reason for the back to get hot. The only thing that would cause this is significant electrical resistance. That heat being generated in the back is going to cut into your battery life(could be negligible though).
Though it doesn't seem logical to me based on mounting user reports, I am compelled to ask, could "normal" with regard to heat and charge characteristics cover such a wide range of temperature and charge times? Some users report hot front and/or back ends and odd-spec charge times and indicators, while others report cool temps at both ends and per spec charging. Shouldn't cookie-cutter electronic parts and assembly all yield nearly identical performance characteristics within fractional tolerances? I don't recall any other electronic vape ever exhibiting such broad range of expected "normal" function, user technique notwithstanding. It would be interesting to learn that every Grasshopper is endowed with artificial intelligence empowering each with autonomous choice of control over it's own temperatures and charge signatures.
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atadvice
Member
I think you may have a back-end issue. I have an SS and the back only gets off from a really long draw or the unit being on level 5 temp
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. It's getting hot - very hot - in an area where there isn't a heating element. That worries me.
Please email Trevor and ask him to explain why we should accept this as "normal" in both layman AND engineering terms.
Flyingcrocodile46
Well-Known Member
Having seen a number of reports about hot &/or faulty back ends, I can't recall whether the problem was only being reported on SS units or whether it affected Ti units as well. Anyone recall a report of the problem with a Ti unit?
gosaints420
Well-Known Member
My ti unit also gets real hot at the back end but is working normally otherwise.
jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
It starts to produce vapor within a second or two but dense vapor takes a couple more seconds, so yeah probably 4-5 for dense vapor.
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
Colorado herb is VERY dry which is what I usually have. When I was in Oregon I had very wet and sticky bud and I thought the flavor was much better. Also being here in VT my bud has regained some moisture and it tastes better than it would after this much jar conditioning time in CO so I'd say the wetter the better.
That is the auto-shutoff. After 18 seconds of inactivity it turns itself "off". Read: the power stops going but the switch is still in the "ON" position. Thats what you have to click it twice. What is technically happening is that you're just turning it off, then turning it back on.
Also if anyone hasn't seen this review, its pretty good and he talks about the heater fault issue, remember that a unit with that faulty backend which is a different issue may not necessarily fail altogether so any operating that seems unusual or sub-par to you is probably worth an email
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yeah that's what I've noticed too with my pure convection vapes, flavorwise wetter always better, so freaking mouthwatering, though CO herbs were still plenty tasty, Seattle were for sure a smidge moister I noticed too in my visits to each place. When I get stuff here it can be a crap shoot but when its moist I'm in heaven