Discontinued The Grasshopper
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speedyg
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I was stoked to receive a Green Ti and an Early Bird SS hopper on Sat. I was expecting them to arrive today, Monday. Both arrived with all the gear plus a couple of extra batts and leather sleeves that I also ordered.
In reading the manual, it says under Safety, "Never operate the product below 0 degrees C (32 F) or above 32 degrees C (90 F)." Well it was well over 103 degrees here over the weekend but kept the warning in mind while I tried them both.
Both work as expected, no problems yet. Both get increasingly warm then hot with use. You can get as much or as little vapor as you want. 5 sec or less warm up time for instant satisfaction!
Maybe version 2 will do away with the clicker switch and incorporate sensor similar to the ESV as discussed earlier.
My Green Ti has a serial no in the 30's and the SS in the 400's. Both are pretty much flawless in appearance and have that quality look and feel. The Ti version is lighter and feels a little hotter than the SS when used but it also seems to cool down a little quicker. Both pack a punch. The button and dial on the Ti unit is not as smooth as the SS version. Maybe this will change with use.
More observations later in the week.
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The leather sleeves work well in protecting the hopper. The sleeves fit tight but loosen up with use. Highly recommended!
In reading the manual, it says under Safety, "Never operate the product below 0 degrees C (32 F) or above 32 degrees C (90 F)." Well it was well over 103 degrees here over the weekend but kept the warning in mind while I tried them both.
Both work as expected, no problems yet. Both get increasingly warm then hot with use. You can get as much or as little vapor as you want. 5 sec or less warm up time for instant satisfaction!
Maybe version 2 will do away with the clicker switch and incorporate sensor similar to the ESV as discussed earlier.
My Green Ti has a serial no in the 30's and the SS in the 400's. Both are pretty much flawless in appearance and have that quality look and feel. The Ti version is lighter and feels a little hotter than the SS when used but it also seems to cool down a little quicker. Both pack a punch. The button and dial on the Ti unit is not as smooth as the SS version. Maybe this will change with use.
More observations later in the week.
Edit:
The leather sleeves work well in protecting the hopper. The sleeves fit tight but loosen up with use. Highly recommended!
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delloy
Well-Known Member
I posted these little spoons that I have awhile back all in various sizes to fit a variety of loading duties
http://tinyurl.com/qc8nklg $6 approx
Krazzykid
Well-Known Member
See the quote below.
Nice find!
I'll link it for you. http://www.newvape.com/pax2-loading-accessory/
That is the perfect scoop that I have been searching for!
It's open on the front of the scoop(like an ice scoop), instead of just open on the top like a spoon, this makes it much better for our purposes.
Hopefully it is the right size to be able to fit into the herb chamber on the GH. I am ordering the scoop now, unfortunately I won't be able to test it on a GH for a bit.
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@Ratchett
Is a scoop end like this possible with 3-D printed steel? This is how I had hoped the business end of your scoop would look.
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jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
A couple random thoughts about the Grasshopper after a couple days with it.
Small particles get past the mouthpiece screen, so using it dry results in these being consumed. Some won't notice this, but I am sensitive to particulates in my vapor. Another reason I use water filtration when possible. I use a pretty fine screen in all my Air stems that I use dry to avoid just this issue. Not a deal breaker, but an irritant.
I now feel a little more qualified to comment on the heat issue when using it native, but mind you my experience is limited to a couple sessions.
It's not a big issue.
At least not for a solo user. Here's why: This device puts out huge clouds, big as you want nearly. And in the process the mouthpiece gets pretty warm, then you take it away from your lips and hold for a couple seconds, then exhale a cloud. Now I don't know about you, but I can't immediately take another hit. I need at least a few seconds to recover from that shotgun blast of THC to my system. Then I can take another hit and by then the mouthpiece has cooled down considerably. Bare in mind I am using a Ti unit, YMMV.
Edit: A couple more things come to mind, if you grind your material finely and fill the GH too full the material will compress and restrict draw. Basically, don't pack it. Then it's fine.
There seems to be some system with the blue light flashing during use to indicate the battery is getting low. It doesn't really flash off then on, almost stutters a little. Then right before the battery dies it is really fast. It increases as the battery dies.
Small particles get past the mouthpiece screen, so using it dry results in these being consumed. Some won't notice this, but I am sensitive to particulates in my vapor. Another reason I use water filtration when possible. I use a pretty fine screen in all my Air stems that I use dry to avoid just this issue. Not a deal breaker, but an irritant.
I now feel a little more qualified to comment on the heat issue when using it native, but mind you my experience is limited to a couple sessions.
It's not a big issue.
At least not for a solo user. Here's why: This device puts out huge clouds, big as you want nearly. And in the process the mouthpiece gets pretty warm, then you take it away from your lips and hold for a couple seconds, then exhale a cloud. Now I don't know about you, but I can't immediately take another hit. I need at least a few seconds to recover from that shotgun blast of THC to my system. Then I can take another hit and by then the mouthpiece has cooled down considerably. Bare in mind I am using a Ti unit, YMMV.
Edit: A couple more things come to mind, if you grind your material finely and fill the GH too full the material will compress and restrict draw. Basically, don't pack it. Then it's fine.
There seems to be some system with the blue light flashing during use to indicate the battery is getting low. It doesn't really flash off then on, almost stutters a little. Then right before the battery dies it is really fast. It increases as the battery dies.
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Kalessin
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Hopefully I will be able to put a small bit of hemp fiber in the end of the chamber sheath and keep this from happening.
Let us know if you think the Grasshopper needs something custom!
Justpassedu
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The Pack n stash may actually be a nice cheap option for filling bc it comes with a funnel also. There like $10 on amazon : http://www.packnstash.com
Justpassedu
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slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
As someone who does have a GH and has been on vacation most of the time that I got it, I totally think that what's happening is the people that have theirs that are totally awesome, which is most, and even most of the people who have had a defect and just got it replaced are just going about their day on their grasshopper inspired misadventures! When I come back on here after a few days I'm even at this point kinda like why did I come back here? Its pages of speculation from people with no facts, fear mongering with an occasional useful bit of information like the cotton ball thing (THANKS! I want to try hemp but I will try that and btw, someone on here asked me to see if it works if you roll up some ground bud in oil to let it absorb it and use it that way, forget who asked that but THANKS! it totally works and was a great afternoon so I hear ;-) and don't let anyone dare make a positive comment because then its pages of why that person didn't observe what they totally just observed. I totally don't blame GH owners for just going about their day. I come on here because I'm totally a fanboy, no shame in that in all and plus some of these bizarres tangents gone to on here are hilarious when you're puffing on a perfectly working and tasty GH
YUP, been saying that for weeks
Finicky means it had that original defect. I'll say this again for everyone's benefit, if you have the collar overheat issue, it may not fail right away, but it does have that defect. If your unit is behaving erratically send them an email about. I had that defect, the difference between working correctly and the defect is not subtle so if you think its wrong it probably is.
I've been here in VT for a few days with a bunch of friends. I've been letting people use it to get their organic experience and with the understanding that these are people that in general smoke cannabis and don't primarily or really ever vape (for example one friend has a pax which she hasn't used once since we've been here) I gotta say the issue of a hot mouthpiece has never come up. Could it be that people are just suffering in silence? Sure, I suppose thats possible, however, every time we get in a car people are reaching for a GH so they clearly don't hate it (I've also noticed that woman seem to have a much stronger positive reaction than men in my road trip travels ...).
I hear people's frustration with the company, I think a lot of that is more people having unrealistic expectations are not really understanding the risks associated with crown funding a start up but I gotta say, driving from Colorado to VT, visiting friends and making new ones, the GH just impresses pretty much everyone that has used it.
Also whoever asked @Mr. Me2 how long his "friend" has had his GH, If I'd have to guess I'd say about 5 weeks, and also if you haven't been Philly is Tres Seis Town! (Actually so is Toledo, had a blast there and it seems pretty open to vaping places) ;-)
tr33sPlease
Well-Known Member
The unrealistic expectations came from the unrealistic statements from GHL...remember the 1000/wk at the end of July statement...we didn't make that up, it came directly from GHL.
That being said, I am very excited to get one and haven't lost faith in GHL to deliver a great product that I will love. The last update and the number of shopping confirmations sent out since then have really raised my spirits as well.
Vapeconvert
Well-Known Member
@slcbdco thank you for your real life update. I am really looking forward to my GH, as I need stealth as number 1 importance. I unfortunately have to medicate when with other people who do not, and they can not know that I am.
My Pax2 is really great for stealth, and on 1 petal I get good dose of Medicine without the telltale clouds of vapor/smoke for others to see. Here is my actual question (sorry for all the other filler), but does the GH provide good medication dose on lowest setting with minimal to no vapor exhale?
Thanks for any input you may have from your experience.
My Pax2 is really great for stealth, and on 1 petal I get good dose of Medicine without the telltale clouds of vapor/smoke for others to see. Here is my actual question (sorry for all the other filler), but does the GH provide good medication dose on lowest setting with minimal to no vapor exhale?
Thanks for any input you may have from your experience.
Jared
Cannabis Enthusiast
If you look at the actual quote it's even more outrageous. They said they'd be producing THOUSANDS plural by the end of July.
OF
Well-Known Member
I agree that's not helping. It's along the lines of the unrealistic performance claims early on, they too led folks to expect things that didn't happen.
Still, GH continues to show promise I think. There's what about 400 units out with about 40 problems? That's a concerning failure rate, especially for such a short average time in service, but it also means lots of guys (the majority) aren't having troubles. While the timing is unfortunate, if the problems are being resolved (so that more reliable units are being shipped as time goes on) the percentage of problems is going to come down as they are.
Fingers still crossed, still sitting on my wallet.
OF
Keep in mind you can minimize vapor clouds by inhaling less vapor and holding your hit for several additional seconds. Sometimes I enjoy pulling a HUGE whitewall cloud through my waterpipe and holding my breath as long as possible then exhaling zero clouds.
Another thing to remember is that your Pax vaporizer is a conduction based vaporizer - it is cooking the herb while the heater is on, producing vapor the whole time (unless you go idle the Pax will reduce heat until you begin to use again). The Grasshopper uses convection heating. This means it is not cooking the herb unless you inhale. If you want a big hit - take a big drag. Want a tiny discrete hit, take a small puff.
You should be able to medicate at any temperature with zero clouds if you desire, it's all a matter of how much herb you want to consume in one hit.
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zymos
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And then they walked that back in their last update, and made it out like it was their plan all along to have only produced 400 units total in several weeks.
Doesn't really inspire me to believe anything they say....
I think the words were "on track to producing 1000's per week" Then there were several different failures/issues that in my opinion, forced them them to slow that roll down, figure out the problems, find new solutions, hire more labor, add new tooling.
Unless there is a ton of new failures, I am very hopeful now.
Unless there is a ton of new failures, I am very hopeful now.
Jared
Cannabis Enthusiast
Those sure are a lot of problems they had to correct, and massive ones at that, to have been "on track" at some point.