Uk meet/community

Herb-nerd said:

I just quickly brushed up then to make sure i wasn't being silly in my memory.

I found that ISO tends to leech out a-lot more undesirables than i like and cleaning that up is a PITA, thats also why i find it funny that an ISO wash after a butane run seems to produce something very very similar to soft black.
With Butane i can use the end product immediately - thought it can be improved with winterization.




So you are correct, it is my experience that makes me lean to butane then ethanol. Though reading that it seems that its better to winterize with the ethanol but better to extract with the iso. Though butane and then winterzation is superior to all - so it appears.

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An iso run will produce a black oil if left to soak too long ... it is stripping all the waxes and lipids etc. If you do an iso wash after extracting with butane of course you eill make some wierd low quality shit.

Still not sure why you recommend extracting hash with ethanol over iso?

Iso leaves a very clean product with minimal purge tech .. you can smell and taste any trace of iso.

VapourHaze said:

An iso run will produce a black oil if left to soak too long ... it is stripping all the waxes and lipids etc. If you do an iso wash after extracting with butane of course you eill make some wierd low quality shit.

Still not sure why you recommend extracting hash with ethanol over iso?

Iso leaves a very clean product with minimal purge tech .. you can smell and taste any trace of iso.

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Thats why i said you were correct Iso is better than Ethanol for the type of extraction mentioned.

My point about doing an ISO run on already blasted bud (butane) and saying how identical it is to UK black hash, is exactly that - you extract all the garbage and yet it seems to be "good hash" to the UK smokers.
This is why i suggested not to run ISO through UK hash, you cant control for the chemical properties of unknown adulterants, but my suggestion of ethanol was ill-judged due to my preconceptions which were corrected by the rollitup post quoted before.

Herb-nerd said:

Thats why i said you were correct Iso is better than Ethanol for the type of extraction mentioned.

My point about doing an ISO run on already blasted bud (butane) and saying how identical it is to UK black hash, is exactly that - you extract all the garbage and yet it seems to be "good hash" to the UK smokers.
This is why i suggested not to run ISO through UK hash, you cant control for the chemical properties of unknown adulterants, but my suggestion of ethanol was ill-judged due to my preconceptions which were corrected by the rollitup post quoted before.

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Right .. i got ya sorry i was confused by your post. I totally agree with you... but if @peterpiper is gonna vape his hash anyway he may as well try concentrating what he already has .. it will help clean up the final product.

Also peterpiper .. if u got access to decent import hash you gotta try a vapman. They are really good with import.

Just to be sure I don't use UK hash, I was only referring to the Lebanese, trust me this is the proper stuff
So I can leave longer, how long roughly
I only use this gear and trust me the reclaim blows my socks off
Thanks in advance

peterpiper said:

Just to be sure I don't use UK hash, I was only referring to the Lebanese, trust me this is the proper stuff
So I can leave longer, how long roughly
I only use this gear and trust me the reclaim blows my socks off
Thanks in advance

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The "nepalese" dissolved after about 10 mins or so when i put the iso/hash mix jar in a bath of warm water. Make sure to break the hash up as small as poss .. i would recommend a cheese or nutmeg grater if the hash will allow it ... if its too pliable you could freeze before grating.

Also the joy of making hash iso is that you need a lot less iso as you can fully wash in one go.

This crumbles, so just crumble it in leave 10 mins then strain through coffee filter

Works great in solo, air
Works fantastic in lotus (a tiny tiny bit)
And in the inhalater ( but buts max temp right through, not much flavour) use this out and about
I use the nimbimvap in emergencies, use normal lighter
Have coming a grasshopper and an okin (I'll figure it out) and a Vapcap (glass and ed's tnt titanium)
Eyeing up an Zion
God I got vas
Edit oh yeah and the hammer pro for the reclaim

Hey sorry missed your post.

Yep crumble/grate as fine as poss. Place in iso and wait till it dissolves as much as poss ( you can place in warm water bath to speed up) obviously be very careful iso is very flammable so no open flames.

Then strain through a coffee filter or 2 (preferably non bleached) also make sure to wet filters with iso before ( then your filters wont soak up iso hash mix )

Evaporate (fully) , light purge (heat very lightly) scrape , collect .. i normally wait another day to make sure its all fully purged.

Enjoy

Ps if you got access to decent import then for sure check out the vapman. Dont wanna add to the vas but the basic is very modestly priced

Thanks for reply
I will look into it does it work that well with pollom?
Have you seen the Vapcap only £13 delivered to UK, price about to go up

So I evaporate then purge, sorry what do you mean purge
Sorry to be a pain but wanna get it right, good idea about soaking filters
Do freeze at all
Thanks again
Pete

peterpiper said:

Thanks for reply
I will look into it does it work that well with pollom?
Have you seen the Vapcap only £13 delivered to UK, price about to go up

So I evaporate then purge, sorry what do you mean purge
Sorry to be a pain but wanna get it right, good idea about soaking filters
Do freeze at all
Thanks again
Pete

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Purging means making sure all the iso is gone. So what i do is make sure its all fully evaporated (it will be very sticky and tacky still potentially but thats fine) i then just blow a hot air heater over it for 5 mins just to warm it all up and make sure its all gone. Dont let it get to hot or you start to lose tasty terpenes (you will smell them)

when evaporating do outside if possible .. if so then cover the mixture with some tights or something to stop dust getting in. If your doing indoors make sure you have proper ventilation and you can put a fan on the iso to speed up evaporation

The joy of iso is that if you can smell or taste the iso in the final product then you need to leave it for longer.

Ps yes vapman is great with pollen .. highly recommended .. make sure to get some concentrate screens tho .. itll be much less messy. Ye i got my eyes on the vapcap too (and the zion and okin lol) ... whereabouts in uk you at? Roughly? ... im on the south coast.

^^ see I have been doing this reclaim on my stems and all with iso then evaping and mixing the resultant in with kief to make it manageable and then vape that on a bed of herbage

so instead i should buy a nail and smack it into that? is that the difference?

I use the hammer pro, good for reclaim and bud
I'm near Canterbury

ragnorak71 said:

^^ see I have been doing this reclaim on my stems and all with iso then evaping and mixing the resultant in with kief to make it manageable and then vape that on a bed of herbage

so instead i should buy a nail and smack it into that? is that the difference?

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Yep ... why not ... reclaim dabs!!

Canterbury .. nice, went to a good little italian restaurant there last year .. great olives!

Canterburys full of restaurants now
Really taking off
Nothing like when I was a boy
U near?

Na not that close ... im down with the gays and greens ... i was actually in canterbury for a couple of days on work. Seemed a nice place.

Are there any more cannabis club get togethers going on this summer? I missed my local one a few weeks ago.

ragnorak71 said:

^^ see I have been doing this reclaim on my stems and all with iso then evaping and mixing the resultant in with kief to make it manageable and then vape that on a bed of herbage

so instead i should buy a nail and smack it into that? is that the difference?

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You are compounding reclaim by the sounds of it - your next reclaim will have previous generations in it.
Putting oil on-top of bud (or putting a-lot of surface in the path of concentrate vapour) will increase how much re-condenses. I believe concentrate vapour to be more colloidal (larger particle size) than say flower vapour (indicated by the affinity of concentrates to stick to anything the vapour touches).

Because of this i tend to dab when efficiency is key, from a nail with a short air path and sometimes a heated one.

Another example is when i spent an entire month packing a bowl with my LSV WPA and putting a ceramic flavour disk on it topped with a dab. The concentrate vapour soaked into the bud below it a-little and kept the bowl going longer. But more importantly, that batch of ABV was much more potent than ever - so i must of been less efficient in extraction by putting bud in there.

I don't know if this relevant

Where are we?

Did this meet ever happen?
I'm a closet vape fan , all my friends and colleagues are straight laced and a little negative when it comes to the herb. Drug use is frowned upon lol
Would be nice to make contacts in the Bristol area.