Help me choose a desktop vape. E-nano/LSV/Da-Buddha/SSV

So I have a solo that i use with my bong. If I got a desktop vape it would mostly be used with a bong and sometimes just by itself. I would mostly be vaping with 2 people with it ranging 1-3. I want the unit to be quite efficient but also want big clouds and hits.

Im leaning towards the nano because ive heard its a lot more efficient (gets you high off less and extracts the thc almost completely), but will it provide the thick dense vapour production i want? How many hits can i get per stem pack? I dont mind having to repack the stem too much as long as i can get at least 1 or 2 thick satisfying hits from it per pack, at the moment i get 2-3 hits per solo gong. I would probably repack a new bowl for each person instead of sharing the same one. Does the adjustable GonG work well, is it worth using or does the extra material you can put in just get wasted? The reason i dont like my solo is because i have to inhale long and slowly to get thick vapour from it, will the nano be quicker an still give thick vapor? At the moment I do 2 solo GonGs and im set sometimes 1 and then wait a bit. Will the nano perform the same in terms of how many stems i would need to be medicated, i know the nano bowl is a bit smaller than the solo, can anyone compare? I wouldnt want to have to pack the stem 4 times to get the same effect.

Im hesitant about the SSV or Da Buddha because of the added whip, does this hinder vapour production or taste? Also because ive heard specifically Da Buddha can be a bit wasteful.

Thanks for any advice and help

@joshua137 Welcome aboard the FC bandwagon. I vote for the Enano. I bought one last April and loved it so much that I bought a second.

I too have a Solo and still use it all the time. The Nano is a harder hitter than the Solo. You know how the Solo needs recovery time with the heat, before the next draw? The Nano doesn't need any recovery time, it's always ready ~ a steady heat flow that doesn't dip.

Like the Solo it uses an all glass air path. To me it was easy to learn to use, I read throughout the thread. You use slightly less cannabis to get the job done. Either do one or 2 super hits by just covering the screen with product or filling up the bowl a little more (what I like to do) and have a 10 min session. It requires a stir about half way through my vape session to stir the less vaped cannabis at the bottom.

If you are a cloud chaser this unit gives off milky hits one after the other.

With the adjustable bowl you can tailor your loads to fit your needs. Whether you use cannabis as a medical or recreational user the Enano is perfect either way. What I like is that the taste of your cannabis has good flavor until the very end of your session, even when the ABV gets dark.

It hooks up easily to my water tools for that hydrated bowl we all love. They are also beautiful units made with care and the expertise @ACE OF VAPE (Epicvape) Andy is known for, plus he's an FCer. It would be the perfect addition to your Solo. The price is right at under $200. If you like the Solo you will love the Enano.

I like that Andy and Nadia (both from Epicvape) contribute to the thread and keeps everybody caught up with what's going on with the company. It's very easy to get a hold of them on the phone or in an email with a quick response from usually Nadia.
One more thing a log vaporizer is very easy to keep clean.

CarolKing said:

@joshua137 Welcome aboard the FC bandwagon. I vote for the Enano. I bought one last April and loved it so much that I bought a second.

I too have a Solo and still use it all the time. The Nano is a harder hitter than the Solo. You know how the Solo needs recovery time with the heat, before the next draw? The Nano doesn't need any recovery time, it's always ready ~ a steady heat flow that doesn't dip.

Like the Solo it uses an all glass air path. To me it was easy to learn to use, I read throughout the thread. You use slightly less cannabis to get the job done. Either do one or 2 super hits by just covering the screen with product or filling up the bowl a little more (what I like to do) and have a 10 min session. It requires a stir about half way through my vape session to stir the less vaped cannabis at the bottom.

If you are a cloud chaser this unit gives off milky hits one after the other.

With the adjustable bowl you can tailor your loads to fit your needs. Whether you use cannabis as a medical or recreational user the Enano is perfect either way. What I like is that the taste of your cannabis has good flavor until the very end of your session, even when the ABV gets dark.

It hooks up easily to my water tools for that hydrated bowl we all love. They are also beautiful units made with care and the expertise @ACE OF VAPE (Epicvape) Andy is known for, plus he's an FCer. It would be the perfect addition to your Solo. The price is right at under $200. If you like the Solo you will love the Enano.

I like that Andy and Nadia (both from Epicvape) contribute to the thread and keeps everybody caught up with what's going on with the company. It's very easy to get a hold of them on the phone or in an email with a quick response from usually Nadia.
One more thing a log vaporizer is very easy to keep clean.

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Thankyou for the reply. I think I will get the E-Nano, it seems to stack up against the SSV just with a smaller bowl. If it can produce the big hits i want from a small bowl and also allow me to adjust the bowl to add more material which should allow for longer sessions it seems perfect.

Edit: Is the E-Nano only more efficient because of the bowl size, if i packed the same in SSV and nano would they perform the same?

I just got an lsv and I love that thing..it is a beast..especially with glass..it was testing it out last night..and I got hammered..

IMHO it breaks down to preference.
Do you prefer the hookah (whip or pulling on a 2 foot long {allowing vapor to cool}piece of hose)
or
Do you prefer the all glass (6 inch glass tube) stem experience?

I own both. I use DB for "more than 2" situation. (I have extra whips for guests) and the Nano for daily personal use.
There isn't a right or wrong.

The Nano is more versatile, as powerful, and has a much smaller footprint than the SSV. My SSV has been mothballed for years (the VTE took its place) and the Nano is my go-to vape for all things AC. It's a great deal and a great vape, and very deceptive in its massive power given its tiny size.

Never used the LSV or DB. But you won't go wrong with the Nano.

TL/DR the entire thread, but in my opinion:

- Nano is perfect for single user, sometimes two people. It's a very small efficient vape (about the size of a tiny redbull can). I really like mine - but for personal use. I rarely use it for crowds because it requires too much stirring/repacking until you train your friends how to load and pack the vape themselves (then each of you can do a single "micro load" before caching and handing to the next person).

- LSV is a LARGE vape. It's kinda awkward and requires a larger waterpipe to compensate for the size/mass of the vape. BUT it's POTENT - you can load a huge amount of herb (or micro loads, your choice depending on configuration). It's awesome for group situations. I really love my LSV when I have 4-5 people coming over and want to vape through water. Although I am personally considering an Herbalaire for party situations so I can fill several bags at one time. I really like my LSV, but due to it's size, I rarely use it for personal use so instead it sits in it's awesome padded bag waiting for the occasional party scenario when vaping with friends.

- DBV - very popular reliable vaporizer. Very similar to the LSV in performance. Only difference is configuration. If you like whips/hoses this is a perfect vape to play with. I probably would have purchased the DBV over the LSV, except I wanted direct-draw (I hate hoses/whips).

joshua137 said:

Edit: Is the E-Nano only more efficient because of the bowl size, if i packed the same in SSV and nano would they perform the same?

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IMO, yes that is exactly it.

joshua137 said:

Edit: Is the E-Nano only more efficient because of the bowl size, if i packed the same in SSV and nano would they perform the same?

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Any vaporizer that can get hot enough, which most can, will be able to extract most everything of value from your herb. An E-Nano, SSV, DBV, Lotus, even the old (And reliable) VaporGenie can roast your bud to an equal level of extraction; the question is more how easily it can do so, whether it requires regular stirring, how easy it is to accidentally combust, etc.

What many people here and elsewhere are describing when they discuss "efficiency" is how well a vaporizer works with variable load sizes. For example, the LSV can hold a lot more herb than an E-Nano and in general works better with at least a moderate amount to keep it packed in, whereas the E-Nano has a tiny "bowl" which doesn't require much loaded to keep it in place and roast evenly. Both are fully capable of heating to the point of combustion and so are equally capable of extracting the goodies you want.

Efficiency in terms of total herb use has little to do with individual vaporizers (Aside from some needing to be packed more fully to function well, as with most conduction units) and more to do with your personal usage patterns. For what it's worth, using a vaporizer with a smaller capacity will probably keep your overall usage and tolerance down simply because you won't have the temptation to cram ever-increasing amounts into it.

My personal plug-in unit is a HerbalAire which I purchased after researching all the options in its price range, and while it's a fantastic vaporizer the fact that you can cram multiple grams into the thing has led to me being silly more than once, despite the fact that it also works perfectly well with a pea-size nugget dropped in.

YMMV

Sometimes it comes down to personal preference. It's so hard to know a head of time which one you will like the best? It looks like you have it narrowed down, sometimes you just have to use your best judgement and take the plunge. I personally don't like a vaporizer that's really big or an oven that large but that's me.

All of these vaporizers get high praises. Too bad you couldn't buy 2.

If you want, tell us more about you and your friends, @joshua137 . Do you have high tolerance? I'm asking because that's the situation with me, my friends and girlfriend.

Not long ago we were 6-7 around the living room table and I was working hard, filling one EQ bowl after another, inflating balloons, passing them around, it wasn't cutting it. Just when we were about to take my 30" bong out of its safe place, my friend pulled his Rise from the box, plugged the party adapter and 4 hoses and turned it on. Minutes later we were looking at each others in disbelief, everyone was rocked.

I'm with @sadf on this one. I never tried the HerbalAire, but it's true that when using a powerful unit it's easy to use more than you would if you were sipping on a 10W heater through a straw. On the other hand, if you want to vaporize more material in less time, you need more power.

I love my Air for instance, but smoking a gram with it must take an hour, no way it would be powerful enough for a real party with my buddies. It's merely enough to share with my girlfriend so I bought her a Flowermate. With the Rise (yeah, I sold my EQ after that party), 5 minutes is all it takes to get where you want or (most of the time ) beyond.



Edit: The Nano is next on my list!

Dont sleep on the Buddha! At the cheapest price point it can easily satistfy groups with a hookah like experience and large bowl capacity. For solo sessions you can also direct draw by taking hits through just the wand (no tubing attached). You can hook it up to water via a 18mm male to male adapter with a screen inserted inside if you have one (comes with D020 bubbler) making it a makeshift LSV or thru the whip. The taste is also really good when set at lower temperatures. Just as good as the lotus/solo.

DBV is such a versatile and powerful vaporizing tool for the price that i cant not recommend it.

However i will agree it is not as efficient as say the lotus or prolly the enano (never tried one). But what it lacks in super efficiency it makes up with power. Either way, both the DBV and Enano wont leave you disapointed in your purchase.

I have only used 3 vaporizers in my life. They are the 3 I own. I researched the hell out of them. The first 2 are the portables, the Pax & Pax 2. I'm all about convenience and ease of use.

The desktop I have is the Cloud Evo. I honestly couldn't find a negative thing said about it other than it gets hot. My research led me here. I couldn't be happier with it.

Seems to me the LSV/BDV/SSV use the same heaters and all draw the same amps, so they are basically equal in power and performance if/when I can swap the SSV or DBV heaters for my LSV heater cover and get the same results (in my mind anyways) as an SSV or BDV or vise versa.

Also, I am pretty sure @Ratchett mentioned once the nano draws less amps from power consumption comparison post so I assume it uses less than a 60w ceramic rod.

Joel W. said:

Seems to me the LSV/BDV/SSV use the same heaters and all draw the same amps, so they are basically equal in power and performance if/when I can swap the SSV or DBV heaters for my LSV heater cover and get the same results (in my mind anyways) as an SSV or BDV or vise versa.

Also, I am pretty sure @Ratchett mentioned once the nano draws less amps from power consumption comparison post so I assume it uses less than a 60w ceramic rod.

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Yes this is correct

My LSV consumes 32 watts @ 110v at full power (I usually run mine at about half that)

My E-Nano consumes 16 watts @ 110V at full power.

Both vapes are capable of combusting the herbs, but one can handle much larger loads than the other

The Nano IME is easier to use out of the box and will give you the best performance with a minimal amount of fooling around with the load placement and/or the air path. On the other hand with that tinkering around the LSV gains a slight performance edge. In reference to the whip it can add its own bad taste if it gets too dirty so you have to keep it clean but I have not noticed too much additional drag or decreased vapor production. Bottom line either the E-Nano or the LSV are good choices just slightly different good choices. Good Luck

Ratchett said:

Yes this is correct

My LSV consumes 32 watts @ 110v at full power (I usually run mine at about half that)

My E-Nano consumes 16 watts @ 110V at full power.

Both vapes are capable of combusting the herbs, but one can handle much larger loads than the other

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I would add that the EQ tested 60 watts @ 110V at full power, and the Rise 240 watts @ 110V full power.

Episode666 said:

and the Rise 240 watts @ 110V full power

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Wow, I must take a look at that one, thanks.

That is the Vapir Rise, correct?

Joel W. said:

Wow, I must take a look at that one, thanks.

That is the Vapir Rise, correct?

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Exactly, the latest Rise 2.0 Extreme.

Nobody suggested you the Herbalaire?

It's an amazing, versatile and tasty vape and not so expensive but if you want something able of higher t° and a 24/24 and 7/7 use I suggest the nano.

If you have more money to spent the MiniVap could be a very good desktop vape with a Cloud for big hits!

But, as somebody suggested, even a 50$ VaporGenie make an amazing job (it's one of my daily driver)

JimmyCricket said:

Dont sleep on the Buddha! At the cheapest price point it can easily satistfy groups with a hookah like experience and large bowl capacity. For solo sessions you can also direct draw by taking hits through just the wand (no tubing attached). You can hook it up to water via a 18mm male to male adapter with a screen inserted inside if you have one (comes with D020 bubbler) making it a makeshift LSV or thru the whip. The taste is also really good when set at lower temperatures. Just as good as the lotus/solo.

DBV is such a versatile and powerful vaporizing tool for the price that i cant not recommend it.

However i will agree it is not as efficient as say the lotus or prolly the enano (never tried one). But what it lacks in super efficiency it makes up with power. Either way, both the DBV and Enano wont leave you disapointed in your purchase.

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^^^^^^ This

Da Buddha transformed this long time Combuster into a Vapor only snob.

As pointed out by @JimmyCricket .. The DBV can eat up your herb, however...

It really provides dense, gratifying clouds, so yes, it's a bit inefficient but at the same time it only takes 3-4 draws to get me incredibly happy.. As long as you keep your whip clean( I clean mine once a week) there is no interference with taste.

The DBV and LSV are both powerhouse units, along with the SSV, and by the huge fan base, highlighted by the E-Nano Mega-Thread, the Nano must be a fantastic Vaporizer as well.

I am a bit biased regarding 7th Floor though, as I live where the SSV was born in Colorado Springs, additionally , every Desktop they've produced is built like a tank, and the fact that they will repair any unit outside of the 3 year warranty for a 25$ flat fee "Even if it's been run over by a tank" is quite impressive, and speaks volumes regarding the craftsmanship and confidence in their units.

Last time I was on 7th Floor's Website, I saw "seconds" (units with small cosmetic imperfections) on the black DBV for 125$.. That is one killer deal.(Still covered under their 3 year warranty)

I also saw some beautiful SSVs for a stunning price also.

And not to discredit EpicVape, but despite their popularity, they are still just a 2 person operation , that being said, they are an amazing company that truly loves their customers.

As you can see, the E-Nano is in my wish list, but I'm kinda holding off until the demand is proportionate to the collective supply.

All that being said... I don't think you can go wrong with any one of your selections.

But, a Black DBV directly from 7th Floor for 125$ would be my choice at this time.

Good luck, and Happy Vaping,
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I'd like to put a plug in for the hands free Vapor Brothers desktop. I have been collecting vapes but have gone full cycle back to the VB. Just great clouds and flavor from a well built product.

BabyFacedFinster said:

I'd like to put a plug in for the hands free Vapor Brothers desktop. I have been collecting vapes but have gone full cycle back to the VB. Just great clouds and flavor from a well built product.

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Your vapor path is all safe glass, ceramic and/or medical grade. I know it is older technology but I have yet to hear anyone complain about a poor experience with a VB desktop.

Oops, I meant to add to my previous post but added another post instead. Sorry

Regarding efficiency and smaller loads mentioned above, there is more to the nano than meets the eye or than is obvious without using it for a few sessions.

First, smaller loads allow for delicious flavor all the way through the load. In everything I've used (or read about), the flavor drops off 2-3 (sometimes 4) hits in because the terpines have been vaped out. Some of the vapes mentioned above don't seem to do so well on small loads. So, while you will still get actives with the additional hits, the flavor is gone long before the load is spent.

The other major thing seems a bit more subjective, but very many seem to agree with it. Not sure if it is the nano itself, or just the smaller loads. I use much less material than I do in almost any vape (Vapman being the biggest other contender) and get just as buzzed. I had a VaporWarez Vapor Cannon (very good VaporBrothers box knock-off) for a few years, and an EQ for a couple after that. My consumption with the nano is less than half it was with either of them.

This is the type of efficiency I'm usually talking about when the nano is involved. I really don't know whether it is the vape itself, the way you consume when doing smaller hits, or the specific way I use it. Might just be that it makes it more likely to do smaller hits and waste less with cloudy exhales, or any one of a number of other theories. Believe me..... I've spent more than a few moments contemplating it! But whatever it is, I go through much less material for a couple years now. When I visit my buddy who has a DBV I probably use about 3 days worth of nano amounts myself - and still usually vape a load with the nano when I get home - to get to the same point I do with my daily nano sessions.

Again, I can't tell you why. But, I know that guy I go see for refills, or most of my friends who I pool funds with (except one who also has a nano now), aren't too happy about my reduced usage. My wallet sure is though!

Thankyou for all the replies! I decided to go with the E-Nano, its mainly for me and my gf with a decent tolerance but we value efficiency and don't mind packing it ourselves each time. I just got an email that its being shipped. Thanks again.

I have the solo, LSV, and an underdog. I really enjoy all of them but the underdog has become my go to vape. I almost always vape through a water pipe.
I really like the unrestricted draw of the UD, the cord is light weight, and I leave it plugged in 24/7 so it's always ready to go. I don't think it really uses any less herb than the LSV as I can load just enough herb to cover the screen and get 3-4 good hits from the LSV at around 2 o'clock. On the UD Nong stem I get 1 good hit from it and the glass stems I get 2 maybe 3 if I'm pushing it. (My dog runs hot but that's fine by me) If you measure by the number of hits you get from a given amount of weed I think they work out to the same.

The LSV is a little cumbersome but I feel it has a better flavor than the UD or Solo especially if you keep the temp low. I love the LSV and it would be my go to vape but it makes me sweat because the heat is so close to my face when taking a bong rip. At 1st I didn't mind the cord of the LSV but after I got my UD I find the cord heavy and kind of annoying.

Which ever one you pick I'm sure it'll kick ass but you'll probably end up with VAS and get the other one anyways!!