Herb Grinders

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It's not made of titanium. That's just the anodized coating. Here's a quote from gratefulbuys.com - "The Titanium version offers some non-stick properties, and uses an anodizing process that changes the viscosity of the aluminum, increasing it's strength by about 100% and making it dark in color. The original polished version should last a lifetime though. If you're particularly hard on things or plan to live more than one lifetime go with the titanium. Otherwise it's a matter of aesthetic preference."
 
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jimbo

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heyslick-I have a Mendo 2pc with the anodized coating, and a 4pc without, I have developed the "black grease" on both, I thought it was just herb getting onto the rim and getting pulverized... also should mention I noticed it on a couple of other cheap grinders I've owned...
 
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jimbo said:
heyslick-I have a Mendo 2pc with the anodized coating, and a 4pc without, I have developed the "black grease" on both, I thought it was just herb getting onto the rim and getting pulverized... also should mention I noticed it on a couple of other cheap grinders I've owned...
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Thats it ! "black grease" I've already washed it several times and when I wipe it, it has this "black grease" Do you guys think this is dangerous ? jimbo do you have a SC ? Im wondering if SC's will do this too?
 
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jimbo

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I think its harmless, I've noticed it on 4 different grinders and I just clean my grinders with iso every now and then if I notice build up... I don't own a SC but I'm sure they'd get the black gunk too...
 
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I've used a wide range of grinders, from cheap generic to all the expensive name brands-Cosmic, Mendo, MixnBall, SC- never had any 'black grease' issues. The very first cheapie I bought would give me a little 'grayness' on my fingers from the grinding motion-probably a lower grade aluminum, but I've never gotten anything I'd describe as grease. All aluminum grinders will turn crushed plant material black if it gets trapped between the grinding sections.
 
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jimbo

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max said:
I've used a wide range of grinders, from cheap generic to all the expensive name brands-Cosmic, Mendo, MixnBall, SC- never had any 'black grease' issues. The very first cheapie I bought would give me a little 'grayness' on my fingers from the grinding motion-probably a lower grade aluminum, but I've never gotten anything I'd describe as grease. All aluminum grinders will turn crushed plant material black if it gets trapped between the grinding sections.
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Thats what I figured it was, just plant material, maybe black grease was not the best way to describe it :)
 
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HeySlick

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Its not plant material. I've wiped off this black lead like from a pencil black substance from my Mendo even right after I washed it, without grinding any material. Also What do u guys think Aluminum or Titanium?
 
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jimbo

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Maybe post some pics of this substance coming off your grinder, see what the peeps on FC think....
 
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IIDXBoss

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Has anyone else found that very finely ground weed produces much thicker and stronger vapor?

I realized this when I noticed that bowls where I had put kief from my grinder in would produce much thicker and more visible vapor.


I think that when the weed is more finely ground it is more evenly distributed and there are no pockets of plant material or air. If you put in as a full bud you will burn the outsides and sometimes leave the inside untouched, just as an oven cooks from the outside as well.

When you almost powder your weed you get a much more even penetration of heat and you will likely get far more out of your weed when vaping.
 
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Lycanthrope

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IIDXBoss
Im certainly no expert of the subject of grind consistency, but in general the following rules of thumb apply:
Grinding fine exposes a greater surface area and the greater the surface area the more volatiles will be vaporized off the herb. Grinding too fine toward a powder may expose a larger surface area but the very fine particles (powder) pack up very tightly together to prevent the hot air circulation around each particle to vaporize the psychoactive components.
Not grinding fine enough as you stated, you will vaporize the outside surfaces and leave the inside untouched, just as an oven cooks from the outside as well. As I stated there is a somewhat fine line between grinding fine enough and too fine. Course grinding will not provide the larger surface areas necessary for of vaporization of the psychoactive components, a finer grind will, up to the point where grinding to a powder consistency packs too tight to prevent the proper air circulation around each herb particle. I have an MZ and grinding to a course ground pepper consistency works very well for me, but each Vape will be a bit different. The same rule still applies finer is usually better than course, up to the consistency of powder.
 
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IIDXBoss said:
If you put in as a full bud you will burn the outsides and sometimes leave the inside untouched, just as an oven cooks from the outside as well.
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It really depends on the particular vape you're using. Most vapes do much better with ground herb, and Lycanthrope's info applies. The Vapolution is designed to use pieces instead of ground (only a glass dimple for a screen), and with this model you do need to watch out for imcompletely vaped bowls. OTOH the herbalAire (also designed to use pieces) does a great job with pieces, and they'll get thoroughly vaporized every time.

Most convection vapes do quite well with the grind consistency you can get from pretty much any grinder, and if the bud is stickier than average it can be re-ground or crumbled up with fingers once you've had a few hits and it's more dried out. Conduction vapes are the ones that need a really fine grind. A powdery consistency works best with this type, since the herb needs to contact the heated surface for good vaporization, and an extremely fine grind only impedes airflow with convection. A piece that would be no problem for a convection vape may only get one side vaped in a conduction model. Since the vast majority of conduction models aren't worth buying, getting a really fine grind is pretty much only an issue for the Launch Box.
 
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jeffp

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max said:
It's not made of titanium. That's just the anodized coating. Here's a quote from gratefulbuys.com - "The Titanium version offers some non-stick properties, and uses an anodizing process that changes the viscosity of the aluminum, increasing it's strength by about 100% and making it dark in color. The original polished version should last a lifetime though. If you're particularly hard on things or plan to live more than one lifetime go with the titanium. Otherwise it's a matter of aesthetic preference."
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I have received my original 2 piece space case and I like it alot. I honestly feel that I get identical results with Ed's $10 grinder, but I like the solidity and the precision of the SC, it's really a great little grinder.
 
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Purple-Days

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We just got a Space Case Titanium (two piece) for us and one for a friend.

TruBlendz was quick to deliver and good about making it a secure sale, a slight blip in address was caught and corrected and the transaction went smooth after that. (our blip, good job!) Straight from BC like lightning. Though we didn't request it we got two colors, I approve of their choice (nice), since we had made no specific request, we got a black that is very cool and already on the way to a friend, and we kept the more traditional blue-grey.

I think the titanium name is strange, but hey, it is cool, I like it even, and at 30 bucks nobody thinks it's really titanium, right?

Does it work. Yes, it works great, the magnet is cool, mid size capacity and anodized, it is slicker than our Mix-N-Ball was. But I think when the surface to surface tolerance gums up, scraping will make the anodizing look less attractive, oh well. Sanding the tolerance a little looser worked well with the M-N-B and will probably the with the S-C , it will look fine I am sure. A lifetime grinder. As is the Mix-N-Ball.

Hey, I didn't shop much, maybe it was a good deal, maybe not. Doesn't matter, secure, fast... cool, from Tru-Blendz. BTW we have no contact or association with them or Space Case or Mix-N-Ball, just good products and a retailer that made the deal a smooth deal.
 
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ZigZag said:
anyone seen the Large 4 pc space case ?

how do you feel about the size ?
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3.5" diameter is bigger than I like (and so is the price). But it's how you feel about it that matters, isn't it? Size is mostly just personal preference.
 
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Yeah, I have the small ti SC and it's perfect for me. I think it really depends on how much you want to grind up at one time.
 
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Cappella Sistina

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The scout grinder sifter, is my personal favorite Space Case.

Storage/Grind/Kief Collect all in one unit, and perfect for on the go.
 
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chucku

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Cappella Sistina said:
The scout grinder sifter, is my personal favorite Space Case.

Storage/Grind/Kief Collect all in one unit, and perfect for on the go.
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It is also the perfect size to empty into a 35mm film can. I would rather not dip and twist my MZ stems on the screen.
 
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Rextober

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What's a good grinder to use with a vaporizer that costs $25 or less?

If possible, I'd like to avoid metals (like aluminum?) that have the potential to flake off into my herb.

Also, I don't really care about saving kief for later (I'd rather use it immediately), so a 2-piece would probably be fine.

Thanks!

Edit: 1 more question: Is the titanium space case really better than the aluminum space case other than the fact that it's lighter?
 
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ZigZag

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you can actually pick up quite a few options for that much it seems, but most would be aluminum. i think even the titanium space case is aluminum with some kind of coating.
that pretty much leaves one made from some kind of plastic or a wood one with metal spikes. but about flakes of stuff getting into your busted herb, as long as the buster has a plastic rim between the top and bottom busting part you should be fine with aluminum.
you could always just go with a coffee grinder and then just hit out the cap every time you use it with dry chron and put it in the bowl too.
 
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Lycanthrope

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I have a rosewood grinder from Ed's TnT and it works great, plus they look really nice. I can pretty much get whatever grind I need just be turning a few more times to get a finer grind. The metal spikes that do the grinding seem like their very solidly embedded into the wood bottom. The only thing that I think is a good idea with a wood grinder is not to overload it with too much herb, go easy on the amount you put in to grind at a time. This reduces the stress on the metal spikes. I can still grind quite a bit at a time, more than I require at a time. The grinder is 3 inch and only costs $8.89 at Ed's TnT. Hell, for $8.89 if you dont like it so what, but I really like mine.:2c:
 
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If possible, I'd like to avoid metals (like aluminum?) that have the potential to flake off into my herb.
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I've used a lot of cheap aluminum grinders and never had any flaking, breaking or bending. Cheap grinders are produced from quality aluminum these days. And the only metal, non aluminum grinder I can think of is the steel/zinc alloy used in the original Chromium Crusher.

Is the titanium space case really better than the aluminum space case other than the fact that it's lighter?
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It's the same aluminum but with an anodized coating. Less herb will stick to the coating. That's about it. If you want a 2 pc. though, the SC is a good buy, especially through dealers that offer FC discounts.
 
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